What became of the Elecraft’s KPA1500 and KPA 800
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What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage?
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YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much
looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA-XXXX than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till the KPAs are released. Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of DaveVK Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:21 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4528292.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2673 - Release Date: 02/07/10 01:22:00 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see THP, etc.) To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. IMHO Doug, W6JD K2 #1626 K3 #23 ----- Original Message ----- From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 8:08:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA-XXXX than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till the KPAs are released. Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of DaveVK Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:21 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4528292.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2673 - Release Date: 02/07/10 01:22:00 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
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As far as I know, no one makes a full 1500 watt output, continuous-duty, no
time limit, "brick on the key" amplifier that covers 160-6 meters with full QSK and "instant on". It would be nice to have a built in precision wattmeter, too. I'm sure some would also like an auto-tuner, antenna switch w/ memories, dummy load, monitor scope...etc. It could be "optioned" just like the K3 so cost could be adjusted to the budget of the buyer... 73 de Greg-N4CC -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:13 PM To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see THP, etc.) To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. IMHO Doug, W6JD K2 #1626 K3 #23 ----- Original Message ----- From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 8:08:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA-XXXX than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till the KPAs are released. Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of DaveVK Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:21 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4528292.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2673 - Release Date: 02/07/10 01:22:00 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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--- On Sun, 2/7/10, Greg <[hidden email]> wrote: From: Greg <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 To: [hidden email] Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 2:33 PM As far as I know, no one makes a full 1500 watt output, continuous-duty, no time limit, "brick on the key" amplifier that covers 160-6 meters with full QSK and "instant on". It would be nice to have a built in precision wattmeter, too. I'm sure some would also like an auto-tuner, antenna switch w/ memories, dummy load, monitor scope...etc. It could be "optioned" just like the K3 so cost could be adjusted to the budget of the buyer... As long as your budget was $10,000. l ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
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<<<<<<<< As long as your budget was $10,000. >>>>>>>>>
:>) I think I will continue to turn bandswitch, roller inductor and air-cap knobs, and use the other $9000 for other stuff. |
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"As far as I know, no one makes a full 1500 watt output, continuous-duty, no
time limit, "brick on the key" amplifier that covers 160-6 meters with full QSK and "instant on". It would be nice to have a built in precision wattmeter, too." I mostly operate barefoot, but when I need an amp I find that first 500-600 watts makes a big difference. So I'd like a 500-600 watt amp, full QSK, 160-6 meters with auto band switching when connected to the K3. Use a separate switching power supply to keep everything lightweight so it is easy to take places with you. And keep the autotuner and precision power meter separate as well. Phil - AD5X ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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That just ain't gonna happen with a solid state amp.
Spend $5K for an Alpha with a pair of 4CX1000A's which will do "brick on the key" all day and night or the same $5K on an amp that can't (THP 2.5K)? I would encourage Elecraft to drop the whole idea unless they can build and sell an "Alpha Class" amp for less. Greg wrote: > As far as I know, no one makes a full 1500 watt output, continuous-duty, no > time limit, "brick on the key" amplifier that covers 160-6 meters with full > QSK and "instant on". It would be nice to have a built in precision > wattmeter, too. > > I'm sure some would also like an auto-tuner, antenna switch w/ memories, > dummy load, monitor scope...etc. It could be "optioned" just like the K3 so > cost could be adjusted to the budget of the buyer... > > 73 de Greg-N4CC > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of [hidden email] > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:13 PM > To: [hidden email] > Cc: [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 > > > > Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see > THP, etc.) > > To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be > highly > > innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. > > > > IMHO > > > > Doug, W6JD > > K2 #1626 > > K3 #23 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [hidden email] > To: [hidden email] > Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 8:08:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 > > YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much > looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even > get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. > > IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys > they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA-XXXX than > I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very > nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost > 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. > > Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell > us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till > > the KPAs are released. > > Stan Rife > W5EWA > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of DaveVK > Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:21 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 > > > What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want > one' stage? > -- R. Kevin Stover ACØH ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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To be inovative, they could make it a full kit, or "some assembly required" like the K3. I think a full kit would be a little daunting for most of us, so the 2nd option would be better. It/they have a lot of wiz-bang automatic control and proably a lot of surface mount circuitry.
