k3 STEPPIR 6Meters
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Sent from Mail for Windows 10 If you do not have the added 6 meter element it should be a worthwhile addition. I think it makes the 3 element antenna a 4 element antenna on 6 meters and greatly improves the F/B ratio and adds a small gain. I have not added this to my Yagi, since I seldom have operated on 6 meters, but it looks like it may be possible to add it to the boom from the top of the tower without much trouble since it is not too far out from the mast. At one time I think the cost was less than $100, but probably you could build your own element if you have aluminum scrap antennas. Just an idea, since every dB helps. Rick KL7CW ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 5/1/2021 9:05 PM, Frederick Dwight wrote:
> If you do not have the added 6 meter element it should be a worthwhile addition. I think it makes the 3 element antenna > a 4 element antenna on 6 meters and greatly improves the F/B ratio and adds a small gain. Yes, if you can't afford (or can't rig) a dedicated 6M antenna, the 3-el with the added director is a decent, but not great, antenna. I had a lot fun with it. The 7-el G0KSC LFA I added a year ago is a very nice improvement if you're serious about 6M. :) 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Dear OMs and YLs,I believe if you check online there is a modification to mounting the additional parasitic element possibly even adding yet another which is supposed to greatly improve the three element SteppIR six meter performance over that of the three element with the single parasitic element.As I have a four element SteppIR, this has not been tried here.Worth investigating.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Frederick Dwight <[hidden email]> Date: 02/05/2021 05:08 (GMT+00:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] k3 STEPPIR 6Meters Sent from Mail for Windows 10If you do not have the added 6 meter element it should be a worthwhile addition. I think it makes the 3 element antenna a 4 element antenna on 6 meters and greatly improves the F/B ratio and adds a small gain. I have not added thisto my Yagi, since I seldom have operated on 6 meters, but it looks like it may be possible to add it to the boomfrom the top of the tower without much trouble since it is not too far out from the mast. At one time I think the costwas less than $100, but probably you could build your own element if you have aluminum scrap antennas. Just an idea, since every dB helps. Rick KL7CW______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 2021-05-02 3:59 AM, turnbull wrote:> Dear OMs and YLs,I believe if
you check online there is a > modification to mounting the additional parasitic element possibly > even adding yet another which is supposed to greatly improve the > three element SteppIR six meter performance over that of the three > element with the single parasitic element. That modification is by GM3SEK (about 2015). I believe is was in one of the UK publications. In any case, Doug is correct, the modification adds both a director and reflector turning the 3 element SteppIR into a proper four element yagi on a 12.5 foot boom. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2021-05-02 3:59 AM, turnbull wrote: > Dear OMs and YLs,I believe if you check online there is a modification to mounting the additional parasitic element possibly even adding yet another which is supposed to greatly improve the three element SteppIR six meter performance over that of the three element with the single parasitic element.As I have a four element SteppIR, this has not been tried here.Worth investigating.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Galaxy ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I added the 6M element and wasn't happy with the performance.
I remodelled it and I was able to improve a number of things and posted the measurements on my QRZ page if you are interested. Not only did it model better it performed better and loaded better as the SWR was lower. A bunch of my friends tried it and they were pleased with it as well. In my design, you can make the changes to a steppir on a tower if you can reach your passive 6M element. You don't have to order any parts to make this work. This was for the 3EL Steppir. Mike va3mw On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 8:42 AM Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 2021-05-02 3:59 AM, turnbull wrote:> Dear OMs and YLs,I believe if > you check online there is a > > modification to mounting the additional parasitic element possibly > > even adding yet another which is supposed to greatly improve the > > three element SteppIR six meter performance over that of the three > > element with the single parasitic element. > That modification is by GM3SEK (about 2015). I believe is was in one > of the UK publications. In any case, Doug is correct, the modification > adds both a director and reflector turning the 3 element SteppIR into > a proper four element yagi on a 12.5 foot boom. > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > On 2021-05-02 3:59 AM, turnbull wrote: > > Dear OMs and YLs,I believe if you check online there is a modification > to mounting the additional parasitic element possibly even adding yet > another which is supposed to greatly improve the three element SteppIR six > meter performance over that of the three element with the single parasitic > element.As I have a four element SteppIR, this has not been tried > here.Worth investigating.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Galaxy > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: k3 STEPPIR 6Meters
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There is always an ongoing discussion about this in the SteppIR forum on
groups.io. The key to making the SteppIR antennas anything more than pathetic on 6M is adding a fixed reflector. Some in the group have modeled and developed 6M antennas on the same boom that rival commercial monobanders on the same length using only the original driven element as being adjustable. Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV Sent: Sunday, May 2, 2021 7:42 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 STEPPIR 6Meters On 2021-05-02 3:59 AM, turnbull wrote:> Dear OMs and YLs,I believe if you check online there is a > modification to mounting the additional parasitic element possibly > even adding yet another which is supposed to greatly improve the three > element SteppIR six meter performance over that of the three element > with the single parasitic element. That modification is by GM3SEK (about 2015). I believe is was in one of the UK publications. In any case, Doug is correct, the modification adds both a director and reflector turning the 3 element SteppIR into a proper four element yagi on a 12.5 foot boom. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2021-05-02 3:59 AM, turnbull wrote: > Dear OMs and YLs,I believe if you check online there is a modification > to mounting the additional parasitic element possibly even adding yet > another which is supposed to greatly improve the three element SteppIR > six meter performance over that of the three element with the single > parasitic element.As I have a four element SteppIR, this has not been > tried here.Worth investigating.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Galaxy ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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> In my design, you can make the changes to a steppir on a tower if you > can reach your passive 6M element. You don't have to order any > parts to make this work. The GM3SEK modification can also be made "on the tower" as both the new elements are less than 4 feet from the mast. Ian spent considerable time modelling and working on an element mounting system to provide stable operation with changing weather. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2021-05-02 10:42 AM, Michael Walker wrote: > I added the 6M element and wasn't happy with the performance. > > I remodelled it and I was able to improve a number of things and posted the > measurements on my QRZ page if you are interested. > > Not only did it model better it performed better and loaded better as the > SWR was lower. A bunch of my friends tried it and they were pleased with > it as well. > > In my design, you can make the changes to a steppir on a tower if you can > reach your passive 6M element. You don't have to order any parts to make > this work. > > This was for the 3EL Steppir. > > Mike va3mw > > > On Sun, May 2, 2021 at 8:42 AM Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> On 2021-05-02 3:59 AM, turnbull wrote:> Dear OMs and YLs,I believe if >> you check online there is a >>> modification to mounting the additional parasitic element possibly >>> even adding yet another which is supposed to greatly improve the >>> three element SteppIR six meter performance over that of the three >>> element with the single parasitic element. >> That modification is by GM3SEK (about 2015). I believe is was in one >> of the UK publications. In any case, Doug is correct, the modification >> adds both a director and reflector turning the 3 element SteppIR into >> a proper four element yagi on a 12.5 foot boom. >> >> 73, >> >> ... Joe, W4TV >> >> >> On 2021-05-02 3:59 AM, turnbull wrote: >>> Dear OMs and YLs,I believe if you check online there is a modification >> to mounting the additional parasitic element possibly even adding yet >> another which is supposed to greatly improve the three element SteppIR six >> meter performance over that of the three element with the single parasitic >> element.As I have a four element SteppIR, this has not been tried >> here.Worth investigating.73 Doug EI2CNSent from my Galaxy >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 5/2/2021 5:42 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> That modification is by GM3SEK (about 2015). Yes, I remember that, and it looked good. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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