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Orville
Or possibly consider the method I use which does more than any other product
currently available on the market, including contest serial number
generation, ultimatic keying, bug emulation, self-contained log book, rtty
function, call sign lookups to QRZ, automatic ADIF generation and updates to
eQSL and LoTW, and much more, All this is through the wonder of my Nr. 2
pencil and a Big Chief tablet in conjunction with my PC and K3.

(This system does not require any software updates to my K-line which
currently exceeds all my needs and expectations.)

 

73,

K5VWW

 

 

 

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Re: Ultimate System

Byron Servies
Moleskine?  Fooey.  FieldNotesBrand.com all the way!

:D

73, Byron N6NUL

On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I strongly recommend that you upgrade to Moleskine notebooks and Blackwing pencils. Contest logging deserves the best.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
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>
> On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Orville <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Or possibly consider the method I use which does more than any other product
>> currently available on the market, including contest serial number
>> generation, ultimatic keying, bug emulation, self-contained log book, rtty
>> function, call sign lookups to QRZ, automatic ADIF generation and updates to
>> eQSL and LoTW, and much more, All this is through the wonder of my Nr. 2
>> pencil and a Big Chief tablet in conjunction with my PC and K3.
>>
>> (This system does not require any software updates to my K-line which
>> currently exceeds all my needs and expectations.)
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> K5VWW
>>
>
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Re: Ultimate System

Charlie T, K3ICH
How about sealskins....from a REAL Silkie.

Chas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Byron Servies" <[hidden email]>
To: "Walter Underwood" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ultimate System


> Moleskine?  Fooey.  FieldNotesBrand.com all the way!
>
> :D
>
> 73, Byron N6NUL
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 4:44 PM, Walter Underwood <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>> I strongly recommend that you upgrade to Moleskine notebooks and
>> Blackwing pencils. Contest logging deserves the best.
>>
>> wunder
>> K6WRU
>> CM87wj
>> http://observer.wunderwood.org/
>>
>> On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Orville <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Or possibly consider the method I use which does more than any other
>>> product
>>> currently available on the market, including contest serial number
>>> generation, ultimatic keying, bug emulation, self-contained log book,
>>> rtty
>>> function, call sign lookups to QRZ, automatic ADIF generation and
>>> updates to
>>> eQSL and LoTW, and much more, All this is through the wonder of my Nr. 2
>>> pencil and a Big Chief tablet in conjunction with my PC and K3.
>>>
>>> (This system does not require any software updates to my K-line which
>>> currently exceeds all my needs and expectations.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> K5VWW
>>>
>>
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Re: Ultimate System

Phil Wheeler-2
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Maybe you need a Livescribe pen so the logs can be
handwritten and then digitized :-)

http://www.livescribe.com/en-us/smartpen/ls3/

73, Phil W7OX

On 12/7/14 4:44 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:

> I strongly recommend that you upgrade to Moleskine notebooks and Blackwing pencils. Contest logging deserves the best.
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/
>
> On Dec 7, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Orville <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Or possibly consider the method I use which does more than any other product
>> currently available on the market, including contest serial number
>> generation, ultimatic keying, bug emulation, self-contained log book, rtty
>> function, call sign lookups to QRZ, automatic ADIF generation and updates to
>> eQSL and LoTW, and much more, All this is through the wonder of my Nr. 2
>> pencil and a Big Chief tablet in conjunction with my PC and K3.
>>
>> (This system does not require any software updates to my K-line which
>> currently exceeds all my needs and expectations.)
>>
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> K5VWW

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Re: Ultimate System

stan levandowski
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In January 2014 I took a look at my station - all that equipment, all
those keys, all those cables -- lots of physical "stuff" between me and
the ham radio I used to enjoy and almost as much software. All I really
needed was my KX3, a wire antenna, pencil and paper and a bug or Cootie.


So I put my CW Machine in a freezer bag and stuck it up on a shelf.  I
bought an ARRL paper log book and a fancy-schmantzy .5 mm lead pencil.  
I divorced myself from LoTW and eQSL and noted "QSL via Mail Only" on
QRZ. Then I downloaded my HRD log and scratched HRD from my computer.
 Finally I moved the computer out of the shack.  I was "Looking for an
Echo" of my youth in the 60s; a simpler time.  I was going to hand log
all my contacts, exchange "real" QSL cards, only use my bug and 'swiper
and turn my back on all the technology and interfaces that I held
responsible for my discontent.


Well, that lasted nine months.  It was the biggest mistake I've ever
made in ham radio.


