Hello all,
Yesterday I was running some FT8 on 17 meters. All of a sudden I noticed there was no output out of the amplifier. Then looked at the radio it had the red XMIT light on and two dash marks in place of SWR and said 0 Watts out. So disconnected every thing except power and antenna switched antenna switch to dummy and get the same thing on any band. Of course when you depress The XMIT button it switches to CW. But I did hook a Mic up. With the mic hooked up I got the red XMIT led with ALC on the display I would see the ALC change as I was talking in the MIC. But when I switch over to the display that shows RF out there is no indication of RF. Is this something other people have had. I realize it could most likely be multiple different thing but would these indications narrow it down to a section of the radio like maybe the 100 watt amp. Or something like that. Thanks for all advice in advance Joe AB3JN Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
I have been having the same problem lately. Quitting and restarting WSJT-X
sometimes helps and once in a while I have found that Win10 has changed the audio settings from the KIO3B to the internal sound card. This seemed to start after a Win10 upgrade. On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 07:32 Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hello all, > Yesterday I was running some FT8 on 17 meters. All of a sudden I noticed > there was no output out of the amplifier. Then looked at the radio it had > the red XMIT light on and two dash marks in place of SWR and said 0 Watts > out. So disconnected every thing except power and antenna switched antenna > switch to dummy and get the same thing on any band. Of course when you > depress The XMIT button it switches to CW. But I did hook a Mic up. With > the mic hooked up I got the red XMIT led with ALC on the display I would > see the ALC change as I was talking in the MIC. But when I switch over to > the display that shows RF out there is no indication of RF. Is this > something other people have had. I realize it could most likely be multiple > different thing but would these indications narrow it down to a section of > the radio like maybe the 100 watt amp. Or something like that. > > Thanks for all advice in advance > Joe AB3JN > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for > Windows 10 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Just to cover the bases, make sure you're not in transmit test mode.
73 Bill AE6JV On 12/4/20 at 8:32 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: >Yesterday I was running some FT8 on 17 meters. All of a sudden >I noticed there was no output out of the amplifier. Then looked >at the radio it had the red XMIT light on and two dash marks in >place of SWR and said 0 Watts out. So disconnected every thing >except power and antenna switched antenna switch to dummy and >get the same thing on any band. Of course when you depress The >XMIT button it switches to CW. But I did hook a Mic up. With >the mic hooked up I got the red XMIT led with ALC on the >display I would see the ALC change as I was talking in the MIC. >But when I switch over to the display that shows RF out there >is no indication of RF. Is this something other people have >had. I realize it could most likely be multiple different thing >but would these indications narrow it down to a section of the >radio like maybe the 100 watt amp. Or something like that. > >Thanks for all advice in advance >Joe AB3JN Bill Frantz | The first thing you need when | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | using a perimeter defense is a | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com | perimeter. | Peterborough, NH 03458 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
I have tried test mode everything looks normal in test mode. When not in test tried with wsjt-x through a signal link as I had been using it for months on 1o,12,15,17,20,and 40 meters. I was using it and everything was fine. Until about 10:00 yesterday. Checked so cables between te radio and amp. Then I realized I did not have even the drive to the amp. Absolutely 0 watts. I was driving the amp with about 8 watts. Then I decided to make sure nothing external was affecting the radio so I disconnected everything except power and antenna cable to wattmeter and dummy. Still zero. When you depress the XMIT button on the radio it switches automatically to CW and transmits a carrier normally. It switches to cw but still no RF out . Displays dashes for SWR and 0 watts. Hooked a mike up changed settings. I can see the ALC change but still nothing out. Tried high power a day low so it is in the drive I believe as the 100 watt amp is the same results as the 10 watt.