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Dave, W7AQK
you said I haven't studied the 7700's performance ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3. Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one? Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB review on the 7700 is due June. I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability and performance! I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the review in a few days time. 73 Rob G3RCE ---------------- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The spec's come into play on CW but phone operators, no. Many who are mainly
phone operators that I talked to that have operated or owned the Orion, Orion II & K-3's (And I own or have owned all three) with the superior spec's tend to gravitate back to the rig they are most comfortable operating. In many cases it comes down to ease of operation and in some cases pure looks. Jim -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Robert Allbright Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 8:16 AM To: ELECRAFT Subject: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns Dave, W7AQK you said I haven't studied the 7700's performance ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3. Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one? Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB review on the 7700 is due June. I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability and performance! I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the review in a few days time. 73 Rob G3RCE ---------------- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Nope, don't have one. It would be nice though! As far as I know there
aren't any detailed performance reviews published yet, but several owners have noted that the RX is apparently the same basic design as the 7800. Also, the Icom reps at Dayton indicated that it was essentially the same receiver. So, close in performance will not apparently match the K3. But that doesn't mean it isn't a great radio, and as you indicate, the operating conveniences and features make it something to lust for. As for ergonomics, that's always something that I find hard to compare in some radios. To me, good ergonomics means convenience. It may mean something entirely different to others. There's plenty to like with the Icoms, but I find the K3 to be convenient as well. Now there are more buttons on the Icoms, and that suggests more features. But conveniently using the features available on the K3 is very good in my view. I think the best example of bad ergonomics is exhibited by Yaesu, and to some degree, Ten-Tec. Yaesu's menus are still complex and difficult to manipulate. The Icom rep was having fun comparing the 7700 to Yaesu's big rigs for ease of operation. Ten-Tec uses a multi-pot extensively which I don't care much for. That's possibly my biggest gripe about my Orion II. Icom however, makes superb use of the bandscope and large display in utilizing many of the available features. More than anything else I think that's the crux of why Icom users are fanatics about Icom radios. For example, want to see a waterfall display? Just push this button here! Filter settings can be brought up on the screen, and adjusted easily. You can quickly return to the default setting by pushing the default button. But the K3 sort of does the same thing, although not displayed as elaborately on its screen. And to return to the "default" position, you simply push the "shift" knob and it's done. But like I said, more buttons on the 7700 means more features on that radio, and the display does a beautiful job of presenting each feature. Now, once the 2nd receivers for the K3 are ready to ship, that may shift the balance more towards the K3 for lots of people. I still think the K3 will very possibly be the radio of choice for contesters and DXers. And I don't see a 7700 being the rig of choice over a K3 for Field Day either. But certainly there will be a great many who will find the 7700 to be a better fit for their operating preferences. It's a beautiful radio! And you have to want that 2nd RX pretty darn bad to spend the extra money to get the 7800. Dave W7AQK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Allbright" <[hidden email]> To: "ELECRAFT" <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 5:16 AM Subject: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns > Dave, W7AQK > > you said > > I haven't studied the 7700's performance > ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3. > > Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one? > > Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB > review on the 7700 is due June. > I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability and > performance! > I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the review > in a few days time. > > 73 Rob G3RCE > ---------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Here's one. http://www.sherweng.com/table.html
73, Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Allbright" <[hidden email]> To: "ELECRAFT" <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 7:16 AM Subject: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns > Dave, W7AQK > > you said > > I haven't studied the 7700's performance > ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3. > > Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one? > > Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB > review on the 7700 is due June. > I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability > and performance! > I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the > review in a few days time. > > 73 Rob G3RCE > ---------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hello Elecraft,