Thankfully, the CW Machine's non-volatile memory still contained my old
log records and ARRL's LoTW Help Desk helped me get back into the fold.
 The computer is back in the shack and I'm now reconnected with the
technology aids that really do add so much value and facility.


The only "good" that came from this experience was the ultimate
realization that it's not 1960 and I can't go home anymore.  I'm stuck
in the 21st Century whether I like it or not.


73,
Stan WB2LQF












On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 06:01 PM, Orville wrote:

> Or possibly consider the method I use which does more than any other
> product
> currently available on the market, including contest serial number
> generation, ultimatic keying, bug emulation, self-contained log book,
> rtty
> function, call sign lookups to QRZ, automatic ADIF generation and
> updates to
> eQSL and LoTW, and much more, All this is through the wonder of my Nr.
> 2
> pencil and a Big Chief tablet in conjunction with my PC and K3.
>
> (This system does not require any software updates to my K-line which
> currently exceeds all my needs and expectations.)
>
>
> 73,
>
> K5VWW
>
>
>
>
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Re: Ultimate System

Alan. G4GNX
Stan.

I felt the same way, having returned to Ham Radio after 20 years away (shame
on me!!!).

I still feel the same way in some circumstances and I still hand write my
QSOs and transfer to a computer log later. One reason for this is that I
don't believe in using one media to prop-up another. i.e. The Internet to
prop-up Ham Radio. Ham Radio is quite capable of standing on its own two
feet, but it takes some work on our part. This seems to be part of the
problem - the World is getting lazy. However, as in all things, progress
must be made and I truly welcome such enhancements as DSP, high quality
filters, transistors replacing tubes and my one major indulgence - an
auto-tuner (apart from the one in my K3).

I suppose that if all of this extra 'stuff' had been available in the very
early days, we would all have accepted it as part of the scene and looked
for new challenges to occupy our time.

One of my immediate issues is that my shack is at present and old kitchen
cabinet in a corner of my workshop and there's no room for computers and no
hard-wired broadband. It's also getting too cold to be out there for long,
so I'm moving everything indoors, but I have to finish building the
purpose-built room first. Perhaps I will accept some of the "must have"
add-ons more readily when there's space to lay them out where they're
comfortable to use.

One further issues is with keyers. Back in the days when I was very active,
I built my own iambic paddle and keying circuitry. Having practised with
that and used it for many years, I guess that the muscle memory is still
with me, and I'm finding it quite difficult to reliably use a more
up-to-date keyer in mode A. ( never liked mode B and dot stores anyway).
It's probably purely a timing issue that I have to re-learn. My old keyer
made the decision which dot or dash to send next right at the point that the
previous character had finished sending and only if one or more paddles was
still being held. There doesn't seem to be a modern equivalent. Mode A is
the nearest, but seems to make the decision what to send next (or not at
all) before the last character has finished sounding. My issue is in letting
go one or more paddles at the correct time, which is in milliseconds, so
that extra unwanted dits or dahs aren't sent. I really don't want to go back
to a straight key, but it would seem that progress in this case is a
hindrance. :-(

73,

Alan. G4GNX

-----Original Message-----
From: stan levandowski
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 2:43 AM
To: Orville
Cc: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ultimate System

In January 2014 I took a look at my station - all that equipment, all
those keys, all those cables -- lots of physical "stuff" between me and
the ham radio I used to enjoy and almost as much software. All I really
needed was my KX3, a wire antenna, pencil and paper and a bug or Cootie.


So I put my CW Machine in a freezer bag and stuck it up on a shelf.  I
bought an ARRL paper log book and a fancy-schmantzy .5 mm lead pencil.
I divorced myself from LoTW and eQSL and noted "QSL via Mail Only" on
QRZ. Then I downloaded my HRD log and scratched HRD from my computer.
Finally I moved the computer out of the shack.  I was "Looking for an
Echo" of my youth in the 60s; a simpler time.  I was going to hand log
all my contacts, exchange "real" QSL cards, only use my bug and 'swiper
and turn my back on all the technology and interfaces that I held
responsible for my discontent.


Well, that lasted nine months.  It was the biggest mistake I've ever
made in ham radio.


Thankfully, the CW Machine's non-volatile memory still contained my old
log records and ARRL's LoTW Help Desk helped me get back into the fold.
The computer is back in the shack and I'm now reconnected with the
technology aids that really do add so much value and facility.


The only "good" that came from this experience was the ultimate
realization that it's not 1960 and I can't go home anymore.  I'm stuck
in the 21st Century whether I like it or not.


