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I haven't tried raspberry pie yet, so can't comment. After trying many Linux distros I finally ended with Elementary OS
I too understand the real estate issue. The plan was to sell the iMac and stick with the Linux/win7 desktop. Well, it didn't happen! Now I use both and my ham shack is full of radios computers and half built stuff. Typical HAM! Paul AF5BV Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 29, 2014, at 11:49, Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Which Linux? > > I have Ubuntu on my laptop but when it comes to the question of which Linux it is usually a question of which desktop U/I is your favorite. As for me, I don't like any of the Linux desktops and I primarily use Linux using a terminal window and vi as the editor. Major development work I still do on my Mac and merely move it to the Linux system if that is where it is to be executed. None of my stuff uses a graphic U/I on Linux. It is all under the covers system oriented stuff and primarily for play, not real stuff, or now-and-then, doing work related to my former company and its software that runs on Linux. > > Besides, I am liking RPi a lot more and I know what you mean by real estate. Merely having the monitor on the desk top is a hassle so I don't do that. Instead I network into the RPi and use SSH and this gets rid of the keyboard, the mouse, and the display since I am doing this from the iMac or my Macbook Pro. The RPi is running all the time (or, most of the time) with a short little CAT5 cable into my WiFi router Ethernet port (so it is on the same subnet as wireless in the house). > > I almost never use the desktop U/I with RPi but some day when I get around to it I am thinking of experimenting with client X-Window U/I running on my Mac and served from RPi (of course, the X-Window system reverses the common notion of client/server). > > Performance on RPi -- well, I bet your HP Win8.1 is a speed demon in comparison to RPi but RPi is not bad if you are NOT running the X Window system and the desktop. > > 73, phil, K7PEH > > >> On Mar 29, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> My problem with the RPi is that it has so many pieces: Keyboard, RPi, Monitor (and converter to let me use SVGA monitor with it), etc.. So it's too spread out to use at my operating position *and* do ham radio. >> >> My $280 HP Win 8.1 machine is small, usable but a bit slow (1 GHz CPU, 2 GB RAM) but has a 320 GB HDD. I'm thinking of installing a Linux version on that (making it dual boot). Suggestions of which to install will be appreciated. First I need to figure out how to make it dual-boot: It didn't come with a Bootcamp, though for all I know Win 8.1 has one in there somewhere! >> >> 73, Phil w7ox >> >>> On 3/29/14, 7:47 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: >>> Further on this question... >>> >>> Has anyone tried out the Linux version of the Elecraft utilities on Raspberry Pi? Oh, maybe I can do that if I steal some time from other projects. I have never bothered to even look at these Linux version utilities to see what dependencies they might have. >>> >>> My only use of computers in the ham shack is for running the Elecraft utilities which I do on my iMac desktop (currently writing on my Macbook Pro laptop). A full Apple Mac house here. I did have Windows running on an old laptop which I kept for running Eznec only but I have switched over from Eznec to NEC4 totally and I am working on doing the graphic work in Mathematica -- both of these are on my Mac computers. I still have that old windows laptop but now it is an old Linux laptop that is collecting the same amount of dust as it did with windows loaded on it (I like Linux but there is nothing I can do on Linux I can't do on my Macs). >>> >>> 73, phil, K7PEH >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 29, 2014, at 7:24 AM, Anthony Marriott <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I am very much the same way - I have an iMac and Macbook Air but recently built a dual boot Win7/Linux box. Originally I went for Win7 since I had had enough of running some Ham aps under VMWare on the mac. Now I find myself mostly in Linux mode for Ham use - I use Elementary OS as my Linux “distro” of choice because I can configure it more to look like OSX. Linux has a lot of Ham support, more than OSX probably, and I can configure fldigi without issue to operate digital. I still have not given up the mac since I am also a photographer, and Photoshop is not available under Linux, so the iMac is still my workhorse photo machine. >>>> >>>> For an old machine, I’d most certainly try Linux - try eOS, or other Ubuntu distro like Mint. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> AF5BV >>>> >>>>> On Mar 28, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm with Don on this one. I use two Macs, with OS X 10.9.x, for most of my work -- but both have Windows 7 installed in dual boot configuration, because Windows has better support for some needs -- like ham radio and managing my GPS map loads to name two. My workhorse ripping and burning machine is a 5-year old Dell running Win 7 (was XP) because I can use very fast optical drives with it and I prefer the software on that platform. And my ham shack machine is a $280, 10.1" HP running Win 8.1; it does all the Elecraft support quite well, as well as digital modes. >>>>> >>>>> But I do have a Raspberry Pi running Linux :-) >>>>> >>>>> 73, Phil w7ox >>>>> >>>>>> On 3/28/14, 7:05 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>>>>> I have tried Linux. It is just fine for those who have computers that are not networked to each other and do not need access to files on other computers on a network. Yes, for Linux geeks, it can be made to work, but discovering