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 10:32:46 AM To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit Just to cover the bases, make sure you're not in transmit test mode. 73 Bill AE6JV On 12/4/20 at 8:32 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: >Yesterday I was running some FT8 on 17 meters. All of a sudden >I noticed there was no output out of the amplifier. Then looked >at the radio it had the red XMIT light on and two dash marks in >place of SWR and said 0 Watts out. So disconnected every thing >except power and antenna switched antenna switch to dummy and >get the same thing on any band. Of course when you depress The >XMIT button it switches to CW. But I did hook a Mic up. With >the mic hooked up I got the red XMIT led with ALC on the >display I would see the ALC change as I was talking in the MIC. >But when I switch over to the display that shows RF out there >is no indication of RF. Is this something other people have >had. I realize it could most likely be multiple different thing >but would these indications narrow it down to a section of the >radio like maybe the 100 watt amp. Or something like that. > >Thanks for all advice in advance >Joe AB3JN Bill Frantz | The first thing you need when | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | using a perimeter defense is a | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com<http://www.pwpconsult.com> | perimeter. | Peterborough, NH 03458 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
If you are in CW mode, you will need to use some form of CW key
to create output. (Without a key down, zero output is normal.) A key plugged into the radio will work fine. You can also play back a CW memory (that has something in it), to produce output. I'm away from my K3, but I think you can produce output by putting it in Data->FSK-D or Data->PSK-D might also work. Using TUNE on the radio is another way for force output. When using wsjt-x, you should be able to hear the audio signal from the computer via the Monitor function. You should hear the audio after turning the monitor level up a bit. If you can hear audio getting to the radio, then another worthwhile test is to try 5-10 watts output. This will use the low power amplifier in the radio, skipping the 100W amp. Good luck - Bill, AE6JV On 12/4/20 at 11:55 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: >I have tried test mode everything looks normal in test mode. >When not in test tried with wsjt-x through a signal link as I >had been using it for months on 1o,12,15,17,20,and 40 meters. I >was using it and everything was fine. Until about 10:00 >yesterday. Checked so cables between te radio and amp. Then I >realized I did not have even the drive to the amp. Absolutely >0 watts. I was driving the amp with about 8 watts. Then I >decided to make sure nothing external was affecting the radio >so I disconnected everything except power and antenna cable >to wattmeter and dummy. Still zero. When you depress the XMIT >button on the radio it switches automatically to CW and >transmits a carrier normally. It switches to cw but still no >RF out . Displays dashes for SWR and 0 watts. Hooked a mike up >changed settings. I can see the ALC change but still nothing >out. Tried high power a day low so it is in the drive I >believe as the 100 watt amp is the same results as the 10 watt. > >Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > >________________________________ >From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> >Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 10:32:46 AM >To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> >Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit > >Just to cover the bases, make sure you're not in transmit test mode. > >73 Bill AE6JV > >On 12/4/20 at 8:32 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: > >>Yesterday I was running some FT8 on 17 meters. All of a sudden >>I noticed there was no output out of the amplifier. Then looked >>at the radio it had the red XMIT light on and two dash marks in >>place of SWR and said 0 Watts out. So disconnected every thing >>except power and antenna switched antenna switch to dummy and >>get the same thing on any band. Of course when you depress The >>XMIT button it switches to CW. But I did hook a Mic up. With >>the mic hooked up I got the red XMIT led with ALC on the >>display I would see the ALC change as I was talking in the MIC. >>But when I switch over to the display that shows RF out there >>is no indication of RF. Is this something other people have >>had. I realize it could most likely be multiple different thing >>but would these indications narrow it down to a section of the >>radio like maybe the 100 watt amp. Or something like that. >> >>Thanks for all advice in advance >>Joe AB3JN -------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | There are now so many exceptions to the 408-348-7900 | Fourth Amendment that it operates only by www.pwpconsult.com | accident. - William Hugh Murray ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
