Trees eating wire
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Wayne's problem with a tree eating his wire reminds me of an incident some
years ago when I was attempting to get an antenna halyard over a tall oak tree. I used some braided nylon cord with a probable breaking strain of several hundred pounds, which was attached to a drilled golf ball. My catapult put the ball and cord over a branch somewhat lower than intended so I attempted to pull it back. Of course the inevitable happened and the ball wound itself around the branch. No matter how hard I pulled the cord it wouldn't come. So I wound the cord around a piece of wood and with my heels dug into the ground, gave it my full body weight plus some. Finally it released itself and the golf ball shot towards me hitting me in the right foot and breaking several bones. I had literally shot myself in the foot! I'm just thankful it wasn't 2 or 3 feet up otherwise my voice would now be an octave or so higher. Heard the guys sniggering behind the curtain in the hospital A&E department after I told them I had shot myself with a golf ball. XYL not at all impressed at having to drive me to the salt mine for 6 weeks. Lead weights used by anglers could be even more lethal. Needless to say I don't use that method any more and now use a compressed air device with weighted tennis balls which works a treat! 73, Tom G3OLB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I bought a 12 ounce throw weight for arborists from SherrillTree.com but I
didn't get any slick line (what the pros call it.) Beware if you use SherrillTree; once they have your address, you'll never be shut of them. On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 3:04 PM Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote: > I was on a 50 mile Scout trek and two Scouts got a bear-bagging rope with > a rock tied to it stuck in a tree. They pulled as hard as they could and it > shot back and hit one of them in the neck. Luckily, it only hit soft > tissue, but he was in shock and couldn’t turn his head for a couple of days. > > There is a kind of rope which is specifically designed to not get stuck in > trees, “arborist throw line”. These days, I exclusively use that for bear > bagging and for field antennas. Arborists also have throw weights for > trees, though I don’t take those on hikes. > > http://www.wesspur.com/throw-line/zing-it-throw-line.html > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > > > On May 26, 2019, at 11:35 AM, Tom Boucher <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > Wayne's problem with a tree eating his wire reminds me of an incident > some > > years ago when I was attempting to get an antenna halyard over a tall oak > > tree. I used some braided nylon cord with a probable breaking strain of > > several hundred pounds, which was attached to a drilled golf ball. > > > > My catapult put the ball and cord over a branch somewhat lower than > > intended so I attempted to pull it back. Of course the inevitable > happened > > and the ball wound itself around the branch. No matter how hard I pulled > > the cord it wouldn't come. So I wound the cord around a piece of wood and > > with my heels dug into the ground, gave it my full body weight plus some. > > > > Finally it released itself and the golf ball shot towards me hitting me > in > > the right foot and breaking several bones. I had literally shot myself in > > the foot! I'm just thankful it wasn't 2 or 3 feet up otherwise my voice > > would now be an octave or so higher. > > > > Heard the guys sniggering behind the curtain in the hospital A&E > department > > after I told them I had shot myself with a golf ball. XYL not at all > > impressed at having to drive me to the salt mine for 6 weeks. > > > > Lead weights used by anglers could be even more lethal. > > > > Needless to say I don't use that method any more and now use a compressed > > air device with weighted tennis balls which works a treat! > > > > 73, > > Tom G3OLB > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html -- 72, Rich Hurd / WC3T / DMR: 3142737 Northampton County RACES, EPA-ARRL Public Information Officer for Scouting Latitude: 40.761621 Longitude: -75.288988 (40°45.68' N 75°17.33' W) Grid: *FN20is* ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I thought the round-headed Charlie Brown had thoroughly researched the
"Trees Eating Things" problem ... 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 5/26/2019 12:04 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: > I was on a 50 mile Scout trek and two Scouts got a bear-bagging rope with a rock tied to it stuck in a tree. They pulled as hard as they could and it shot back and hit one of them in the neck. Luckily, it only hit soft tissue, but he was in shock and couldn’t turn his head for a couple of days. > > There is a kind of rope which is specifically designed to not get stuck in trees, “arborist throw line”. These days, I exclusively use that for bear bagging and for field antennas. Arborists also have throw weights for trees, though I don’t take those on hikes. > > http://www.wesspur.com/throw-line/zing-it-throw-line.html > > wunder > K6WRU > Walter Underwood > CM87wj > http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I have had my best success with using a bow and arrow. I drill into the nock and have either a fishing pole and line attached or mount the real on the bow. Open real works best as it creates the least amount of drag, resistance to the arrow. Do check the flight path carefully before letting the arrow loose.