just the right 'tweeks' for Samba can be frustrating. >>>>>> >>>>>> If all one wants is a computer to do email and surfing the internet, Linux is an extremely good no cost solution, but if integration into a Windows Network is part of your operation, I suggest that you upgrade to Win 7 or Win 8, there are just too many hurdles to leap in that situation with Linux. Besides, most ham applications are Windows based, and several do not run well under Wine. Getting COM port assignments when using Wine has been an exercise in frustration for me, most recently with USB adapters. Maybe I am just not "geek enough", but it was frustrating and not successful. >>>>>> >>>>>> Linux may be good (and getting better), but it is not the cure for all ills. As I indicated, it is a good, no cost solution for old Win XP computers that will be used primarily as standalone computers for email and internet surfing. For that I like Linux Mint with the Mate desktop - it is quite "windows-like" and can be easily used by users who are transitioning from Windows. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have 8 computers plus a file server on my network that talk to each other, all running Win 7, but 2 of them dual boot to Linux Mint for those occasional excursions for things that do not work on Windows - but those are not mainstream items, they are "sideshows". The workbench computer and the ham shack computer are the only 2 with that dual boot installation. >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, >>>>>> Don W3FPR > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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> I too understand the real estate issue. The plan was to sell the iMac and stick with the Linux/win7 desktop.
The lack of surface area is an ever increasing problem for me in my shack but I have found a partial solution. Decided to sell all non-Elecraft rigs. I just sold my Icom 756 Pro III earlier this week. Two months ago, I sold my Icom PW-1 linear. Other stuff that I have not yet decide to keep or sell is currently in storage and I gained more room on the shelf. Ham radio seems to be one of those hobbies where people collect way too much stuff -- way more than they can use and sometimes way more than they can even look at or touch. Result, overcrowded shacks. PEH's iPad On Mar 29, 2014, at 12:54 PM, Anthony Marriott <[hidden email]> wrote: > I haven't tried raspberry pie yet, so can't comment. After trying many Linux distros I finally ended with Elementary OS > > I too understand the real estate issue. The plan was to sell the iMac and stick with the Linux/win7 desktop. Well, it didn't happen! Now I use both and my ham shack is full of radios computers and half built stuff. Typical HAM! > > Paul > AF5BV > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 29, 2014, at 11:49, Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Which Linux? >> >> I have Ubuntu on my laptop but when it comes to the question of which Linux it is usually a question of which desktop U/I is your favorite. As for me, I don't like any of the Linux desktops and I primarily use Linux using a terminal window and vi as the editor. Major development work I still do on my Mac and merely move it to the Linux system if that is where it is to be executed. None of my stuff uses a graphic U/I on Linux. It is all under the covers system oriented stuff and primarily for play, not real stuff, or now-and-then, doing work related to my former company and its software that runs on Linux. >> >> Besides, I am liking RPi a lot more and I know what you mean by real estate. Merely having the monitor on the desk top is a hassle so I don't do that. Instead I network into the RPi and use SSH and this gets rid of the keyboard, the mouse, and the display since I am doing this from the iMac or my Macbook Pro. The RPi is running all the time (or, most of the time) with a short little CAT5 cable into my WiFi router Ethernet port (so it is on the same subnet as wireless in the house). >> >> I almost never use the desktop U/I with RPi but some day when I get around to it I am thinking of experimenting with client X-Window U/I running on my Mac and served from RPi (of course, the X-Window system reverses the common notion of client/server). >> >> Performance on RPi -- well, I bet your HP Win8.1 is a speed demon in comparison to RPi but RPi is not bad if you are NOT running the X Window system and the desktop. >> >> 73, phil, K7PEH >> >> >>> On Mar 29, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> My problem with the RPi is that it has so many pieces: Keyboard, RPi, Monitor (and converter to let me use SVGA monitor with it), etc.. So it's too spread out to use at my operating position *and* do ham radio. >>> >>> My $280 HP Win 8.1 machine is small, usable but a bit slow (1 GHz CPU, 2 GB RAM) but has a 320 GB HDD. I'm thinking of installing a Linux version on that (making it dual boot). Suggestions of which to install will be appreciated. First I need to figure out how to make it dual-boot: It didn't come with a Bootcamp, though for all I know Win 8.1 has one in there somewhere! >>> >>> 73, Phil w7ox >>> >>>> On 3/29/14, 7:47 AM, Phil Hystad wrote: >>>> Further on this question... >>>> >>>> Has anyone tried out the Linux version of the Elecraft utilities on Raspberry Pi? Oh, maybe I can do that if I steal some time from other projects. I have never bothered to even look at these Linux version utilities to see what dependencies they might have. >>>> >>>> My only use of computers in the ham shack is for running the Elecraft utilities which I do on my iMac desktop (currently writing on my Macbook Pro laptop). A full Apple Mac house here. I did have Windows running on an old laptop which I kept for running Eznec only but I have switched over from Eznec