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The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns

Robert Allbright
Dave, W7AQK

you said

I haven't studied the 7700's performance
ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3.

Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one?

Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB
review on the 7700 is due June.
I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability  
and performance!
I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the  
review in a few days time.

73 Rob G3RCE
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RE: The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns

Jim-168
The spec's come into play on CW but phone operators, no. Many who are mainly
phone operators that I talked to that have operated or owned the Orion,
Orion II & K-3's (And I own or have owned all three) with the superior
spec's tend to gravitate back to the rig they are most comfortable
operating. In many cases it comes down to ease of operation and in some
cases pure looks.

Jim

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Dave, W7AQK

you said

I haven't studied the 7700's performance
ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3.

Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one?

Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB
review on the 7700 is due June.
I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability  
and performance!
I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the  
review in a few days time.

73 Rob G3RCE
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Re: The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns

w7aqk
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Nope, don't have one.  It would be nice though!  As far as I know there
aren't any detailed performance reviews published yet, but several owners
have noted that the RX is apparently the same basic design as the 7800.
Also, the Icom reps at Dayton indicated that it was essentially the same
receiver.  So, close in performance will not apparently match the K3.  But
that doesn't mean it isn't a great radio, and as you indicate, the operating
conveniences and features make it something to lust for.  As for ergonomics,
that's always something that I find hard to compare in some radios.  To me,
good ergonomics means convenience.  It may mean something entirely different
to others.  There's plenty to like with the Icoms, but I find the K3 to be
convenient as well.  Now there are more buttons on the Icoms, and that
suggests more features.  But conveniently using the features available on
the K3 is very good in my view.  I think the best example of bad ergonomics
is exhibited by Yaesu, and to some degree, Ten-Tec.  Yaesu's menus are still
complex and difficult to manipulate.  The Icom rep was having fun comparing
the 7700 to Yaesu's big rigs for ease of operation.  Ten-Tec uses a
multi-pot extensively which I don't care much for.  That's possibly my
biggest gripe about my Orion II.  Icom however, makes superb use of the
bandscope and large display in utilizing many of the available features.
More than anything else I think that's the crux of why Icom users are
fanatics about Icom radios.  For example, want to see a waterfall display?
Just push this button here!  Filter settings can be brought up on the
screen, and adjusted easily.  You can quickly return to the default setting
by pushing the default button.  But the K3 sort of does the same thing,
although not displayed as elaborately on its screen.  And to return to the
"default" position, you simply push the "shift" knob and it's done.  But
like I said, more buttons on the 7700 means more features on that radio, and
the display does a beautiful job of presenting each feature.  Now, once the
2nd receivers for the K3 are ready to ship, that may shift the balance more
towards the K3 for lots of people.  I still think the K3 will very possibly
be the radio of choice for contesters and DXers.  And I don't see a 7700
being the rig of choice over a K3 for Field Day either.  But certainly there
will be a great many who will find the 7700 to be a better fit for their
operating preferences.  It's a beautiful radio!  And you have to want that
2nd RX pretty darn bad to spend the extra money to get the 7800.

Dave W7AQK



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> Dave, W7AQK
>
> you said
>
> I haven't studied the 7700's performance
> ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3.
>
> Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one?
>
> Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB
> review on the 7700 is due June.
> I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability  and
> performance!
> I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the  review
> in a few days time.
>
> 73 Rob G3RCE
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Re: The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns

hf4me
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Here's one.  http://www.sherweng.com/table.html

73, Jim

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Subject: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns


> Dave, W7AQK
>
> you said
>
> I haven't studied the 7700's performance
> ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3.
>
> Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one?
>
> Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB
> review on the 7700 is due June.
> I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability  
> and performance!
> I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the  
> review in a few days time.
>
> 73 Rob G3RCE
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K3 - KRX3 (2nd Receiver Option) Shipping Status??

W6NEK
Hello Elecraft,
Can you please provide an update on the shipping status of the KRX3??

Based on the current website info, delivery must be very close.

