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Wayne Michael

k3s radio kit

Any advise for a putting a K3S together?
I just ordered it.

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wayne burdick

Re: k3s radio kit

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Hi Wayne,

Assembly is very straightforward, with very clear instructions, drawings, and photos in the manual. The best advice is to read instructions carefully and perform the steps in order.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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W1GO (Joe)

Re: k3s radio kit

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Get yourself a good pair of pointed tweezers. They will help your sanity as you pick various size screws from whatever multi compartment carrier you segment them the into.

Good luck n enjoy.

Joe

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Tony G6GLP

Re: k3s radio kit

Any advise for a putting a K3S together?

Another Suggestion is to read the instruction book first then mark up any pages that have amendments in order not to miss or undertake procedures.

73 de Tony G6GLP

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Nr4c

Re: k3s radio kit

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1/ Download the assembly manual and read it.

2/ Pay attention to the "Tools needed" section.

3/ Read the assembly manual.

4/ Download and read the Users Manual.

5/ Re-read both manuals.

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Arthur Nienhouse

Re: k3s radio kit

*/All good advice add a self clamping 6" tweezers to the list .......you
will be glad you did.

Regards
Art
ka9zap
/*

On 8/5/2016 9:43 AM, Nr4c wrote:

> 1/ Download the assembly manual and read it.
>
> 2/ Pay attention to the "Tools needed" section.
>
> 3/ Read the assembly manual.
>
> 4/ Download and read the Users Manual.
>
> 5/ Re-read both manuals.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
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>> Any advise for a putting a K3S together?
>> I just ordered it.
>>
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Peter Pauly

Re: k3s radio kit

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6. Use a muffin tin to separate all the screws types and parts.
7. Take your time. No need to finish it in one night. Stop when you get
tired so you don't make mistakes.

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote:

> 1/ Download the assembly manual and read it.
>
> 2/ Pay attention to the "Tools needed" section.
>
> 3/ Read the assembly manual.
>
> 4/ Download and read the Users Manual.
>
> 5/ Re-read both manuals.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
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> > On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Wayne Michael <[hidden email]>
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> >
> > Any advise for a putting a K3S together?
> > I just ordered it.
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Don Wilhelm

Re: k3s radio kit

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Read the assembly instructions and follow them exactly as written.
Get a new #1 Phillips screwdriver to use.
If you are not accustomed to judging screw lengths accurately, use a
ruler to measure them.
In other words, just follow the instructions.
If you have problems understanding the instructions, ask here on the
reflector and you will receive assistance.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/5/2016 10:05 AM, Wayne Michael wrote:
> Any advise for a putting a K3S together?
> I just ordered it.
>
>

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markmusick

Re: k3s radio kit

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Make sure you use a quality anti-static mat with a wrist strap during
assembly.
The one I use is manufactured by 3M.
As Wayne says, follow the manual and don't skip steps. Check each step off
after you have completed it.
Depending on what options you purchased it will take several hours to
complete the assembly. Do not rush and above all when you get tired stop,
get some rest and come back to it later.

Mark, WB9CIF

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Any advise for a putting a K3S together?
I just ordered it.

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All are excellent bits of advice, especially 6 and 7. Make sure you download the K3s manual and not the K3, and have fun. I enjoyed building mine, but I went too fast. Enjoy it.
AJ4YA

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> On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:50, Peter Pauly <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> 6. Use a muffin tin to separate all the screws types and parts.
> 7. Take your time. No need to finish it in one night. Stop when you get
> tired so you don't make mistakes.
>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Nr4c <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> 1/ Download the assembly manual and read it.
>>
>> 2/ Pay attention to the "Tools needed" section.
>>
>> 3/ Read the assembly manual.
>>
>> 4/ Download and read the Users Manual.
>>
>> 5/ Re-read both manuals.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
>>
>>>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Wayne Michael <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Any advise for a putting a K3S together?
>>> I just ordered it.
>>>
>>>
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Jerry

Re: k3s radio kit

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May I suggest that you acquire from the XYL a bed sheet that will cover the
area of the floor that you and the assembly bench will occupy (maybe even
more). Nuts, bolts and other things that bounce when dropped do not bounce
on the sheet. A white sheet is preferable because radio stuff cannot blend
itself into the sheet's background.

