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Which Heil Prosets should we carry?
 
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Since the K3 is also compatible with the other Heil Proset boom mic
headsets that use the HC4 and HC5 elements, which model does everyone like? Any favorite models? Its not practical for us to carry them all, but I'd like to add at least one or two of the more popular versions to our product list. 73, Eric WA6HHQ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Eric,
I'm going to pass on the Heil Proset headsets and let the dx/contest ops share their "wants" with you. I'm a ragchewer and net op and this is what I wish you could provide as an option: 1.) A desk mike. 2.) A matching power supply/speaker...with a quality+ speaker. I hope you can come to the Charlotte, NC Hamfest with the K3 on March 8 & 9! 73, Larry WD4MBE -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:49 PM To: Elecraft List Subject: [Elecraft] Which Heil Prosets should we carry? Since the K3 is also compatible with the other Heil Proset boom mic headsets that use the HC4 and HC5 elements, which model does everyone like? Any favorite models? Its not practical for us to carry them all, but I'd like to add at least one or two of the more popular versions to our product list. 73, Eric WA6HHQ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I get glowing reports on my K3 audio with the HC5 element. It would be
very nice to have a K3-compatible plug-n-play desk mic with the HC5 element. Also, I've had a bit of trouble finding 8-pin foster mic plugs. This might be a nice thing for Elecraft to stock. 73, Doug -- K0DXV Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > Since the K3 is also compatible with the other Heil Proset boom mic > headsets that use the HC4 and HC5 elements, which model does everyone > like? Any favorite models? > > Its not practical for us to carry them all, but I'd like to add at > least one or two of the more popular versions to our product list. > > 73, Eric WA6HHQ > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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-----Original Message----- From: Larry Maguire [mailto:[hidden email]] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:43 PM To: 'Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft'; 'Elecraft List' Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Which Heil Prosets should we carry? Eric, I'm going to pass on the Heil Proset headsets and let the dx/contest ops share their "wants" with you. I'm a ragchewer and net op and this is what I wish you could provide as an option: 1.) A desk mike. 2.) A matching power supply/speaker...with a quality+ speaker. I hope you can come to the Charlotte, NC Hamfest with the K3 on March 8 & 9! 73, Larry WD4MBE -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:49 PM To: Elecraft List Subject: [Elecraft] Which Heil Prosets should we carry? Since the K3 is also compatible with the other Heil Proset boom mic headsets that use the HC4 and HC5 elements, which model does everyone like? Any favorite models? Its not practical for us to carry them all, but I'd like to add at least one or two of the more popular versions to our product list. 73, Eric WA6HHQ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I think the best overall ProSet is the single-element HC5. The HC4 element is
good for busting pileups, but you should be able to make an HC5 sound like an HC4 by judicious adjustment of the K3 TX equalization. For this same reason, I don't think the ProSet that contains both HC4 and HC5 elements with a small switch is necessary either. I have had many unsolicited "great audio" comments using my HC5 ProSet with a Kenwood transmitter. On the K3, can you switch between two TX equalization profiles with a single knob-tap or similar? Bill W5WVO Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: > Since the K3 is also compatible with the other Heil Proset boom mic > headsets that use the HC4 and HC5 elements, which model does everyone > like? Any favorite models? > > Its not practical for us to carry them all, but I'd like to add at > least one or two of the more popular versions to our product list. > > 73, Eric WA6HHQ > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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My vote is for the ProSet Plus (both elements) 73 ... Craig AC0DS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Pro-Set Plus (with both the HC4 and HC5 elements) gets my vote.
The standard Pro-Set only has a life expectancy of about 1 year in my shack before they tend to fall apart! The Pro-Set Plus has out-lived my previous 2 Pro-Sets by a couple of years and is still going strong. Then again I have 4 kids under 10 who enjoy playing in the shack, so my conditions may be a bit extreme! David, Vk2NU
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Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft a écrit :
> Since the K3 is also compatible with the other Heil Proset boom mic > headsets that use the HC4 and HC5 elements, which model does everyone > like? Any favorite models? Hi, Mine is a Proset Plus, so it has both HC4 and HC5. This is a "no choice" but in fact i use them both. A good solution. But as i already have one and try to take care ot if, i won't be a buyer... -- Laurent Ferracci, F1JKJ Blog radio: http://www.ferracci.org _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:
> Since the K3 is also compatible with the other Heil Proset boom mic > headsets that use the HC4 and HC5 elements, which model does everyone > like? Any favorite models? > > Its not practical for us to carry them all, but I'd like to add at > least one or two of the more popular versions to our product list. Personally, I am not a fan of the Proset Plus, I find it uncomfortable. The simple proset with an HC5 element is what I use for contest and DX work. From the shack I prefer to use the Goldline GM-5 giving me the choice of broadcast or DX elements. Of course thia all suits my voice. However the Goldline/K3 combination seems to be one of those sweet combinations in life. Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #? _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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My vote would be for the Proset with H4 element for Contesting/DXing use. Second would be the Proset Plus what contains both the HC4/HC5 elements but is a bit heavier and more tiring to wear for long periods.
