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ussv dharma
when adjusting the knob (power level) the value jumps up, down, slow, fast, all over the place.  Sent rig back for upgrade ...came back and this is still a problem...anyone else have this?

 
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Re: control knobs lously

Guy, K2AV
Does this only happen when the rig is keyed, or does it also happen when
you adjust pwr when K3 is in RX mode.  If it ONLY happens when you adjust
AND rig is TX, be sure you aren't suffering from RF in the shack.  RF in
the shack often presents as something totally weird, that doesn't seem to
make any sense.

73, Guy

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Skipper, I believe that can be caused by a bad connection in the antenna
> system changing the load on the amp. That would explain the factory not
> seeing that behavior.
>
> I believe you are using a K3.
>
> Does it do that when connected to a dummy load (use a different
> cable/adapter than you use to connect to your antenna)? Be sure the KAT3
> tuner is bypassed (if you have it).
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> when adjusting the knob (power level) the value jumps up, down, slow, fast,
> all over the place.  Sent rig back for upgrade ...came back and this is
> still a problem...anyone else have this?
>
>
> If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!!
>
> Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM
>
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Re: control knobs lously

ussv dharma
This happens wheb in the rec mode and I adjust the power...course same thing hPPENS WHEN trying to adjust band width.....

 
If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!!
 
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 From: Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]>
To: Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]>
Cc: ussv dharma <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] control knobs lously
 

Does this only happen when the rig is keyed, or does it also happen when you adjust pwr when K3 is in RX mode.  If it ONLY happens when you adjust AND rig is TX, be sure you aren't suffering from RF in the shack.  RF in the shack often presents as something totally weird, that doesn't seem to make any sense. 

73, Guy


On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> wrote:

Skipper, I believe that can be caused by a bad connection in the antenna

>system changing the load on the amp. That would explain the factory not
>seeing that behavior.
>
>I believe you are using a K3.
>
>Does it do that when connected to a dummy load (use a different
>cable/adapter than you use to connect to your antenna)? Be sure the KAT3
>tuner is bypassed (if you have it).
>
>Ron AC7AC
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>when adjusting the knob (power level) the value jumps up, down, slow, fast,
>all over the place.  Sent rig back for upgrade ...came back and this is
>still a problem...anyone else have this?
>

>If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!!

>Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM
>
>
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Re: control knobs lously

Thomas Horsten
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I don't think I have very much RF in the shack, but the little I do have is
enough to make the touch pad on my laptop completely erratic - no other ill
effects observed, is this a common thing? It happens on virtually all
bands/modes, but of course especially noticable on PSK31 and similar when
you tend to use the laptop while transmitting.

73, Thomas M0TRN (and a very merry Christmas to all!)

On 25 December 2011 18:57, Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Does this only happen when the rig is keyed, or does it also happen when
> you adjust pwr when K3 is in RX mode.  If it ONLY happens when you adjust
> AND rig is TX, be sure you aren't suffering from RF in the shack.  RF in
> the shack often presents as something totally weird, that doesn't seem to
> make any sense.
>
> 73, Guy
>
> On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Skipper, I believe that can be caused by a bad connection in the antenna
> > system changing the load on the amp. That would explain the factory not
> > seeing that behavior.
> >
> > I believe you are using a K3.
> >
> > Does it do that when connected to a dummy load (use a different
> > cable/adapter than you use to connect to your antenna)? Be sure the KAT3
> > tuner is bypassed (if you have it).
> >
> > Ron AC7AC
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > when adjusting the knob (power level) the value jumps up, down, slow,
> fast,
> > all over the place.  Sent rig back for upgrade ...came back and this is
> > still a problem...anyone else have this?
> >
> >
> > If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're
> headed!!
> >
> > Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM
> >
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Re: control knobs lously

Guy, K2AV
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Make sure you're running your rig at 13.8 volts.  If you are using a 12
volt supply, and their are some connector issues, you could be having
voltage issues.  This also would be a reason why the trouble would not
appear at Elecraft.  Hit DISP and see what your running voltage is.  Also
make sure you do not have noise/spikes on the supply voltage.

The only thing that the Width control and PWR control have in common is the
multiplexed data bus and the plug/connector off the front panel, and the
supply voltage.  The two encoders on the two different knobs are not likely
to have identical tracking mechanical problems.

So you could have pins on the front panel connectors that need deoxit.  An
encoder event gets multiplexed on the information bus going to the CPU.  If
the voltage was very low to or from the encoder, then the zero/one states
would not be clearly defined and misinterpretation could occur.

Good Luck & 73, Guy

On Sun, Dec 25, 2011 at 5:51 PM, ussv dharma <[hidden email]> wrote:

> This happens wheb in the rec mode and I adjust the power...course same
> thing hPPENS WHEN trying to adjust band width.....
>
> If you don't change direction you WILL arrive exactly where you're headed!!
>
> Susan Meckley, Skipper W7KFI-mm  AFA9SM
>                          USSV DHARMA
>
>
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Re: control knobs lously

Jens Petersen-2
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On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:07:28 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

>when adjusting the knob (power level) the value jumps up,
>down, slow, fast, all over the place.  Sent rig back for upgrade
> ...came back and this is still a problem...anyone else have this?

Same problem here.

If I adjust power very slowly there is no problem, but when adjusting
in normal speed the value is jumping.

No problem with filters and mic gain.
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Re: control knobs lously

Mike Harris
G'day,

Just tried it and I can adjust the power as fast as you like without
problem.

Regards,

Mike VP8NO

On 26/12/2011 07:41, Jens Petersen wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:07:28 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>
>> when adjusting the knob (power level) the value jumps up,
>> down, slow, fast, all over the place.  Sent rig back for upgrade
>> ...came back and this is still a problem...anyone else have this?
>
> Same problem here.
>
> If I adjust power very slowly there is no problem, but when adjusting
> in normal speed the value is jumping.
>
> No problem with filters and mic gain.
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Re: control knobs lously

Joe Subich, W4TV-4
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 > If I adjust power very slowly there is no problem, but when adjusting
 > in normal speed the value is jumping.

Are you using Ham Radio Deluxe and is it trying to reset the power to
its last saved value?

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV


On 12/26/2011 5:41 AM, Jens Petersen wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:07:28 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>
>> when adjusting the knob (power level) the value jumps up,
>> down, slow, fast, all over the place.  Sent rig back for upgrade
>> ...came back and this is still a problem...anyone else have this?
>
> Same problem here.
>
> If I adjust power very slowly there is no problem, but when adjusting
> in normal speed the value is jumping.
>
> No problem with filters and mic gain.
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Re: control knobs Jumpy ( Not Lousy)

N5GE
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No problem with that here, but I think Joe is probably right.  

I used to use HRD, but it DID have a tendency to interfere with the operation of
the K3.  I believe Joe once said several problems are caused by excessive poling
from HRD.

73,
Tom
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On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 11:41:23 +0100, Jens Petersen <[hidden email]> wrote:

>On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:07:28 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
>
>>when adjusting the knob (power level) the value jumps up,
>>down, slow, fast, all over the place.  Sent rig back for upgrade
>> ...came back and this is still a problem...anyone else have this?
>
>Same problem here.
>
>If I adjust power very slowly there is no problem, but when adjusting
>in normal speed the value is jumping.
>
>No problem with filters and mic gain.

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