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I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. I'm the bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to happen, but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that.
There are three major documents in the works: 1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the lower-left-hand corner of the LCD. For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, late next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind going through 60 pages of text, trying every link. In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST CONTROL" button that takes you directly to text most closely associated with the last operation performed. 2. K4 Owner's Manual Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's manual will be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and indexed .pdf file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4 users have been using a much smaller document that has many of the same illustrations. The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's manual, so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is blessed. 3. K4 Programmer's Reference An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're trying to expedite the public version of the reference so developers can take advantage of all of the new features. * * * If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly (though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than usual, so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you instantly). As usual, thanks for your patience. 73, Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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When the K4 firmware is updated, will that install app and package now include an updated manual, installed on the K4 so it's always the most current (or at least as current as the firmware)? I realize that rewriting/updating the manual delays the release of the firmware. 73, stay safe, Rick NK7I On 9/10/2020 6:28 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. I'm the bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to happen, but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that. > > There are three major documents in the works: > > 1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual > > This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the lower-left-hand corner of the LCD. > > For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, late next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind going through 60 pages of text, trying every link. > > In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST CONTROL" button that takes you directly to text most closely associated with the last operation performed. > > 2. K4 Owner's Manual > > Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's manual will be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and indexed .pdf file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4 users have been using a much smaller document that has many of the same illustrations. > > The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's manual, so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is blessed. > > 3. K4 Programmer's Reference > > An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're trying to expedite the public version of the reference so developers can take advantage of all of the new features. > > * * * > > If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly (though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than usual, so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you instantly). > > As usual, thanks for your patience. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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What manuals must be completed before hardware ships.
My interpretation is hardware will not ship this month. de Dave K5MWR On September 10, 2020 7:28:21 PM MDT, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: >I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. >I'm the bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to >happen, but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that. > >There are three major documents in the works: > >1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual > >This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external >monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the >lower-left-hand corner of the LCD. > >For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, >late next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't >mind going through 60 pages of text, trying every link. > >In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct >hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST >CONTROL" button that takes you directly to text most closely associated >with the last operation performed. > >2. K4 Owner's Manual > >Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's >manual will be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable >and indexed .pdf file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early >K4 users have been using a much smaller document that has many of the >same illustrations. > >The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's >manual, so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former >is blessed. > >3. K4 Programmer's Reference > >An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few >developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available >for the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But >we're trying to expedite the public version of the reference so >developers can take advantage of all of the new features. > >* * * > >If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't >answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me >directly (though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more >popular than usual, so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you >instantly). > >As usual, thanks for your patience. > >73, >Wayne >N6KR > >______________________________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >Message delivered to [hidden email] -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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100% manual completion is not a prerequisite to shipping. We're temporarily using the early versions, and working hard to get the finished versions ready.
73, Wayne N6KR > On Sep 10, 2020, at 7:56 PM, David Box <[hidden email]> wrote: > > What manuals must be completed before hardware ships. > My interpretation is hardware will not ship this month. > > de Dave K5MWR > > On September 10, 2020 7:28:21 PM MDT, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. I'm the bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to happen, but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that. > > There are three major documents in the works: > > 1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual > > This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the lower-left-hand corner of the LCD. > > For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, late next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind going through 60 pages of text, trying every link. > > In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST CONTROL" button that takes you directly to text most closely associated with the last operation performed. > > 2. K4 Owner's Manual > > Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's manual will be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and indexed .pdf file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4 users have been using a much smaller document that has many of the same illustrations. > > The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's manual, so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is blessed. > > 3. K4 Programmer's Reference > > An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're trying to expedite the public version of the reference so developers can take advantage of all of the new features. > > * * * > > If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly (though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than usual, so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you instantly). > > As usual, thanks for your patience. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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All manuals will be kept updated to reflect the current software.
