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Gary K9GS-2
I just had my K3 in for service and a checkup.  I REALLY hope I can avoid sending it in again. The VFO B knob is completely dead.  Turning it does not tune VFO B.  Also tried the config screen...same thing.I suspect the encoder is bad but it showed no symptoms prior..otherwise I would have had it changed out when I sent it in.All other front panel functions appear to work.Any ideas?73,Gary K9GS
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Re: VFO B dead

Don Wilhelm
Gary,

If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel
assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B.  If the problem follows
the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft.  If that is not the
problem, contact [hidden email] for additional checks.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/26/2020 5:34 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:
> I just had my K3 in for service and a checkup.  I REALLY hope I can avoid sending it in again. The VFO B knob is completely dead.  Turning it does not tune VFO B.  Also tried the config screen...same thing.I suspect the encoder is bad but it showed no symptoms prior..otherwise I would have had it changed out when I sent it in.All other front panel functions appear to work.Any ideas?73,Gary K9GS
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Re: VFO B dead

Gary K9GS-2
Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders?  Is there a document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS
-------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20  8:15 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Gary K9GS <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B.  If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft.  If that is not the problem, contact [hidden email] for additional checks.73,Don W3FPROn 1/26/2020 5:34 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:> I just had my K3 in for service and a checkup.  I REALLY hope I can avoid sending it in again. The VFO B knob is completely dead.  Turning it does not tune VFO B.  Also tried the config screen...same thing.I suspect the encoder is bad but it showed no symptoms prior..otherwise I would have had it changed out when I sent it in.All other front panel functions appear to work.Any ideas?73,Gary K9GS
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Re: VFO B dead

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Download the K3 Assembly Manual. I believe they just plug in.

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> On Jan 26, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders?  Is there a document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS
> -------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20  8:15 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Gary K9GS <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B.  If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft.  If that is not the problem, contact [hidden email] for additional checks.73,Don W3FPROn 1/26/2020 5:34 PM, Gary K9GS wrote:> I just had my K3 in for service and a checkup.  I REALLY hope I can avoid sending it in again. The VFO B knob is completely dead.  Turning it does not tune VFO B.  Also tried the config screen...same thing.I suspect the encoder is bad but it showed no symptoms prior..otherwise I would have had it changed out when I sent it in.All other front panel functions appear to work.Any ideas?73,Gary K9GS
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Re: VFO B dead

Vic Rosenthal
...and the first thing to check is that one of them hasn't come unplugged!

73,
Victor, 4X6GP
Rehovot, Israel
Formerly K2VCO
CWops no. 5
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On 27/01/2020 6:38, Nr4c wrote:
 > Download the K3 Assembly Manual. I believe they just plug in.
 >
 > Sent from my iPhone
 > ...nr4c. bill
 >
 >
 >> On Jan 26, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> wrote:
 >>
 >> Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders?  Is there a
document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS

 >> -------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm
<[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20  8:15 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Gary
K9GS <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re:
[Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your
K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder
B.  If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from
Elecraft.  If that is not the problem, contact [hidden email] for
additional checks.73,Don W3FPR
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Re: VFO B dead

Gary K9GS-2
Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen. I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS
-------- Original message --------From: Victor Rosenthal <[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20  11:56 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: [hidden email], Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead ...and the first thing to check is that one of them hasn't come unplugged!73,Victor, 4X6GPRehovot, IsraelFormerly K2VCOCWops no. 5http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/On 27/01/2020 6:38, Nr4c wrote: > Download the K3 Assembly Manual. I believe they just plug in. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Jan 26, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders?  Is there a document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS >> -------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20  8:15 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Gary K9GS <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B.  If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft.  If that is not the problem, contact [hidden email] for additional checks.73,Don W3FPR
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Re: VFO B dead

w0mu
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Why not call Tech support?  They need to know that your radio was not
working out of the box.  Let them help you.  That is what they are there
for.

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> Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen. I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS
> -------- Original message --------From: Victor Rosenthal <[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20  11:56 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: [hidden email], Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead ...and the first thing to check is that one of them hasn't come unplugged!73,Victor, 4X6GPRehovot, IsraelFormerly K2VCOCWops no. 5http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/On 27/01/2020 6:38, Nr4c wrote: > Download the K3 Assembly Manual. I believe they just plug in. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > >> On Jan 26, 2020, at 10:50 PM, Gary K9GS <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hello Don,How difficult is it to replace the encoders?  Is there a document that describes the procedure?73,Gary K9GS >> -------- Original message --------From: Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> Date: 1/26/20  8:15 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Gary K9GS <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] VFO B dead Gary,If you are not afraid of disassembling your K3, remove the Front Panel assembly and swap the encoder A with encoder B.  If the problem follows the encoder, then order a new encoder from Elecraft.  If that is not the problem, contact [hidden email] for additional checks.73,Don W3FPR
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Re: VFO B dead

Don Wilhelm
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Gary,

You have to remove the front panel assembly.  The encoder must be
removed from the rear of the Front Panel.

It is not difficult, try it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/27/2020 10:59 AM, Gary K9GS wrote:
> Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen. I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS
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Re: VFO B dead

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Gary,
Before you order a new encoder, remove the front panel and swap the two encoders (they are the same), put the radio back together, and see what you observe when tuning both the A and B VFOs.

Dick, K8ZTTT

 





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    On Monday, January 27, 2020, 11:23:23 AM MST, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:  
 
 Gary,

You have to remove the front panel assembly.  The encoder must be
removed from the rear of the Front Panel.

It is not difficult, try it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/27/2020 10:59 AM, Gary K9GS wrote:
> Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen. I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS
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Re: VFO B dead

Nr4c
Add a tad of De-Oxit(sp) and you may be done!  Careful, a little goes a long way.

ps: after applying the cleaner/lib, work the contacts in and out a few times to spread it and wipe the contacts.

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> On Jan 27, 2020, at 1:37 PM, RIchard Williams via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Gary,
> Before you order a new encoder, remove the front panel and swap the two encoders (they are the same), put the radio back together, and see what you observe when tuning both the A and B VFOs.
>
> Dick, K8ZTTT
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> Flying is the second greatest thrill known to man.  What is first, you ask? Landing, of course.
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>    On Monday, January 27, 2020, 11:23:23 AM MST, Don Wilhelm <[hidden email]> wrote:  
>
> Gary,
>
> You have to remove the front panel assembly.  The encoder must be
> removed from the rear of the Front Panel.
>
> It is not difficult, try it.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>> On 1/27/2020 10:59 AM, Gary K9GS wrote:
>> Thank you Vic and others.It's been a long time since I assembled my K3. I reviewed the assembly documentation last night. I did not remember that the encoders plug into the PCBA. It looks like a pretty straightforward disassembly and reassembly.Vic asked if the encoder could have come unplugged, possibly in shipping when my K3 was back at Elecraft. I'm not sure how that could happen since the encoder is attached to the front panel with a nut. The nut and the VFO knob would have to both be missing for that to happen. I just wonder if since I have to take the whole front panel off to replace, should I just order replacements?Does anyone know if the encoders can be replaced if I remove the knob and nut without taking the front panel off?If I get some time this week I'll open up the K3 and take a look.73,Gary K9GS
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