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Gary Smith-2

Voice is clipped K3s

My 30 year old heil element finally bit
the dust. I bought an Elecraft MH4
hand-held mic and am trying to get it
adjusted.

I checked in with a local net and was told
there is a kind of clipping on my words,
like the ends of some word were being cut
off. Another report said it sounded more
like there was an artificial sound
in-between the syllables, that it wasn't
on the peaks but noted in the the troughs,
perhaps a bit of clicking in there.

I don't hear any difficulties with the
monitor, everything sounds like normal
words with no distortion. I'm not using
VOX and have no idea what I might try
looking at to resolve this.

As to the equalizing of the MH4, is there
a set of values with the 8 bands to give
it more of a character of a Heil HC4
element or something well suited for DX?

Any suggestions on the clipping & Mic TX
EQ & what I might try doing to resolve
this?

73,

Gary
KA1J
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: Voice is clipped K3s

I would look closely at the ALC level and the CMP level to see that the
new mike, which has more output, is not driving things into
saturation.    Likewise, as Jim, K9YC says, use the TX EQ to get rid of
some of the low end, thus not to suck up power which is not heard on the
other end.    And check to see that the mike is not over driving the
input stage. If your MIC gain is less than about 20 and the menu is
set for higher gain, then set the gain to a lower value per the menu and
adjust the MIC gain for a higher value to attain correct ALC action of 5
to 7 bars.    See page 22 and 30 in the manual.

These radios really sound GREAT when all is adjusted correctly.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 10/10/2018 1:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote:

> My 30 year old heil element finally bit
> the dust. I bought an Elecraft MH4
> hand-held mic and am trying to get it
> adjusted.
>
> I checked in with a local net and was told
> there is a kind of clipping on my words,
> like the ends of some word were being cut
> off. Another report said it sounded more
> like there was an artificial sound
> in-between the syllables, that it wasn't
> on the peaks but noted in the the troughs,
> perhaps a bit of clicking in there.
>
> I don't hear any difficulties with the
> monitor, everything sounds like normal
> words with no distortion. I'm not using
> VOX and have no idea what I might try
> looking at to resolve this.
>
> As to the equalizing of the MH4, is there
> a set of values with the 8 bands to give
> it more of a character of a Heil HC4
> element or something well suited for DX?
>
> Any suggestions on the clipping & Mic TX
> EQ & what I might try doing to resolve
> this?
>
> 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
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Don Wilhelm

Re: Voice is clipped K3s

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Gary,

If you just plugged in the MH4 and turned on bias, then I suggest that
may be the cause of the problem.
Assuming you had the K3 set for the low output Heil microphone, you
should change the MIC SEL menu to FP.L bias. If you have MIC SEL still
set for FP.H, you may be overdriving the mic preamp. The MH2 has a high
output level, so you need only low gain in the K3.

Then initially set the compression to 0 and set the MIC GAIN to produce
5 to 7 bars on the ALC meter while speaking into the microphone in a
normal voice.

Once that is done, set the compression to a moderate level of your choice.

As Bob K4TAX has pointed out and K9YC has long advocated, set the lower
2 bands of TX EQ to the lowest levels and set the 3rd band down a bit as
well - that will increase your "talk power" while not wasting power
trying to transmit those low frequencies which are not needed for
intelligibility. If you are into ESSB, you may differ, but ham radio is
not HI-FI in my opinion, it is about communications effectiveness.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 10/10/2018 2:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote:

Wes Stewart-2

Re: Voice is clipped K3s

And if all of this fails look for a blown HPA.