I have used a pneumatic plumbing constructed cannon, wrist rocket and other methods. Those stinking weights and round objects, when they get swinging, wrap around the smallest objects in the trees and are a pain. The trees at my place are thick, a forest. However, the arrow goes up and comes straight down. The issue with any of these methods is the projection path including wind drift. Once I lob an arrow and it lands, I disconnect the fishing line from the arrow and then attach another fishing line with a fishing pole, then retrieve the line from the initial fishing reel. It may seem a bit more work, but less danger, and nothing gets lost. Then one can pull from the launching site whatever wire was to be strung. 73, Bill K9YEQ https://wrj-tech.com/ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Tom Boucher Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 1:35 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Trees eating wire Wayne's problem with a tree eating his wire reminds me of an incident some years ago when I was attempting to get an antenna halyard over a tall oak tree. I used some braided nylon cord with a probable breaking strain of several hundred pounds, which was attached to a drilled golf ball. My catapult put the ball and cord over a branch somewhat lower than intended so I attempted to pull it back. Of course the inevitable happened and the ball wound itself around the branch. No matter how hard I pulled the cord it wouldn't come. So I wound the cord around a piece of wood and with my heels dug into the ground, gave it my full body weight plus some. Finally it released itself and the golf ball shot towards me hitting me in the right foot and breaking several bones. I had literally shot myself in the foot! I'm just thankful it wasn't 2 or 3 feet up otherwise my voice would now be an octave or so higher. Heard the guys sniggering behind the curtain in the hospital A&E department after I told them I had shot myself with a golf ball. XYL not at all impressed at having to drive me to the salt mine for 6 weeks. Lead weights used by anglers could be even more lethal. Needless to say I don't use that method any more and now use a compressed air device with weighted tennis balls which works a treat! 73, Tom G3OLB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Always let the weight drop and remove it at ground level before retrieving the line. Highly recommend slick line,tennis ball, and pneumatic launcher with 60 lb spiderwire on an open faced spinning real.
Jim ab3cv On May 26, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Bill Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: I have had my best success with using a bow and arrow. I drill into the nock and have either a fishing pole and line attached or mount the real on the bow. Open real works best as it creates the least amount of drag, resistance to the arrow. Do check the flight path carefully before letting the arrow loose. I have used a pneumatic plumbing constructed cannon, wrist rocket and other methods. Those stinking weights and round objects, when they get swinging, wrap around the smallest objects in the trees and are a pain. The trees at my place are thick, a forest. However, the arrow goes up and comes straight down. The issue with any of these methods is the projection path including wind drift. Once I lob an arrow and it lands, I disconnect the fishing line from the arrow and then attach another fishing line with a fishing pole, then retrieve the line from the initial fishing reel. It may seem a bit more work, but less danger, and nothing gets lost. Then one can pull from the launching site whatever wire was to be strung. 73, Bill K9YEQ https://wrj-tech.com/ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Tom Boucher Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 1:35 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Trees eating wire Wayne's problem with a tree eating his wire reminds me of an incident some years ago when I was attempting to get an antenna halyard over a tall oak tree. I used some braided nylon cord with a probable breaking strain of several hundred pounds, which was attached to a drilled golf ball. My catapult put the ball and cord over a branch somewhat lower than intended so I attempted to pull it back. Of course the inevitable happened and the ball wound itself around the branch. No matter how hard I pulled the cord it wouldn't come. So I wound the cord around a piece of wood and with my heels dug into the ground, gave it my full body weight plus some. Finally it released itself and the golf ball shot towards me hitting me in the right foot and breaking several bones. I had literally shot myself in the foot! I'm just thankful it wasn't 2 or 3 feet up otherwise my voice would now be an octave or so higher. Heard the guys sniggering behind the curtain in the hospital A&E department after I told them I had shot myself with a golf ball. XYL not at all impressed at having to drive me to the salt mine for 6 weeks. Lead weights used by anglers could be even more lethal. Needless to say I don't use that method any more and now use a compressed air device with weighted tennis balls which works a treat! 73, Tom G3OLB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Jim, I have done that. I am going to use my bow one more time and if that has any glitches will try the Sherrill launcher. Not cheap but is commercial and well liked.
