Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective exposure?) Here's the link.
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A rather useless survey. Nowhere to enter model, only manufacture. Not aware Beofeng made an HF radio.
Very disappointed. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Oct 3, 2018, at 10:22 AM, Bert Craig <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective exposure?) Here's the link. > https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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You know, I'll bet the reason Icom is #1 in this survey is just possibly,
I'm going out on a limb here, they got more votes. Along the same lines, did you ever notice that a "V" of migrating geese has one leg longer than the other? Ever wonder why? It's because there's more geese in the longer leg...... 73, Charlie k3ICH -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Bert Craig Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 10:23 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective exposure?) Here's the link. https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Maybe the "powered by ICOM" has something to do with it???
steve WB3LGC/NR3I On 10/3/2018 11:23 AM, Nr4c wrote: > A rather useless survey. Nowhere to enter model, only manufacture. Not aware Beofeng made an HF radio. > > Very disappointed. > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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What the heck difference does that make? Why should anyone care? It's stupid survey unencumbered by data in the first place , and in the second place the entire site is sponsored by Icom. Dave AB7E On 10/3/2018 7:22 AM, Bert Craig wrote: > Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective exposure?) Here's the link. > https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Oh no! That couldn't happen could it? At least Beofeng wasn't the sponsor.
On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 2:02 PM Stephen Shearer <[hidden email]> wrote: > Maybe the "powered by ICOM" has something to do with it??? > > steve WB3LGC/NR3I > > On 10/3/2018 11:23 AM, Nr4c wrote: > > A rather useless survey. Nowhere to enter model, only manufacture. Not > aware Beofeng made an HF radio. > > > > Very disappointed. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ...nr4c. bill > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > -- Jim K0XU [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I like ICOM, I also like Elecraft. DX'ers like ICOM but they are DX'ers first and QRP'ers second. I wouldn't look into the survey too seriously.
72 Howard Kraus, K2UD ---- David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote: > What the heck difference does that make? Why should anyone care? It's stupid survey unencumbered by data in the first place , and in the second place the entire site is sponsored by Icom. Dave AB7E On 10/3/2018 7:22 AM, Bert Craig wrote: > Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective exposure?) Here's the link. > https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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If you ask 10,000 hams, at random, you get a statistically valid result.
If the participants in the survey are self-selected, the results mean nothing -- and you get "Boaty McBoatface" as the winning name for the British NERC's new vessel. 73 -- Lynn On 10/3/2018 12:01 PM, Stephen Shearer wrote: > Maybe the "powered by ICOM" has something to do with it??? > > steve WB3LGC/NR3I > > On 10/3/2018 11:23 AM, Nr4c wrote: >> A rather useless survey. Nowhere to enter model, only manufacture. Not >> aware Beofeng made an HF radio. >> >> Very disappointed. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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73, Eric Moderator /elecraft.com/ On 10/3/2018 1:58 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: > If you ask 10,000 hams, at random, you get a statistically valid result. > > If the participants in the survey are self-selected, the results mean nothing > -- and you get "Boaty McBoatface" as the winning name for the British NERC's > new vessel. > > 73 -- Lynn > > On 10/3/2018 12:01 PM, Stephen Shearer wrote: >> Maybe the "powered by ICOM" has something to do with it??? >> >> steve WB3LGC/NR3I >> >> On 10/3/2018 11:23 AM, Nr4c wrote: >>> A rather useless survey. Nowhere to enter model, only manufacture. Not aware >>> Beofeng made an HF radio. >>> >>> Very disappointed. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> ...nr4c. bill >>> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Why are we wasting time AGAIN on this ridiculous & meaningless survey?