Wes N7WS

On 10/10/2018 8:29 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Gary,
>
> If you just plugged in the MH4 and turned on bias, then I suggest that may be
> the cause of the problem.
> Assuming you had the K3 set for the low output Heil microphone, you should
> change the MIC SEL menu to FP.L bias. If you have MIC SEL still set for FP.H,
> you may be overdriving the mic preamp. The MH2 has a high output level, so you
> need only low gain in the K3.
>
> Then initially set the compression to 0 and set the MIC GAIN to produce 5 to 7
> bars on the ALC meter while speaking into the microphone in a normal voice.
>
> Once that is done, set the compression to a moderate level of your choice.
>
> As Bob K4TAX has pointed out and K9YC has long advocated, set the lower 2
> bands of TX EQ to the lowest levels and set the 3rd band down a bit as well -
> that will increase your "talk power" while not wasting power trying to
> transmit those low frequencies which are not needed for intelligibility. If
> you are into ESSB, you may differ, but ham radio is not HI-FI in my opinion,
> it is about communications effectiveness.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 10/10/2018 2:10 AM, Gary Smith wrote:
>> My 30 year old heil element finally bit
>> the dust. I bought an Elecraft MH4
>> hand-held mic and am trying to get it
>> adjusted.
>>
>> I checked in with a local net and was told
>> there is a kind of clipping on my words,
>> like the ends of some word were being cut
>> off. Another report said it sounded more
>> like there was an artificial sound
>> in-between the syllables, that it wasn't
>> on the peaks but noted in the the troughs,
>> perhaps a bit of clicking in there.
>>
>> I don't hear any difficulties with the
>> monitor, everything sounds like normal
>> words with no distortion. I'm not using
>> VOX and have no idea what I might try
>> looking at to resolve this.
>>
>> As to the equalizing of the MH4, is there
>> a set of values with the 8 bands to give
>> it more of a character of a Heil HC4
>> element or something well suited for DX?
>>
>> Any suggestions on the clipping & Mic TX
>> EQ & what I might try doing to resolve
>> this?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Gary
>> KA1J
>> ______________________________________________________________

Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Voice is clipped K3s

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm

If one has a flat "wide band" mic (electret) the typical TX EQ settings
needed to emulate the Heil HC4 (DX)/HC5 elements, a couple classic
"communications" mics and a typical dynamic "vocal" mic (SM58) are:

-- SHURE --
HC4 HC5 D-104 444 SM58
50 -16 -16 -16 -16 -8
100 -16 -16 -10 -16 -2
200 -16 -3 -4 -7 0
400 -4 -2 -3 -2 -1
800 -0 -2 -1 0 -1
1600 +5 +2 +3 +3 +0
2400 +10 +5 +9 +7 +1
3200 +10 +6 +13 +12 +4

Thanks to: <https://owenduffy.net/audio/legend/index.htm> for the
HC4/HC5/D-104/444 response curves. The SM58 data comes from
Shure's data sheet.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2018-10-10 11:29 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
> As Bob K4TAX has pointed out and K9YC has long advocated, set the lower
> 2 bands of TX EQ to the lowest levels and set the 3rd band down a bit as
> well - that will increase your "talk power" while not wasting power
> trying to transmit those low frequencies which are not needed for
> intelligibility. If you are into ESSB, you may differ, but ham radio is
> not HI-FI in my opinion, it is about communications effectiveness.
>

The typical
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Bob McGraw - K4TAX

Re: Voice is clipped K3s

For my SM58 and my K3S I use the following:

50 Hz    -16

100 Hz -16

200 Hz - 9

400 Hz    0

800 Hz     0

1600 Hz 0

2400 Hz +3

3200Hz +6

The Behringer XM8500 dynamic mike gives identical performance and it
costs only $20.    Heard one and just had to try it. I can swap between
the SM58 and the XM8500 and folks that I rag chew with on a regular
basis can't tell the difference.   Even the machining pattern on the
base is the same on both mikes.   And in looking a the elements, they
too appear to be the same.

