re: K2 vs. the world
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An interesting discussion, but I notice no one has abandoned a Ten-
Tec Omni II for a K2. Do you folks think that the Omni II is worth the great difference in price based on performance? Certainly factors like unit size and bulk, pride of building, and the fact hat the K2 is not software based are important, but is the Omni a functionally better rig? 73, Jeff KG6ZVT _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On May 20, 2006, at 12:40 PM, jrb wrote: > An interesting discussion, but I notice no one has abandoned a Ten- > Tec Omni II for a K2. If you want to send me one, I'll let you know.... > Do you folks think that the Omni II is worth the great difference > in price based on performance? The Omni II is a tremendous rig. It offers the performance of rigs that are literally three times the price. It set the standard to which these mega-rigs aspire to. > Certainly factors like unit size and bulk, pride of building, and > the fact hat the K2 is not software based are important, but is the > Omni a functionally better rig? An Omni II is only twice the price of a fully decked out K2/100. For that price you have two functional receivers, 100% duty cycle transmit, and a bunch of other features. I'd say it's worth the price, if you can afford it. As for Price / Performance, the K2/100 wins, hands down. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: [hidden email] Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Coleman" <[hidden email]> To: "jrb" <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] re: K2 vs. the world > > On May 20, 2006, at 12:40 PM, jrb wrote: > >> An interesting discussion, but I notice no one has abandoned a Ten- >> Tec Omni II for a K2. What is an OMNI II??? 73, Joe W2KJ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I deserted my Omni V for my K2/100 and never regret it, not to say the Omni V
was a bad rig, it wasn't. The K2 is like using a 44 magnum compared to a 38 special....hi On May 20, 2006, at 12:40 PM, jrb wrote: > An interesting discussion, but I notice no one has abandoned a Ten- > Tec Omni II for a K2. If you want to send me one, I'll let you know.... > Do you folks think that the Omni II is worth the great difference > in price based on performance? The Omni II is a tremendous rig. It offers the performance of rigs that are literally three times the price. It set the standard to which these mega-rigs aspire to. > Certainly factors like unit size and bulk, pride of building, and > the fact hat the K2 is not software based are important, but is the > Omni a functionally better rig? An Omni II is only twice the price of a fully decked out K2/100. For that price you have two functional receivers, 100% duty cycle transmit, and a bunch of other features. I'd say it's worth the price, if you can afford it. As for Price / Performance, the K2/100 wins, hands down. Bill Coleman, AA4LR, PP-ASEL Mail: [hidden email] Quote: "Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!" -- Wilbur Wright, 1901 _______________________ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 5/20/06 12:41:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [hidden email]
writes: > Do you folks think that the Orion II is worth the great difference in > > price based on performance? > Depends how you define performance. Certainly the Orion's numbers are better. They should be - the basic Orion costs five times what the basic K2 costs! Compare the price of a K2/100 with SSB, 160 and noise blanker with an Orion II and some filters, and see the price differential. > Certainly factors like unit size and bulk, pride of building, and the > fact hat the K2 is not software based > are important, but is the Omni a functionally better rig? In some ways the Orion II wins - as it should, because it's much more complex and much more expensive. The question (for me) isn't whether the Orion receiver outperforms the K2 receiver in some ways, but rather how the K2's receiver manages to compete in *any* way with rigs costing so much more and with so much more complexity. OTOH, try running the Orion from a 7 AH SLA battery for any length of time. That's a performance measure, too. IMHO, the K2 wasn't really meant to compete directly with most other HF ham rigs. Rather, it was meant to be an alternative to them, by focusing more on some things than the usual Yaecomwood. (CW performance, low power drain, ability of the owner to build and maintain, excellent receiver performance without too much complexity, ability to add options over time, etc.) IOW, the K2 offers a unique alternative. But I still wish the knobs and displays were bigger. 73 de Jim, N2EY _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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I guess it's my time to list ham gear in the past, not
including several VHF/UHF non-ham-band receivers and scanners or the commercial Collins and Watkins-Johnson gear at work: 1-tube (6SN7GT) regenerative (ham band) receiver (Boy Scout project) Pre-WW-II Zenith AM/SW console (SWL) receiver Hallicrafters S20R Receiver ARC-5 80m CW transmitter National HRO HF Receiver SCR-522 VHF AM transceiver Gonset Communicator 2m AM receiver Tecraft 2m AM tranmitter Hallicrafter SX-101 receiver w/2m AM converter Hallicrafter HT-44 HF transmitter SBE144 2m FM transceiver ICOM IC-230 2m FM transceiver * ICOM IC-228H 2m transceiver * Kenwood R5000 HF Receiver * ICOM R-7000 VHF/UHF Receiver * ICOM IC-2710 2m/440 MHztransceiver ICOM IC-02AT 2m transceiver Azden PCS4000 2m transceivcer * Alinco DR-1200 2m transceiver * Motorola Micor 440 MHz transceiver * Ten-Tec RX320D HF Receiver * ICOM IC-2100H 2m transceiver * ICON IC-207H 2m/440 MHz transceiver * ICOM IC-2720H 2m/440 MHz transceiver ( * = in service or stored serviceable) And last but certainly not least..... Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 put into service this afternoon (should be on the air by Monday.....) -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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" Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 put into service this afternoon
