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kat500 can't be seen by kat500 utility

john@kk9a.com
The KAT500 has no serial port, just a 3.5mm round jack.

John KK9A

From: tomb18@ videotron.ca
Sun Mar 19 17:04:02 EDT 2017

Hi Can you try a different USB to serial?73


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Date: 2017-03-19  12:50 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] kat500 can't be seen by kat500 utility
when i plug in the serial/usb cable, a new com port, com4 appears in the
list of com ports.  however, the kat500 utility cannot complete the
handshake when trying to connect to the new com4.  i checked the plug in
the back, and it appears to be all the way in.

advice and suggestions appreciated.


73 de
W3BS, Buddy Spiegel

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Re: kat500 can't be seen by kat500 utility

Nr4c
That is the serial port.

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> On Mar 19, 2017, at 9:12 PM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> The KAT500 has no serial port, just a 3.5mm round jack.
>
> John KK9A
>
> From: tomb18@ videotron.ca
> Sun Mar 19 17:04:02 EDT 2017
>
> Hi Can you try a different USB to serial?73
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: buddy s <buddys70 at gmail.com>
> Date: 2017-03-19  12:50 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] kat500 can't be seen by kat500 utility
> when i plug in the serial/usb cable, a new com port, com4 appears in the
> list of com ports.  however, the kat500 utility cannot complete the
> handshake when trying to connect to the new com4.  i checked the plug in
> the back, and it appears to be all the way in.
>
> advice and suggestions appreciated.
>
>
> 73 de
> W3BS, Buddy Spiegel
>
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Re: kat500 can't be seen by kat500 utility

tomb18
In reply to this post by john@kk9a.com
I guess the question is " Is it the KAT500?"  or "Is it the USB to serial
Adapter"?
To answer this question if you do not have an additional USB Serial to 3.5mm
plug, you could just take a regular USB to serial, attach a serial cable,
cut the cable and determine the ground, transmit and receive wires, and then
wire them up to a 3.5mm plug.  Check out the pin outs in the KPA500 manuals.
The biggest pain here if you do not have a spare USB Serial to 3.5mm, then
you have to wait for a replacement before you know.
At least this way you can find out sooner which device is at fault.
73 Tom
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From: Nr4c
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2017 11:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] kat500 can't be seen by kat500 utility

That is the serial port.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Mar 19, 2017, at 9:12 PM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> The KAT500 has no serial port, just a 3.5mm round jack.
>
> John KK9A
>
> From: tomb18@ videotron.ca
> Sun Mar 19 17:04:02 EDT 2017
>
> Hi Can you try a different USB to serial?73
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: buddy s <buddys70 at gmail.com>
> Date: 2017-03-19  12:50 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] kat500 can't be seen by kat500 utility
> when i plug in the serial/usb cable, a new com port, com4 appears in the
> list of com ports.  however, the kat500 utility cannot complete the
> handshake when trying to connect to the new com4.  i checked the plug in
> the back, and it appears to be all the way in.
>
> advice and suggestions appreciated.
>
>
> 73 de
> W3BS, Buddy Spiegel
>
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Re: kat500 can't be seen by kat500 utility

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Hi Buddyl,
Just a wild possibility, did you select the port in the KAT500 utility?  
When I update a Elecraft product several ports are listed within the
appropriate  utility, so I try each listed port, one usually works.
GL 73
 K7SSS Jim H
 
 
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when i  plug in the serial/usb cable, a new com port, com4 appears in the
list of  com ports.  however, the kat500 utility cannot complete the
handshake  when trying to connect to the new com4.  i checked the plug in
the  back, and it appears to be all the way in.

advice and suggestions  appreciated.


73 de
W3BS, Buddy  Spiegel
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Re: kat500 can't be seen by kat500 utility

john@kk9a.com
In reply to this post by Nr4c
Yes but almost all serial cables have DB9 connectors. Not many of us have
spare round serial adapters laying around to try. I had to buy a special
cable just to program my KAT500. DB9 to 3.5mm adaptors are also an option.

John KK9A


On Sun, March 19, 2017 11:27 pm, Nr4c wrote:
That is the serial port.

Sent from my iPhone
...nr4c. bill


> On Mar 19, 2017, at 9:12 PM, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
> The KAT500 has no serial port, just a 3.5mm round jack.
>
>
> John KK9A
>
>
> From: tomb18@ videotron.ca
> Sun Mar 19 17:04:02 EDT 2017
>
>
> Hi Can you try a different USB to serial?73
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: buddy s <buddys70 at gmail.com>
> Date: 2017-03-19  12:50 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: elecraft at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] kat500 can't be seen by kat500 utility
> when i plug in the serial/usb cable, a new com port, com4 appears in the
> list of com ports.  however, the kat500 utility cannot complete the
> handshake when trying to connect to the new com4.  i checked the plug in
> the back, and it appears to be all the way in.
>
> advice and suggestions appreciated.
>
>
> 73 de
> W3BS, Buddy Spiegel
>
>
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Re: kat500 can't be seen by kat500 utility

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On Mon,3/20/2017 3:50 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
> Yes but almost all serial cables have DB9 connectors. Not many of us have
> spare round serial adapters laying around to try.

It's pretty easy to make a DB9 to 3.5mm serial cable. Wiring of the pins
is in the manual for the Elecraft gear that uses it, so we can cut
either a hi-fi cable that's laying around and solder it to a DB9, or cut
a DB9 cable and solder it to a 3.5mm plug. I did the former. Works fine.

73, Jim K9YC

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Re: kat500 can't be seen by kat500 utility

Jim Brown-10
Thanks Don. I made my adapter years ago when the KAT500 arrived in my
shack for beta test. It may have been nothing more than designating the
RS232 functions assigned to tip and sleeve. Or maybe I had to ask
someone. In the past, pin assignments for all connectors was in the
manual. It's very disappointing to see this practice discontinued. It
has the effect of turning hams more into appliance operators.

Looking at the XG3 manual, the 3.5mm ring is wired to pin 2 of the DB9
female, the tip to pin 3, and the sleeve to pin 5. Pin 8 is jumpered to
pin 4.  My adapter does not include that jumper.

73, Jim K9YC

On Mon,3/20/2017 9:47 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Jim,
> The only place I have seen the DB9 to 3.5mm wiring is in the XG3 manual.
> It is not in the KX3 or KX2 manuals.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 3/20/2017 12:20 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>> On Mon,3/20/2017 3:50 AM, [hidden email] wrote:
>>> Yes but almost all serial cables have DB9 connectors. Not many of us
>>> have
>>> spare round serial adapters laying around to try.
>>
>> It's pretty easy to make a DB9 to 3.5mm serial cable. Wiring of the pins
>> is in the manual for the Elecraft gear that uses it, so we can cut
>> either a hi-fi cable that's laying around and solder it to a DB9, or cut
>> a DB9 cable and solder it to a 3.5mm plug. I did the former. Works fine.
>>
>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>
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