73

Bob, K4TAX

On 10/10/2018 1:07 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

>
> If one has a flat "wide band" mic (electret) the typical TX EQ settings
> needed to emulate the Heil HC4 (DX)/HC5 elements, a couple classic
> "communications" mics and a typical dynamic "vocal" mic (SM58) are:
>
>                                   -- SHURE --
>            HC4     HC5    D-104   444    SM58
>    50      -16     -16     -16    -16      -8
> 100      -16     -16     -10    -16      -2
> 200      -16      -3      -4     -7       0
> 400       -4      -2      -3     -2      -1
> 800       -0      -2      -1      0      -1
> 1600       +5      +2      +3     +3      +0
> 2400      +10      +5      +9     +7      +1
> 3200      +10      +6     +13    +12      +4
>
> Thanks to: <https://owenduffy.net/audio/legend/index.htm> for the
> HC4/HC5/D-104/444 response curves.   The SM58 data comes from
> Shure's data sheet.
>
> 73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 2018-10-10 11:29 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>
>> As Bob K4TAX has pointed out and K9YC has long advocated, set the
>> lower 2 bands of TX EQ to the lowest levels and set the 3rd band down
>> a bit as well - that will increase your "talk power" while not
>> wasting power trying to transmit those low frequencies which are not
>> needed for intelligibility. If you are into ESSB, you may differ,
>> but ham radio is not HI-FI in my opinion, it is about communications
>> effectiveness.
>>
>
> The typical
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: Voice is clipped K3s

The SM58 is representative of a wide variety of the hand-held
"vocal" mics by many manufacturers. It would not surprise me
if they didn't use a common element - probably manufactured
off shore - which means the read difference would be in mounting
and the wind screen which would effect handling/wind noise and
not particularly impact the response.

> For my SM58 and my K3S I use the following:
>
> 50 Hz -16
> 100 Hz -16
> 200 Hz - 9
> 400 Hz 0
> 800 Hz 0
> 1600 Hz 0
> 2400 Hz +3
> 3200Hz +6

For my voice, I like to set 800 Hz at -10 dB (not much energy
in that band so I reduce the room noise) and then +3/+5/+6 at
1600/2400/3200 (a smooth 3 dB/octave preemphasis). For "DX",
the +3/+5/+6 can be pushed to +5/+9/+10 (5 dB/octave) to
emulate the HC4.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 2018-10-10 3:20 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:

> For my SM58 and my K3S I use the following:
>
> 50 Hz    -16
>
> 100 Hz -16
>
> 200 Hz - 9
>
> 400 Hz    0
>
> 800 Hz     0
>
> 1600 Hz 0
>
> 2400 Hz +3
>
> 3200Hz +6
>
> The Behringer XM8500 dynamic mike gives identical performance and it
> costs only $20.    Heard one and just had to try it. I can swap between
> the SM58 and the XM8500 and folks that I rag chew with on a regular
> basis can't tell the difference.   Even the machining pattern on the
> base is the same on both mikes.   And in looking a the elements, they
> too appear to be the same.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 10/10/2018 1:07 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>
>> If one has a flat "wide band" mic (electret) the typical TX EQ settings
>> needed to emulate the Heil HC4 (DX)/HC5 elements, a couple classic
>> "communications" mics and a typical dynamic "vocal" mic (SM58) are:
>>
>>                                   -- SHURE --
>>            HC4     HC5    D-104   444    SM58
>>    50      -16     -16     -16    -16      -8
>> 100      -16     -16     -10    -16      -2
>> 200      -16      -3      -4     -7       0
>> 400       -4      -2      -3     -2      -1
>> 800       -0      -2      -1      0      -1
>> 1600       +5      +2      +3     +3      +0
>> 2400      +10      +5      +9     +7      +1
>> 3200      +10      +6     +13    +12      +4
>>
>> Thanks to: <https://owenduffy.net/audio/legend/index.htm> for the
>> HC4/HC5/D-104/444 response curves.   The SM58 data comes from
>> Shure's data sheet.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>>    ... Joe, W4TV
>>
>>
>> On 2018-10-10 11:29 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>>>
>>> As Bob K4TAX has pointed out and K9YC has long advocated, set the
>>> lower 2 bands of TX EQ to the lowest levels and set the 3rd band down
>>> a bit as well - that will increase your "talk power" while not
>>> wasting power trying to transmit those low frequencies which are not
>>> needed for intelligibility. If you are into ESSB, you may differ,
>>> but ham radio is not HI-FI in my opinion, it is about communications
>>> effectiveness.
>>>
>>
>> The typical

Bill Steffey NY9H

Re: Voice is clipped K3s

Shure manufactures ( or at least did when I repped them) in Mexico at
their plant.
They also were maintaining capabilities of manufacturing in the states,,,
used to be Evanston.. now has plant in Wheeling, IL.
Those old 444 and 450 paging mics were always emphasizing the 2.5 - 3
k region..

