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Alan Price-3

What is it called?

When ice freezes, it is called frozen. When glue hardens, it dries, and concrete cures. What is it called when solder becomes solid again after being in the liquid state.

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Darwin, Keith

Re: What is it called?

I've always thought it was called "cooling" or "solidifying".

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When ice freezes, it is called frozen. When glue hardens, it dries, and
concrete cures. What is it called when solder becomes solid again after
being in the liquid state.

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David Fleming-2

Re: What is it called?

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> What is it called when solder becomes solid

You said it yourself. Molten metal SOLIDIFIES when cooled. :)

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Re: What is it called?

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<quote author="Alan Price-3">

When ice freezes, it is called frozen. When glue hardens, it dries, and concrete cures. What is it called when solder becomes solid again after being in the liquid state.

If that is what happened it is usually called a dry joint...

John-483

Re: What is it called?

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At 10:06 AM 09/04/09, you wrote:

>When ice freezes, it is called frozen. When glue hardens, it dries,
>and concrete cures. What is it called when solder becomes solid
>again after being in the liquid state.
>
>
Set?

john
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Adam Koczarski-2

Re: What is it called?

> -----Original Message-----
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> At 10:06 AM 09/04/09, you wrote:
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> > What is it called when solder becomes solid
> >again after being in the liquid state.
> >

If the work was performed by me it's called a "cold joint". ;-)

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Steve Ellington

Re: What is it called?

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Trolling

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> When ice freezes, it is called frozen. When glue hardens, it dries, and
> concrete cures. What is it called when solder becomes solid again after
> being in the liquid state.
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> 73
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> Alan
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Alan Bloom

Re: What is it called?

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On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 09:06 -0700, Alan Price wrote:
> When ice freezes, it is called frozen. When glue hardens, it dries,
> and concrete cures. What is it called when solder becomes solid
> again after being in the liquid state.

I have the opposite question: What do you call it when solder goes from
the solid to the liquid state? I guess "melt" but somehow that sounds a
little odd to me when referring to solder.

Al N1AL

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w0mu

Re: What is it called?

I think you "FLOW" solder.

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On Thu, 2009-04-09 at 09:06 -0700, Alan Price wrote:
> When ice freezes, it is called frozen. When glue hardens, it dries,
> and concrete cures. What is it called when solder becomes solid again
> after being in the liquid state.

I have the opposite question: What do you call it when solder goes from the
solid to the liquid state? I guess "melt" but somehow that sounds a little
odd to me when referring to solder.

Al N1AL

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Jack Brindle

Re: What is it called?

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Well, at my place when it has cooled, it is called "soldered."
Then we go on to the next step...

Jack Brindle, W6FB

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>> At 10:06 AM 09/04/09, you wrote:
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>> > What is it called when solder becomes solid
>> >again after being in the liquid state.
>> >
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>If the work was performed by me it's called a "cold joint". ;-)
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ng3v

Re: What is it called?

I'm probably over thinking this, but when solder changes from any state to
any other state, it's still called solder.

: )

Tom

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Well, at my place when it has cooled, it is called "soldered."
Then we go on to the next step...

Jack Brindle, W6FB

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Mel

Re: What is it called?

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I think this thread has gone about to the limit, but, soldering is "bonding" materials together with a eutectic material, in this case usually a lead/tin based 63/37% material. Soldering/heating is what you do to accomplish the act. Nuf said.

Mel, K6KBE

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I'm probably over thinking this, but when solder changes from any state to
any other state, it's still called
solder.

: )

Tom

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Well, at my place when it has cooled, it is called "soldered."
Then we go on to the next step...

Jack Brindle, W6FB

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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: What is it called?

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Alan,

If I am working on a radio, I would call it "DONE" - go on to the next
one. :-D

Now... if a drop of molten solder falls on the floor ....?? (is that
akin to a tree falling in the forest?)

We now return to our regularly scheduled broadcast.

73,
Don W3FPR

Alan Price wrote:
> When ice freezes, it is called frozen. When glue hardens, it dries, and concrete cures. What is it called when solder becomes solid again after being in the liquid state.
>
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Gilbert Cross

Re: What is it called?

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At the eutectic, the solidus and liquidus temps are the same
Gil

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> I'm probably over thinking this, but when solder changes from any state to
> any other state, it's still called solder.
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: What is it called?

Eutectic only applies to the 37/63 solder alloy.
Eutectic infers two things - 1) it is the alloy with the lowest
temperature melting point, and 2) there is no "plastic state", meaning
it goes directly from a liquid to a solid with no plastic state in between.

The second point is the most important to us who solder - it will
prevent 'cold solder' connections which can result from movement while
the solder is cooling. If there is movement during the plastic state,
the solder may crystallize and have poor conductivity as a result.

For those purchasing solder, the 37/63 alloy is preferred over the
60/40 alloy for this very reason.

73,
Don W3FPR

Gil Cross wrote:
> At the eutectic, the solidus and liquidus temps are the same
> Gil
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