I am using the XMIT which produces a cw output just like tune but you can adjust the power.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 11:33:34 AM To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit If you are in CW mode, you will need to use some form of CW key to create output. (Without a key down, zero output is normal.) A key plugged into the radio will work fine. You can also play back a CW memory (that has something in it), to produce output. I'm away from my K3, but I think you can produce output by putting it in Data->FSK-D or Data->PSK-D might also work. Using TUNE on the radio is another way for force output. When using wsjt-x, you should be able to hear the audio signal from the computer via the Monitor function. You should hear the audio after turning the monitor level up a bit. If you can hear audio getting to the radio, then another worthwhile test is to try 5-10 watts output. This will use the low power amplifier in the radio, skipping the 100W amp. Good luck - Bill, AE6JV On 12/4/20 at 11:55 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: >I have tried test mode everything looks normal in test mode. >When not in test tried with wsjt-x through a signal link as I >had been using it for months on 1o,12,15,17,20,and 40 meters. I >was using it and everything was fine. Until about 10:00 >yesterday. Checked so cables between te radio and amp. Then I >realized I did not have even the drive to the amp. Absolutely >0 watts. I was driving the amp with about 8 watts. Then I >decided to make sure nothing external was affecting the radio >so I disconnected everything except power and antenna cable >to wattmeter and dummy. Still zero. When you depress the XMIT >button on the radio it switches automatically to CW and >transmits a carrier normally. It switches to cw but still no >RF out . Displays dashes for SWR and 0 watts. Hooked a mike up >changed settings. I can see the ALC change but still nothing >out. Tried high power a day low so it is in the drive I >believe as the 100 watt amp is the same results as the 10 watt. > >Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > >________________________________ >From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> >Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 10:32:46 AM >To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> >Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit > >Just to cover the bases, make sure you're not in transmit test mode. > >73 Bill AE6JV > >On 12/4/20 at 8:32 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: > >>Yesterday I was running some FT8 on 17 meters. All of a sudden >>I noticed there was no output out of the amplifier. Then looked >>at the radio it had the red XMIT light on and two dash marks in >>place of SWR and said 0 Watts out. So disconnected every thing >>except power and antenna switched antenna switch to dummy and >>get the same thing on any band. Of course when you depress The >>XMIT button it switches to CW. But I did hook a Mic up. With >>the mic hooked up I got the red XMIT led with ALC on the >>display I would see the ALC change as I was talking in the MIC. >>But when I switch over to the display that shows RF out there >>is no indication of RF. Is this something other people have >>had. I realize it could most likely be multiple different thing >>but would these indications narrow it down to a section of the >>radio like maybe the 100 watt amp. Or something like that. >> >>Thanks for all advice in advance >>Joe AB3JN -------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | There are now so many exceptions to the 408-348-7900 | Fourth Amendment that it operates only by www.pwpconsult.com<http://www.pwpconsult.com> | accident. - William Hugh Murray ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Tune only works with an atu
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 12:04:39 PM To: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit I am using the XMIT which produces a cw output just like tune but you can adjust the power. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 11:33:34 AM To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit If you are in CW mode, you will need to use some form of CW key to create output. (Without a key down, zero output is normal.) A key plugged into the radio will work fine. You can also play back a CW memory (that has something in it), to produce output. I'm away from my K3, but I think you can produce output by putting it in Data->FSK-D or Data->PSK-D might also work. Using TUNE on the radio is another way for force output. When using wsjt-x, you should be able to hear the audio signal from the computer via the Monitor function. You should hear the audio after turning the monitor level up a bit. If you can hear audio getting to the radio, then another worthwhile test is to try 5-10 watts output. This will use the low power amplifier in the radio, skipping the 100W amp. Good luck - Bill, AE6JV On 12/4/20 at 11:55 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: >I have tried test mode everything looks normal in test mode. >When not in test tried with wsjt-x through a signal link as I >had been using it for months on 1o,12,15,17,20,and 40 meters. I >was using it and everything was fine. Until about 10:00 >yesterday. Checked so cables between te radio and amp. Then I >realized I did not have even the drive to the amp. Absolutely >0 watts. I was driving the amp with about 8 watts. Then I >decided to make sure nothing external was affecting the radio >so I disconnected everything except power and antenna cable >to wattmeter and dummy. Still zero. When you depress the XMIT >button on the radio it switches automatically to CW and >transmits a carrier normally. It switches to cw but still no >RF out . Displays dashes for SWR and 0 watts. Hooked a mike up >changed settings. I can see the ALC change but still nothing >out. Tried high power a day low so it is in the drive I >believe as the 100 watt amp