73, Bill K9YEQ https://wrj-tech.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Jim Miller <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 4:05 PM To: Bill Johnson <[hidden email]> Cc: Tom Boucher <[hidden email]>; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Trees eating wire Always let the weight drop and remove it at ground level before retrieving the line. Highly recommend slick line,tennis ball, and pneumatic launcher with 60 lb spiderwire on an open faced spinning real. Jim ab3cv On May 26, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Bill Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: I have had my best success with using a bow and arrow. I drill into the nock and have either a fishing pole and line attached or mount the real on the bow. Open real works best as it creates the least amount of drag, resistance to the arrow. Do check the flight path carefully before letting the arrow loose. I have used a pneumatic plumbing constructed cannon, wrist rocket and other methods. Those stinking weights and round objects, when they get swinging, wrap around the smallest objects in the trees and are a pain. The trees at my place are thick, a forest. However, the arrow goes up and comes straight down. The issue with any of these methods is the projection path including wind drift. Once I lob an arrow and it lands, I disconnect the fishing line from the arrow and then attach another fishing line with a fishing pole, then retrieve the line from the initial fishing reel. It may seem a bit more work, but less danger, and nothing gets lost. Then one can pull from the launching site whatever wire was to be strung. 73, Bill K9YEQ https://wrj-tech.com/ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Tom Boucher Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 1:35 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Trees eating wire Wayne's problem with a tree eating his wire reminds me of an incident some years ago when I was attempting to get an antenna halyard over a tall oak tree. I used some braided nylon cord with a probable breaking strain of several hundred pounds, which was attached to a drilled golf ball. My catapult put the ball and cord over a branch somewhat lower than intended so I attempted to pull it back. Of course the inevitable happened and the ball wound itself around the branch. No matter how hard I pulled the cord it wouldn't come. So I wound the cord around a piece of wood and with my heels dug into the ground, gave it my full body weight plus some. Finally it released itself and the golf ball shot towards me hitting me in the right foot and breaking several bones. I had literally shot myself in the foot! I'm just thankful it wasn't 2 or 3 feet up otherwise my voice would now be an octave or so higher. Heard the guys sniggering behind the curtain in the hospital A&E department after I told them I had shot myself with a golf ball. XYL not at all impressed at having to drive me to the salt mine for 6 weeks. Lead weights used by anglers could be even more lethal. Needless to say I don't use that method any more and now use a compressed air device with weighted tennis balls which works a treat! 73, Tom G3OLB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Forgot to add. Slit tennis ball on a seam and insert weight. I use 22 pennies. Close slit with hot melt glue.
Jim ab3cv On May 26, 2019, at 6:37 PM, Bill Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: Jim, I have done that. I am going to use my bow one more time and if that has any glitches will try the Sherrill launcher. Not cheap but is commercial and well liked. 73, Bill K9YEQ https://wrj-tech.com/ -----Original Message----- From: Jim Miller <[hidden email]> Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 4:05 PM To: Bill Johnson <[hidden email]> Cc: Tom Boucher <[hidden email]>; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Trees eating wire Always let the weight drop and remove it at ground level before retrieving the line. Highly recommend slick line,tennis ball, and pneumatic launcher with 60 lb spiderwire on an open faced spinning real. Jim ab3cv On May 26, 2019, at 4:36 PM, Bill Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote: I have had my best success with using a bow and arrow. I drill into the nock and have either a fishing pole and line attached or mount the real on the bow. Open real works best as it creates the least amount of drag, resistance to the arrow. Do check the flight path carefully before letting the arrow loose. I have used a pneumatic plumbing constructed cannon, wrist rocket and other methods. Those stinking weights and round objects, when they get swinging, wrap around the smallest objects in the trees and are a pain. The trees at my place are thick, a forest. However, the arrow goes up and comes straight down. The issue with any of these methods is the projection path including wind drift. Once I lob an arrow and it lands, I disconnect the fishing line from the arrow and then attach another fishing line with a fishing pole, then retrieve the line from the initial fishing reel. It may seem a bit more work, but less danger, and nothing gets lost. Then one can pull from the launching site whatever wire was to be strung. 73, Bill K9YEQ https://wrj-tech.com/ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Tom Boucher Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 1:35 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Trees eating wire Wayne's problem with a tree eating his wire reminds me of an incident some years ago when I was attempting to get an antenna halyard over a tall oak tree. I used some braided nylon cord with a probable breaking strain of several hundred pounds, which was attached to a drilled golf ball. My catapult put the ball and cord over a branch somewhat lower than intended so I attempted to pull it back. Of course the inevitable happened and the ball wound itself around the branch. No matter how hard I pulled the cord it wouldn't come. So I wound the cord around a piece of wood and with my heels dug into the ground, gave it my full body weight plus some. Finally it released itself and the golf ball shot towards me hitting me in the right foot and breaking several bones. I had literally shot myself in the foot! I'm just thankful it wasn't 2 or 3 feet up otherwise my voice would now be an octave or so higher. Heard the guys sniggering behind the curtain in the hospital A&E department after I told them I had shot myself with a golf ball. XYL not at all impressed at having to drive me to the salt mine for 6 weeks. Lead weights used by anglers could be even more lethal. Needless to say I don't use that method any more and now use a compressed air device with weighted tennis balls which works a treat! 73, Tom G3OLB ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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