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Tommy

Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

Hi folks,

Trying to get WSJT-X going with FT8 and my new KX2. I keep getting
a "/Hamlib error/: IO /error/ while opening connection to rig" error. I
have the right cables and jumper module in the signalink, Radio
selection is KX3 (it's supposed to work), USB and VOX is selected and
VOX is ON. 8 bits, one stop and handshake NONE. No matter what I do I
still get the error.

Any ideas please? It's driving me nuts! This shouldn't be this
difficult. Any help appreciated.

Tom - KB2SMS

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kevino z

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

Have you tried using FLrig? I use FLrig with my KX2 and KX3, then FLdigi talks to FLrig.
Also, make sure your comm port is the right one. I assume you’re on windows, but you didn’t mention. So, which OS are you on?
-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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On Jul 21, 2017, at 08:10, Tommy <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

Hi folks,

Trying to get WSJT-X going with FT8 and my new KX2. I keep getting a "/Hamlib error/: IO /error/ while opening connection to rig" error. I have the right cables and jumper module in the signalink, Radio selection is KX3 (it's supposed to work), USB and VOX is selected and VOX is ON. 8 bits, one stop and handshake NONE. No matter what I do I still get the error.

Any ideas please? It's driving me nuts! This shouldn't be this difficult. Any help appreciated.

Tom - KB2SMS

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Tommy

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

Hi Kevin,

Sorry about that, Windows 8.1. USB is selected for serial port.

Tom

On 07/21/2017 08:19 AM, kevino z wrote:

> Have you tried using FLrig? I use FLrig with my KX2 and KX3, then
> FLdigi talks to FLrig.
> Also, make sure your comm port is the right one. I assume you’re on
> windows, but you didn’t mention. So, which OS are you on?
> -Kevin (KK4YEL)
>
>
> No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a
> large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced !
>
> On Jul 21, 2017, at 08:10, Tommy <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Trying to get WSJT-X going with FT8 and my new KX2. I keep
>> getting a "/Hamlib error/: IO /error/ while opening connection to
>> rig" error. I have the right cables and jumper module in the
>> signalink, Radio selection is KX3 (it's supposed to work), USB and
>> VOX is selected and VOX is ON. 8 bits, one stop and handshake NONE.
>> No matter what I do I still get the error.
>>
>> Any ideas please? It's driving me nuts! This shouldn't be this
>> difficult. Any help appreciated.
>>
>> Tom - KB2SMS
>>
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Don Wilhelm

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

Tom,

You must define to Hamlib which COM port has been assigned to that USB
to serial adapter. Just saying USB is insufficient - Hamlib only knows
COM Port numbers.

If you did not see which COM port was assigned by your computer when you
plugged in the USB to serial adapter, open Device manager and expand the
PORTS entry. If the assigned COM port is not obvious, unplug it and see
which COM port goes away. Then plug it back in and see whhich COM port
is added.
Put that COM port number into Hamlib.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 7/21/2017 8:41 AM, Tommy wrote:

> Hi Kevin,
>
> Sorry about that, Windows 8.1. USB is selected for serial port.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> On 07/21/2017 08:19 AM, kevino z wrote:
>> Have you tried using FLrig? I use FLrig with my KX2 and KX3, then
>> FLdigi talks to FLrig.
>> Also, make sure your comm port is the right one. I assume you’re on
>> windows, but you didn’t mention. So, which OS are you on?
>> -Kevin (KK4YEL)
>>
>>
>> No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large
>> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced !
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 08:10, Tommy <[hidden email]
>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Trying to get WSJT-X going with FT8 and my new KX2. I keep
>>> getting a "/Hamlib error/: IO /error/ while opening connection to
>>> rig" error. I have the right cables and jumper module in the
>>> signalink, Radio selection is KX3 (it's supposed to work), USB and
>>> VOX is selected and VOX is ON. 8 bits, one stop and handshake NONE.
>>> No matter what I do I still get the error.
>>>
>>> Any ideas please? It's driving me nuts! This shouldn't be this
>>> difficult. Any help appreciated.
>>>
>>> Tom - KB2SMS
>>>
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Neil Zampella

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

In reply to this post by Tommy

Tom,

Why are you using a Signalink ??? Its not needed for WSJT-X, and I'm
not sure that its needed for any other digital mode. You can connect the
KX to your computer using the steps below.