At 03:56 PM 10/10/2018, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>The SM58 is representative of a wide variety of the hand-held
>"vocal" mics by many manufacturers. It would not surprise me if
>they didn't use a common element - probably manufactured off shore -
>which means the read difference would be in mounting and the wind

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Jim Brown-10

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First, I don't think any Heil mic ought to be taken as a standard. I
view Heil as most audio professionals view Bose -- "better sound through
advertising."

Second, the SM58 is a single-D cardioid, and Shure's published data is
for the mic at considerable distance from the sound source. When used
close to a sound source, there is a LOT of bass boost as a result of
proximity effect, so the "close-talked" response requires a lot more
low-cut EQ.

Third, My standard recommended starting point for TXEQ for ALL mics is
max cut of the three lowest bands, 6dB cut of the 4th (400 Hz) band.
Some mics, including the Shure 444 and some Heil mics have an
intentional boost around 3 kHz to compensate for the rolloff of SSB
transmitting filters, and I view this as a GOOD thing. For mics that
lack this boost, or have have the boost at a much higher frequency (the
SM58 has a boost around 8 kHz), I recommend a boost of 3-6 dB in the top
two bands. All other bands should be set "flat" (no boost, no cut).

After making these settings, adjust COMP to see about an indicated 10 dB
of gain reduction on voice peaks, then get signal reports from a good
listener. These settings are for maximum talk power, NOT for high
futility, and if done right, will multiply your effective power by about
20 (13 dB). That will make you easier to copy on the other end, which,
for me, also makes casual QSOs and ragchews easier on the ears when
you're not booming in on the other end.

73, Jim K9YC

On 10/10/2018 11:07 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

Jim Brown-10

Re: Voice is clipped K3s

In reply to this post by Joe Subich, W4TV-4

On 10/10/2018 1:47 PM, bill steffey wrote:
> Shure manufactures ( or at least did when I repped them) in Mexico at
> their plant. They also were maintaining capabilities of manufacturing
> in the states,,,
> used to be Evanston.. now has plant in Wheeling, IL.

YES. This is generally true of REAL microphone companies, like
ElectroVoice, Sennheiser, AKG, Neumann, and Beyer. Last I heard, EV's
plant was in TN. Sennheiser, AKG, Neumann, and Beyer are German
companies, and I suspect their mics are still manufactured there.

On 10/10/2018 12:56 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> It would not surprise me
> if they didn't use a common element - probably manufactured
> off shore - which means the read difference would be in mounting
> and the wind screen which would effect handling/wind noise and
> not particularly impact the response.

As a long time member of the AES Standards Committee Working Group on
Microphones, I know engineers from most REAL mic mfrs, and I've heard
horror stories of counterfeiting of their products, mostly from China.
They often LOOK absolutely identical, but they are NOT the same and
don't perform the same.

The same is true of connectors -- the common problems with the
counterfeit parts are that they don't mate solidly, dielectrics may melt
when you try to solder them, they may fall apart, they have dissimilar
metals issues.

Companies like Heil and Behringer ARE buying cheap generic capsules and
putting them in fancy housings. Big companies like Yamaha, Panasonic,
and Sony probably DO mfr their own mic capsules and headphones.

73, Jim K9YC

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check MENU CONFIG TX GATE in the tech menu if set to high it will do that

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Gary Smith-2

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Folks,

Thank you for all the replies regarding
the clipping and a thank you for the
replies regarding proper setting for the
Mic. That's just what I was looking for.