Best regards,

Jerry, W1IE

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Subject: [Elecraft] k3s radio kit

Any advise for a putting a K3S together?
I just ordered it.

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Bob Novas

Re: k3s radio kit

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For me, the TMP connectors were hard, and installing the sub receiver was
hard. The rest was reasonably easy. Go slow and follow the advice in this
thread. Maybe someone else has words of wisdom on the TMP connectors. The
TMP connectors killed my fingers. I wound up using needle nose pliers to
insert them. Also be sure to trim the center wires as instructed. And,
inventory the cables and use the right length cable for each cable
connection.

Note that the word connector appears in the assembly manual 119 times.
You'll be futzing with a lot of connectors! (Not THAT many, but a lot.)
Misaligning connectors is a really easy mistake when you're tired. You're
better off if you don't make that mistake.

Bob - W3DK

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ron
> D'Eau Claire
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:36 PM
> To: 'Wayne Michael'; '[hidden email]'
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3s radio kit
>
> In addition to Wayne's comments,
>
> 1) Do the parts inventory even though your fingers are itching to start

assembly.
> That's something many of us skip over and finding and identifying each
part
> before you start helps avoid confusion during assembly. There's no
"Aaaaargh!"
> moment as bad as discovering that you used the wrong screw a few pages
back
> and now you don't have it when it is needed. Besides, doing that in some
steps
> can damage parts.
>
> 2) Be sure to check off each step in the assembly instructions. Check
boxes are
> provided. Skipping a step is one of the most common reasons why a builder
has
> to "back up" and reassemble a portion of the kit again after leaving
something
> out. Checking the boxes helps make a skipped step stand out before you go
too
> far.
>
> 3) If a step is not clear, feel free to drop me a note ([hidden email]
or
> [hidden email]). I wrote the manual and the primary reason I try to keep an
eye
> on this reflector is to pick up any issues people might report assembling
their

> kits. Of course, during regular M-F business hours you can also contact
> [hidden email]. I'm not at the factory, so they are the people to
> contact in the unlikely event something is missing.
>
> 4) Have fun building. Have fun operating.
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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Wayne

> Michael
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> Subject: [Elecraft] k3s radio kit
>
> Any advise for a putting a K3S together?
> I just ordered it.
>
>
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Kidder, George

Re: k3s radio kit

And for heaven's sake, get a good anti-static pad and wrist strap!

George, W3HBM

On 8/5/2016 2:27 PM, Bob Novas wrote:

> For me, the TMP connectors were hard, and installing the sub receiver was
> hard. The rest was reasonably easy. Go slow and follow the advice in this
> thread. Maybe someone else has words of wisdom on the TMP connectors. The
> TMP connectors killed my fingers. I wound up using needle nose pliers to
> insert them. Also be sure to trim the center wires as instructed. And,
> inventory the cables and use the right length cable for each cable
> connection.
>
> Note that the word connector appears in the assembly manual 119 times.
> You'll be futzing with a lot of connectors! (Not THAT many, but a lot.)
> Misaligning connectors is a really easy mistake when you're tired. You're
> better off if you don't make that mistake.
>
> Bob - W3DK
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Ron
>> D'Eau Claire
>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:36 PM
>> To: 'Wayne Michael'; '[hidden email]'
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3s radio kit
>>
>> In addition to Wayne's comments,
>>
>> 1) Do the parts inventory even though your fingers are itching to start
> assembly.
>> That's something many of us skip over and finding and identifying each
> part
>> before you start helps avoid confusion during assembly. There's no
> "Aaaaargh!"
>> moment as bad as discovering that you used the wrong screw a few pages
> back
>> and now you don't have it when it is needed. Besides, doing that in some
> steps
>> can damage parts.
>>
>> 2) Be sure to check off each step in the assembly instructions. Check
> boxes are
>> provided. Skipping a step is one of the most common reasons why a builder
> has
>> to "back up" and reassemble a portion of the kit again after leaving
> something
>> out. Checking the boxes helps make a skipped step stand out before you go
> too
>> far.
>>
>> 3) If a step is not clear, feel free to drop me a note ([hidden email]
> or
>> [hidden email]). I wrote the manual and the primary reason I try to keep an
> eye
>> on this reflector is to pick up any issues people might report assembling
> their
>> kits. Of course, during regular M-F business hours you can also contact
>> [hidden email]. I'm not at the factory, so they are the people to
>> contact in the unlikely event something is missing.
>>
>> 4) Have fun building. Have fun operating.
>>
>> 73, Ron AC7AC
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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> Wayne
>> Michael
>> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 7:05 AM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: [Elecraft] k3s radio kit
>>
>> Any advise for a putting a K3S together?
>> I just ordered it.
>>
>>
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Irwin KD3TB

