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Jeffrey Otterson

s/n ratio of this list

The S/N ratio of this list has descended below 1.0 -- way below.

Eric: Could we please have an "elecraft-announce" list, that provides only
announcements from Elecraft (products & firmware & other *useful* news) and
allows no other posters? That would be extremely useful. I don't have
time to dig through the flames to find that 1% nugget.

Thanks for your consideration.

Jeff n1kdo
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Re: s/n ratio of this list

Yes please!!
Thank you!

Jorge - KC5RY

> On Jan 21, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Jeffrey Otterson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> The S/N ratio of this list has descended below 1.0 -- way below.
>
> Eric: Could we please have an "elecraft-announce" list, that provides only
> announcements from Elecraft (products & firmware & other *useful* news) and
> allows no other posters? That would be extremely useful. I don't have
> time to dig through the flames to find that 1% nugget.
>
> Thanks for your consideration.
>
> Jeff n1kdo
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Wes (N7WS)

Re: s/n ratio of this list

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Some would then say, use JT65.

On 1/21/2015 7:50 AM, Jeffrey Otterson wrote:
> The S/N ratio of this list has descended below 1.0 -- way below.
>
[snipped to spare the reader]
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I second this notion of an "elecraft-announce" list,that provides only announcements from Elecraft.
I would find that quite useful

From: Jeffrey Otterson <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:50 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] s/n ratio of this list

The S/N ratio of this list has descended below 1.0 -- way below.

Eric: Could we please have an "elecraft-announce" list, that provides only
announcements from Elecraft (products & firmware & other *useful* news) and
allows no other posters? That would be extremely useful. I don't have
time to dig through the flames to find that 1% nugget.

Thanks for your consideration.

Jeff n1kdo
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Re: s/n ratio of this list

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I have a better suggestion; how about an [Announcement] tag in the subject line that people could use to filter messages? That would be far less work for Eric in the long run, and it would allow discussion on said announcements to occur; even if a separate list was set up for them, it would inevitably happen that the discussion would come to this list, whether we wanted to read it or not.
Matthew PittsN8OHU

From: Jeffrey Otterson <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:50 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] s/n ratio of this list

The S/N ratio of this list has descended below 1.0 -- way below.

Eric: Could we please have an "elecraft-announce" list, that provides only
announcements from Elecraft (products & firmware & other *useful* news) and
allows no other posters? That would be extremely useful. I don't have
time to dig through the flames to find that 1% nugget.

Thanks for your consideration.

Jeff n1kdo
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Ken G Kopp

Re: s/n ratio of this list

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The delete key remains the best "noise limiter". There are a few list
posters that I've learned to delete on sight without reading.

Let's not have Eric think for us ... he has more important matters to
attend to.

73

Ken - K0PP
On Jan 21, 2015 7:50 AM, "Jeffrey Otterson" <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> The S/N ratio of this list has descended below 1.0 -- way below.
>
> Eric: Could we please have an "elecraft-announce" list, that provides only
> announcements from Elecraft (products & firmware & other *useful* news) and
> allows no other posters? That would be extremely useful. I don't have
> time to dig through the flames to find that 1% nugget.
>
> Thanks for your consideration.
>
> Jeff n1kdo
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NK7Z

Re: s/n ratio of this list

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That would work for me... Just filter on the announce tag, and move the
rest to a discussion folder I can look at as needed...
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On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 17:11 +0000, Matthew Pitts via Elecraft wrote:

> I have a better suggestion; how about an [Announcement] tag in the subject line that people could use to filter messages? That would be far less work for Eric in the long run, and it would allow discussion on said announcements to occur; even if a separate list was set up for them, it would inevitably happen that the discussion would come to this list, whether we wanted to read it or not.
> Matthew PittsN8OHU
>
> From: Jeffrey Otterson <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:50 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] s/n ratio of this list
>
> The S/N ratio of this list has descended below 1.0 -- way below.
>
> Eric: Could we please have an "elecraft-announce" list, that provides only
> announcements from Elecraft (products & firmware & other *useful* news) and
> allows no other posters? That would be extremely useful. I don't have
> time to dig through the flames to find that 1% nugget.
>
> Thanks for your consideration.
>
> Jeff n1kdo
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Phil Hystad-3

Re: s/n ratio of this list

That works as long as some discussion does not start up on the
[Announcement] tag. Or, if people can remember to be diligent, before
starting discussion they can remove the [Announcement] tag.

By the way, I already filter out a small set of e-mails (from the "from:" tag)
because I don't want to miss anything they say. These are filtered merely
by marking them with flag (Mac mail). This set is somewhat obvious and
includes: Wayne, Eric, and about a dozen others whose technical
expertise & knowledge is far more than mine (thus, reading their messages puts me in
learning mode most of the time).

73, phil, K7PEH

> On Jan 21, 2015, at 10:26 AM, David Cole <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> That would work for me... Just filter on the announce tag, and move the
> rest to a discussion folder I can look at as needed...
> --
> Thanks and 73's,
> For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> www.nk7z.net
> for MixW support see;
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> for Dopplergram information see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> for MM-SSTV see:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
>
>
> On Wed, 2015-01-21 at 17:11 +0000, Matthew Pitts via Elecraft wrote:
>> I have a better suggestion; how about an [Announcement] tag in the subject line that people could use to filter messages? That would be far less work for Eric in the long run, and it would allow discussion on said announcements to occur; even if a separate list was set up for them, it would inevitably happen that the discussion would come to this list, whether we wanted to read it or not.
>> Matthew PittsN8OHU
>>
>> From: Jeffrey Otterson <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:50 AM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] s/n ratio of this list
>>
>> The S/N ratio of this list has descended below 1.0 -- way below.
>>
>> Eric: Could we please have an "elecraft-announce" list, that provides only
>> announcements from Elecraft (products & firmware & other *useful* news) and
>> allows no other posters? That would be extremely useful. I don't have
>> time to dig through the flames to find that 1% nugget.
>>
>> Thanks for your consideration.
>>
>> Jeff n1kdo
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g8kbvdave

Re: s/n ratio of this list

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> Subject: [Elecraft] s/n ratio of this list
>
> The S/N ratio of this list has descended below 1.0 -- way below.
>
> Eric: Could we please have an "elecraft-announce" list, that provides
> only announcements from Elecraft (products & firmware & other *useful*
> news) and allows no other posters? That would be extremely useful. I
> don't have time to dig through the flames to find that 1% nugget.
>
> Thanks for your consideration.
>
> Jeff n1kdo

Indeed, more like n:s ratio these days.

[Elecraft Announce] would work for me too.

73.

Dave G0WBX.

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Deni F5VJC

Re: s/n ratio of this list

The more interesting signals are often down in the noise...

73, Deni - F5VJC

On 22 January 2015 at 14:55, Dave B <[hidden email]> wrote:

> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: [Elecraft] s/n ratio of this list
> >
> > The S/N ratio of this list has descended below 1.0 -- way below.
> >
> > Eric: Could we please have an "elecraft-announce" list, that provides
> > only announcements from Elecraft (products & firmware & other *useful*
> > news) and allows no other posters? That would be extremely useful. I
> > don't have time to dig through the flames to find that 1% nugget.
> >
> > Thanks for your consideration.
> >
> > Jeff n1kdo
>
> Indeed, more like n:s ratio these days.
>
> [Elecraft Announce] would work for me too.
>
> 73.
>
> Dave G0WBX.
>
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Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2

Re: s/n ratio of this list

No need for another list.

Sort on names or subject works just fine.

73
Arie PA3A

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