What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?
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What Two Bands would you pick for a K1?
My first thoughts are 40 and 15, but I'm curious as to what others would pick. Thank you. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Harry Yingst via Elecraft writes:
> What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? > My first thoughts are 40 and 15, but I'm curious as to what others would pick. It all depends upon your operating preferences, times to get on the air, and for the next few years in the solar doldrums. 20M should be your daytime band; I hear little activity on 15M lately. 20M is pretty much dead by sundown these days. 15M is my favorite band during the active sun, but we have a few years for those days to come. 40M or 80M should be your night time bands, though 40M is also quite useful daytime and lots of activities, such as special events, contests, SOTA and SKCC stations, etc. do use daytime 40M quite a bit. 80M has spurts of good activity at night, but virtually nothing daytime except nearby ground wave. Therefore, if your time on the air is limited to mostly evenings, then 80M and 40M would be the most useful. If you plan on some daytime QSOs or daytime on weekends, I'd pick 20M and 40M. That would also be a good combo if you plan on any weekend work in the field such as the FYBO, QRPTTF, Field Day, and the like, or most contests in general. Your mileage may differ, and others may feel differently. GL es 72, Paul NA5N ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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This is an impossible question to answer because there are SO many variables
that are based strictly on personal preferences. Many more on physical parameters (location, antenna availability, etc.) and even some on time (of day or, as in solar cycle ). As a start, make a list of all the possibilities or variables you can think of and you'll see that no one can make that decision for you. Some things you'll just have to decide for yourself. 73, Charlie k3ICH > What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? > My first thoughts are 40 and 15, but I'm curious as to what others would pick. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I agree with Paul. I have a K1-4 (40-30-20-15) I bought in about 2005. Our current position in the solar cycle says 20M for daytime and either 30 or 40 for nighttime. The choice between 30 and 40 would be personal. I've had better luck on 30m with QRP than on 40m over the years. I have never made a contact on 15 with the K1. It's just too spotty to depend on QRP there. When it's open, it's really open, but it's the luck of the draw.
20M has always been my favorite band. These days weekday CW activity is kind of sparse. I have almost NO luck at the 20M QRP freq, but I can nearly always scare up a contact below 14.025 if I want. Eric KE6US On 1/24/2017 9:15 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? My first thoughts are 40 and 15, but I'm curious as to what others would pick. Thank you. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> . ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On Wed,1/25/2017 10:46 AM, Eric J wrote:
> NO luck at the 20M QRP freq, but I can nearly always scare up a contact below 14.025 if I want. I do a lot of QRP, especially in DX contests. I wouldn't dream of hanging out on "a QRP frequency," and I never sign /QRP. If I get into a chat, I will say that I'm running 5W. I'll reinforce the recommendation of 30M as a great band. The 200W power limit and no voice modes is a major advantage for those with limited stations or running QRP, antennas are of more reasonable size, and propagation is often quite good. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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> What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? > My first thoughts are 40 and 15, There are only six bands that Elecraft supports with KFL1-2 band parts: 80m, 40m, 30m, 20m, 17m, 15m. Some have customized their own boards for other bands, notably 160m and 10m. When I built a K1 in 2000, only two-band filter boardz were available. I built two filter boards, one for 40m/20m, and one for 30m/15m. I used those until the KFL1-4 four-band board for all four of those bands was available. I converted the 40m/20m KFL1-2 to 80m/17m. Without any doubt or question, if I were limited to one two-band board, 40m/20m would easily be my choice even as we head further into a long (perhaps very long) period of minimal solar activity. Mike / KK5F ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I have a K1 built sometime ago with filter boards for all of the bands. The 4-band is 15,20,30,40 A 2-band for 80,17; another for 12,10. 75% of the time mine is used on 20M, the balance split between 30 and 40.
IMHO one of the bands should be 20M. As the sun declines toward minimum, anything shorter isn't likely to be too useful. My pick for the second band would be 30M, because of the DX opportunities, GL 72, Curt KB5JO ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I agree with 40 and 30. Much better luck having done QRP portable for
years. 73, Bill K9YEQ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric J Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 12:46 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? I agree with Paul. I have a K1-4 (40-30-20-15) I bought in about 2005. Our current position in the solar cycle says 20M for daytime and either 30 or 40 for nighttime. The choice between 30 and 40 would be personal. I've had better luck on 30m with QRP than on 40m over the years. I have never made a contact on 15 with the K1. It's just too spotty to depend on QRP there. When it's open, it's really open, but it's the luck of the draw. 20M has always been my favorite band. These days weekday CW activity is kind of sparse. I have almost NO luck at the 20M QRP freq, but I can nearly always scare up a contact below 14.025 if I want. Eric KE6US On 1/24/2017 9:15 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? My first thoughts are 40 and 15, but I'm curious as to what others would pick. Thank you. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> . ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thanks all who responded
It looks like I should listen fro a bit and see what bands I hear the most on 40 and 20 look to be in the lead ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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For me I have a K1 with bands 20 and 40. Both work well QRP at home on the main antennas and QRP portable with a simple wire antenna (T2 and random wire/ short counterpoise)