1. Find yourself a good USB external soundcard that provides a 48,000
Hz DVD quality INPUT and OUTPUT. WSJT-X requires this, you can pick
one up at Amazon for less than $30, or get a good one for $70. I'm not
sure the Signalink provides that DVD quality out.
2. Use the KUSB cable for CAT control. WSJT-X will use it for PTT and
Freq control.
3. Get two 2.5mm cables for the stereo in and out and hook them up to
the external soundcard.
4. Set the Windows audio in for the soundcard at 100, and use the AF
knob to set the dB in to WSJT-X
5. Use the rig's PWR knob to set the output power, and then when in
tx, set the MIC knob to show 4 bars of ALC

That's it ... in WSJT-X set the rig for K3/KX3, set the serial port as
the same one that the KUSB is assigned to, baud rate at 38400, 8 data
bits, 2 stop bits, no handshake, PTT at CAT, Mode at Data/Pkt, Split at
RIG. Once its setup, the TEST CAT button there should turn green, you
can then click the TEST PTT and it will kick the rig in.

Hope this helps,

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 7/21/2017 8:08 AM, Tommy wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> Trying to get WSJT-X going with FT8 and my new KX2. I keep
> getting a "/Hamlib error/: IO /error/ while opening connection to rig"
> error. I have the right cables and jumper module in the signalink,
> Radio selection is KX3 (it's supposed to work), USB and VOX is
> selected and VOX is ON. 8 bits, one stop and handshake NONE. No matter
> what I do I still get the error.
>
> Any ideas please? It's driving me nuts! This shouldn't be this
> difficult. Any help appreciated.
>
> Tom - KB2SMS
>
>

briancom

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm

Rig control with WSJT is over rated. The only functionality I am aware
of is one click band change. I suppose if you uses its logging
capability, it would put the freq in there. However, the frequency is
the same for all QSO's within a band.

The present release for FT8 only has a blank frequency list.
So one doesn't even get that functionality.

I never got WSJT to work over a LPBRIDGE virtual port with the K3. It
only works via a direct connect port. WSPR has the same problem.
So I do without the above and manually log QSO's in the logging program
window. With JT65 that was fine. The higher QSO rate with FT8 makes
this more of a pain.

The above simply reflects my experience. I'd be happy to hear about
workarounds others have found.

73 de Brian/K3KO

On 7/21/2017 12:55 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Tom,
>
> You must define to Hamlib which COM port has been assigned to that USB
> to serial adapter. Just saying USB is insufficient - Hamlib only knows
> COM Port numbers.
>
> If you did not see which COM port was assigned by your computer when you
> plugged in the USB to serial adapter, open Device manager and expand the
> PORTS entry. If the assigned COM port is not obvious, unplug it and see
> which COM port goes away. Then plug it back in and see whhich COM port
> is added.
> Put that COM port number into Hamlib.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/21/2017 8:41 AM, Tommy wrote:
>> Hi Kevin,
>>
>> Sorry about that, Windows 8.1. USB is selected for serial port.
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/21/2017 08:19 AM, kevino z wrote:
>>> Have you tried using FLrig? I use FLrig with my KX2 and KX3, then
>>> FLdigi talks to FLrig.
>>> Also, make sure your comm port is the right one. I assume you’re on
>>> windows, but you didn’t mention. So, which OS are you on?
>>> -Kevin (KK4YEL)
>>>
>>>
>>> No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large
>>> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced !
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2017, at 08:10, Tommy <[hidden email]
>>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> Trying to get WSJT-X going with FT8 and my new KX2. I keep
>>>> getting a "/Hamlib error/: IO /error/ while opening connection to
>>>> rig" error. I have the right cables and jumper module in the
>>>> signalink, Radio selection is KX3 (it's supposed to work), USB and
>>>> VOX is selected and VOX is ON. 8 bits, one stop and handshake NONE.
>>>> No matter what I do I still get the error.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas please? It's driving me nuts! This shouldn't be this
>>>> difficult. Any help appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Tom - KB2SMS
>>>>
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Tommy

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

In reply to this post by Neil Zampella

Thanks for the info. I'm using a Signalink because I have one and bought
the appropriate cable for it. My issue is with the com port apparently.
WSJT-X won't let me select one, it just says "USB" with no other choices.