Can you please provide an update on the shipping status of the KRX3?? Based on the current website info, delivery must be very close. Any info greatly appreciated, Frank - W6NEK _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I find it a bit entertaining that the 7800, 10k$ rig, ended up next to
the 'build it yourself' K2. I was under the impression that the 6k$ 7700 used the same receiver, and thus performance wise, placed it next to the K2. Then I consider that the K2 has been around since the late 90's, and I just end up with a pretty good chuckle. But as stated, the K2, and K3 do not compete with the fancy displays and such. It will be interesting to see if Elecraft does a display on their own, or if they rely on the LP-PAN. I was chuckling at the analogies to cars earlier in one of the threads. I didn't get the VW thing either. I could see it for the K2. I like to think of plane's. I did not have a chance to finish my pilot's license, but one friend that was working on his license the same time I did, and I would chat over a beer. He always wanted to fly fast, in something like a Lear Jet. I always wanted to fly upside down in something like a Pitts S2A. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitts_Special> Or as my wife will tell you, I never was, and am never likely to be considered 'normal'. I do enjoy my K3 though. Think I will go see what is happening on 20m RTTY. 73 Dave Wilburn K4DGW K2/100 - S/N 5982 K3/100 - S/N 766 "For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know." Jim Miller wrote: > Here's one. http://www.sherweng.com/table.html > > 73, Jim > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Allbright" <[hidden email]> > To: "ELECRAFT" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2008 7:16 AM > Subject: [Elecraft] The K3 in comprison to the Big Guns > > >> Dave, W7AQK >> >> you said >> >> I haven't studied the 7700's performance >> ratings, but apparently they are not nearly as good as the K3. >> >> Where did you get this info I wonder? do you have one? >> >> Well, we shall see when the reviews are published, apparently the RSGB >> review on the 7700 is due June. >> I think that the K3 will hard pressed to beat the 7700 in usability >> and performance! >> I've had one for several weeks now and am looking forward to the >> review in a few days time. >> >> 73 Rob G3RCE >> ---------------- >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Post to: [hidden email] >> You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >> Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >> Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com >> > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I got the VW thing. My first car was a 1963 white VW bug just like the one in
the Walt Disney movies. It had 15 inch wheels, independent suspension on all four wheels, parts that could easily be replaced, air cooled engine and no radiator to mess around with, easy to tune, oil air filter, and it could float, although I never tried that. :-) That's just to name a few things. It survived a hail storm that left other cars looking like the surface of the moon. It was a fantastic car, very simple and a masterpiece of German engineering. Of course, that's my opinion. I think the point was that Elecraft owners are as passionate about their K1's, K2's and K3's as some of us were about our VW's. I'm also passionate about my K2 which I built myself and I have a K3 on order. I can't understand why anyone would want to pay $10k to $14k for a rig. But, we all buy for different reasons. Gary, N7HTS On Tue, 20 May 2008 19:54:37 -0400 David Wilburn <[hidden email]> wrote: > I find it a bit entertaining that the 7800, 10k$ rig, ended up next to the >'build it yourself' K2. I was under the impression that the 6k$ 7700 used >the same receiver, and thus performance wise, placed it next to the K2. Then >I consider that the K2 has been around since the late 90's, and I just end up >with a pretty good chuckle. > > But as stated, the K2, and K3 do not compete with the fancy displays and >such. It will be interesting to see if Elecraft does a display on their own, >or if they rely on the LP-PAN. > > I was chuckling at the analogies to cars earlier in one of the threads. I >didn't get the VW thing either. I could see it for the K2. I like to think >of plane's. I did not have a chance to finish my pilot's license, but one >friend that was working on his license the same time I did, and I would chat >over a beer. He always wanted to fly fast, in something like a Lear Jet. I >always wanted to fly upside down in something like a Pitts S2A. > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitts_Special> > > Or as my wife will tell you, I never was, and am never likely to be >considered 'normal'. > > I do enjoy my K3 though. Think I will go see what is happening on 20m RTTY. > 73 > > > Dave Wilburn > K4DGW > K2/100 - S/N 5982 > K3/100 - S/N 766 > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I got the VW thing, too. We've owned 17 of 'em! Probably
not a record, but still quite a few. Wonder if there's some sort of "personality" trait thing going on here. Seems as though there was a waiting period for some VW's, too. (:-)) 73! Ken - K0PP _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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