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jim rogers-2
Good morning,

I have a new K3S, serial # 10195.  All was going well until I hooked up
my KPA500 to the K3S using the Elecraft supplied aux cable (E850463).

In standby mode (on the KPA500) the audio level on the K3S is nice and
loud, BUT when I press the OPER button on the KPA500 the audio level on
the K3S all but disappears!

If I then press STBY on the KPA500, the audio level on the K3S returns
to loud. Only the E850463 cable connects between the two Elecraft
components.

The KPA500 is about 1 year old and has performed flawlessly to date.  Do
I have a Firmware issue with the "older" KPA500 and the brand new K3S?

Thank you for any suggestion on how to resolve this issue.

Jim N4DU




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Re: new K3S (10195) and audio level drop when KPA500 in Oper mode

Dick Dievendorff-4
Perhaps your KPA500 key line is being pulled low?  Might be a cable issue.
I think there's an asterisk on the left side of the KPA500 LCD that shows
when the PA KEY line is being pulled down.

73 de Dick, K6KR

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Subject: [Elecraft] new K3S (10195) and audio level drop when KPA500 in Oper
mode

Good morning,

I have a new K3S, serial # 10195.  All was going well until I hooked up my
KPA500 to the K3S using the Elecraft supplied aux cable (E850463).

In standby mode (on the KPA500) the audio level on the K3S is nice and loud,
BUT when I press the OPER button on the KPA500 the audio level on the K3S
all but disappears!

If I then press STBY on the KPA500, the audio level on the K3S returns to
loud. Only the E850463 cable connects between the two Elecraft components.

The KPA500 is about 1 year old and has performed flawlessly to date.  Do I
have a Firmware issue with the "older" KPA500 and the brand new K3S?

Thank you for any suggestion on how to resolve this issue.

Jim N4DU




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Re: new K3S (10195) and audio level drop when KPA500 in Oper mode

Warren Merkel
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Jim,

Did you check what the K3S power level displays when the KPA500 is in
Operate mode?  It could be set for very low drive. I have mine set up to
lower the drive from 100w to 30w when the KPA500 goes from standby to
operate.   If you have the setting for per band mode enabled, you will
need to check it on each band.

Warren, KD4Z


On 8/29/2015 12:06 PM, jim rogers wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I have a new K3S, serial # 10195.  All was going well until I hooked up
> my KPA500 to the K3S using the Elecraft supplied aux cable (E850463).
>
> In standby mode (on the KPA500) the audio level on the K3S is nice and
> loud, BUT when I press the OPER button on the KPA500 the audio level on
> the K3S all but disappears!
>
> If I then press STBY on the KPA500, the audio level on the K3S returns
> to loud. Only the E850463 cable connects between the two Elecraft
> components.
>
> The KPA500 is about 1 year old and has performed flawlessly to date.  Do
> I have a Firmware issue with the "older" KPA500 and the brand new K3S?
>
> Thank you for any suggestion on how to resolve this issue.
>
> Jim N4DU
>
>
>
>
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Re: new K3S (10195) and audio level drop when KPA500 in Oper mode

Don Wilhelm-4
Warren,

His problem was in receive, not transmit.  So I don't understand how the
drive level setting could have anything to do with it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 8/29/2015 3:52 PM, Warren Merkel wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Did you check what the K3S power level displays when the KPA500 is in
> Operate mode?  It could be set for very low drive. I have mine set up to
> lower the drive from 100w to 30w when the KPA500 goes from standby to
> operate.   If you have the setting for per band mode enabled, you will
> need to check it on each band.
>
> Warren, KD4Z
>
>
> On 8/29/2015 12:06 PM, jim rogers wrote:
>> Good morning,
>>
>> I have a new K3S, serial # 10195.  All was going well until I hooked up
>> my KPA500 to the K3S using the Elecraft supplied aux cable (E850463).
>>
>> In standby mode (on the KPA500) the audio level on the K3S is nice and
>> loud, BUT when I press the OPER button on the KPA500 the audio level on
>> the K3S all but disappears!
>>
>> If I then press STBY on the KPA500, the audio level on the K3S returns
>> to loud. Only the E850463 cable connects between the two Elecraft
>> components.
>>
>> The KPA500 is about 1 year old and has performed flawlessly to date.  Do
>> I have a Firmware issue with the "older" KPA500 and the brand new K3S?
>>
>> Thank you for any suggestion on how to resolve this issue.
>>
>> Jim N4DU
>>
>>
>>
>>
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RE.: new K3S (10195) and audio level drop when KPA500 inOper mode

Jerry Moore
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Have the units been moved? Updated? Disconnected/reconnected since working?

If so: Please power off the amp and rig. Pull the cable and check for pushed/bent pins.