to NEC4 totally and I am working on doing the graphic work in Mathematica -- both of these are on my Mac computers. I still have that old windows laptop but now it is an old Linux laptop that is collecting the same amount of dust as it did with windows loaded on it (I like Linux but there is nothing I can do on Linux I can't do on my Macs). >>>> >>>> 73, phil, K7PEH >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Mar 29, 2014, at 7:24 AM, Anthony Marriott <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I am very much the same way - I have an iMac and Macbook Air but recently built a dual boot Win7/Linux box. Originally I went for Win7 since I had had enough of running some Ham aps under VMWare on the mac. Now I find myself mostly in Linux mode for Ham use - I use Elementary OS as my Linux “distro” of choice because I can configure it more to look like OSX. Linux has a lot of Ham support, more than OSX probably, and I can configure fldigi without issue to operate digital. I still have not given up the mac since I am also a photographer, and Photoshop is not available under Linux, so the iMac is still my workhorse photo machine. >>>>> >>>>> For an old machine, I’d most certainly try Linux - try eOS, or other Ubuntu distro like Mint. >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> AF5BV >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 28, 2014, at 9:21 PM, Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm with Don on this one. I use two Macs, with OS X 10.9.x, for most of my work -- but both have Windows 7 installed in dual boot configuration, because Windows has better support for some needs -- like ham radio and managing my GPS map loads to name two. My workhorse ripping and burning machine is a 5-year old Dell running Win 7 (was XP) because I can use very fast optical drives with it and I prefer the software on that platform. And my ham shack machine is a $280, 10.1" HP running Win 8.1; it does all the Elecraft support quite well, as well as digital modes. >>>>>> >>>>>> But I do have a Raspberry Pi running Linux :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> 73, Phil w7ox >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/28/14, 7:05 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: >>>>>>> I have tried Linux. It is just fine for those who have computers that are not networked to each other and do not need access to files on other computers on a network. Yes, for Linux geeks, it can be made to work, but discovering just the right 'tweeks' for Samba can be frustrating. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If all one wants is a computer to do email and surfing the internet, Linux is an extremely good no cost solution, but if integration into a Windows Network is part of your operation, I suggest that you upgrade to Win 7 or Win 8, there are just too many hurdles to leap in that situation with Linux. Besides, most ham applications are Windows based, and several do not run well under Wine. Getting COM port assignments when using Wine has been an exercise in frustration for me, most recently with USB adapters. Maybe I am just not "geek enough", but it was frustrating and not successful. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Linux may be good (and getting better), but it is not the cure for all ills. As I indicated, it is a good, no cost solution for old Win XP computers that will be used primarily as standalone computers for email and internet surfing. For that I like Linux Mint with the Mate desktop - it is quite "windows-like" and can be easily used by users who are transitioning from Windows. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have 8 computers plus a file server on my network that talk to each other, all running Win 7, but 2 of them dual boot to Linux Mint for those occasional excursions for things that do not work on Windows - but those are not mainstream items, they are "sideshows". The workbench computer and the ham shack computer are the only 2 with that dual boot installation. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73, >>>>>>> Don W3FPR >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I will apologize for what in retrospect might have been seen as a cheap
shot - without comment or support. In my defense - it was an attempt at humor on a Friday afternoon after a rough week. I was not suggesting that anyone should completely abandon Windows for Linux.... If you have an app that needs Windows, then run Windows. I have 2 laptops that run Windows for Audio apps. I would also steer clear from using Wine - unless you like pain. However, it seems to me the situation might be looked at as an opportunity to give Linux a try. Especially, as has been noted, if the computer has 2gB or less memory. Linux will run fine with that constraint - not so sure what Win7 or Win8 need. If your main concern is interoperability in the area of file sharing, I'd suggest looking at Ubuntu 12.04. This distribution (and probably a boatload of other distros) comes with a file explorer that can work with Windows shares. You can drag and drop files to and from Linux from all over your home network. If you need something better than that - for instance - if your application needs to write to a share, you can install "cifs-utils" and "smbfs" - then you can mount the share without having to set up a samba environment. The commands looks like this: mkdir /media/share mount -t cifs -o user=USERNAME,password=PASSWD //192.168.1.88/share /media/share Cheers.... JohnE KD0NQC > I have tried Linux. It is just fine for those who have computers that > are not networked to each other and do not need access to files on > other computers on a network. Yes, for Linux geeks, it can be made to > work, but discovering just the right 'tweeks' for Samba can be > frustrating. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Phil Wheeler <[hidden email]> wrote:
> How about Fedora? http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/19/html/Amateur_Radio_Guide/index.html AFAIK, this is the only distro with ham-specific documentation. The guide didn't get updated for Fedora 20 (most of the apps didn't change much anyway), but there is a lot being added for Fedora 21. Unfortunately, there are only a few of us to do the work, so most of the amateur radio applications are still not in the guide. And most of those that are could use more detail. We would certainly welcome anyone willing to help. 73 de WB8RCR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Been there and done that with Linux. Of the latest distros
(distributions or versions), Mint is the best I have found. That said, it is the number of distributions that is keeping Linux from becoming accepted as an operating system for everyone. Too many choices is somewhat like too many cooks spoiling the stew. There needs to be a single Linux system that everyone uses. Once a single Linux system (distribution or distro) is chosen, serious programmers will develop software for Linux. Until then, to much scatter makes for a moving target for programmers hoping to make a dollar from their endeavors. Hence, Linux will continue faltering and floundering. Further, the odds of getting the Linux gang together on a single version is very unlikely. Currently, I have given up on using Linux as I have several specialized Windows programs that are not available under Linux (forget about Wine). So the old XP machine is used without connection to the outside world (Internet) and used with HRD and digital on a couple of rigs I have other than the K-Line. Bill Clarke K-Line ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 3/29/2014 4:50 PM, Bill W2BLC wrote: > > Once a single Linux system (distribution or distro) is chosen, serious > programmers will develop software for Linux. REPLY: I agree and I wold take it step further. A simple computer should be developed that runs the one and only Linux distro and doesn't try to be compatible with everything that comes down the pipe. A lot of the "innovation" I see in the computer world is really just someone trying to carve out a niche, market it and get rich. Time to bring that nonsense to a screeching halt. Done right, a Linux box like I'm describing could revolutionize computing. 73, Bill W6WRT ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Bill W2BLC <[hidden email]> wrote:
> ...Too many choices is somewhat like too many cooks spoiling the stew. > There needs to be a single Linux system... ========= But this is exactly the situation that Linux was supposed to cure. Before the arrival of Linux there was a battle royal between HP-UX, IBM Unix, and Solaris. Each was tailored to a certain manufacturer's hardware. One by one they all bit the dust, with Solaris being the last to fizzle. Linux took over the Unix world, and supposedly ended the Flavor Wars -- only to see history repeat itself, in an even more confusing melee. Nonetheless, Linux (in one flavor or another) is the OS of choice for developers who are writing back-end software. It also is the OS of routers, switches, washing machines, and a lot of devices. That probably won't change; but the consumer PC market isn't going to change either. Windows won't be dislodged. The next big OS battles won't be fought on computers, but on next-generation devices. Android has massive momentum, but the device market is very fragmented and hardware builders don't want Google getting a finger in their pie. So it'll be an interesting battle. Tony KT0NY ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Linux Mint is the best choice. It's also the most popular distribution
of linux in history. I can't think of anything it lacks. There are logging programs, rig control programs, and fantastic selection of digital programs for PSK, RTTY, CW, etc. The fact is, linux distros all use the same core. They are basically all the same. All you see in the different versions is different ideas for the user interface. It's not a one size fits all like Windows. There are basically 4 perhaps 5 different User Interfaces and they're all compatible with each other. XP is rapidly fading into the sunset where it belongs. Microsoft is dropping all support for it next month. It's pretty much a dead product. HRD works just fine in Windows 7 and Windows 8. Doug -- K0DXV On 3/29/2014 5:50 PM, Bill W2BLC wrote: > Been there and done that with Linux. Of the latest distros > (distributions or versions), Mint is the best I have found. That said, > it is the number of distributions that is keeping Linux from becoming > accepted as an operating system for everyone. Too many choices is > somewhat like too many cooks spoiling the stew. There needs to be a > single Linux system that everyone uses. > > Once a single Linux system (distribution or distro) is chosen, serious > programmers will develop software for Linux. Until then, to much > scatter makes for a moving target for programmers hoping to make a > dollar from their endeavors. Hence, Linux will continue faltering and > floundering. Further, the odds of getting the Linux gang together on > a single version is very unlikely. > > Currently, I have given up on using Linux as I have several > specialized Windows programs that are not available under Linux > (forget about Wine). So the old XP machine is used without connection > to the outside world (Internet) and used with HRD and digital on a > couple of rigs I have other than the K-Line. > > Bill Clarke K-Line > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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OK, I "own" this topic :-) Meaning I started it.