Re: k3s radio kit

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I have build two this year. Each took a few days to complete, only spending
a few hours each day on the project. I took over the dining room table,
with my wife's permission, spread everything out and check the inventory
before starting. All parts, especially screws, washers and nuts were sorted
and placed in separate small glass bowls. Before installing a screw, I
double checked the length and size with a good ruler, etc. The instructions
are extremely well written and easy to follow. Just follow them closely
and always double check your work after each step. If you take your time,
are careful what you do, you really have the pleasure of building your own
radio.
Good luck,
Irwin, KD3TB

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> Hi Wayne,
>
> Assembly is very straightforward, with very clear instructions, drawings,
> and photos in the manual. The best advice is to read instructions carefully
> and perform the steps in order.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2016, at 7:05 AM, Wayne Michael <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Any advise for a putting a K3S together?
> > I just ordered it.
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Clay Autery

Re: k3s radio kit

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Yes...

1) While awaiting its delivery, download all the latest PDF documents
for assembly and operation (sometimes combined) for each component in
your setup.
2) Read ALL of them.
3) Re-read the K3s assembly manual.
4) Make SURE you have all the required tools and materials on hand.
5) Upon arrival, DO THE INVENTORY FIRST... down to every little piece
of hardware.
6) Segregate hardware using labeled ZipLoc baggies for each assembly step.
(If there is any missing parts/hardware, do a SINGLE shortage request to
Elecraft)
7) Make sure you have an assembly area which will be large enough and
undisturbed/low traffic.
8) Go slowly... ENJOY the process... And fit things together as closely
and squarely as possible.

NOTHING in the process requires hammers or force...

If you have a question, feel free to email the list or me directly.

Congratulations on becoming the owner of the world's best radio! :-)

73,

______________________
Clay Autery, KY5G
MONTAC Enterprises
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> I just ordered it.
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efortner

Re: k3s radio kit

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A little deoxit on the TMP connectors makes them slide in much easier, but
you must make sure they are lined up proper before applying force seat it
fully.

Earl, K4KAY

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Novas
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:27 PM
To: 'Ron D'Eau Claire'; 'Wayne Michael'; '[hidden email]'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3s radio kit

For me, the TMP connectors were hard, and installing the sub receiver was
hard. The rest was reasonably easy. Go slow and follow the advice in this
thread. Maybe someone else has words of wisdom on the TMP connectors. The
TMP connectors killed my fingers. I wound up using needle nose pliers to
insert them. Also be sure to trim the center wires as instructed. And,
inventory the cables and use the right length cable for each cable
connection.

Note that the word connector appears in the assembly manual 119 times.
You'll be futzing with a lot of connectors! (Not THAT many, but a lot.)
Misaligning connectors is a really easy mistake when you're tired. You're
better off if you don't make that mistake.