73,
Stan WB2LQF












On Sun, Dec 07, 2014 at 06:01 PM, Orville wrote:

> Or possibly consider the method I use which does more than any other
> product
> currently available on the market, including contest serial number
> generation, ultimatic keying, bug emulation, self-contained log book, rtty
> function, call sign lookups to QRZ, automatic ADIF generation and updates
> to
> eQSL and LoTW, and much more, All this is through the wonder of my Nr. 2
> pencil and a Big Chief tablet in conjunction with my PC and K3.
>
> (This system does not require any software updates to my K-line which
> currently exceeds all my needs and expectations.)
>
>
> 73,
>
> K5VWW
>
>
>
>
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Re: Ultimate System

k6dgw
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Tried a CW NAQP not too long ago with a Hallicrafters SX-28 and a 40
meter ARC-5.  I lasted 2 hours.  The "Good Old Days" were less good than
I thought I remembered.


On 12/7/2014 6:43 PM, stan levandowski wrote:

> In January 2014 I took a look at my station - all that equipment, all
> those keys, all those cables -- lots of physical "stuff" between me and
> the ham radio I used to enjoy and almost as much software. All I really
> needed was my KX3, a wire antenna, pencil and paper and a bug or Cootie.
>
> So I put my CW Machine in a freezer bag and stuck it up on a shelf.  I
> bought an ARRL paper log book and a fancy-schmantzy .5 mm lead pencil. I
> divorced myself from LoTW and eQSL and noted "QSL via Mail Only" on QRZ.
> Then I downloaded my HRD log and scratched HRD from my computer.
>   Finally I moved the computer out of the shack.  I was "Looking for an
> Echo" of my youth in the 60s; a simpler time.  I was going to hand log
> all my contacts, exchange "real" QSL cards, only use my bug and 'swiper
> and turn my back on all the technology and interfaces that I held
> responsible for my discontent.
>
> Well, that lasted nine months.  It was the biggest mistake I've ever
> made in ham radio.

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Re: Ultimate System

Rick WA6NHC
In reply to this post by Alan. G4GNX
Let's see... You're supporting making the contact, hand writing in the log details, taking the time to fill out, mail then wait for a returning QSL card all to fill your day.

I submit that electronic logging, with automatic upload to services like LOTW, Clublog, QRZ and getting a near immediate return confirmation results in one huge benefit... I can get back to operating quicker to make more contacts (be it DX, a contest or a ragchew).  It's simply a more efficient use of time, sometimes in places where time and numbers matter (like contests).  It allows me to do more of what I want to do, operate.

I also use a remotely controlled station, automatic antenna tuner and antenna switch and an instant on amplifier.  I started with much less and I enjoy the reduced load on me so I can focus on different things and enjoy them more.  I know I can manage with less but have no desire to return to my earlier stations.

I look at it as combining my interests (and toys like computers, networks, radios) into ways that make things both complex to set up (any modern radio), but easier to use once that is completed.  It has allowed me to do some super cool things such as having my morning cuppa while watching the sunrise on an Alaskan volcano while participating in the local 'old guy' net at home, several thousand miles away, thanks to the new technology I use.  (I bluetooth audio to a laptop or iOS device and use the remote control features of my home station from the same device.)  I can go back to old school, but at what cost in this example?

In fairness, the 'new' method of logging and QSL isn't as elegant or personal as receiving a hand written card, akin to texting instead of mail or a phone call compared to email.  I get that.  But with the limited time we have in this place, I'll take the fun over the tedious.  I'll leave the personal touches for the contact itself and hopefully recontact that station on several band/modes to develop a relationship over time.

73 es Happy Christmas,
Rick, WA6NHC

iPad = small keypad = typos = sorry ;-)

> On Dec 8, 2014, at 5:17 AM, G4GNX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Stan.
>
> I felt the same way, having returned to Ham Radio after 20 years away (shame on me!!!).
>
> I still feel the same way in some circumstances and I still hand write my QSOs and transfer to a computer log later. One reason for this is that I don't believe in using one media to prop-up another. i.e. The Internet to prop-up Ham Radio. Ham Radio is quite capable of standing on its own two feet, but it takes some work on our part. This seems to be part of the problem - the World is getting lazy. However, as in all things, progress must be made and I truly welcome such enhancements as DSP, high quality filters, transistors replacing tubes and my one major indulgence - an auto-tuner (apart from the one in my K3).
>
> I suppose that if all of this extra 'stuff' had been available in the very early days, we would all have accepted it as part of the scene and looked for new challenges to occupy our time.
>
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Re: Ultimate System

hf4me
But, The memories are great.  73, Jim KG0KP

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rick
Bates, WA6NHC
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 11:34 AM
To: G4GNX
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ultimate System

Let's see... You're supporting making the contact, hand writing in the log
details, taking the time to fill out, mail then wait for a returning QSL
card all to fill your day.