is the same results as the 10 watt. > >Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > >________________________________ >From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> >Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 10:32:46 AM >To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> >Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit > >Just to cover the bases, make sure you're not in transmit test mode. > >73 Bill AE6JV > >On 12/4/20 at 8:32 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: > >>Yesterday I was running some FT8 on 17 meters. All of a sudden >>I noticed there was no output out of the amplifier. Then looked >>at the radio it had the red XMIT light on and two dash marks in >>place of SWR and said 0 Watts out. So disconnected every thing >>except power and antenna switched antenna switch to dummy and >>get the same thing on any band. Of course when you depress The >>XMIT button it switches to CW. But I did hook a Mic up. With >>the mic hooked up I got the red XMIT led with ALC on the >>display I would see the ALC change as I was talking in the MIC. >>But when I switch over to the display that shows RF out there >>is no indication of RF. Is this something other people have >>had. I realize it could most likely be multiple different thing >>but would these indications narrow it down to a section of the >>radio like maybe the 100 watt amp. Or something like that. >> >>Thanks for all advice in advance >>Joe AB3JN -------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | There are now so many exceptions to the 408-348-7900 | Fourth Amendment that it operates only by www.pwpconsult.com<http://www.pwpconsult.com> | accident. - William Hugh Murray ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Joe,
The XMIT button does not produce any RF nor switch the mode. It is like a front panel PTT switch, but tap on and tap off. If you do a TUNE (hold the button for 2 seconds), it will go to CW mode and produce output (no key needed). 73, Don W3FPR On 12/4/2020 8:32 AM, Joseph McIntire wrote: > Hello all, > Yesterday I was running some FT8 on 17 meters. All of a sudden I noticed there was no output out of the amplifier. Then looked at the radio it had the red XMIT light on and two dash marks in place of SWR and said 0 Watts out. So disconnected every thing except power and antenna switched antenna switch to dummy and get the same thing on any band. Of course when you depress The XMIT button it switches to CW. But I did hook a Mic up. With the mic hooked up I got the red XMIT led with ALC on the display I would see the ALC change as I was talking in the MIC. But when I switch over to the display that shows RF out there is no indication of RF. Is this something other people have had. I realize it could most likely be multiple different thing but would these indications narrow it down to a section of the radio like maybe the 100 watt amp. Or something like that. > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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You've made a mistake, a long XMIT (TUN) press is for applying a small
amount of output, to match with the antenna (or check the SWR). ATU TUN (ATU) applies power to the internal tuner, if any, if enabled. Two different functions. 73, Rick NK7I On 12/4/2020 10:06 AM, Joseph McIntire wrote: > Tune only works with an atu > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > ________________________________ > From: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 12:04:39 PM > To: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit > > I am using the XMIT which produces a cw output just like tune but you can adjust the power. > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > ________________________________ > From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 11:33:34 AM > To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit > > If you are in CW mode, you will need to use some form of CW key > to create output. (Without a key down, zero output is normal.) A > key plugged into the radio will work fine. You can also play > back a CW memory (that has something in it), to produce output. > > I'm away from my K3, but I think you can produce output by > putting it in Data->FSK-D or Data->PSK-D might also work. > > Using TUNE on the radio is another way for force output. > > When using wsjt-x, you should be able to hear the audio signal > from the computer via the Monitor function. You should hear the > audio after turning the monitor level up a bit. > > If you can hear audio getting to the radio, then another > worthwhile test is to try 5-10 watts output. This will use the > low power amplifier in the radio, skipping the 100W amp. > > Good luck - Bill, AE6JV > > On 12/4/20 at 11:55 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: > >> I have tried test mode everything looks normal in test mode. >> When not in test tried with wsjt-x through a signal link as I >> had been using it for months on 1o,12,15,17,20,and 40 meters. I >> was using it and everything was fine. Until about 10:00 >> yesterday. Checked so cables between te radio and amp. Then I >> realized I did not have even the drive to the amp. Absolutely >> 0 watts. I was driving the amp with about 8 watts. Then