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"""I'm not a long-haired, dope-smoking, free-software hippie so if I have to spend some money for good software I don't mind. (As a professional programmer I've never understood why the product of my hard work should be free when I have to pay for the product of everyone else's work.)""" Any recommendations? Thanks! Craig NZ0R K1 #1966 K2/100 #4941 Craig, Yes, my recommendations are to: 1. Show more discretion about "long hair" comments, a number of folks who read this reflector have it and will find your posting offensive... 2. Along with many other software programs Ham Radio Deluxe is a freeware product and is an excellent one. Your comment seems disparaging to both those who use it, (thousands of folks), and those who choose to provide it "free". 3. Perhaps consider an apology of some sort to the reflector?.... Mike Sexsmith W7MSX K2#4819 KX1#1034 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> """I'm not a long-haired, dope-smoking, free-software hippie so if I have to > spend some money for good software I don't mind. (As a professional > programmer I've never understood why the product of my hard work should be > free when I have to pay for the product of everyone else's work.)""" > > Any recommendations? Second Craig's recommendation. I've been a software professional myself as long as you've been a ham (and you started when you were 12), and in my experience there's room for both free (as in either "free beer" *or* "free speech" or both) and for-profit software in the the world. I've used free code that was of excellent quality. I've also encountered allegedly "professional" programming that was utter garbage. And while I use free tools quite a bit, I just spent $500 for a Java development environment because it will help me do a better job than the equivalant free products, some of which are quite good. I suppose it would be nice if the quality of software could be judged soley on its price. But Elecraft owners know that rule doesn't apply to radios either. Deprecating comments about free-software advocates associate you with the likes of the scoundrels at SCO. Consider that it does not do you credit. 73 de Maggie Leber K3XS Elecraft K2 s/n 1641 Editor, the Phil-Mont Mobile Radio Club "Blurb" -- -----/___. _)Margaret Stephanie Leber CCP, SCJP/"The art of progress / ----/(, /| /| http://voicenet.com/~maggie SCWCD/ is to preserve order/ ---/ / | / | _ _ _ ` _ AOPA 925383/ amid change and to / --/ ) / |/ |_(_(_(_/_(_/__(__(/_ K3XS / preserve change amid/ -/ (_/ ' .-/ .-/ ARRL 39280 /order."-A.N.Whitehead/ /________________(_/_(_/_______AMSAT 32844_/<[hidden email]>/ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The thread has ended up the way it did because I misunderstood Craig's
original post - he is not anti freeware. We discussed this off-list and found we have a very great deal in common. I am only pro Ham Radio freeware as Hams have a great ethos of helping each other - as this forum proves. I am not a fan of Linux even though it's free (must say fedora is rather good) and many of my customers use Linux. Simon Brown --- www.hb9drv.ch www.laax.ch RSGB HF Convention: Friday 7th - Sunday 9th October 2005 Holidays: Monday 10th - Thursday 20th October 2005 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Leber" <[hidden email]> > NZ0R wrote : > >> """I'm not a long-haired, dope-smoking, free-software hippie so if I have >> to >> spend some money for good software I don't mind. (As a professional >> programmer I've never understood why the product of my hard work should >> be >> free when I have to pay for the product of everyone else's work.)""" >> >> Any recommendations? > > Second Craig's recommendation. I've been a software professional myself as > long as > you've been a ham (and you started when you were 12), and in my experience > there's room for both free (as in either "free beer" *or* "free speech" or > both) > and for-profit software in the the world. > [chop] _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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You know, I kind of wanted to think that Mike's comments were,
maybe, tongue-in-cheek, but he is probably serious, which by the way, Craig was not. And if a person can't distinguish between the the two, then I suggest he/she has issues and needs to deal with them. Jeese, lighten up folks...loosen the tie and top button. My 2 cents Stan Rife W5EWA Houston, TX K2 S/N 4216 -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Mike Sexsmith Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 9:25 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] long-haired, dope-smoking, free-software hippie Craig, Yes, my recommendations are to: 1. Show more discretion about "long hair" comments, a number of folks who read this reflector have it and will find your posting offensive... 2. Along with many other software programs Ham Radio Deluxe is a freeware product and is an excellent one. Your comment seems disparaging to both those who use it, (thousands of folks), and those who choose to provide it "free". 3. Perhaps consider an apology of some sort to the reflector?.... Mike Sexsmith W7MSX K2#4819 KX1#1034 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Stan Rife wrote:
> You know, I kind of wanted to think that Mike's comments were, > maybe, tongue-in-cheek, but he is probably serious, which by the way, Craig > was not. And if a person can't distinguish between the the two, then I > suggest he/she has issues and needs to deal with them. Jeese, lighten up > folks...loosen the tie and top button. > > My 2 cents > I have found that a sense of humor is unappreciated, especially on certain "other" lists. I knew someone wojuld get their panties in a wad when I saw the subject line. My thanks to ALL the creators of Ham Software. (Except for Airmail and Winlink, of course ;-) -- _ _ _ _ _ / \ / \ / \ / \ / \ John L. Sielke ( W ) ( 2 ) ( A ) ( G ) ( N ) http://w2agn.net \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ \_/ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Looks like this thread is starting to degenerate a bit. Let's let it rest for
now :-) 73, Eric WA6HHQ Elecraft list moderator _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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