Using "bug" keyer with KX3 paddles

[Smokey]

I'm advised that there isn't a built in "bug" option for paddle
configuration and I want to stay "bug" op from home, mobile and portable
(KX3).

Has anyone configured the keyer to "bug" or used a PicoKeyer for similar?

Tks  K7SXN

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[Jim Sheldon]

I just plug my bug into the key jack on the side and configure the jack as a hand key in the menu.  I've found that the electronic bug emulations in keyers sound terrible on the air when I try to use them.  I can at least generate reasonably decent CW with my real bugs.

Jim - W0EB

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> On Aug 28, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Smokey <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I'm advised that there isn't a built in "bug" option for paddle
> configuration and I want to stay "bug" op from home, mobile and portable
> (KX3).
>
> Has anyone configured the keyer to "bug" or used a PicoKeyer for similar?
>
> Tks  K7SXN
>
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[Bill Frantz]

If Elecraft is considering making parts of their radios open
source, the keyer logic seems the best place to start. I have
seen more requests for tweaks to keyer logic than any other part
of the radio.

73 Bill AE6JV

On 8/28/14 at 4:11 PM, [hidden email] (Smokey) wrote:

>I'm advised that there isn't a built in "bug" option for paddle
>configuration and I want to stay "bug" op from home, mobile and portable
>(KX3).
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[Vic Rosenthal]

The most important feature of a bug isn't that the operator determines
the length of the dahs. It is the mechanical feedback that the operator
gets which (in the right hands) makes possible the rhythmic sending that
can be so pleasing. No keyer emulation can possibly provide that.

On 8/29/14 2:17 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
> I just plug my bug into the key jack on the side and configure the
> jack as a hand key in the menu.  I've found that the electronic bug
> emulations in keyers sound terrible on the air when I try to use
> them.  I can at least generate reasonably decent CW with my real
> bugs.
>
> Jim - W0EB

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Vic, K2VCO/4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
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[k6dgw]

True ... but, spacing has always been the issue.  It was solved way back
in 1949 -- check out October 1949 QST -- but for some reason, it never
caught on.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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On 8/28/2014 9:02 PM, Vic, K2VCO wrote:
> The most important feature of a bug isn't that the operator determines
> the length of the dahs. It is the mechanical feedback that the operator
> gets which (in the right hands) makes possible the rhythmic sending that
> can be so pleasing. No keyer emulation can possibly provide that.


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[Hank Garretson]

On Fri, Aug 29, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:

True ... but, spacing has always been the issue.  It was solved way back in
> 1949 -- check out October 1949 QST -- but for some reason, it never caught
> on.
>

Thanks Fred. Took me a few minutes to find it. My first search turned up
Silent Keys.

73,

Hank, W6SX
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[Al Gulseth-2]

I think trying to emulate the "feel" (mechanical feedback) of a bug with an
electronic keyer was the reason Vibroplex designed the Vibro-Keyer. I will
leave it to others to judge whether they achieved that goal, but somebody
must like them because they're still in production over 50 years later. I
have one but not being a "bug" guy I've found I prefer a more conventional
single-lever like the Kent SP-1 or the AME Bushwhacker. Again, no actual bug
experience here, but the old Nye Viking SSK-1-K has a "manual" mode which
sets the left paddle to key for however long it is pressed while the right
paddle will still send dits at the keyer's set speed. If they can accomplish
that it with '70s era CMOS technology it would seem like it would
be "do-able" in today's technology. But, there may be some subtle points that
I'm missing here, I've been known to achieve that before HI HI!!

Just my $0.02 worth....

73, Al
 
On Thu August 28 2014 11:02:56 pm Vic, K2VCO wrote:

> The most important feature of a bug isn't that the operator determines
> the length of the dahs. It is the mechanical feedback that the operator
> gets which (in the right hands) makes possible the rhythmic sending that
> can be so pleasing. No keyer emulation can possibly provide that.
>
> On 8/29/14 2:17 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote:
> > I just plug my bug into the key jack on the side and configure the
> > jack as a hand key in the menu.  I've found that the electronic bug
> > emulations in keyers sound terrible on the air when I try to use
> > them.  I can at least generate reasonably decent CW with my real
> > bugs.
> >
> > Jim - W0EB

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