I >> decided to make sure nothing external was affecting the radio >> so I disconnected everything except power and antenna cable >> to wattmeter and dummy. Still zero. When you depress the XMIT >> button on the radio it switches automatically to CW and >> transmits a carrier normally. It switches to cw but still no >> RF out . Displays dashes for SWR and 0 watts. Hooked a mike up >> changed settings. I can see the ALC change but still nothing >> out. Tried high power a day low so it is in the drive I >> believe as the 100 watt amp is the same results as the 10 watt. >> >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone >> Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 10:32:46 AM >> To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> >> Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit >> >> Just to cover the bases, make sure you're not in transmit test mode. >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> On 12/4/20 at 8:32 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: >> >>> Yesterday I was running some FT8 on 17 meters. All of a sudden >>> I noticed there was no output out of the amplifier. Then looked >>> at the radio it had the red XMIT light on and two dash marks in >>> place of SWR and said 0 Watts out. So disconnected every thing >>> except power and antenna switched antenna switch to dummy and >>> get the same thing on any band. Of course when you depress The >>> XMIT button it switches to CW. But I did hook a Mic up. With >>> the mic hooked up I got the red XMIT led with ALC on the >>> display I would see the ALC change as I was talking in the MIC. >>> But when I switch over to the display that shows RF out there >>> is no indication of RF. Is this something other people have >>> had. I realize it could most likely be multiple different thing >>> but would these indications narrow it down to a section of the >>> radio like maybe the 100 watt amp. Or something like that. >>> >>> Thanks for all advice in advance >>> Joe AB3JN > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | There are now so many exceptions to the > 408-348-7900 | Fourth Amendment that it operates only by > www.pwpconsult.com<http://www.pwpconsult.com> | accident. - William Hugh Murray > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Not so. TUNE produces a tuning signal, power set by the user. Used for
many things eg. tuning linear, external ATU. ATU TUNE works with internal ATU. XMIT puts the K3 into TX without any output until you either key or apply audio, be it speech or audio output from the PC. Regards, Mike VP8NO On 04/12/2020 15:06, Joseph McIntire wrote: > Tune only works with an atu > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > ________________________________ > From: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 12:04:39 PM > To: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit > > I am using the XMIT which produces a cw output just like tune but you can adjust the power. Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I concur with this statement.
For instance, SGC makes "smartuners" that can be remotely mounted from your transceiver. These tuners work automatically to tune the antenna when a transmission occurs. The long press on the XMIT button function transmits a low power continuous tune sufficient to activate the SGC tuner's tuning function. The ATU tune works with the internal tuner. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Rick NK7I Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 10:15 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit You've made a mistake, a long XMIT (TUN) press is for applying a small amount of output, to match with the antenna (or check the SWR). ATU TUN (ATU) applies power to the internal tuner, if any, if enabled. Two different functions. 73, Rick NK7I On 12/4/2020 10:06 AM, Joseph McIntire wrote: > Tune only works with an atu > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for > Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > ________________________________ > From: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 12:04:39 PM > To: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit > > I am using the XMIT which produces a cw output just like tune but you can adjust the power. > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for > Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > ________________________________ > From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 11:33:34 AM > To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit > > If you are in CW mode, you will need to use some form of CW key to > create output. (Without a key down, zero output is normal.) A key > plugged into the radio will work fine. You can also play back a CW > memory (that has something in it), to produce output. > > I'm away from my K3, but I think you can produce output by putting it > in Data->FSK-D or Data->PSK-D might also work. > > Using TUNE on the radio is another way for force output. > > When using wsjt-x, you should be able to hear the audio signal from > the computer via the Monitor function. You should hear the audio after > turning the monitor level up a bit. > > If you can hear audio getting to the radio, then another worthwhile > test is to try 