Xytronic One-Shot 2008 Desoldering Gun

[Jim Byers-2]

Selling at a local shop for  $148.00 CDN seems like good unit for the
price.
Has anyone had any experience with this desoldering gun.

_____
73
Jim
VE3YZA

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[Crossovid]

Hi, Jim. I've had one of these units for a little over a couple of years and
find it to be very sufficient for my needs such as the updates to the Elecraft
K2/100 etc. Also the other mods as I have deemed fit to install. Even backed
some of them out.I have not had any experience with any other similar piece of
equipment however. Except for using desoldering braid and the old solder
sucker and soldering iron bit. Hope this helps     Gil  K8EAG
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[Tom Hammond-3]

Gil:

At 03:34 PM 7/26/04, you wrote:
>Hi, Jim. I've had one of these units for a little over a couple of years
>and find it to be very sufficient for my needs such as the updates to the
>Elecraft K2/100 etc. Also the other mods as I have deemed fit to install.
>Even backed some of them out.I have not had any experience with any other
>similar piece of equipment however. Except for using desoldering braid and
>the old solder sucker and soldering iron bit. Hope this helps     Gil  K8EAG


Please tell the reflector more about this device.

I (and several others) have previously expounded upon the benefits of the
Hakko 808 desoldering gun, and I've repeatedly asked the reflector if
anyone had any experience with the Xytronic, but to no avail.

We need to be aware of other options available to us, so please take a
little time and give us a better write-up on the Xytronic desoldering
gun... it looks pretty nifty.

Please consider including info on how well it works on double-sided
(plated-thru hole) boards, how easy it is to clean out, whether it's prone
to clogging, and if so how easy is it to clean out, what size tips are
available for it, what maintenance is required (regularly and.or
periodically), things the user will want to now ahead of time, rather than
when it's too late.

And, of course, IF there are others of you out there who have used this
device, PLEASE take the time to offer your comments to the reflector as well.

Thanks,

Tom Hammond    N0SS

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[Dick Ballard]

I've also had one for several years. It was purchased in 1997. I don't
do a lot of construction or repair, so my use of it is light. I've
used it on plated thru hole boards with no problem. I have not used
any comparable devices, only manual suckers (bad reflux from them). So
I can't compare it to the Hakko.

It is a one shot solenoid operated piston device in a soldering gun
format. It doesn't seem to reflux (splatter solder particles out after
the suck cycle). Cleaning is done with supplied wire cleaners. Solder
is collected in an easily removed cylinder interposed between the
heating head and the sucking device. There is a foam filter in the
tube. A tool is provided for removing the chamber when it is hot so
you can dump the old solder and continue on.

Heating is adjustable but actual temperature numbers are not provided.
I don't think there is any tip temperature sensing, just a solid state
heat control. The tips screw into the heater head. My data sheet shows
0.8mm (0.03in), 1.0mm (0.038in), and 1.2mm (0.046in) sizes available.

It does clog occasionally at the tip, and it requires tinning and
cleaning on the outside of the tip, like any soldering iron, in order
to maintain good thermal contact with the work piece. It is user
serviceable and a parts list and assembly diagram are provided. The
supplied stand would be considered flimsy by many, but I've found it
to be adequate.

I was able to order extra tips shortly after I bought it, but I
haven't had any further contact with the manufacturer/supplier, so I
can't speak to the current support situation.

Dick Ballard
Beaverton OR
W7AND


On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:21:07 -0500, you wrote:

>Gil:
>
>At 03:34 PM 7/26/04, you wrote:
>>Hi, Jim. I've had one of these units for a little over a couple of years
>>and find it to be very sufficient for my needs such as the updates to the
>>Elecraft K2/100 etc. Also the other mods as I have deemed fit to install.
>>Even backed some of them out.I have not had any experience with any other
>>similar piece of equipment however. Except for using desoldering braid and
>>the old solder sucker and soldering iron bit. Hope this helps     Gil  K8EAG
>
>
>Please tell the reflector more about this device.
>
>I (and several others) have previously expounded upon the benefits of the
>Hakko 808 desoldering gun, and I've repeatedly asked the reflector if
>anyone had any experience with the Xytronic, but to no avail.
>
>We need to be aware of other options available to us, so please take a
>little time and give us a better write-up on the Xytronic desoldering
>gun... it looks pretty nifty.
>
>Please consider including info on how well it works on double-sided
>(plated-thru hole) boards, how easy it is to clean out, whether it's prone
>to clogging, and if so how easy is it to clean out, what size tips are
>available for it, what maintenance is required (regularly and.or
>periodically), things the user will want to now ahead of time, rather than
>when it's too late.
>
>And, of course, IF there are others of you out there who have used this
>device, PLEASE take the time to offer your comments to the reflector as well.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tom Hammond    N0SS
>
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[Crossovid]

I had just gotten my papers out for the desolder when I noted Dicks fine
write up. I can only echo what he said and add that my unit came with the 1 mm
tip. I purchased mine from Jameco but in looking at their latest catalog find
that they are no longer listed.     Gil   K8EAG
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[Tom Hammond-3]

Hi Dick:

Thanks so much for this review.

At 03:30 AM 7/27/04, Dick Ballard wrote:
>I've also had one for several years. It was purchased in 1997. I don't
>do a lot of construction or repair, so my use of it is light. I've
>used it on plated thru hole boards with no problem. I have not used
>any comparable devices, only manual suckers (bad reflux from them). So
>I can't compare it to the Hakko.
>
>It is a one shot solenoid operated piston device in a soldering gun
>format.

So... is it truly a one-shot? In other words, when you press the trigger,
does it actuate a piston which (presumably) retracts, ONE TIME, causing a
vacuum which sucks out the solder? Or does it start a small vacuum pump (as
in the Hakko 808) and suck out the solder? Thus, the "One Shot" implying
that it takes only "One Shot" to remove the solder.

>It doesn't seem to reflux (splatter solder particles out after
>the suck cycle). Cleaning is done with supplied wire cleaners. Solder
>is collected in an easily removed cylinder interposed between the
>heating head and the sucking device. There is a foam filter in the
>tube. A tool is provided for removing the chamber when it is hot so
>you can dump the old solder and continue on.

This a very GOOD idea. That's for sure.

>Heating is adjustable but actual temperature numbers are not provided.
>I don't think there is any tip temperature sensing, just a solid state
>heat control.

Do you not feel that the solid staste heat control also senses tip temp?

>The tips screw into the heater head. My data sheet shows 0.8mm (0.03in),
>1.0mm (0.038in), and 1.2mm (0.046in) sizes available.

The largest tip might be a good investment as well... sometimes you have
large(r) lugs (as on board-mounted BNCs) to be removed, and a larger
diameter tip would really come in handy there.

>It does clog occasionally at the tip, and it requires tinning and
>cleaning on the outside of the tip, like any soldering iron, in order
>to maintain good thermal contact with the work piece. It is user
>serviceable and a parts list and assembly diagram are provided. The
>supplied stand would be considered flimsy by many, but I've found it
>to be adequate.

Adequate is probably all that's needed, since it's probably not kept heated
all the time.

>I was able to order extra tips shortly after I bought it, but I
>haven't had any further contact with the manufacturer/supplier, so I
>can't speak to the current support situation.

Your candid review is greatly appreciated!

73,

Tom Hamond    N0SS

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[Robert McGwier]

Wanted: Hakko 808 in perfect condition.  Please send me
price, etc. on first email.

Bob McGwier
N4HY


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