I submit that electronic logging, with automatic upload to services like
LOTW, Clublog, QRZ and getting a near immediate return confirmation results
in one huge benefit... I can get back to operating quicker to make more
contacts (be it DX, a contest or a ragchew).  It's simply a more efficient
use of time, sometimes in places where time and numbers matter (like
contests).  It allows me to do more of what I want to do, operate.

I also use a remotely controlled station, automatic antenna tuner and
antenna switch and an instant on amplifier.  I started with much less and I
enjoy the reduced load on me so I can focus on different things and enjoy
them more.  I know I can manage with less but have no desire to return to my
earlier stations.

I look at it as combining my interests (and toys like computers, networks,
radios) into ways that make things both complex to set up (any modern
radio), but easier to use once that is completed.  It has allowed me to do
some super cool things such as having my morning cuppa while watching the
sunrise on an Alaskan volcano while participating in the local 'old guy' net
at home, several thousand miles away, thanks to the new technology I use.
(I bluetooth audio to a laptop or iOS device and use the remote control
features of my home station from the same device.)  I can go back to old
school, but at what cost in this example?

In fairness, the 'new' method of logging and QSL isn't as elegant or
personal as receiving a hand written card, akin to texting instead of mail
or a phone call compared to email.  I get that.  But with the limited time
we have in this place, I'll take the fun over the tedious.  I'll leave the
personal touches for the contact itself and hopefully recontact that station
on several band/modes to develop a relationship over time.

73 es Happy Christmas,
Rick, WA6NHC

iPad = small keypad = typos = sorry ;-)

> On Dec 8, 2014, at 5:17 AM, G4GNX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Stan.
>
> I felt the same way, having returned to Ham Radio after 20 years away
(shame on me!!!).
>
> I still feel the same way in some circumstances and I still hand write my
QSOs and transfer to a computer log later. One reason for this is that I
don't believe in using one media to prop-up another. i.e. The Internet to
prop-up Ham Radio. Ham Radio is quite capable of standing on its own two
feet, but it takes some work on our part. This seems to be part of the
problem - the World is getting lazy. However, as in all things, progress
must be made and I truly welcome such enhancements as DSP, high quality
filters, transistors replacing tubes and my one major indulgence - an
auto-tuner (apart from the one in my K3).
>
> I suppose that if all of this extra 'stuff' had been available in the very
early days, we would all have accepted it as part of the scene and looked
for new challenges to occupy our time.
>
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Re: Ultimate System

W1KSZ
How about waiting 3 years for the card for a new one from Box 88 !!

73 es HH, Dick, W1KSZ


On 12/8/2014 2:53 PM, Jim Miller wrote:

> But, The memories are great.  73, Jim KG0KP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rick
> Bates, WA6NHC
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 11:34 AM
> To: G4GNX
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Ultimate System
>
> Let's see... You're supporting making the contact, hand writing in the log
> details, taking the time to fill out, mail then wait for a returning QSL
> card all to fill your day.
>
> I submit that electronic logging, with automatic upload to services like
> LOTW, Clublog, QRZ and getting a near immediate return confirmation results
> in one huge benefit... I can get back to operating quicker to make more
> contacts (be it DX, a contest or a ragchew).  It's simply a more efficient
> use of time, sometimes in places where time and numbers matter (like
> contests).  It allows me to do more of what I want to do, operate.
>
> I also use a remotely controlled station, automatic antenna tuner and
> antenna switch and an instant on amplifier.  I started with much less and I
> enjoy the reduced load on me so I can focus on different things and enjoy
> them more.  I know I can manage with less but have no desire to return to my
> earlier stations.
>
> I look at it as combining my interests (and toys like computers, networks,
> radios) into ways that make things both complex to set up (any modern
> radio), but easier to use once that is completed.  It has allowed me to do
> some super cool things such as having my morning cuppa while watching the
> sunrise on an Alaskan volcano while participating in the local 'old guy' net
> at home, several thousand miles away, thanks to the new technology I use.
> (I bluetooth audio to a laptop or iOS device and use the remote control
> features of my home station from the same device.)  I can go back to old
> school, but at what cost in this example?
>
> In fairness, the 'new' method of logging and QSL isn't as elegant or
> personal as receiving a hand written card, akin to texting instead of mail
> or a phone call compared to email.  I get that.  But with the limited time
> we have in this place, I'll take the fun over the tedious.  I'll leave the
> personal touches for the contact itself and hopefully recontact that station
> on several band/modes to develop a relationship over time.
>
> 73 es Happy Christmas,
> Rick, WA6NHC
>
> iPad = small keypad = typos = sorry ;-)
>
>> On Dec 8, 2014, at 5:17 AM, G4GNX <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Stan.
>>
>> I felt the same way, having returned to Ham Radio after 20 years away
> (shame on me!!!).
>> I still feel the same way in some circumstances and I still hand write my
> QSOs and transfer to a computer log later. One reason for this is that I
> don't believe in using one media to prop-up another. i.e. The Internet to
> prop-up Ham Radio. Ham Radio is quite capable of standing on its own two
> feet, but it takes some work on our part. This seems to be part of the
> problem - the World is getting lazy. However, as in all things, progress
> must be made and I truly welcome such enhancements as DSP, high quality
> filters, transistors replacing tubes and my one major indulgence - an
> auto-tuner (apart from the one in my K3).
>> I suppose that if all of this extra 'stuff' had been available in the very
> early days, we would all have accepted it as part of the scene and looked
> for new challenges to occupy our time.
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Re: Ultimate System