(consider the Heil footswitch also!) Most of all thanks for asking. 73, Larry K1UO |
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I still like the BC-10 with an HC4 element for home and traveling. It's very
light and comfortable, especially in hot climates. N2TK, Tony -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 8:49 PM To: Elecraft List Subject: [Elecraft] Which Heil Prosets should we carry? Since the K3 is also compatible with the other Heil Proset boom mic headsets that use the HC4 and HC5 elements, which model does everyone like? Any favorite models? Its not practical for us to carry them all, but I'd like to add at least one or two of the more popular versions to our product list. 73, Eric WA6HHQ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I like the Pro-set Plus because it's dual purpose. Although I don't see
having the money to own a K3 in the near future I do occasionally use my pro-set plus that is set up for my Kenwood TS-2K on my K2 and I have never received a bad audio report. Brian N1WNC K2/100 5946 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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My vote is HC5. I have the HC4 and it comes out sounding "pinched" on my K2. If I want the DX sound I can adjust the TX equalization on the K3 using the HC5. But it won't work as well the other way around because the HC4 eliminates lows to start with and the equalizer can't create sounds that the mike didn't pass along. 73 de K1ESE John _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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>> Since the K3 is also compatible with the other Heil Proset boom mic
>> headsets that use the HC4 and HC5 elements, which model does everyone >> like? Any favorite models? To tell you the truth, I do not like the Heil headsets, because the ear phones have the poor isolation of surrounding noise. The Pilot PA11-60 headset is very popular here, and is my headset of choice. AFAIK, the US version is the PA-1161T. <http://www.pilot-europe.com/products/item.php?id=68> <http://www.pilot-usa.com/pa1161a.htm> vy 73 de toby PS: I have nothing to do with the company but I like the headset... _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Can I vote for none at all?
Elecraft are likely to make a loss from reselleing Heil and in any case their elements are readily available elsewhere. It would be more appropriate to design a sophisticated DSP based microphone equallizer that could take a professional quality microphone, that is one with a flat and uncoloured response, and distort it to sound like any microphone element the user might want, even a Heil. Mike |
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This is exactly what we can do with the 8 band TX EQ built into the K3 :-)
73, Eric WA6HHQ === AD6XY - Mike wrote: > It would be more appropriate to design a sophisticated DSP based microphone > equallizer that could take a professional quality microphone, that is one > with a flat and uncoloured response, and distort it to sound like any > microphone element the user might want, even a Heil. > > Mike > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I have and regularly use the ProSet+. The combination of HC4 and HC5 makes
the headset versatile. The ear pieces hurt after a long session. Elecraft would do well to offer a new headset with ear pieces that don't rest on the ears, but around them, with the equivalent of HC4 and HC5. The ProSet ear pieces are not bad. Rich NU6T K1 only so far _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I'm sure you will get a bunch of answers to this question, and probably all
different! Personally, I endorse the choice you already made in supplying the current Heil headset. It has the "IC" element in it, and that came highly recommended to me by several users who I think are fairly knowledgeable. I think the Pro Set Plus would be a possible alternative, but I really wonder if it is that beneficial since the K3 has the built in equalizer. Seems to me you could probably replicate most or all of the beneficial effects the HC4 element generates just using the equalizer. Isn't that true? Haven't tried it, but that would be my guess. I'm not much on desk mikes (they get in the way of my paddle!!!!!), but lots of folks are. I rather think if you are looking for something to expand your line of options, a good desk mike would perhaps be the right answer. I don't know that you need to offer another headset option, unless it would be something like the Heil Traveler, which is smaller and lighter than the Pro Set. Eric, my suggestion is that you put together some sort of survey type questionnaire--doesn't have to be complicated. But if you poll folks on what their favorite mike or headset is and why, you might get a better picture of what really appeals to them. I'd make the questions "open ended" so that you can get some real input. Takes a little more time to sort through the responses, but I think you get better input that way. That's sort of what you did with your email, but I think a little more direction as to the responses you need would be better. Your question really only asked folks to consider the HC4 and HC5 elements (a "closed ended" approach). If that's really all you want to consider offering, then I suppose that's fine. But you might find that a niche exists for something entirely different. Dave W7AQK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]> To: "Elecraft List" <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:49 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Which Heil Prosets should we carry? > Since the K3 is also compatible with the other Heil Proset boom mic > headsets that use the HC4 and HC5 elements, which model does everyone > like? Any favorite models? > > Its not practical for us to carry them all, but I'd like to add at least > one or two of the more popular versions to our product list. > > 73, Eric WA6HHQ > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I have an early Proset that did fall apart. The ball joint connection was a
bit weak. This has been corrected in the newer Prosets. You can purchase two new glass reinforced replacement inner supports for $3 each and a new cord for $8. I consider this very reasonable. If you ever run across a broken Proset cheap, I recommend buying it and doing the repairs yourself. Even the speaker elements are only $4 each. See: http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/products/parts/ My vote is for the standard Proset with the HC5 element. Steve, W2MY, AAR6CX/T ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vk2NU" <[hidden email]> > The standard Pro-Set only has a life expectancy of about 1 year in my > shack > before they tend to fall apart! > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I own the following Heil models:
* Pro Set Plus * Pro Set QuietPhone * Traveler Dual Side I used to also own the Traveler Single Side phones but sold them as they were very uncomfortable. If you were to carry two models, I would suggest the 1. Traveler Dual Side -- for portable operator use, and 2. Pro Set QuietPhone -- for serious fixed operation I also like my Pro Set Plus unit but find the noise canceling feature of the QuietPhone very helpful both at home and on DXpeditions. Also, the QuietPhone is more comfortable on the head and ears during those long hours. For a few dollars more you get a much better feeling headset, with noise cancellation, and a good mic. I first used one of these QuietPhones at K1TTT's station for the ARRL DX contest. Within 5 minutes I knew I had to order a set for myself. They were that much better than my Pro Set Plus (IMHO). For those times you don't want to carry the big heavy headsets the Traveler Dual Side is my choice. They are comfortable when working outside in the heat and perform well (both on the ears and at the mic). There will not likely be any consensus here (on anything!), but my vote would be those two "higher-end" of the Heil offerings. My 2-cents. Refunds upon request. -- Scott (NE1RD) |
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