Wayne N6KR > On Sep 10, 2020, at 7:55 PM, Rick NK7I <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Wayne, > > When the K4 firmware is updated, will that install app and package now include an updated manual, installed on the K4 so it's always the most current (or at least as current as the firmware)? I realize that rewriting/updating the manual delays the release of the firmware. > > 73, stay safe, > Rick NK7I > > > On 9/10/2020 6:28 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. I'm the bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to happen, but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that. >> >> There are three major documents in the works: >> >> 1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual >> >> This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the lower-left-hand corner of the LCD. >> >> For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, late next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind going through 60 pages of text, trying every link. >> >> In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST CONTROL" button that takes you directly to text most closely associated with the last operation performed. >> >> 2. K4 Owner's Manual >> >> Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's manual will be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and indexed .pdf file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4 users have been using a much smaller document that has many of the same illustrations. >> >> The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's manual, so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is blessed. >> >> 3. K4 Programmer's Reference >> >> An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're trying to expedite the public version of the reference so developers can take advantage of all of the new features. >> >> * * * >> >> If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly (though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than usual, so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you instantly). >> >> As usual, thanks for your patience. >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
I would like to see the use of change bars, highlighted text, or at least a
change summary in each new release of the online manual--at least after the early rapid changes settle down. 73 Eric WD6DBM On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 8:10 PM Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > All manuals will be kept updated to reflect the current software. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > On Sep 10, 2020, at 7:55 PM, Rick NK7I <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > Wayne, > > > > When the K4 firmware is updated, will that install app and package now > include an updated manual, installed on the K4 so it's always the most > current (or at least as current as the firmware)? I realize that > rewriting/updating the manual delays the release of the firmware. > > > > 73, stay safe, > > Rick NK7I > > > > > > On 9/10/2020 6:28 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > >> I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. > I'm the bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to > happen, but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that. > >> > >> There are three major documents in the works: > >> > >> 1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual > >> > >> This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external > monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the > lower-left-hand corner of the LCD. > >> > >> For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, > late next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind > going through 60 pages of text, trying every link. > >> > >> In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct > hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST > CONTROL" button that takes you directly to text most closely associated > with the last operation performed. > >> > >> 2. K4 Owner's Manual > >> > >> Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's > manual will be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and > indexed .pdf file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4 > users have been using a much smaller document that has many of the same > illustrations. > >> > >> The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's > manual, so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is > blessed. > >> > >> 3. K4 Programmer's Reference > >> > >> An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few > developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for > the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're > trying to expedite the public version of the reference so developers can > take advantage of all of the new features. > >> > >> * * * > >> > >> If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't > answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly > (though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than > usual, so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you instantly). > >> > >> As usual, thanks for your patience. > >> > >> 73, > >> Wayne > >> N6KR > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Wayne > On Sep 10, 2020, at 8:15 PM, Eric Norris <[hidden email]> wrote: > > I would like to see the use of change bars, highlighted text, or at least a change summary in each new release of the online manual--at least after the early rapid changes settle down. > > 73 Eric WD6DBM > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2020, 8:10 PM Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > All manuals will be kept updated to reflect the current software. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > On Sep 10, 2020, at 7:55 PM, Rick NK7I <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > Wayne, > > > > When the K4 firmware is updated, will that install app and package now include an updated manual, installed on the K4 so it's always the most current (or at least as current as the firmware)? I realize that rewriting/updating the manual delays the release of the firmware. > > > > 73, stay safe, > > Rick NK7I > > > > > > On 9/10/2020 6:28 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > >> I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. I'm the bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to happen, but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that. > >> > >> There are three major documents in the works: > >> > >> 1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual > >> > >> This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the lower-left-hand corner of the LCD. > >> > >> For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, late next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind going through 60 pages of text, trying every link. > >> > >> In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST CONTROL" button that takes you directly to text most closely associated with the last operation performed. > >> > >> 2. K4 Owner's Manual > >> > >> Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's manual will be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and indexed .pdf file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4 users have been using a much smaller document that has many of the same illustrations. > >> > >> The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's manual, so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is blessed. > >> > >> 3. K4 Programmer's Reference > >> > >> An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're trying to expedite the public version of the reference so developers can take advantage of all of the new features. > >> > >> * * * > >> > >> If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly (though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than usual, so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you instantly). > >> > >> As usual, thanks for your patience. > >> > >> 73, > >> Wayne > >> N6KR > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 2020-09-10 20:08:-0700, you wrote:
>All manuals will be kept updated to reflect the current software. > >Wayne >N6KR Will you preserve historical versions for those who don't have upgrades? I haven't looked on the Elecraft website to see if there are version-specific manuals for other products. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Does that mean there will be no hard bound manual? The last Ice storm we
had in W. KY we had no internet for 28 days at least at my house and others was longer. What am I going to take to the outhouse to read? LOL Ed.. AB4IQ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 8:28 PM To: Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]> Subject: [Elecraft] Update on K4 manuals I thought I'd post an update given the many questions on this topic. I'm the bottleneck on documentation, something that wasn't supposed to happen, but...stuff happened. No need to rehash that. There are three major documents in the works: 1. K4 Built-In Operating Manual This is an .html document normally viewed on the K4's LCD or external monitor. You get to it by tapping the button labeled "?" in the lower-left-hand corner of the LCD. For review purposes the doc can be viewed in any browser. And in fact, late next week we'll be looking for a few hardy volunteers who don't mind going through 60 pages of text, trying every link. In the radio context, the operating manual is supplemented by direct hyperlinks attached to every control and menu entry. There's a "LAST CONTROL" button that takes you directly to text most closely associated with the last operation performed. 2. K4 Owner's Manual Because of its multitude of full-color illustrations, the owner's manual will be 150-200 pages when finished. It'll be a fully searchable and indexed .pdf file, and two steps up from our earlier manuals. Early K4 users have been using a much smaller document that has many of the same illustrations. The built-in operating manual provides the framework for the owner's manual, so I expect rapid progress on the latter as soon as the former is blessed. 3. K4 Programmer's Reference An early draft of this doc has been in use by a our team and by a few developers who have been vetting it for us. Many of the apps available for the K3/K3S are already working with the K4 in emulation mode. But we're trying to expedite the public version of the reference so developers can take advantage of all of the new features. * * * If you have specific questions about the K4 documentation that I didn't answer above, feel free to post them to the list, or to email me directly (though I have a feeling my inbox is about to become more popular than usual, so I can't guarantee I'll get back to you instantly). As usual, thanks for your patience. 73, Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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> What am I going to take to the outhouse to read? Back is WV where I grew up it was known as "the catalog department," where the older (and less desirable ) catalogs served a function other than reading. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Ya got to watch for the staples!!
Grinning Paul KB9AVO On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 8:08 PM Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 9/11/2020 1:48 PM, Ed Pflueger wrote: > > What am I going to take to the outhouse to read? > > Back is WV where I grew up it was known as "the catalog department," > where the older (and less desirable ) catalogs served a function other > than reading. > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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