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Conway Yee
Continuing my build of the base K2, I have identified two of the missing
designators in the Appendix A, page 1 0.001 and 0.01 capacitors.  C1 and
C2 are 0.001 (102) capacitors as installed on p. 36, right column, 3rd
item. C1, C2 are NOT listed in the Appendix A pages 1-3.

For the 0.001 uF (102) entry, 28 capacitors are in inventory with 22
designators listed.  Specifically C1 and C2 are not listed.  Is there
a list of the remaining capacitors (4) which are 0.001 uF, likely <C37?

After accounting for the Errata, at total of 38 0.01 uF (103) capacitors
are listed.  There are 43 present in inventory the RF board bags for a
total of 5 missing designators.  The last item, C175 is followed by a
comma. Further there is a suggestion of a series of 5 commas above the
first line.  Is there a list of the 5 missing capacitors, likely <C52
or >C175?

Thanks.
Conway Yee, N2JWQ

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Re: base K2 RF board

Don Wilhelm-4
Conway,

Are you telling me that *that* printing error has not been corrected
yet?  The printer chopped off part of the component listing in the parts
list.  Ron (the holder of the documentation) tells me that the master is
correct.  I discovered this a while ago while trying to use the parts
list to locate a misplaced capacitor in a new K2 that I had in here for
repair.  Sorry it has caused you a problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

Conway Yee wrote:

> Continuing my build of the base K2, I have identified two of the missing
> designators in the Appendix A, page 1 0.001 and 0.01 capacitors.  C1 and
> C2 are 0.001 (102) capacitors as installed on p. 36, right column, 3rd
> item. C1, C2 are NOT listed in the Appendix A pages 1-3.
>
> For the 0.001 uF (102) entry, 28 capacitors are in inventory with 22
> designators listed.  Specifically C1 and C2 are not listed.  Is there
> a list of the remaining capacitors (4) which are 0.001 uF, likely <C37?
>
> After accounting for the Errata, at total of 38 0.01 uF (103) capacitors
> are listed.  There are 43 present in inventory the RF board bags for a
> total of 5 missing designators.  The last item, C175 is followed by a
> comma. Further there is a suggestion of a series of 5 commas above the
> first line.  Is there a list of the 5 missing capacitors, likely <C52
> or >C175?
>
> Thanks.
> Conway Yee, N2JWQ
>  
>
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Re: base K2 RF board

Conway Yee
> Does this go back to the older manuals?  I think I used Manual Ver C (no
> 100% certain, though) when I built K2 #1103 -- is it something I should know
> about and check?

Both the rev G manual on the web and the rev G printed manual has the same
problem.

tnx.
Conway Yee


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Re: base K2 RF board

Don Wilhelm-4
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Conway,

 From an earlier manual, there are .001 capacitors on the RF Baord at
C1, C2, C9, C17, C26 and C27 in addition to the ones that do appear in
the manual.
For the list of .01 capacitors, add C52, C53, C55, C58, and C61.  Those
additions should make the numbers right.

The assembly instructions are correct, it is only the parts listing that
has these omissions.  I have been told that it happened due to a
formatting glitch.

73,
Don W3FPR

Conway Yee wrote:

> Continuing my build of the base K2, I have identified two of the missing
> designators in the Appendix A, page 1 0.001 and 0.01 capacitors.  C1 and
> C2 are 0.001 (102) capacitors as installed on p. 36, right column, 3rd
> item. C1, C2 are NOT listed in the Appendix A pages 1-3.
>
> For the 0.001 uF (102) entry, 28 capacitors are in inventory with 22
> designators listed.  Specifically C1 and C2 are not listed.  Is there
> a list of the remaining capacitors (4) which are 0.001 uF, likely <C37?
>
> After accounting for the Errata, at total of 38 0.01 uF (103) capacitors
> are listed.  There are 43 present in inventory the RF board bags for a
> total of 5 missing designators.  The last item, C175 is followed by a
> comma. Further there is a suggestion of a series of 5 commas above the
> first line.  Is there a list of the 5 missing capacitors, likely <C52
> or >C175?
>
> Thanks.
> Conway Yee, N2JWQ
>
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Re: base K2 RF board

Conway Yee
>  From an earlier manual, there are .001 capacitors on the RF Baord at
> C1, C2, C9, C17, C26 and C27 in addition to the ones that do appear in
> the manual.

Thanks. This completes my inventory of 0.001 capacitors.

> For the list of .01 capacitors, add C52, C53, C55, C58, and C61.  Those
> additions should make the numbers right.

This list of 5 capacitors is already in the Errata.  This brings the
inventory to 38 of 43 capacitors.  There are still 5 capacitors missing.
Assuming that only one line was cut off at the top, the remaining
capacitors are missing from the last line (i.e. >C175).  The line
containing C175 is terminated by a comma.

> The assembly instructions are correct, it is only the parts listing that
> has these omissions.  I have been told that it happened due to a
> formatting glitch.