Unfortunately my transmit issues remain.
I'm beginning to think there is perhaps
something wrong with the radio. I was on
40M today, checking out the results on my
grounding efforts to see if that made a
difference. Many came on to tell me I
indeed still have a problem. One person
said the audio effect gave them
"goosebumps" so there's something definite
going on.

One common thread was my signal seems to
be cutting in & out. Although I don't hear
it in the headphones, it must be rendered
in a later stage. A few said it sounded
like RFI. I'm stumped... However, when
following Don's suggestions on adjusting
the ALC level and then compression I
noticed something unusual & I think, not
right.

When I have the headset on, monitor on a
high volume setting & I key the mic, I
hear a very clear and loud low
reproduction of the ambient noise in the
room, almost like a low frequency hearing
aid. The moment I adjust either the mic or
compression, that character completely
stops and the background sound in the
headphones becomes silent. It is exactly
to me, like hearing a rumbling background
noise with Bose QC-15 headsets and then
flipping the power on and hearing the
background drop out to be replaced with
ambient silence.

I've tried this multiple times and it is
always the same, it's as if turning
compression or MIC engages some noise
cancelling from the K3s. My voice changes
from somewhat bassy albeit clear, effect
like talking close into a condenser mic,
to the brighter, non bassy settings I have
adjusted the TX EQ to be.

Does this sound familiar? If so, what
might I look at?

Thanks again,

Gary
KA1J
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Gary Smith-2

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Thanks, it's set at 00.

73,

Gary
KA1J

> check MENU CONFIG TX GATE in the tech menu if set to high it will
> do that
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If you are using the MH4 Elecraft mic plugged into the front panel. Set mic to “FpL -bias”. Set EQ to flat. Set Cmp to zero and adjust micgain for 4-5 bars ALC. Now adjust Cmp to provide about 10dB and get on the air and get assistance from someone who knows your voice.

If you’re having intermittent issues check ALL connections. If you have Monitor on keep it low or it will get into the mic and give you grief.

Better, use another radio receiver to listen to yourself transmitting into a dummy load. Even on of the many SDR Dongle type will work great.

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> On Oct 10, 2018, at 9:45 PM, Gary Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Thanks, it's set at 00.
>
> 73,
>
> Gary
> KA1J
>
>> check MENU CONFIG TX GATE in the tech menu if set to high it will
>> do that
>>
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Gary Smith-2

Re: Voice is clipped K3s

Your suggestion of my listening to me
transmitting into a dummy on another radio
was a good idea. However, I pulled my
backup K3 out of its box & replaced the
K3s with it. It's Serial #202 but it is
updated to the final K3 specs and has most
of the K3s upgrades so I just switched one
for the other. I matched the config from
the K3s to the K3 so they are set up the
same.

Zero issues with the K3, all reports say
the audio is excellent with no hint of
RFI. Seems like I have a problem with the
K3s. Unfortunate in that it was just
returned from repair this last August but
things happen.

Thank you all for the replies, great ideas
and I set the TX EQ to the settings Joe,
W4TV, provided for this mic. The audio
reports have been excellent so that helped
greatly.

I'll get a RMA and send it out tomorrow.

Thanks & 73,

Gary
KA1J

> If you are using the MH4 Elecraft mic plugged into the front panel.
> Set mic to "FpL -bias". Set EQ to flat. Set Cmp to zero and adjust
> micgain for 4-5 bars ALC. Now adjust Cmp to provide about 10dB and
> get on the air and get assistance from someone who knows your voice.
>
> If you´re having intermittent issues check ALL connections. If you
> have Monitor on keep it low or it will get into the mic and give you
> grief.
>
> Better, use another radio receiver to listen to yourself transmitting
> into a dummy load. Even on of the many SDR Dongle type will work
> great.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> > On Oct 10, 2018, at 9:45 PM, Gary Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, it's set at 00.
> >
> > 73,
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> > Gary
> > KA1J
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> >> check MENU CONFIG TX GATE in the tech menu if set to high it
> >> will do that
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> >> Ed KD7PY
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