Any info greatly appreciated,
Frank - W6NEK

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Re: The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns

dave.wilburn
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I find it a bit entertaining that the 7800, 10k$ rig, ended up next to
the 'build it yourself' K2.  I was under the impression that the 6k$
7700 used the same receiver, and thus performance wise, placed it next
to the K2.  Then I consider that the K2 has been around since the late
90's, and I just end up with a pretty good chuckle.

But as stated, the K2, and K3 do not compete with the fancy displays
and such.  It will be interesting to see if Elecraft does a display on
their own, or if they rely on the LP-PAN.

I was chuckling at the analogies to cars earlier in one of the
threads.  I didn't get the VW thing either.  I could see it for the
K2.  I like to think of plane's.  I did not have a chance to finish my
pilot's license, but one friend that was working on his license the
same time I did, and I would chat over a beer.  He always wanted to
fly fast, in something like a Lear Jet.  I always wanted to fly upside
down in something like a Pitts S2A.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitts_Special>

Or as my wife will tell you, I never was, and am never likely to be
considered 'normal'.

I do enjoy my K3 though.  Think I will go see what is happening on 20m
RTTY.  73


Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982
K3/100 - S/N 766

"For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will
never know."


Jim Miller wrote:

> Here's one.  http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
>
> 73, Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Allbright" <[hidden email]>
> To: "ELECRAFT" <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 7:16 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns
>
>
>> Dave, W7AQK
>>
>> you said
>>
>> I haven't studied the 7700's performance
>> ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3.
>>
>> Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one?
>>
>> Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB
>> review on the 7700 is due June.
>> I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability  
>> and performance!
>> I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the  
>> review in a few days time.
>>
>> 73 Rob G3RCE
>> ----------------
>>
>>
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Re: The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns

Gary D Krause
I got the VW thing.  My first car was a 1963 white VW bug just like the one in
the Walt Disney movies.  It had 15 inch wheels, independent suspension on all
four wheels, parts that could easily be replaced, air cooled engine and no
radiator to mess around with, easy to tune, oil air filter, and it could
float, although I never tried that. :-)  That's just to name a few things.  It
survived a hail storm that left other cars looking like the surface of the
moon.  It was a fantastic car, very simple and a masterpiece of German
engineering.  Of course, that's my opinion.  I think the point was that
Elecraft owners are as passionate about their K1's, K2's and K3's as some of
us were about our VW's.  I'm also passionate about my K2 which I built myself
and I have a K3 on order.

I can't understand why anyone would want to pay $10k to $14k for a rig.  But,
we all buy for different reasons.

Gary, N7HTS


On Tue, 20 May 2008 19:54:37 -0400
  David Wilburn <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I find it a bit entertaining that the 7800, 10k$ rig, ended up next to the
>'build it yourself' K2.  I was under the impression that the 6k$ 7700 used
>the same receiver, and thus performance wise, placed it next to the K2.  Then
>I consider that the K2 has been around since the late 90's, and I just end up
>with a pretty good chuckle.
>
> But as stated, the K2, and K3 do not compete with the fancy displays and
>such.  It will be interesting to see if Elecraft does a display on their own,
>or if they rely on the LP-PAN.
>
> I was chuckling at the analogies to cars earlier in one of the threads.  I
>didn't get the VW thing either.  I could see it for the K2.  I like to think
>of plane's.  I did not have a chance to finish my pilot's license, but one
>friend that was working on his license the same time I did, and I would chat
>over a beer.  He always wanted to fly fast, in something like a Lear Jet.  I
>always wanted to fly upside down in something like a Pitts S2A.
>
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitts_Special>
>
> Or as my wife will tell you, I never was, and am never likely to be
>considered 'normal'.
>
> I do enjoy my K3 though.  Think I will go see what is happening on 20m RTTY.
> 73
>
>
> Dave Wilburn
> K4DGW
> K2/100 - S/N 5982
> K3/100 - S/N 766
>
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OT - The K3 in comprison VW's

Ken Kopp-3
I got the VW thing, too.  We've owned 17 of 'em!  Probably
not a record, but still quite a few.  

Wonder if there's some sort of "personality" trait thing going
on here.  Seems as though there was a waiting period for
some VW's, too. (:-))

73! Ken - K0PP
       
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