5-10 watts output. This will use the low power > amplifier in the radio, skipping the 100W amp. > > Good luck - Bill, AE6JV > > On 12/4/20 at 11:55 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: > >> I have tried test mode everything looks normal in test mode. >> When not in test tried with wsjt-x through a signal link as I had >> been using it for months on 1o,12,15,17,20,and 40 meters. I was using >> it and everything was fine. Until about 10:00 yesterday. Checked so >> cables between te radio and amp. Then I realized I did not have even >> the drive to the amp. Absolutely >> 0 watts. I was driving the amp with about 8 watts. Then I decided to >> make sure nothing external was affecting the radio so I disconnected >> everything except power and antenna cable to wattmeter and dummy. >> Still zero. When you depress the XMIT button on the radio it switches >> automatically to CW and transmits a carrier normally. It switches to >> cw but still no RF out . Displays dashes for SWR and 0 watts. Hooked >> a mike up changed settings. I can see the ALC change but still >> nothing >> out. Tried high power a day low so it is in the drive I >> believe as the 100 watt amp is the same results as the 10 watt. >> >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for >> Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 10:32:46 AM >> To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> >> Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit >> >> Just to cover the bases, make sure you're not in transmit test mode. >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> On 12/4/20 at 8:32 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: >> >>> Yesterday I was running some FT8 on 17 meters. All of a sudden I >>> noticed there was no output out of the amplifier. Then looked at the >>> radio it had the red XMIT light on and two dash marks in place of >>> SWR and said 0 Watts out. So disconnected every thing except power >>> and antenna switched antenna switch to dummy and get the same thing >>> on any band. Of course when you depress The XMIT button it switches >>> to CW. But I did hook a Mic up. With the mic hooked up I got the red >>> XMIT led with ALC on the display I would see the ALC change as I was >>> talking in the MIC. >>> But when I switch over to the display that shows RF out there is no >>> indication of RF. Is this something other people have had. I realize >>> it could most likely be multiple different thing but would these >>> indications narrow it down to a section of the radio like maybe the >>> 100 watt amp. Or something like that. >>> >>> Thanks for all advice in advance >>> Joe AB3JN > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | There are now so many exceptions to the > 408-348-7900 | Fourth Amendment that it operates only by > www.pwpconsult.com<http://www.pwpconsult.com> | accident. - William > Hugh Murray > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Well I am holding it for a half sec so call it tune or transmit but it does send a carrier that power can be adjusted I use it all the time to tune my antenna to the amp for the freq. I am on.
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> on behalf of George Thornton <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 12:26:36 PM To: Rick NK7I <[hidden email]>; [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit I concur with this statement. For instance, SGC makes "smartuners" that can be remotely mounted from your transceiver. These tuners work automatically to tune the antenna when a transmission occurs. The long press on the XMIT button function transmits a low power continuous tune sufficient to activate the SGC tuner's tuning function. The ATU tune works with the internal tuner. -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> On Behalf Of Rick NK7I Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 10:15 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit You've made a mistake, a long XMIT (TUN) press is for applying a small amount of output, to match with the antenna (or check the SWR). ATU TUN (ATU) applies power to the internal tuner, if any, if enabled. Two different functions. 73, Rick NK7I On 12/4/2020 10:06 AM, Joseph McIntire wrote: > Tune only works with an atu > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for > Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > ________________________________ > From: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 12:04:39 PM > To: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit > > I am using the XMIT which produces a cw output just like tune but you can adjust the power. > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for > Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > ________________________________ > From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 11:33:34 AM > To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit > > If you are in CW mode, you will need to use some form of CW key to > create output. (Without a key down, zero output is normal.) A key > plugged into the radio will work fine. You can also play back a CW > memory (that has something in it), to produce output. > > I'm away from my K3, but I think you can produce output by putting it > in Data->FSK-D