Tom

On 07/21/2017 09:14 AM, Neil Zampella wrote:

> Tom,
>
> Why are you using a Signalink ??? Its not needed for WSJT-X, and
> I'm not sure that its needed for any other digital mode. You can
> connect the KX to your computer using the steps below.
>
> 1. Find yourself a good USB external soundcard that provides a
> 48,000 Hz DVD quality INPUT and OUTPUT. WSJT-X requires this, you
> can pick one up at Amazon for less than $30, or get a good one for
> $70. I'm not sure the Signalink provides that DVD quality out.
> 2. Use the KUSB cable for CAT control. WSJT-X will use it for PTT
> and Freq control.
> 3. Get two 2.5mm cables for the stereo in and out and hook them up
> to the external soundcard.
> 4. Set the Windows audio in for the soundcard at 100, and use the AF
> knob to set the dB in to WSJT-X
> 5. Use the rig's PWR knob to set the output power, and then when in
> tx, set the MIC knob to show 4 bars of ALC
>
> That's it ... in WSJT-X set the rig for K3/KX3, set the serial port
> as the same one that the KUSB is assigned to, baud rate at 38400, 8
> data bits, 2 stop bits, no handshake, PTT at CAT, Mode at Data/Pkt,
> Split at RIG. Once its setup, the TEST CAT button there should turn
> green, you can then click the TEST PTT and it will kick the rig in.
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Neil, KN3ILZ
>
>
>
> On 7/21/2017 8:08 AM, Tommy wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Trying to get WSJT-X going with FT8 and my new KX2. I keep
>> getting a "/Hamlib error/: IO /error/ while opening connection to
>> rig" error. I have the right cables and jumper module in the
>> signalink, Radio selection is KX3 (it's supposed to work), USB and
>> VOX is selected and VOX is ON. 8 bits, one stop and handshake NONE.
>> No matter what I do I still get the error.
>>
>> Any ideas please? It's driving me nuts! This shouldn't be this
>> difficult. Any help appreciated.
>>
>> Tom - KB2SMS
>>
>>
>
>

Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

In reply to this post by briancom

I use the logging feature in WSJT-X. It does record the frequency and
signal reports in FT-8 mode as well as others. From this I export the
ADIF file to my logging program and upload to LOTW.

The issue I've encountered it that the ADIF Standard does not have the
FT-8 mode. Thus it is not correctly identified in either QRZ.COM log or
LOTW. Until the ADIF Standard is updated, we seem to be stuck. The
standards committee has been alerted to the needs.

Here are a few lines of my log from WSJT-X. Looks like all the data
needed is present. As you can see from my log, the frequency is not
"standard" with the band but the real frequency is recorded.

The sequence is: Date, time on, time off, call, grid, frequency, mode,
sig sent, sig received, power, mode, sent and received signal reports.

2017-07-21,01:05:45,2017-07-21,01:06:45,J69DS,FK94,10.137293,FT8,-10,-16,50,FT8
Sent: -10 Rcvd: -16,
2017-07-21,01:10:45,2017-07-21,01:11:45,ON8KW,JO20,10.138000,FT8,-01,+02,50,FT8
Sent: -01 Rcvd: +02,
2017-07-21,01:14:30,2017-07-21,01:15:27,VA3MJR,FN03,10.137850,FT8,-06,-02,50,FT8
Sent: -06 Rcvd: -02,
2017-07-21,01:15:45,2017-07-21,01:17:15,W7AH,DM42,10.137898,FT8,+04,-01,50,FT8
Sent: +04 Rcvd: -01,
2017-07-21,01:19:00,2017-07-21,01:20:00,W6GMT,EN37,10.137604,FT8,+00,-04,50,FT8
Sent: +00 Rcvd: -04,

73
Bob, K4TAX

On 7/21/2017 8:25 AM, brian wrote:

> Rig control with WSJT is over rated. The only functionality I am aware
> of is one click band change. I suppose if you uses its logging
> capability, it would put the freq in there. However, the frequency
> is the same for all QSO's within a band.
>
> The present release for FT8 only has a blank frequency list.
> So one doesn't even get that functionality.
>
> I never got WSJT to work over a LPBRIDGE virtual port with the K3. It
> only works via a direct connect port. WSPR has the same problem.
> So I do without the above and manually log QSO's in the logging
> program window. With JT65 that was fine. The higher QSO rate with
> FT8 makes this more of a pain.
>
> The above simply reflects my experience. I'd be happy to hear about
> workarounds others have found.
>
> 73 de Brian/K3KO

Neil Zampella

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

In reply to this post by Tommy

Tom,

the Signalink should have a COM port assigned against it. I'm assuming
you're using Windows, if so, go into the Device Manager, and check to
see if there are any PORTs listed. I suspect it doesn't show one.
I also assume that you have the Signalink selected as the Sound Card
under Audio. If you can't see it there, then you may be out of luck
with the Signalink, unless there are drivers you haven't installed.