It has a built in tuner and I thought that was pretty inovative. There aren't too many amps on the market with built in tuners. AND, it would be Elecraft quality and would match the other Elecraft equipment. Stan Rife W5EWA From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see THP, etc.) To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. IMHO Doug, W6JD K2 #1626 K3 #23 ----- Original Message ----- From: [hidden email] YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA-XXXX than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till the KPAs are released. Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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That is exactly what they designed Greg. It didn't have scope
capability, and I am not sure about the dummy load. Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Greg As far as I know, no one makes a full 1500 watt output, continuous-duty, no time limit, "brick on the key" amplifier that covers 160-6 meters with full QSK and "instant on". It would be nice to have a built in precision wattmeter, too. I'm sure some would also like an auto-tuner, antenna switch w/ memories, dummy load, monitor scope...etc. It could be "optioned" just like the K3 so cost could be adjusted to the budget of the buyer... 73 de Greg-N4CC -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 2:13 PM To: [hidden email] Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 Frankly, It seems to me that good QRO amps are a glut on the market. (see THP, etc.) To be competitive in that market, any Elecraft offering would have to be highly innovative and I just don't see much more that can be done. IMHO Doug, W6JD K2 #1626 K3 #23 ----- Original Message ----- From: [hidden email] To: [hidden email] Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2010 8:08:37 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 YES! That is exactly the question I would like to ask. I very much looked forward to the release a couple of years ago, and now you can't even get a comment from Elecraft about the situation. IMO, QRO is much more important than all these trivial little toys they are building now. I have a much more pressing need for a KPA-XXXX than I do a panadapter (with limited features) and a wattmeter. I have a very nice panadapter that has rig control from the computer, and it didn't cost 700 bucks, and I can control it with the MOUSE. Wayne/Eric, how about some comments on this subject. At least tell us what the future holds for the KPAs. I'm holding off buying a new amp till the KPAs are released. Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of DaveVK Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 12:21 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 What happened to the Elecraft Amps? Did they get beyond 'proto: gee I want one' stage? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4528292.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2673 - Release Date: 02/07/10 01:22:00 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2673 - Release Date: 02/07/10 01:22:00 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Alpha 8410 - $5K, but you have to tune it, and your grandchildren will, because it will outlast you.
Alpha 9500 - $8K, and you will still be dead while it still works, but the grandchildren don't have to tune it at all. Pretty boring for them. :>) The fact is, for people that have the money, it will be hard to convince them not to buy an Alpha 9500. It is the amp most of us would love to have. At the same time, I can get full legal power out of my Henry that was made in the 60's. It just takes turning knobs. :>) <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Spend $5K for an Alpha with a pair of 4CX1000A's which will do "brick on the key" all day and night or the same $5K on an amp that can't (THP 2.5K)? I would encourage Elecraft to drop the whole idea unless they can build and sell an "Alpha Class" amp for less. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
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Ah, I don't think so. They were going to be a little less than half
that, if my memory serves me correctly. Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob - W0GI <<<<<<<< As long as your budget was $10,000. >>>>>>>>> :>) I think I will continue to turn bandswitch, roller inductor and air-cap knobs, and use the other $9000 for other stuff. -- ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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If the goal was a 100% duty cycle 1500W amp for $5000, then the answer why it wasn't produced, has been given. It's not going to happen by anyone, unless they like losing money.
"Was going to be half of that", are two different things. The "was" part didn't happen, and won't happen. Check the prices of the mosfets and power supply needed, and it will become obvious. Apha has the R&D money, but they haven't done a SS 1.5KW amp, because it isn't cost effective. Not only that, but why would anyone want an amp that would require 3 times the money to replace mosfets, as opossed to a ceramic tube, that will take a lot more abuse and be less prone to failure, and probably last a lifetime? Just the way it is...... <<<<<< Ah, I don't think so. They were going to be a little less than half that, if my memory serves me correctly. Stan Rife W5EWA >>>>>> |
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Apparently someone thinks it is cost effective. What would you need
100% duty cycle at 1500 watts for anyway? We don't have broadcast licences. I don't think Elecraft was trying to achieve that anyway. http://www.steppir.com/SteppirSPE.html This is the 1K model. SteppIR is just the dealer. It's only rated for 5 minutes at half power. That's probably enough for a digital QSO. SPE's website says they have a 2K model that puts out double the power of the 1K. Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob - W0GI If the goal was a 100% duty cycle 1500W amp for $5000, then the answer why it wasn't produced, has been given. It's not going to happen by anyone, unless they like losing money. "Was going to be half of that", are two different things. The "was" part didn't happen, and won't happen. Check the prices of the mosfets and power supply needed, and it will become obvious. Apha has the R&D money, but they haven't done a SS 1.5KW amp, because it isn't cost effective. Not only that, but why would anyone want an amp that would require 3 times the money to replace mosfets, as opossed to a ceramic tube, that will take a lot more abuse and be less prone to failure, and probably last a lifetime? Just the way it is...... ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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<<<<<< Apparently someone thinks it is cost effective. What would you need
