I just had my K3 in for service and a checkup. I REALLY hope I can avoid sending it in again. The VFO B knob is completely dead. Turning it does not tune VFO B. Also tried the config screen...same thing.I suspect the encoder is bad but it showed no symptoms prior..otherwise I would have had it changed out when I sent it in.All other front panel functions appear to work.Any ideas?73,Gary K9GS
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If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B. If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft. If that is not the problem, contact [hidden email] for additional checks. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/26/2020 5:34 PM, Gary K9GS wrote: > I just had my K3 in for service and a checkup. I REALLY hope I can avoid sending it in again. The VFO B knob is completely dead. Turning it does not tune VFO B. Also tried the config screen...same thing.I suspect the encoder is bad but it showed no symptoms prior..otherwise I would have had it changed out when I sent it in.All other front panel functions appear to work.Any ideas?73,Gary K9GS ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders? Is there a document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS
-------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20 8:15 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Gary K9GS <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B. If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft. If that is not the problem, contact [hidden email] for additional checks.73,Don W3FPROn 1/26/2020 5:34 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:> I just had my K3 in for service and a checkup. I REALLY hope I can avoid sending it in again. The VFO B knob is completely dead. Turning it does not tune VFO B. Also tried the config screen...same thing.I suspect the encoder is bad but it showed no symptoms prior..otherwise I would have had it changed out when I sent it in.All other front panel functions appear to work.Any ideas?73,Gary K9GS ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Download the K3 Assembly Manual. I believe they just plug in.
Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jan 26, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders? Is there a document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS > -------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20 8:15 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Gary K9GS <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B. If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft. If that is not the problem, contact [hidden email] for additional checks.73,Don W3FPROn 1/26/2020 5:34 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:> I just had my K3 in for service and a checkup. I REALLY hope I can avoid sending it in again. The VFO B knob is completely dead. Turning it does not tune VFO B. Also tried the config screen...same thing.I suspect the encoder is bad but it showed no symptoms prior..otherwise I would have had it changed out when I sent it in.All other front panel functions appear to work.Any ideas?73,Gary K9GS > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
...and the first thing to check is that one of them hasn't come unplugged!
73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On 27/01/2020 6:38, Nr4c wrote: > Download the K3 Assembly Manual. I believe they just plug in. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Jan 26, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders? Is there a document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS >> -------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20 8:15 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Gary K9GS <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B. If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft. If that is not the problem, contact [hidden email] for additional checks.73,Don W3FPR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen. I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS
-------- Original message --------From: Victor Rosenthal <[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20 11:56 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [hidden email], Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead ...and the first thing to check is that one of them hasn't come unplugged!73,Victor, 4X6GPRehovot, IsraelFormerly K2VCOCWops no. 5http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/On 27/01/2020 6:38, Nr4c wrote: > Download the K3 Assembly Manual. I believe they just plug in. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Jan 26, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders? Is there a document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS >> -------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20 8:15 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Gary K9GS <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B. If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft. If that is not the problem, contact [hidden email] for additional checks.73,Don W3FPR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Why not call Tech support? They need to know that your radio was not
working out of the box. Let them help you. That is what they are there for. On 1/27/2020 8:59 AM, Gary K9GS wrote: > Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen. I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS > -------- Original message --------From: Victor Rosenthal <[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20 11:56 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [hidden email], Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead ...and the first thing to check is that one of them hasn't come unplugged!73,Victor, 4X6GPRehovot, IsraelFormerly K2VCOCWops no. 5http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/On 27/01/2020 6:38, Nr4c wrote: > Download the K3 Assembly Manual. I believe they just plug in. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Jan 26, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders? Is there a document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS >> -------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20 8:15 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Gary K9GS <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B. If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft. If that is not the problem, contact [hidden email] for additional checks.73,Don W3FPR > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Gary,
You have to remove the front panel assembly. The encoder must be removed from the rear of the Front Panel. It is not difficult, try it. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/27/2020 10:59 AM, Gary K9GS wrote: > Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen. I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Gary,
Before you order a new encoder, remove the front panel and swap the two encoders (they are the same), put the radio back together, and see what you observe when tuning both the A and B VFOs. Dick, K8ZTTT Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man. What is first, you ask? Landing, of course. On Monday, January 27, 2020, 11:23:23 AM MST, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote: Gary, You have to remove the front panel assembly. The encoder must be removed from the rear of the Front Panel. It is not difficult, try it. 73, Don W3FPR On 1/27/2020 10:59 AM, Gary K9GS wrote: > Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen. I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Add a tad of De-Oxit(sp) and you may be done! Careful, a little goes a long way.
ps: after applying the cleaner/lib, work the contacts in and out a few times to spread it and wipe the contacts. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jan 27, 2020, at 1:37 PM, RIchard Williams via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Gary, > Before you order a new encoder, remove the front panel and swap the two encoders (they are the same), put the radio back together, and see what you observe when tuning both the A and B VFOs. > > Dick, K8ZTTT > > > > > > > > Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man. What is first, you ask? Landing, of course. > > > > > > On Monday, January 27, 2020, 11:23:23 AM MST, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Gary, > > You have to remove the front panel assembly. The encoder must be > removed from the rear of the Front Panel. > > It is not difficult, try it. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > >> On 1/27/2020 10:59 AM, Gary K9GS wrote: >> Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen. I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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