(should be on the air by Monday.....)" Way cool, Phil. Hope to hear you on with it. 73, Bob N6WG -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Phil Kane Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 8:25 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] re: K2 vs. the world I guess it's my time to list ham gear in the past, not including several VHF/UHF non-ham-band receivers and scanners or the commercial Collins and Watkins-Johnson gear at work: 1-tube (6SN7GT) regenerative (ham band) receiver (Boy Scout project) Pre-WW-II Zenith AM/SW console (SWL) receiver Hallicrafters S20R Receiver ARC-5 80m CW transmitter National HRO HF Receiver SCR-522 VHF AM transceiver Gonset Communicator 2m AM receiver Tecraft 2m AM tranmitter Hallicrafter SX-101 receiver w/2m AM converter Hallicrafter HT-44 HF transmitter SBE144 2m FM transceiver ICOM IC-230 2m FM transceiver * ICOM IC-228H 2m transceiver * Kenwood R5000 HF Receiver * ICOM R-7000 VHF/UHF Receiver * ICOM IC-2710 2m/440 MHztransceiver ICOM IC-02AT 2m transceiver Azden PCS4000 2m transceivcer * Alinco DR-1200 2m transceiver * Motorola Micor 440 MHz transceiver * Ten-Tec RX320D HF Receiver * ICOM IC-2100H 2m transceiver * ICON IC-207H 2m/440 MHz transceiver * ICOM IC-2720H 2m/440 MHz transceiver ( * = in service or stored serviceable) And last but certainly not least..... Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 put into service this afternoon (should be on the air by Monday.....) -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Howdy Phil,
Congratulations on the new rig. There is a net tomorrow you may be able to hear. Might take dropping your antenna to a low level since the mountain I live on is in the way. AC7AC is much better placed in Forest Grove to work me via ground wave. N7NLU has a hard time copying me from Beaverton. Our remote NCS is off in Dayton having way too much fun. Maybe next week you'll be able to check in with us :) Good luck getting your J-38 cleaned up and ready to use. 73, Kevin. KD5ONS On Sat, 20 May 2006 20:24:37 -0700, Phil Kane <[hidden email]> wrote: > I guess it's my time to list ham gear in the past, not > including several VHF/UHF non-ham-band receivers and scanners > or the commercial Collins and Watkins-Johnson gear at work: > > 1-tube (6SN7GT) regenerative (ham band) receiver (Boy Scout project) > Pre-WW-II Zenith AM/SW console (SWL) receiver > Hallicrafters S20R Receiver > ARC-5 80m CW transmitter > National HRO HF Receiver > SCR-522 VHF AM transceiver > Gonset Communicator 2m AM receiver > Tecraft 2m AM tranmitter > Hallicrafter SX-101 receiver w/2m AM converter > Hallicrafter HT-44 HF transmitter > SBE144 2m FM transceiver > ICOM IC-230 2m FM transceiver > * ICOM IC-228H 2m transceiver > * Kenwood R5000 HF Receiver > * ICOM R-7000 VHF/UHF Receiver > * ICOM IC-2710 2m/440 MHztransceiver > ICOM IC-02AT 2m transceiver > Azden PCS4000 2m transceivcer > * Alinco DR-1200 2m transceiver > * Motorola Micor 440 MHz transceiver > * Ten-Tec RX320D HF Receiver > * ICOM IC-2100H 2m transceiver > * ICON IC-207H 2m/440 MHz transceiver > * ICOM IC-2720H 2m/440 MHz transceiver > > ( * = in service or stored serviceable) > > And last but certainly not least..... > > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 put into service this afternoon > (should be on the air by Monday.....) > > -- > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > > > > _______________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: [hidden email] > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Greetings from a wet and windy Milton Keynes
I recently went mad and purchased a TenTec ORION II and all I can say is that to me this is a truly awesome radio - I can't put it down! I will now use my K2 (15w) mainly for portable operation, however, if I'm forced eventually to sell either, it will be the ORION and I will keep the K2 indefinitely. I'm looking forward to putting an FT100 nob on mine + building the KPA 100 73 Robert G3RCE (K2 #5219) Subject: Re: [Elecraft] re: K2 vs. the world (Jim, N2EY) > Do you folks think that the Orion II is worth the great difference in > > price based on performance? Depends how you define performance. Certainly the Orion's numbers are better. They should be - the basic Orion costs five times what the basic K2 costs! Compare the price of a K2/100 with SSB, 160 and noise blanker with an Orion II and some filters, and see the price differential. > Certainly factors like unit size and bulk, pride of building, and the > fact hat the K2 is not software based > are important, but is the Omni a functionally better rig? In some ways the Orion II wins - as it should, because it's much more complex and much more expensive. The question (for me) isn't whether the Orion receiver outperforms the K2 receiver in some ways, but rather how the K2's receiver manages to compete in *any* way with rigs costing so much more and with so much more complexity. OTOH, try running the Orion from a 7 AH SLA battery for any length of time. That's a performance measure, too. IMHO, the K2 wasn't really meant to compete directly with most other HF ham rigs. Rather, it was meant to be an alternative to them, by focusing more on some things than the usual Yaecomwood. (CW performance, low power drain, ability of the owner to build and maintain, excellent receiver performance without too much complexity, ability to add options over time, etc.) IOW, the K2 offers a unique alternative. But I still wish the knobs and displays were bigger. 73 de Jim, N2EY _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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