Try this. Turn off all system sounds & JT-Alert sounds (if you have
it installed) and using stereo cables and the KUSB cable, connect right
to the computer, using the computer's soundcard.

Then set WSJT-X as I listed below, and make sure the audio shows the
computer soundcard's mike as input and speakers as output.

If it works that way, then the issue is with the Signalink.

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 7/21/2017 9:25 AM, Tommy wrote:

> Thanks for the info. I'm using a Signalink because I have one and
> bought the appropriate cable for it. My issue is with the com port
> apparently. WSJT-X won't let me select one, it just says "USB" with no
> other choices.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> On 07/21/2017 09:14 AM, Neil Zampella wrote:
>> Tom,
>>
>> Why are you using a Signalink ??? Its not needed for WSJT-X, and
>> I'm not sure that its needed for any other digital mode. You can
>> connect the KX to your computer using the steps below.
>>
>> 1. Find yourself a good USB external soundcard that provides a
>> 48,000 Hz DVD quality INPUT and OUTPUT. WSJT-X requires this, you
>> can pick one up at Amazon for less than $30, or get a good one for
>> $70. I'm not sure the Signalink provides that DVD quality out.
>> 2. Use the KUSB cable for CAT control. WSJT-X will use it for PTT
>> and Freq control.
>> 3. Get two 2.5mm cables for the stereo in and out and hook them up
>> to the external soundcard.
>> 4. Set the Windows audio in for the soundcard at 100, and use the
>> AF knob to set the dB in to WSJT-X
>> 5. Use the rig's PWR knob to set the output power, and then when
>> in tx, set the MIC knob to show 4 bars of ALC
>>
>> That's it ... in WSJT-X set the rig for K3/KX3, set the serial port
>> as the same one that the KUSB is assigned to, baud rate at 38400, 8
>> data bits, 2 stop bits, no handshake, PTT at CAT, Mode at Data/Pkt,
>> Split at RIG. Once its setup, the TEST CAT button there should turn
>> green, you can then click the TEST PTT and it will kick the rig in.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Neil, KN3ILZ
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/21/2017 8:08 AM, Tommy wrote:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> Trying to get WSJT-X going with FT8 and my new KX2. I keep
>>> getting a "/Hamlib error/: IO /error/ while opening connection to
>>> rig" error. I have the right cables and jumper module in the
>>> signalink, Radio selection is KX3 (it's supposed to work), USB and
>>> VOX is selected and VOX is ON. 8 bits, one stop and handshake NONE.
>>> No matter what I do I still get the error.
>>>
>>> Any ideas please? It's driving me nuts! This shouldn't be this
>>> difficult. Any help appreciated.
>>>
>>> Tom - KB2SMS
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Richard Ferch-2

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

In reply to this post by Tommy

The SignaLink has nothing to do with rig control. All it is is a
single-channel sound card, plus an external VOX circuit to generate PTT.
You don't need the VOX circuit with elecraft rigs, their own VOX works fine
in digital modes, so all you are getting from the SignaLink is the sound
card. You can get better sound cards for less, but if you already have a
SignaLink, you can use it as your sound card.

What you need for rig control is a serial port connection to the rig's
serial control port. The KXUSB is your best bet, or if you already have a
serial port or a USB-to-serial adapter, you can use a KXSER between the
serial port and the KX2.

In WSJT-X, for PTT you can simply use VOX, which does not require rig
control, or if you have rig control working, you can have the rig control
do the PTT. Apart from that, what rig control really gives you is frequency
control. In addition to giving you instant band changes and avoiding
logging contacts on the wrong band, rig control also enables WSJT-X's Split
capability, which tunes the rig's dial frequency automatically in order to
keep the audio tones you are using between 1500 Hz and 2000 Hz. This helps
avoid transmitting spurious signals created by audio harmonics, and it
ensures that the transmitted power does not drop off towards the edges of
the receiver bandpass.