Just a shot in the dark.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Dick Dievendorff
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 12:20 PM
To: 'jim rogers';[hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new K3S (10195) and audio level drop when KPA500 inOper mode


Perhaps your KPA500 key line is being pulled low?  Might be a cable issue.
I think there's an asterisk on the left side of the KPA500 LCD that shows
when the PA KEY line is being pulled down.

73 de Dick, K6KR

-----Original Message-----
From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of jim
rogers
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:07 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] new K3S (10195) and audio level drop when KPA500 in Oper
mode

Good morning,

I have a new K3S, serial # 10195.  All was going well until I hooked up my
KPA500 to the K3S using the Elecraft supplied aux cable (E850463).

In standby mode (on the KPA500) the audio level on the K3S is nice and loud,
BUT when I press the OPER button on the KPA500 the audio level on the K3S
all but disappears!

If I then press STBY on the KPA500, the audio level on the K3S returns to
loud. Only the E850463 cable connects between the two Elecraft components.

The KPA500 is about 1 year old and has performed flawlessly to date.  Do I
have a Firmware issue with the "older" KPA500 and the brand new K3S?

Thank you for any suggestion on how to resolve this issue.

Jim N4DU




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Re: new K3S (10195) and audio level drop when KPA500 in Oper mode

Warren Merkel
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Don,

Of course it wouldn't in RX.  Excuse me.  I was under the impression
that the OP was referring to TX and the TX "audio", so I'll stand on my
comment.  Just trying to help sort it out. The OP didn't specifically
state RX or TX so how do you *really* know?

Warren


On 8/29/2015 4:35 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Warren,
>
> His problem was in receive, not transmit.  So I don't understand how the
> drive level setting could have anything to do with it.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 8/29/2015 3:52 PM, Warren Merkel wrote:
>> Jim,
>>
>> Did you check what the K3S power level displays when the KPA500 is in
>> Operate mode?  It could be set for very low drive. I have mine set up to
>> lower the drive from 100w to 30w when the KPA500 goes from standby to
>> operate.   If you have the setting for per band mode enabled, you will
>> need to check it on each band.
>>
>> Warren, KD4Z
>>
>>
>> On 8/29/2015 12:06 PM, jim rogers wrote:
>>> Good morning,
>>>
>>> I have a new K3S, serial # 10195.  All was going well until I hooked up
>>> my KPA500 to the K3S using the Elecraft supplied aux cable (E850463).
>>>
>>> In standby mode (on the KPA500) the audio level on the K3S is nice and
>>> loud, BUT when I press the OPER button on the KPA500 the audio level on
>>> the K3S all but disappears!
>>>
>>> If I then press STBY on the KPA500, the audio level on the K3S returns
>>> to loud. Only the E850463 cable connects between the two Elecraft
>>> components.
>>>
>>> The KPA500 is about 1 year old and has performed flawlessly to date.  Do
>>> I have a Firmware issue with the "older" KPA500 and the brand new K3S?
>>>
>>> Thank you for any suggestion on how to resolve this issue.
>>>
>>> Jim N4DU
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: new K3S (10195) and audio level drop when KPA500 in Oper mode

Jack Brindle-2
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Jim;

Dick’s advice is sound. When in OPER mode, the KPA will display an asterisk on the left side of the display when PTT is applied. If you are seeing that
indicator, check the PTT connections to see if there is a short to ground. When using the KPA with your K3S, you should only use the AUX I/O cable,
nothing should be plugged into the PTT jack on the KPA500. If this is the case, then check the AUX I/O cable to make sure that no pins are bent. If you
see one bent over, try to straighten it without breaking it (might be difficult) and try the cable again.

There were no firmware changes for the KPA500 for the K3S. The interface and use is identical to that with the K3. The latest shipping firmware is V1.38,
which is what you should be using in your KPA.

- Jack, W6FB
Elecraft Engineering

> On Aug 29, 2015, at 9:06 AM, jim rogers <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Good morning,
>
> I have a new K3S, serial # 10195.  All was going well until I hooked up my KPA500 to the K3S using the Elecraft supplied aux cable (E850463).
>
> In standby mode (on the KPA500) the audio level on the K3S is nice and loud, BUT when I press the OPER button on the KPA500 the audio level on the K3S all but disappears!
>
> If I then press STBY on the KPA500, the audio level on the K3S returns to loud. Only the E850463 cable connects between the two Elecraft components.
>
> The KPA500 is about 1 year old and has performed flawlessly to date.  Do I have a Firmware issue with the "older" KPA500 and the brand new K3S?
>
> Thank you for any suggestion on how to resolve this issue.
>
> Jim N4DU
>
>
>
>
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