Bob - W3DK

Wayne

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Russ W9RB

Re: k3s radio kit

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"... If you are not accustomed to judging screw lengths accurately, use a
ruler to measure them. "

I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents:
Pay very close attention to the screw lengths and sort them out carefully. A 4-40x3/16" Pan Head might work when a 4-40x1/4" is called out, but later you may need the 3/16" and the 1/4" is tooo long :)

73, Russ
W9EL

73, Russ - W9RB

Don Wilhelm

Re: k3s radio kit

For those not familiar with screw dimensions, pay attention to the
information on the right side of page 12 in the assembly manual. Flat
Head screws are measured from the top of the head to the bottom of the
threads while Pan Head (and round head and others) are measured from
the bottom of the head to the end of the threads.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/5/2016 3:16 PM, rboutell wrote:

> "... If you are not accustomed to judging screw lengths accurately, use a
> ruler to measure them. "
>
> I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents:
> Pay very close attention to the screw lengths and sort them out carefully. A
> 4-40x3/16" Pan Head might work when a 4-40x1/4" is called out, but later you
> may need the 3/16" and the 1/4" is tooo long :)
>
> 73, Russ
> W9EL
>
>
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gm3sek

Re: k3s radio kit

In reply to this post by Clay Autery

>
>NOTHING in the process requires hammers or force...
>
That's a very good point to remember: EVERYTHING FITS CORRECTLY. If
something doesn't seem to fit quite right, you only need to line it up
better... then sure enough, it fits after all.

There were many other good points earlier, especially about buying a
*new* Phillips #1 screwdriver. You probably needed one anyway.
(Europeans: that really does mean Phillips, not Pozidriv!)

The self-locking 6in forceps (aka hemostats) are excellent for
positioning washers and nuts in hard-to-reach places. They are also are
the ideal tool for jiggling TMP plugs into place.

One other word of comfort: all of those connectors become much easier to
insert and remove after the first time.

73 from Ian GM3SEK

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
>Clay Autery
>Sent: 05 August 2016 20:08
>To: [hidden email]
>Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3s radio kit
>
>Yes...
>
>1) While awaiting its delivery, download all the latest PDF documents
>for assembly and operation (sometimes combined) for each component in
>your setup.
>2) Read ALL of them.
>3) Re-read the K3s assembly manual.
>4) Make SURE you have all the required tools and materials on hand.
>5) Upon arrival, DO THE INVENTORY FIRST... down to every little piece
>of hardware.
>6) Segregate hardware using labeled ZipLoc baggies for each assembly

step.
>(If there is any missing parts/hardware, do a SINGLE shortage request
to
>Elecraft)
>7) Make sure you have an assembly area which will be large enough and
>undisturbed/low traffic.
>8) Go slowly... ENJOY the process... And fit things together as
closely

>and squarely as possible.
>
>NOTHING in the process requires hammers or force...
>
>If you have a question, feel free to email the list or me directly.
>
>Congratulations on becoming the owner of the world's best radio! :-)
>
>
>73,
>
>______________________
>Clay Autery, KY5G
>MONTAC Enterprises
>(318) 518-1389
>
>On 8/5/2016 9:05 AM, Wayne Michael wrote:
>> Any advise for a putting a K3S together?
>> I just ordered it.
>>
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Ralph Parker-2

Re: k3s radio kit

In reply to this post by Wayne Michael

>Pay very close attention to the screw lengths and sort them out
carefully...
>later you may need the 3/16" and the 1/4" is tooo long :)

Amen to that, brother!
After 50+ years of building radios, I built my K3 very carefully.
However, on completion, the output was very intermittent. Tapping on the
cabinet would trigger the problem. I tried everything, including on line
and on-the-phone discussions with the Elcraft service dept.
Finally, I boxed it up and sent it to the doctor.
They diagnosed the problem right out of the box, with no tools.
I had placed two lockwashers on the wrong end of the screws holding the
driver transistors to the bottom of the case, so they made only
intermittent contact. Bingo! Was my face red!

The moral of the story: be careful, and check EVERYTHING during assembly.

VE7XF

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