Rig control is certainly worthwhile, but it needs something separate from
the SignaLink.

73,
Rich VE3KI

KB2SMS wrote:

> Thanks for the info. I'm using a Signalink because I have one and bought
> the appropriate cable for it. My issue is with the com port apparently.
> WSJT-X won't let me select one, it just says "USB" with no other choices.
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Seb

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

In reply to this post by briancom

I suggest you take some time to read the WSJTX documentation: http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-1.7.0.html#INTRO <http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-1.7.0.html#INTRO>

Here is a snippet which describes the main reason you should be using rig control:

Split Operation: Significant advantages result from using Split mode (separate VFOs for Rx and Tx) if your radio supports it. If it does not, WSJT-X can emulate such behavior. Either method will result in a cleaner transmitted signal, by keeping the Tx audio always in the range 1500 to 2000 Hz so that audio harmonics cannot pass through the Tx sideband filter. Select Rig to use the radio’s Split mode, or Fake It to have WSJT-X adjust the VFO frequency as needed, when T/R switching occurs. Choose None if you do not wish to use split operation.
The frequency list is blank by default. You need to first select your region in File, Settings, IARU Region. That will populate the frequency list with suggested frequencies. You are free to edit them as well.

I also was never able to get it to work reliably with LPBridge, but since I switched over to com0com along with Win4K3Suite it has been a pleasure to use.

73 de Sebastian, W4AS

> On Jul 21, 2017, at 9:25 AM, brian <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Rig control with WSJT is over rated. The only functionality I am aware of is one click band change. I suppose if you uses its logging capability, it would put the freq in there. However, the frequency is the same for all QSO's within a band.
>
> The present release for FT8 only has a blank frequency list.
> So one doesn't even get that functionality.
>
> I never got WSJT to work over a LPBRIDGE virtual port with the K3. It only works via a direct connect port. WSPR has the same problem.
> So I do without the above and manually log QSO's in the logging program window. With JT65 that was fine. The higher QSO rate with FT8 makes this more of a pain.
>
> The above simply reflects my experience. I'd be happy to hear about workarounds others have found.
>
> 73 de Brian/K3KO
>

kevino z

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

In reply to this post by Richard Ferch-2

Rig control enables split mode which is important. As was stated, you need to go into the device manager, ports, and see what comm port it is, and verify you have the correct one, baud, etc into the software.
-Kevin (KK4YEL)

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On Jul 21, 2017, at 11:52, Richard Ferch <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:

The SignaLink has nothing to do with rig control. All it is is a
single-channel sound card, plus an external VOX circuit to generate PTT.
You don't need the VOX circuit with elecraft rigs, their own VOX works fine
in digital modes, so all you are getting from the SignaLink is the sound
card. You can get better sound cards for less, but if you already have a
SignaLink, you can use it as your sound card.

What you need for rig control is a serial port connection to the rig's
serial control port. The KXUSB is your best bet, or if you already have a
serial port or a USB-to-serial adapter, you can use a KXSER between the
serial port and the KX2.

In WSJT-X, for PTT you can simply use VOX, which does not require rig
control, or if you have rig control working, you can have the rig control
do the PTT. Apart from that, what rig control really gives you is frequency
control. In addition to giving you instant band changes and avoiding
logging contacts on the wrong band, rig control also enables WSJT-X's Split
capability, which tunes the rig's dial frequency automatically in order to
keep the audio tones you are using between 1500 Hz and 2000 Hz. This helps
avoid transmitting spurious signals created by audio harmonics, and it
ensures that the transmitted power does not drop off towards the edges of
the receiver bandpass.

Rig control is certainly worthwhile, but it needs something separate from
the SignaLink.

73,
Rich VE3KI

KB2SMS wrote:

Thanks for the info. I'm using a Signalink because I have one and bought
the appropriate cable for it. My issue is with the com port apparently.
WSJT-X won't let me select one, it just says "USB" with no other choices.
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Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

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Hi Rich and gang,

I'm FINALLY making some progress here. I hooked up the KXUSB to the
ACC. port on the KX2 and the speaker cable from the Signalink to the
phone jack on the KX2 and I'm now seeing and decoding signals. I'm
seeing my monitor data on PSKreporter as well. Hitting "tune" in WSJT
keys the rig. Haven't tried sending a CW yet as I'm now trying to figure
out how to set up the auto respond/generate std msgs. feature. The wide
graph doesn't look right to me, looks "nasty". I see faint WIDE signals
through horizontal lines from top to bottom.