I agree that it is likely an error in the parts listing.  The word
processor likely leaves only a certain amount of space which is exceeded
by having 28, 43 entries.  I prefer LaTeX which calculates ALL of these
entries on the fly, giving much better results.

tnx.
Conway Yee, N2JWQ

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Re: base K2 RF board

Don Wilhelm-4
Conway,

 From the Rev F manual, the bottom of the list of .01 uF capacitors is
C175, C181, C183, C184 and C186.

It looks like the height of the column stayed the same, but the width
was reduced - the number of capacitors per line is greater in the Rev F
manual than in the Rev G.

73,
Don W3FPR

Conway Yee wrote:

>>  From an earlier manual, there are .001 capacitors on the RF Baord at
>> C1, C2, C9, C17, C26 and C27 in addition to the ones that do appear in
>> the manual.
>>    
>
> Thanks. This completes my inventory of 0.001 capacitors.
>
>  
>> For the list of .01 capacitors, add C52, C53, C55, C58, and C61.  Those
>> additions should make the numbers right.
>>    
>
> This list of 5 capacitors is already in the Errata.  This brings the
> inventory to 38 of 43 capacitors.  There are still 5 capacitors missing.
> Assuming that only one line was cut off at the top, the remaining
> capacitors are missing from the last line (i.e. >C175).  The line
> containing C175 is terminated by a comma.
>
>  
>> The assembly instructions are correct, it is only the parts listing that
>> has these omissions.  I have been told that it happened due to a
>> formatting glitch.
>>    
>
> I agree that it is likely an error in the parts listing.  The word
> processor likely leaves only a certain amount of space which is exceeded
> by having 28, 43 entries.  I prefer LaTeX which calculates ALL of these
> entries on the fly, giving much better results.
>
> tnx.
> Conway Yee, N2JWQ
>
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Re: base K2 RF board

Mike Harris
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There was a time, maybe 8-9 years ago when life was thought to be
too short for inventories, many just jumped in and got on with it, I
certainly did.  100% success.

All this chatter about truncated lines is just getting in the way of
building.  And another thing, real men wind torroids ;-)  Unless you
have a medical condition or other disability.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO
K2 #1400 + everything except the battery
K3 #345 loaded

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>>  From an earlier manual, there are .001 capacitors on the RF
>> Baord at
>> C1, C2, C9, C17, C26 and C27 in addition to the ones that do
>> appear in
>> the manual.
>
> Thanks. This completes my inventory of 0.001 capacitors.
>
>> For the list of .01 capacitors, add C52, C53, C55, C58, and C61.
>> Those
>> additions should make the numbers right.
>
> This list of 5 capacitors is already in the Errata.  This brings
> the
> inventory to 38 of 43 capacitors.  There are still 5 capacitors
> missing.
> Assuming that only one line was cut off at the top, the remaining
> capacitors are missing from the last line (i.e. >C175).  The line
> containing C175 is terminated by a comma.
>
>> The assembly instructions are correct, it is only the parts
>> listing that
>> has these omissions.  I have been told that it happened due to a
>> formatting glitch.
>
> I agree that it is likely an error in the parts listing.  The word
> processor likely leaves only a certain amount of space which is
> exceeded
> by having 28, 43 entries.  I prefer LaTeX which calculates ALL of
> these
> entries on the fly, giving much better results.
>
> tnx.
> Conway Yee, N2JWQ

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Conway Yee
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2010, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> It looks like the height of the column stayed the same, but the width
> was reduced - the number of capacitors per line is greater in the Rev F
> manual than in the Rev G.

Taking your hint, I downloaded the Rev D manual. Assuming no signficant
changes in parts in the interim with Rev G, all parts are accounted for!

tnx.
Conway Yee

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Conway Yee
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VP8NO writes:
>There was a time, maybe 8-9 years ago when life was thought to be
>too short for inventories, many just jumped in and got on with it, I
>certainly did.  100% success.

Yes.  I know.  Given the instructions, I figured MOST would just jump in
and start building.  As for me, I prefer to understand the complete
inventory.  To each his own.

I inventory the ENTIRE kit and designate the destination of each
and every part.  I have each part individually taped onto paper.
All inconsistencies MUST be understood before proceeding.  This is how I
worked out that there were two capacitors short on in the control panel
bag and "extra" in the RF bag.  I am also short a few plastic washers.

Before soldering each part, I check its identification AGAIN.

I believe, however, erroneously that this decreases my risk of putting the
wrong part in the wrong location.

>All this chatter about truncated lines is just getting in the way of
>building.

Perhaps but it keeps me sane and keeps my anal nature from getting the
better of me!!

>And another thing, real men wind torroids ;-)  Unless you
>have a medical condition or other disability.

I fully intend to wind my own toroids.  My only "condition" relevant to
ham radio is being a bit too anal :)

tnx.
Conway Yee, N2JWQ

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