My purpose was to discover any facts or "truths" regarding continued use of win-XP. If the upgrades are to become NLA, then it will be harder to keep an older machine running. I think we all know that windows needs to be re-installed on a clean HD every few years to keep it running. If the files needed are gone then life expectancy is limited (unless you store away all the current upgrade files for future use). Synopses is that the files will continue to be available. Topic drift over to Linux is probably inevitable but that is not an option for the computer I was re-building for my wife. She is not interested in learning Linux. It took a leap of faith to try win-7 on her new laptop. Very fortunate that a lot of computer mfr's are offering win-7 as an option to win-8 with new computers -- says a lot about acceptance of win-8. Re: appropriateness of some computer issues to this reflector. Computers are now common place part of most ham shacks so some topics are germane (with limits). I'm done on this thread. 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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It's a shame how much this thread has drifted off course yet retains the
original subject line. Ed, all Windows XP service packs are available for free download direct from Microsoft's support website. I often build my own so years ago I started archiving the service packs along with other updates, plugins, and add-ons. A simple search from Google or other similar search engines will find you the full version of sp3. Here's a link: <http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=24> Gary N6LRV -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Edward R Cole Sent: Friday, March 28, 2014 3:28 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late! If you need upgrades to SP3 for win-XP, you may be too late. I rebuilt an old computer a couple weeks ago as it had gotten corrupted and the easiest process was to wipe clean the HD and reinstall windows. I only have a CD with SP2 so have relied on auto-updating to upgrade to SP3. A couple weeks ago that worked fine. My wife wanted her duo-core desktop rebuilt but may have taken too long to save off her favorite files. I got it three days ago and have rebuilt it, but auto-upgrading is not available. The IE-6.0 crashes on opening and needs to upgrade to IE-8.0 but first one has to have SP3. Well, I went exploring on MS website and found SP3 upgrades for professionals (316 MB) so hoping it will still download. You used to be able to get a CD with SP3 but it is NLA. If you were planning to upgrade your old XP computer before they stop support -- well -- it may already be too late? How's the saying go? "you snooze, you lose!" 73, Ed - KL7UW <http://www.kl7uw.com> http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: <mailto:[hidden email]> [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: <http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: <http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm> http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: <mailto:[hidden email]> mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: <http://www.qsl.net> http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: <http://www.qsl.net/donate.html> http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to <mailto:[hidden email]> [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Gary,
I thought we were done with this thread, so I will only make this "one-more" comment. I discovered this on my own and also had many helpful replies, mostly pointing this out. My wife successfully did the manual upgrades and the computer-in-question is running happily. The computer I use for ham radio is a near-clone to hers and was rebuilt about a year ago and running fine. Since I have so many installed applications I am not eager to re-build at this time. I did go thru all the computers and update drivers. My approach will be to save off SP3+132 upgrades and copy of IE-8 onto a flash drive (which is also going to archive my HD data files) for future re-build. That will likely be the point that I decide to cut internet connection from this computer. I have a newer laptop running win-8 which may see migration of my internet activities and e-mail (but is not convenient for ham radio apps and external accessories that I run - no PCI buss). PS: My wife decided to buy a new Laptop with i7 processor and 8GB memory and was able to get it installed with win-7. She is happy with it, so we will likely dispose of the computer we just re-built for her. At least it will run fine for whomever gets it! ------------ From: "Gary" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] WinXP - SP3 ... too late! Message-ID: <025b01cf4d54$48ad9200$da08b600$@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" It's a shame how much this thread has drifted off course yet retains the original subject line. Ed, all Windows XP service packs are available for free download direct from Microsoft's support website. I often build my own so years ago I started archiving the service packs along with other updates, plugins, and add-ons. A simple search from Google or other similar search engines will find you the full version of sp3. Here's a link: <http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=24> Gary N6LRV 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com "Kits made by KL7UW" Dubus Mag business: [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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