Rick WA6NHC
But on the day it FINALLY arrives.... oh happy day!

Great memories, but things always look better when looking back.  ;o)

Just like I don't want to chop firewood to cook a meal or heat the house...  I'm not in as good shape but conveniences leave more time to do fun things and the extra padding is insulation.  ;o)

Rick, WA6NHC

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> On Dec 8, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Richard Solomon <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> How about waiting 3 years for the card for a new one from Box 88 !!
>
> 73 es HH, Dick, W1KSZ
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>> On 12/8/2014 2:53 PM, Jim Miller wrote:
>> But, The memories are great.  73, Jim KG0KP
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That is one of the great parts of this hobby.There is a bit of something for everyone.
I personally spend more time building and experimenting than actually operating on the air.
I prefer to keep my operating very simple as in CW only. I have tried many of the other modes but  I like the simplicity of CW. The only QSLing I do is to return ones that I get. I tried a computer connected to my  radios but prefer not to have one connected. I do not contest or keep track of DX contacts. I just enjoy making CW contacts and that is enough for me. I enjoy the hobby very much, in my own way.
That is just my choice of operating style, right and wrong doesn't enter into the equation.
Enjoyment is what it is all about, sometimes we forget that it is a hobby and there are many other things in life much more important than Ham radio.
Now, back to my cave to build something.
73's to all
Larry
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Re: Ultimate System

Phil Wheeler-2
Same here, Larry re building and experimenting.
Oddly, as computer focused as I am -- three in the
shack and two in the house, with OS X (release and
beta), Win 7, Win 8.1 and Linux -- I seldom use
one in ham radio, expect when operating PSK31.
Maybe one of these days I'll make it into the 21st
century, ham-wise :-)

Phil W7OX

On 12/8/14 2:55 PM, N0SA wrote:

> That is one of the great parts of this hobby.There is a bit of something for
> everyone.
> I personally spend more time building and experimenting than actually
> operating on the air.
> I prefer to keep my operating very simple as in CW only. I have tried many
> of the other modes but  I like the simplicity of CW. The only QSLing I do is
> to return ones that I get. I tried a computer connected to my  radios but
> prefer not to have one connected. I do not contest or keep track of DX
> contacts. I just enjoy making CW contacts and that is enough for me. I enjoy
> the hobby very much, in my own way.
> That is just my choice of operating style, right and wrong doesn't enter
> into the equation.
> Enjoyment is what it is all about, sometimes we forget that it is a hobby
> and there are many other things in life much more important than Ham radio.
> Now, back to my cave to build something.
> 73's to all
> Larry
> n0sa

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Re: Ultimate System

mike
My solution is two stations in the shack. One side of the room is for my K-line modern operating station with three monitors, loads of soeftware and lots of bells and whistles. I use it for DX chasing and contesting. The other side of the room has my Drake operating station with 4B Twins and a TR-4Cw. Knob twisting and meter deflections and tubes glowing in the night take me back 40 years. Hand logging and all, it is great for ragchewing, the Twins on CW and the TR-4Cw on SSB. Lot's of continuing projects on both sides of the shack including new software, RFI challenges, upgrading power supplies. Ham radio new or old is just plain fun!  73  ..mike  AI6II