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Yamaha CM500 and ANTIVOX setting

Mike K2MK
I decided to try the CM500 headset in place of the Elecraft Heil Proset headset. I'm always on a quest for increased volume due to age related decreased hearing. To that end I can emphatically say that the CM500 solves my low audio level problem. The CM500 in the rear headphone jack provides greater audio output then the Proset in the rear speaker jack. So far, so good.

I tried the CM500 on SSB today in the 10 meter contest and had occasional VOX tripping when listening to loud signals or loud noise. I'm using the headphones and there is no speaker output. (I even held my breath to be sure my breathing wasn't tripping the VOX). I reduced the VOX GAIN to 17. Any lower and I couldn't always trip it reliably. My ANTIVOX was set at 20 for the Proset so I began to crank it up. It's up to 80 now for the CM500 and appears to have solved the problem.

My other settings are:
RP.L BIAS
MIC GAIN = 10 for 5 to 7 ALC bars
Comp = 20 for 10db CMP

Has anyone else experienced this problem?

73,
Mike K2MK
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Re: Yamaha CM500 and ANTIVOX setting

Jim Brown-10
On 12/11/2010 4:56 PM, Mike K2MK wrote:
> My ANTIVOX was set at 20 for
> the Proset so I began to crank it up. It's up to 80 now for the CM500 and
> appears to have solved the problem.

The mic in the CM500 is a VERY hot mic -- that is, a lot of level. You
may need to reduce both mic gain and level.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [K3] Yamaha CM500 and ANTIVOX setting

k.igor
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I also recently replaced the Heil Proset for CM500, not because of hearing
issues but better comfort in the long contests. I am not a big fan of vox, I
use a foot pedal to PTT the rig. I turned on the vox just to see if I have
same problem as you with CM500. I currently use front panel microphone
connector with homebrew adaptor and I also currently don't use the K3 bias
for the microphone, I still use the AAA battery pack that came with the
headset for the bias. I played with the vox settings so the levels will be
right and sensitivity of vox is correct. It is not difficult to do because
the CM500 microphone is highly directional. Here are my settings at this
point:
MIC is 30
CMP is 20
In the Main menu:
VOX GN is 010
ANTIVOX is 025

With these settings the vox works as it should. Knocking on the desk,
dropping pen on the desk or normal breathing do not trip the vox. I don't
know how loud are the signals you are hearing, my AF gain is at about 9
o'clock position to hear normal signals on 10m. The headset is closing the
ears pretty tight, hard to believe that audio from the headphones is able to
trip the vox.

73,
Igor, N1YX

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I decided to try the CM500 headset in place of the Elecraft Heil Proset
headset. I'm always on a quest for increased volume due to age related
decreased hearing. To that end I can emphatically say that the CM500 solves
my low audio level problem. The CM500 in the rear headphone jack provides
greater audio output then the Proset in the rear speaker jack. So far, so
good.

I tried the CM500 on SSB today in the 10 meter contest and had occasional
VOX tripping when listening to loud signals or loud noise. I'm using the
headphones and there is no speaker output. (I even held my breath to be sure
my breathing wasn't tripping the VOX). I reduced the VOX GAIN to 17. Any
lower and I couldn't always trip it reliably. My ANTIVOX was set at 20 for
the Proset so I began to crank it up. It's up to 80 now for the CM500 and
appears to have solved the problem.

My other settings are:
RP.L BIAS
MIC GAIN = 10 for 5 to 7 ALC bars
Comp = 20 for 10db CMP

Has anyone else experienced this problem?

73,
Mike K2MK
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Re: Yamaha CM500 and ANTIVOX setting

Mike K2MK
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Hi Jim,

I'll have to do some more experimentation with the settings. And I may try using the battery pack for bias as N1YX is doing. Maybe that would have some impact.

73,
Mike K2MK


Jim Brown-10 wrote
The mic in the CM500 is a VERY hot mic -- that is, a lot of level. You
may need to reduce both mic gain and level.

73, Jim K9YC
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Re: Yamaha CM500 and ANTIVOX setting

Jim Brown-10
On 12/12/2010 6:05 AM, Mike K2MK wrote:
> I'll have to do some more experimentation with the settings. And I may try
> using the battery pack for bias as N1YX is doing. Maybe that would have some
> impact.

That should NOT have anything to do with it.  The battery box simply
allows you to not turn on bias. There's no good reason to use the
battery box with a K3.  His settings should be considered a starting
point. Everyone's voice (and way of talking) is a bit different.

73, Jim K9YC


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