Tom - KB2SMS

On 07/21/2017 10:12 AM, Richard Ferch wrote:

> The SignaLink has nothing to do with rig control. All it is is a
> single-channel sound card, plus an external VOX circuit to generate PTT.
> You don't need the VOX circuit with elecraft rigs, their own VOX works fine
> in digital modes, so all you are getting from the SignaLink is the sound
> card. You can get better sound cards for less, but if you already have a
> SignaLink, you can use it as your sound card.
>
> What you need for rig control is a serial port connection to the rig's
> serial control port. The KXUSB is your best bet, or if you already have a
> serial port or a USB-to-serial adapter, you can use a KXSER between the
> serial port and the KX2.
>
> In WSJT-X, for PTT you can simply use VOX, which does not require rig
> control, or if you have rig control working, you can have the rig control
> do the PTT. Apart from that, what rig control really gives you is frequency
> control. In addition to giving you instant band changes and avoiding
> logging contacts on the wrong band, rig control also enables WSJT-X's Split
> capability, which tunes the rig's dial frequency automatically in order to
> keep the audio tones you are using between 1500 Hz and 2000 Hz. This helps
> avoid transmitting spurious signals created by audio harmonics, and it
> ensures that the transmitted power does not drop off towards the edges of
> the receiver bandpass.
>
> Rig control is certainly worthwhile, but it needs something separate from
> the SignaLink.
>
> 73,
> Rich VE3KI
>
> KB2SMS wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the info. I'm using a Signalink because I have one and bought
>> the appropriate cable for it. My issue is with the com port apparently.
>> WSJT-X won't let me select one, it just says "USB" with no other choices.
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Wes Stewart-2

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

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Agree. It won't work for me either using LPBridge.

Wes N7WS

On 7/21/2017 6:25 AM, brian wrote:

> ...
>
> I never got WSJT to work over a LPBRIDGE virtual port with the K3. It only
> works via a direct connect port. WSPR has the same problem.
> So I do without the above and manually log QSO's in the logging program
> window. With JT65 that was fine. The higher QSO rate with FT8 makes this
> more of a pain.
>
> The above simply reflects my experience. I'd be happy to hear about
> workarounds others have found.
>
> 73 de Brian/K3KO

Neil Zampella

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

In reply to this post by briancom

Actually, the rig control when using the KXUSB cable provides frequency
changes, as well as PTT and split control.

As far as the 'blank frequency list' .. all you need to do is RIGHT
CLICK in the frequency, and select RESET from the menu, the program will
then populate the list. When using WSJT-X and JT-Alert it logs to most
every local logging program like DXKeeper, or Log4OM, or online like eQSL.

FWIW why do you need to use a 'virtual' port with the K3 ??

Neil, KN3ILZ

On 7/21/2017 9:25 AM, brian wrote:

Neil Zampella

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

In reply to this post by Tommy

Tom,

You do not 'set up' auto sequencing and standard messages, the program
does that. All you need to do is enter your Callsign and GRID in the
settings for the program. You also need to make sure that you have a
good time sync program as time is critical with JT65/JT9 and MOST
critical with FT8.

A program like Dimension 4 will sync against the Bureau of Standards
time server, or other servers that may be closer to you. I use the
Naval Observatory time server myself to sync my laptop every 10 minutes.

Neil, KN3ILZ.

On 7/21/2017 2:43 PM, Tommy wrote:

> Hi Rich and gang,
>
> I'm FINALLY making some progress here. I hooked up the KXUSB to the
> ACC. port on the KX2 and the speaker cable from the Signalink to the
> phone jack on the KX2 and I'm now seeing and decoding signals. I'm
> seeing my monitor data on PSKreporter as well. Hitting "tune" in WSJT
> keys the rig. Haven't tried sending a CW yet as I'm now trying to
> figure out how to set up the auto respond/generate std msgs. feature.
> The wide graph doesn't look right to me, looks "nasty". I see faint
> WIDE signals through horizontal lines from top to bottom.
>
> Tom - KB2SMS
>
>

Tommy

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

Hi Neil,

Thanks for the info. I do have Dimension 4.

