Two Button Press Timing

[GeorgeP1111]

I'm having a problem getting the knack of the Two button Pressing for the various functions.  Menu & Band for Tune or Band & RIT for Display.  Seems if I push them simultaneously I get one or the other, so I push the first one and wait a heartbeat and then push the second and this might work or I'll get the first buttons "Hold" function.

I get the "Tap" (press and release) idea, and I'm assuming the "Hold" is probably programmed for >1 second?

Does anyone know what the button delay configuration is for the Two Button Functions?  I get it right about 50 % of the time so maybe if I understand what it is expecting that will help me.

tnx
de George
WD0AKZ

[Don Wilhelm-4]

George,

The 2 button press is always like a HOLD (there is no 2 button TAP),
except you do it to 2 buttons at once.  I use two fingers of one hand.  
It may take a little practice.  As many times as I have done that "2
button press", I occasionally miss the window, especially on the mode
change using the outermost 2 buttons - I sometimes get RIT on and have
to turn RIT off and try again - so just watch the display to be certain
you got it right.

I really don't know how much time-spacing is allowed between the
detection of the first button pressed and the second one, but I am
certain the time is shorter than 1 second.

73,
Don W3FPR

GeorgeP1111 wrote:

> I'm having a problem getting the knack of the Two button Pressing for the
> various functions.  Menu & Band for Tune or Band & RIT for Display.  Seems
> if I push them simultaneously I get one or the other, so I push the first
> one and wait a heartbeat and then push the second and this might work or
> I'll get the first buttons "Hold" function.
>
> I get the "Tap" (press and release) idea, and I'm assuming the "Hold" is
> probably programmed for >1 second?
>
> Does anyone know what the button delay configuration is for the Two Button
> Functions?  I get it right about 50 % of the time so maybe if I understand
> what it is expecting that will help me.
>
> tnx
> de George
> WD0AKZ
>  
>  

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[GeorgeP1111]

Hi Don...

> I really don't know how much time-spacing is allowed between the detection
> of the first button pressed and the second one, but I am certain the time
> is shorter than 1 second.

Yup, that is what I'd like to find out.  I'm sure with more use I'll get the
hang of it, but it seems more touchy then I have seen on other devices.  Is
the person who wrote the firmware for the KX1 still around?  I would still
like to find out how this button press sequence is designed to be used.

tnx
de George

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[Don Wilhelm-4]

George,

Yes, the person who wrote the firmware is still around - none other than
Wayne Burdick.
That question would have to be addressed by Wayne.  I don't know if he
is paying attention to this thread or not.
If he does not pick up on it in  few days, perhaps a direct email would
provide the answer.

73,
Don W3FPR

George Pasek wrote:
> Yup, that is what I'd like to find out.  I'm sure with more use I'll get the
> hang of it, but it seems more touchy then I have seen on other devices.  Is
> the person who wrote the firmware for the KX1 still around?  I would still
> like to find out how this button press sequence is designed to be used.
>
>  
>
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[M0XDF]

Could I just ask people to put K3 or K2 or KX1 in the subject line of their posts please.
Took me a few minutes to realise I hadn't missed something in my K3 manual and this post related to KX1 :-)
73 de M0XDF
--
i don't do caps, i'm a unix man!
david ferrington, 1953 -

On 20 Mar 2010, at 22:06, GeorgeP1111 wrote:

>
> I'm having a problem getting the knack of the Two button Pressing for the
> various functions.  Menu & Band for Tune or Band & RIT for Display.  Seems
> if I push them simultaneously I get one or the other, so I push the first
> one and wait a heartbeat and then push the second and this might work or
> I'll get the first buttons "Hold" function.

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[GeorgeP1111]

I'm sorry about that Dave, I had read that one should put the model in the subject line but I forgot.  I was listing my question in the KX1 section of the forum and putting KX1 in the header just slipped by, I'll make sure to do it correctly next time.

de George
WD0AKZ

[M0XDF]

No problem George, we all forget sometimes, hence a gentle reminder to the list now and then.

Had me going for a while until I thought about it and realised the Band & RIT buttons are on opposite sides of the front panel on a K3 - very difficult to press both with one hand.

I hope Don helped with his reply.

Good DX
73 de M0XDF

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On 21 Mar 2010, at 12:57, GeorgeP1111 wrote:

>
> I'm sorry about that Dave, I had read that one should put the model in the
> subject line but I forgot.  I was listing my question in the KX1 section of
> the forum and putting KX1 in the header just slipped by, I'll make sure to
> do it correctly next time.

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[dave-281]

David,

Great idea . . . and since K3 users are the biggest offenders of this
particular offense . . .

Maybe we could get K3 users to put "K3" in their subject line???



73 de dave
ab9ca/4







David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
> Could I just ask people to put K3 or K2 or KX1 in the subject line of their posts please.
> Took me a few minutes to realise I hadn't missed something in my K3 manual and this post related to KX1 :-)
> 73 de M0XDF
>  
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[M0XDF]

I totally agree. I f post about the K3 I do, but if someone doesn't and I change the subject, that breaks the thread on threaded email clients that don't use message id to maintain the thread.
73 de M0XDF
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On 21 Mar 2010, at 15:35, dave wrote:

> David,
>
> Great idea . . . and since K3 users are the biggest offenders of this particular offense . . .
>
> Maybe we could get K3 users to put "K3" in their subject line???

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