100% duty cycle at 1500 watts for anyway? We don't have broadcast licences. I don't think Elecraft was trying to achieve that anyway. >>>>>> Are you trying to argue here? Why do I even need 100W? I work a lot of stations on the K1 at 5 watts. But beyond that, someone that wants to use full legal power, will want 100% duty cycle on CW and digital at full legal power. 100% unlimited transmit power at 1500 watts, 24x7 if they so desire. Maybe you aren't trying to argue, but I am talking about full power SS, not something less. The fact is, either Alpha will do 1500 watts, on any mode, continuously 24x7 for years, and not minutes. I like to argue, if you could tell me what I am arguing about. :>) |
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I wasn't trying to create an argument. I was expressing a desire to see my
"wish list amp". I don't know what Elecraft has/had planned. I never said anything about $5000 or $10000. I never said anything about Alpha I never said anything about MOSFETS I said I would like to see a 160-6 meter, continuous duty 1500 watt amplifier capable of QSK that was "instant on". The current Alphas don't cover 6 meters nor are either one of them instant on. Continuous duty doesn't mean someone has to run the amp all the time. But if it is built to that spec, it will handle anything I would ever use it for and do it with "headroom". I like that. 73 de Greg-N4CC -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob - W0GI Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:42 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 <<<<<< Apparently someone thinks it is cost effective. What would you need 100% duty cycle at 1500 watts for anyway? We don't have broadcast licences. I don't think Elecraft was trying to achieve that anyway. >>>>>> Are you trying to argue here? Why do I even need 100W? I work a lot of stations on the K1 at 5 watts. But beyond that, someone that wants to use full legal power, will want 100% duty cycle on CW and digital at full legal power. 100% unlimited transmit power at 1500 watts, 24x7 if they so desire. Maybe you aren't trying to argue, but I am talking about full power SS, not something less. The fact is, either Alpha will do 1500 watts, on any mode, continuously 24x7 for years, and not minutes. I like to argue, if you could tell me what I am arguing about. :>) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4532343.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
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Greg,
You have some serious expectations for a full power amplifier? My Henry is instant on, but it doesn't do 6 meters. You also have to tune it. That pig was made in the 60's, and still puts out full legal power. Go figure? 73 - Bob. |
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Good deal Greg. Yeah, I read your email ok. I was just trying to
express my desire for Elecraft to go ahead and produce the KPA's. I guess I mis-stated something and that shook the trees too hard. There are a lot of experts on here. :-) Stan Rife W5EWA -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Greg Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 11:23 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 I wasn't trying to create an argument. I was expressing a desire to see my "wish list amp". I don't know what Elecraft has/had planned. I never said anything about $5000 or $10000. I never said anything about Alpha I never said anything about MOSFETS I said I would like to see a 160-6 meter, continuous duty 1500 watt amplifier capable of QSK that was "instant on". The current Alphas don't cover 6 meters nor are either one of them instant on. Continuous duty doesn't mean someone has to run the amp all the time. But if it is built to that spec, it will handle anything I would ever use it for and do it with "headroom". I like that. 73 de Greg-N4CC -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Bob - W0GI Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2010 9:42 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800 <<<<<< Apparently someone thinks it is cost effective. What would you need 100% duty cycle at 1500 watts for anyway? We don't have broadcast licences. I don't think Elecraft was trying to achieve that anyway. >>>>>> Are you trying to argue here? Why do I even need 100W? I work a lot of stations on the K1 at 5 watts. But beyond that, someone that wants to use full legal power, will want 100% duty cycle on CW and digital at full legal power. 100% unlimited transmit power at 1500 watts, 24x7 if they so desire. Maybe you aren't trying to argue, but I am talking about full power SS, not something less. The fact is, either Alpha will do 1500 watts, on any mode, continuously 24x7 for years, and not minutes. I like to argue, if you could tell me what I am arguing about. :>) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/What-became-of-the-Elecraft-s-KPA1500-and-KPA-800-tp452 8292p4532343.html Sent from the [OT] mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2673 - Release Date: 02/07/10 13:35:00 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
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> It must have been the "export" model. Full legal power in the "60's
> was 1KW input. Probably near half that out. 73, Rick Dettinger K7MW > > That pig was made in the 60's, and still puts out full legal power. Go > figure? > > 73 - Bob. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Re: What became of the Elecraft's KPA1500 and KPA 800
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> "I would like to see a 160-6 meter, continuous duty 1500 watt
amplifier capable of QSK that was "instant on." Greg, The new SPE 2K-FA should meet your wish-list criteria: http://www.radio-ham.eu/download/Leaflet%20Expert%202K-FA%20inglese.pdf I believe it's still awaiting FCC certification. Paul, W9AC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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