On 07/22/2017 01:08 AM, Neil Zampella wrote:

> Tom,
>
> You do not 'set up' auto sequencing and standard messages, the program
> does that. All you need to do is enter your Callsign and GRID in the
> settings for the program. You also need to make sure that you have a
> good time sync program as time is critical with JT65/JT9 and MOST
> critical with FT8.
>
> A program like Dimension 4 will sync against the Bureau of Standards
> time server, or other servers that may be closer to you. I use the
> Naval Observatory time server myself to sync my laptop every 10 minutes.
>
> Neil, KN3ILZ.
>
>
> On 7/21/2017 2:43 PM, Tommy wrote:
>> Hi Rich and gang,
>>
>> I'm FINALLY making some progress here. I hooked up the KXUSB to
>> the ACC. port on the KX2 and the speaker cable from the Signalink to
>> the phone jack on the KX2 and I'm now seeing and decoding signals.
>> I'm seeing my monitor data on PSKreporter as well. Hitting "tune" in
>> WSJT keys the rig. Haven't tried sending a CW yet as I'm now trying
>> to figure out how to set up the auto respond/generate std msgs.
>> feature. The wide graph doesn't look right to me, looks "nasty". I
>> see faint WIDE signals through horizontal lines from top to bottom.
>>
>> Tom - KB2SMS
>>
>>
>
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KA9EAK

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

Tom:

I just recently got FT8 going with my KX2. I also have a SignaLink USB but chose not to haul it along for portable operation. I purchased a $6.49 USB soundcard and it works great! If you are looking for a more portable alternative I have the details of my configuration posted on my blog: https://outbackofbeyond.wordpress.com/2017/07/21/fasten-your-seat-belts-for-ft8-camp/

73,

Tim
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Tommy

Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

Hi Tim,

Thanks for responding! I keep getting a "rig control error, do you
want to reconfigure the radio interface?" when I key the radio. I've
tried seemingly everything so far to no avail. I have the 2 signalink
cables in the right ports and no matter what options I try in rig
control I get the error. I HAVE ordered one of those USB sound cards but
this signalink should work. I AM receiving signals and decoding them.
Are you using the KXUSB with your set up and if so, whick port on the
KX2 is it in? Right now I've got mine in the acc. jack. Like I said, I'm
trying everything with no luck.

Tom - KB2SMS

On 07/22/2017 11:00 AM, KA9EAK wrote:

> Tom:
>
> I just recently got FT8 going with my KX2. I also have a SignaLink USB but
> chose not to haul it along for portable operation. I purchased a $6.49 USB
> soundcard and it works great! If you are looking for a more portable
> alternative I have the details of my configuration posted on my blog:
> https://outbackofbeyond.wordpress.com/2017/07/21/fasten-your-seat-belts-for-ft8-camp/
> <https://outbackofbeyond.wordpress.com/2017/07/21/fasten-your-seat-belts-for-ft8-camp/>
>
> 73,
>
> Tim
> KA9EAK
> https://outbackofbeyond.wordpress.com/
> <https://outbackofbeyond.wordpress.com/>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Trying to get on FT-8 with my KX2

Tom:

Yes, I am using the KX2 USB cable and it shows up on COM7 in my PC and yes, the 3.5mm plug is in the ACC jack on the radio.

I was re-reading the thread and noticed that earlier in the thread KN3ILZ outlined the steps to configure. Your response of only USB in the Serial Port drop-down indicates that WSJT-X doesn't see the KX2 USB cable. I had this happen to me until I realized that I still had the KX2 utility app running. It had the com port. Once I shut that down the com port was freed and COM7 showed up in the Serial Port drop-down in WSJT-X. Is the KX2 utility app still running on your PC?

On the File\Settings\Radio tab I have selected the rig as Elecraft K3/KX3 the serial port as COM7 and my PTT Method is CAT, not VOX.

As KN3ILZ said, click the Test CAT button and if it turns green it's configured properly.

I have the jumpers and cables for the SignaLink USB to KX2 as well. I've just never used them. If this hasn't solved the problem I can try it out with my SignaLink USB when I get home.

73,

Tim
KA9EAK