or Data->PSK-D might also work. > > Using TUNE on the radio is another way for force output. > > When using wsjt-x, you should be able to hear the audio signal from > the computer via the Monitor function. You should hear the audio after > turning the monitor level up a bit. > > If you can hear audio getting to the radio, then another worthwhile > test is to try 5-10 watts output. This will use the low power > amplifier in the radio, skipping the 100W amp. > > Good luck - Bill, AE6JV > > On 12/4/20 at 11:55 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: > >> I have tried test mode everything looks normal in test mode. >> When not in test tried with wsjt-x through a signal link as I had >> been using it for months on 1o,12,15,17,20,and 40 meters. I was using >> it and everything was fine. Until about 10:00 yesterday. Checked so >> cables between te radio and amp. Then I realized I did not have even >> the drive to the amp. Absolutely >> 0 watts. I was driving the amp with about 8 watts. Then I decided to >> make sure nothing external was affecting the radio so I disconnected >> everything except power and antenna cable to wattmeter and dummy. >> Still zero. When you depress the XMIT button on the radio it switches >> automatically to CW and transmits a carrier normally. It switches to >> cw but still no RF out . Displays dashes for SWR and 0 watts. Hooked >> a mike up changed settings. I can see the ALC change but still >> nothing >> out. Tried high power a day low so it is in the drive I >> believe as the 100 watt amp is the same results as the 10 watt. >> >> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for >> Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 10:32:46 AM >> To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> >> Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit >> >> Just to cover the bases, make sure you're not in transmit test mode. >> >> 73 Bill AE6JV >> >> On 12/4/20 at 8:32 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: >> >>> Yesterday I was running some FT8 on 17 meters. All of a sudden I >>> noticed there was no output out of the amplifier. Then looked at the >>> radio it had the red XMIT light on and two dash marks in place of >>> SWR and said 0 Watts out. So disconnected every thing except power >>> and antenna switched antenna switch to dummy and get the same thing >>> on any band. Of course when you depress The XMIT button it switches >>> to CW. But I did hook a Mic up. With the mic hooked up I got the red >>> XMIT led with ALC on the display I would see the ALC change as I was >>> talking in the MIC. >>> But when I switch over to the display that shows RF out there is no >>> indication of RF. Is this something other people have had. I realize >>> it could most likely be multiple different thing but would these >>> indications narrow it down to a section of the radio like maybe the >>> 100 watt amp. Or something like that. >>> >>> Thanks for all advice in advance >>> Joe AB3JN > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | There are now so many exceptions to the > 408-348-7900 | Fourth Amendment that it operates only by > www.pwpconsult.com<http://www.pwpconsult.com> | accident. - William > Hugh Murray > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email > list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to > [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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When you press XMIT it doesn't switch to CW. It switches to transmit. It is
the same as pushing a PTT line. If you press and hold XMIT, you go in to TUNE, which will transmit a carrier based upon what you have set for TUNE PWR. If that is set to NOR then your power out is set to whatever the power knob setting is. If TUNE PWR is set to 8 watts, then you will have 8 watts in tune mode. On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:57 Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> wrote: > I have tried test mode everything looks normal in test mode. When not in > test tried with wsjt-x through a signal link as I had been using it for > months on 1o,12,15,17,20,and 40 meters. I was using it and everything was > fine. Until about 10:00 yesterday. Checked so cables between te radio and > amp. Then I realized I did not have even the drive to the amp. Absolutely > 0 watts. I was driving the amp with about 8 watts. Then I decided to make > sure nothing external was affecting the radio so I disconnected everything > except power and antenna cable to wattmeter and dummy. Still zero. When > you depress the XMIT button on the radio it switches automatically to CW > and transmits a carrier normally. It switches to cw but still no RF out . > Displays dashes for SWR and 0 watts. Hooked a mike up changed settings. I > can see the ALC change but still nothing out. Tried high power a day low > so it is in the drive I believe as the 100 watt amp is the same > results as the 10 watt. > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> > > ________________________________ > From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]> > Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 10:32:46 AM > To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> > Cc: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit > > Just to cover the bases, make sure you're not in transmit test mode. > > 73 Bill AE6JV > > On 12/4/20 at 8:32 AM, [hidden email] (Joseph McIntire) wrote: > > >Yesterday I was running some FT8 on 17 meters. All of a sudden > >I noticed there was no output out of the amplifier. Then looked > >at the radio it had the red XMIT light on and two dash marks in > >place of SWR and said 0 Watts out. So disconnected every thing > >except power and antenna switched antenna switch to dummy and > >get the same thing on any band. Of course when you depress The > >XMIT button it switches to CW. But I did hook a Mic up. With > >the mic hooked up I got the red XMIT led with ALC on the > >display I would see the ALC change as I was talking in the MIC. > >But when I switch over to the display that shows RF out there > >is no indication of RF. Is this something other people have > >had. I realize it could most likely be multiple different thing > >but would these indications narrow it down to a section of the > >radio like maybe the 100 watt amp. Or something like that. > > > >Thanks for all advice in advance > >Joe AB3JN > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Bill Frantz | The first thing you need when | Periwinkle > (408)348-7900 | using a perimeter defense is a | 150 > Rivermead Rd #235 > www.pwpconsult.com<http://www.pwpconsult.com> | perimeter. > | > Peterborough, NH 03458 > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Yes that is right when I hold it with power set to 8 watts I get nothing out the display gives two dashes for SWR and says 0 watts
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: Ed K1EP <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 1:16:23 PM To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]> Cc: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]>; Elecraft Mailing List <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit When you press XMIT it doesn't switch to CW. It switches to transmit. It is the same as pushing a PTT line. If you press and hold XMIT, you go in to TUNE, which will transmit a carrier based upon what you have set for TUNE PWR. If that is set to NOR then your power out is set to whatever the power knob setting is. If TUNE PWR is set to 8 watts, then you will have 8 watts in tune mode. On Fri, Dec 4, 2020, 11:57 Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: I have tried test mode everything looks normal in test mode. When not in test tried with wsjt-x through a signal link as I had been using it for months on 1o,12,15,17,20,and 40 meters. I was using it and everything was fine. Until about 10:00 yesterday. Checked so cables between te radio and amp. Then I realized I did not have even the drive to the amp. Absolutely 0 watts. I was driving the amp with about 8 watts. Then I decided to make sure nothing external was affecting the radio so I disconnected everything except power and antenna cable to wattmeter and dummy. Still zero. When you depress the XMIT button on the radio it switches automatically to CW and transmits a carrier normally. It switches to cw but still no RF out . Displays dashes for SWR and 0 watts. Hooked a mike up changed settings. I can see the ALC change but still nothing out. Tried high power a day low so it is in the drive I believe as the 100 watt amp is the same results as the 10 watt. Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/ghei36> ________________________________ From: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2020 10:32:46 AM To: Joseph McIntire <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Cc: [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> <[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 no RF in transmit Just to cover the bases, make sure you're not in transmit test mode. 73 Bill AE6JV On 12/4/20 at 8:32 AM, [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> (Joseph McIntire) wrote: >Yesterday I was running some FT8 on 17 meters. All of a sudden >I noticed there was no output out of the amplifier. Then looked >at the radio it had the red XMIT light on and two dash marks in >place of SWR and said 0 Watts out. So disconnected every thing >except power and antenna switched antenna switch to dummy and >get the same thing on any band. Of course when you depress The >XMIT button it switches to CW. But I did hook a Mic up. With >the mic hooked up I got the red XMIT led with ALC on the >display I would see the ALC change as I was talking in the MIC. >But when I switch over to the display that shows RF out there >is no indication of RF. Is this something other people have >had. I realize it could most likely be multiple different thing >but would these indications narrow it down to a section of the >radio like maybe the 100 watt amp. Or something like that. > >Thanks for all advice in advance >Joe AB3JN Bill Frantz | The first thing you need when | Periwinkle (408)348-7900 | using a perimeter defense is a | 150 Rivermead Rd #235 www.pwpconsult.com<http://www.pwpconsult.com><http://www.pwpconsult.com> | perimeter. | Peterborough, NH 03458 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email]<mailto:[hidden email]> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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