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James1787
I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask, if not.. I'm sorry. I've
been mulling around the idea of buying a really nice set of paddles.
Not only are some of these a work of art, I imagine some of these keys
have a really nice 'feel' to them. Currently I have my trusty black and
chrome benchers which have worked great for years. I've thinking of
stuff like Begali and the like. I'm a 'try before you buy' type of
person. There's no way I would order an expensive key like that without
trying a few qso's out to see how I like it. What's the best way to do
something like that? I don't know anyone with keys like that. For those
of you that may have something like Begali, how did you find the right
key for you and buy it.. did you try them out? Thanks & 73, James KB2FCV
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Re: high end paddles

michael taylor-3
On 6/7/06, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
...
> chrome benchers which have worked great for years. I've thinking of
> stuff like Begali and the like. I'm a 'try before you buy' type of
> person. There's no way I would order an expensive key like that without
> trying a few qso's out to see how I like it. What's the best way to do
...

I don't know if any dealers of these high-end keys and paddles offer a
money-back trial or not.  Otherwise I suppose you might have to travel
to Dayton next year and visit all the vendors' displays.

I suppose a local club could organize a "key night" to let hams have a
quick try of various straight keys and paddles from their membership's
own shacks.

-Michael Taylor, VE3TIX
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Re: high end paddles

Vic K2VCO
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[hidden email] wrote:

> For those
> of you that may have something like Begali, how did you find the right
> key for you and buy it.. did you try them out?

You really do need to try a key, because once you get away from the
cheaper keys, personal preferences are highly important.  For example,
the distance between the fingerpieces varies, and some are adjustable
and others not.  Personally I like them wide.  Others prefer them much
closer together.

I happen to like a very 'stiff' key, one with very little flex in the
fingerpieces and arm.  So for me, the Begali Classic/Pro/Signature
models or the Kent are good in this respect, because the fingerpieces
are stiff and the pivot is close to them.  The Profi or the Hex Key, on
the other hand, are fine keys, but not as stiff.  I've even replaced the
  stock fingerpieces on a Bencher BY-1 with smaller ones made of thicker
plastic to stiffen it.

So my advice is, don't take any advice on what key is better!  You
really should try as many keys as you can.
--
73,
Vic, K2VCO
Fresno CA
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Re: high end paddles

James1787
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Hi everyone,

Thanks for all the great feedback. There have been alot of great
suggestions out there. Everyone seems to have their preferences -
what's right for one person might be totally wrong for the next. It
sounds like I have a few options based on some great suggestions:
1. Buy something and try it - I can always sell it later
2. Dayton! (I didn't make it out this year but plan on it next year)
3. (this was a great idea) Key/Paddle night at the club - have people
bring in their keys, paddles, etc. Don't forget an oscillator!

I will say I like the workmanship in the Shurr Profi II and the Begali
Signature keys - but who knows.. trying them out I could dislike both
completely and say my benchers are the greatest thing since sliced
bread!

73,

James KB2FCV
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Re: high end paddles

David A. Belsley
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Unfortunately, a quick trial at Dayton is not adequate to determine  
how good a pair of paddles will be for you.  It takes living with  
them for a while -- indeed, it takes a bit of time (several days or  
even much more) simply to get new paddles decently adjusted.  The  
commonplace Bencher BY-1 paddles are really quite mediocre.  They are  
sloppy and inconsistent.  But if you can stand a wide gap and a bit  
of tension, they will work.  If you want very light tension and  
barely perceptible (or even imperceptible) motion, they are nothing  
but frustration.  The Kent are nice, and the Begali are sweet, but  
expensive.  The Hex are a good compromise.  They can be adjusted  
quite finely (although the pitch on the adjustment screws makes this  
more difficult than it need be.)  If you want good stiff paddles,  
little beats the WBLs, but Stan doesn't make them anymore.  Maybe you  
can find a pair on e-Bay.  If you do find a pair, grab them; they are  
nothing short of fantastic.

best wishes,

dave belsley, w1euy


On Jun 7, 2006, at 4:28 PM, michael taylor wrote:

> On 6/7/06, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> ...
>> chrome benchers which have worked great for years. I've thinking of
>> stuff like Begali and the like. I'm a 'try before you buy' type of
>> person. There's no way I would order an expensive key like that  
>> without
>> trying a few qso's out to see how I like it. What's the best way  
>> to do
> ...
>
> I don't know if any dealers of these high-end keys and paddles offer a
> money-back trial or not.  Otherwise I suppose you might have to travel
> to Dayton next year and visit all the vendors' displays.
>
> I suppose a local club could organize a "key night" to let hams have a
> quick try of various straight keys and paddles from their membership's
> own shacks.
>
> -Michael Taylor, VE3TIX
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Re: High end paddles

Joe-aa4nn
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Begali is the choice of many who over the years
have been through those many keys mentioned
in this thread.

The Begali single lever paddle is the best and it
is affordable.  Dual paddles a bit more but worth
the cost.

As for trying a key, when you order a Begali,
order two or three sets of their different finger
pieces... that way you can have the best key
available and finger pieces to match your
preference.

de Joe, aa4nn


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Joe-aa4nn
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Begali is the choice of many who over the years
have been through those many keys mentioned
in this thread.

The Begali single lever paddle is the best and it
is affordable.  Dual paddles a bit more but worth
the cost.

As for trying a key, when you order a Begali,
order two or three sets of their different finger
pieces... that way you can have the best key
available and finger pieces to match your
preference.

de Joe, aa4nn


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Joe-aa4nn
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Begali is the choice of many who over the years
have been through those many keys mentioned
in this thread.

The Begali single lever paddle is the best and it
is affordable.  Dual paddles a bit more but worth
the cost.

As for trying a key, when you order a Begali,
order two or three sets of their different finger
pieces... that way you can have the best key
available and finger pieces to match your
preference.

de Joe, aa4nn


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