I really like 30m but there's more people on 40m so more chance of getting a reply there over 30. I'd be torn between 30 and 40 if I was to chose again. If I could only have one lower cost radio a K1 with 30/40 would be my choice. Cameron - AF7DK ________________________________ From: Elecraft <[hidden email]> on behalf of Bill Johnson <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 6:16 PM To: 'Eric J'; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? I agree with 40 and 30. Much better luck having done QRP portable for years. 73, Bill K9YEQ -----Original Message----- From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric J Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2017 12:46 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? I agree with Paul. I have a K1-4 (40-30-20-15) I bought in about 2005. Our current position in the solar cycle says 20M for daytime and either 30 or 40 for nighttime. The choice between 30 and 40 would be personal. I've had better luck on 30m with QRP than on 40m over the years. I have never made a contact on 15 with the K1. It's just too spotty to depend on QRP there. When it's open, it's really open, but it's the luck of the draw. 20M has always been my favorite band. These days weekday CW activity is kind of sparse. I have almost NO luck at the 20M QRP freq, but I can nearly always scare up a contact below 14.025 if I want. Eric KE6US On 1/24/2017 9:15 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote: What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? My first thoughts are 40 and 15, but I'm curious as to what others would pick. Thank you. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> . ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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At this point in the solar cycle, we are already seeing the MUF drop below both 40 and 80 meters at night. Of course that is in the winter time,
and things should get a bit better as we get closer to summer. Still, for the near future the higher bands won’t be very effective. During the (rather lengthy) low parts of the last cycle the MUF dropped below 80 meters for long periods of time at night, and even 20m wasn’t very effective during the day. I would consider some combination that includes 80 meters if you plan on operating at night. It is the higher band that would give me trouble deciding, with 40, 30 and even 20m providing interesting possibilities. I kind of like K9YC’s suggestion of 30 meters where CW shines so well. In any case, make a decision and enjoy it. Operating CW on the bands is always a lot of fun. - Jack, W6FB > On Jan 25, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Thanks all who responded > It looks like I should listen fro a bit and see what bands I hear the most on > > 40 and 20 look to be in the lead > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Thank you
I've built a K2 in the past so I figured a K1 would be a fun rig to build (for me much of the fun is in building). 40 is typically good here but I also see less on 30. The bright side is that I can always buy another filter board. -------- Original message -------- From: HankP <[hidden email]> Date: 2017-01-25 10:31 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Harry Yingst <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? p { margin: 0; }Thanks all who responded It looks like I should listen fro a bit and see what bands I hear the most on 40 and 20 look to be in the lead Hi Harry - I had lost your original message - and I had a draft I was going to send to you - but couldnot find your original message . So here is a paste of it . FWIW- and I had concluded exactly your first line . The guy who just was talking about 80 and MUF has some thoughts dunno - here in Phoenix - ther are quite a few W6 guys to chew the fat with inthe winter - but summers are just no fun.. Guess I live in a 30 meter hole - Most times I find nothing on 30 other than special event or DXpedition stations and the W0ERE 2 watt beacon . Once in a while a random rag chew . Yes almost always some digital but we are talking CW I think . Then big pileups on a DX station and it all goes away when the DX quits . Contrast that to 40 Cw and virtually always something to work. So I would suggest if you have a receiver - listen to 30 and 40 and 20 at the times you will mostly operate and see whats best in your area. RE the 200 watts ???? On the P3 I have watched guys turn on their amps - once I sent "turn off ur amp" and got a HI HI back . Just saying --- 73 Hank K7HP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Hmmmmm 80 & 40 ......
-------- Original message -------- From: Jack Brindle <[hidden email]> Date: 2017-01-25 10:14 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Harry Yingst <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? At this point in the solar cycle, we are already seeing the MUF drop below both 40 and 80 meters at night. Of course that is in the winter time, and things should get a bit better as we get closer to summer. Still, for the near future the higher bands won’t be very effective. During the (rather lengthy) low parts of the last cycle the MUF dropped below 80 meters for long periods of time at night, and even 20m wasn’t very effective during the day. I would consider some combination that includes 80 meters if you plan on operating at night. It is the higher band that would give me trouble deciding, with 40, 30 and even 20m providing interesting possibilities. I kind of like K9YC’s suggestion of 30 meters where CW shines so well. In any case, make a decision and enjoy it. Operating CW on the bands is always a lot of fun. - Jack, W6FB > On Jan 25, 2017, at 6:50 PM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Thanks all who responded > It looks like I should listen fro a bit and see what bands I hear the most on > > 40 and 20 look to be in the lead > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I built my K1 when it was still possible to get the 4-band module which for me, covers 40, 30, 20 & 15. As I would like to have 80m also to work my Norwegian hams, I built a 2-band board with 80 & 20. 20m is a band that's normally always open some part of the day and a band you can use for dx, even qrp. I would suggest 20m as one of the bands and 80, 40 or 30 for the other one. 40m is a very crowdy band which makes it difficult for qrp.
73 de Hal/LA4XX On 17-01-25 21:10, Mike Morrow <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > What Two Bands would you pick for a K1? > > My first thoughts are 40 and 15, > > There are only six bands that Elecraft supports with KFL1-2 band parts: 80m, 40m, 30m, 20m, 17m, 15m. Some have customized their own boards for other bands, notably 160m and 10m. > > When I built a K1 in 2000, only two-band filter boardz were available. I built two filter boards, one for 40m/20m, and one for 30m/15m. I used those until the KFL1-4 four-band board for all four of those bands was available. I converted the 40m/20m KFL1-2 to 80m/17m. > > Without any doubt or question, if I were limited to one two-band board, 40m/20m would easily be my choice even as we head further into a long (perhaps very long) period of minimal solar activity. > > Mike / KK5F > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] <[hidden email]> > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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