Are the bands THAT dead that we have nothing better to do? Besides, this thing went around a couple months ago anyway? Chas -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 4:59 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey If you ask 10,000 hams, at random, you get a statistically valid result. If the participants in the survey are self-selected, the results mean nothing -- and you get "Boaty McBoatface" as the winning name for the British NERC's new vessel. 73 -- Lynn On 10/3/2018 12:01 PM, Stephen Shearer wrote: > Maybe the "powered by ICOM" has something to do with it??? > > steve WB3LGC/NR3I > > On 10/3/2018 11:23 AM, Nr4c wrote: >> A rather useless survey. Nowhere to enter model, only manufacture. >> Not aware Beofeng made an HF radio. >> >> Very disappointed. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> ...nr4c. bill >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Might have more to do with the fact that ICOM is a supporter/advertiser
on that site .. LOL Neil, KN3ILZ On 10/3/2018 11:51 AM, Charlie T wrote: > You know, I'll bet the reason Icom is #1 in this survey is just possibly, > I'm going out on a limb here, they got more votes. > > Along the same lines, did you ever notice that a "V" of migrating geese has > one leg longer than the other? > Ever wonder why? > > It's because there's more geese in the longer leg...... > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On > Behalf Of Bert Craig > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 10:23 AM > To: [hidden email] > Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey > > Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective > exposure?) Here's the link. > https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > delivered to [hidden email] > > --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
I would not assume that it has anything to do with ICOM supporting the
survey, and more with the fact that there are probably many more ICOM HF rig owners than Elecraft owners... if that is true then I am a bit surprised that Yaesu and Kenwood are not ahead of Elecraft... but what does it matter anyway. I don't know a soul who would sell their Elecraft rig just because of the results of that "survey". Dave - K9FN On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:26 PM Neil Zampella <[hidden email]> wrote: > Might have more to do with the fact that ICOM is a supporter/advertiser > on that site .. LOL > > Neil, KN3ILZ > > > On 10/3/2018 11:51 AM, Charlie T wrote: > > You know, I'll bet the reason Icom is #1 in this survey is just possibly, > > I'm going out on a limb here, they got more votes. > > > > Along the same lines, did you ever notice that a "V" of migrating geese > has > > one leg longer than the other? > > Ever wonder why? > > > > It's because there's more geese in the longer leg...... > > > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> > On > > Behalf Of Bert Craig > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 10:23 AM > > To: [hidden email] > > Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey > > > > Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! > (Selective > > exposure?) Here's the link. > > https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/ > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message > > delivered to [hidden email] > > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
That was a joke ... :)
Neil, KN3ILZ On 10/3/2018 11:50 PM, David Bunte wrote: > I would not assume that it has anything to do with ICOM supporting the > survey, and more with the fact that there are probably many more ICOM > HF rig owners than Elecraft owners... if that is true then I am a bit > surprised that Yaesu and Kenwood are not ahead of Elecraft... but what > does it matter anyway. I don't know a soul who would sell their > Elecraft rig just because of the results of that "survey". > > Dave - K9FN > > On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:26 PM Neil Zampella <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > Might have more to do with the fact that ICOM is a > supporter/advertiser > on that site .. LOL > > Neil, KN3ILZ > > > On 10/3/2018 11:51 AM, Charlie T wrote: > > You know, I'll bet the reason Icom is #1 in this survey is just > possibly, > > I'm going out on a limb here, they got more votes. > > > > Along the same lines, did you ever notice that a "V" of > migrating geese has > > one leg longer than the other? > > Ever wonder why? > > > > It's because there's more geese in the longer leg...... > > > > 73, Charlie k3ICH > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]> > <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> On > > Behalf Of Bert Craig > > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 10:23 AM > > To: [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > > Subject: [Elecraft] Worldwide Transceiver Survey > > > > Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! > (Selective > > exposure?) Here's the link. > > https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/ > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]> > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message > > delivered to [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > > > > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]> > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]> > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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This thread was closed some time ago. Please, no more zombie threads :-)
Eric Mooderator elecraft.com _..._ > On Oct 3, 2018, at 7:22 AM, Bert Craig <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Why is Elecraft in 2nd place? I know we can do better than that! (Selective exposure?) Here's the link. > https://dx-world.net/worldwide-transceiver-survey/ > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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