Need some help in settling dispute, please bring some cold beer on this one.
Using our KX1 with a 2 watt output with a antenna with an advertised gain of 2.6 db. Will a 2.6 db gain give us an output be an effectively 3.8 watts. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Yes. You are correct.
With 3dB gain you would have 4 watts ERP 73 Jim W7RY -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of mc Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 12:07 PM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] settle a distpute with the KX1 Need some help in settling dispute, please bring some cold beer on this one. Using our KX1 with a 2 watt output with a antenna with an advertised gain of 2.6 db. Will a 2.6 db gain give us an output be an effectively 3.8 watts. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> Need some help in settling dispute, please bring some cold beer on > this one. > > Using our KX1 with a 2 watt output with a antenna with an advertised > gain of 2.6 db. Will a 2.6 db gain give us an output be an effectively > 3.8 watts. > > _______________________________________________ > > gain figures. Is it dbi, dbd,? Etc Point two. This might be 2.6 dbi, gain over an isotropic radiator, a hypothetical antenna. However, nobody uses anything that is an isotropic radiator. Look up isotropic radiator. Similar to "black body radiation". Sort of impossible to achieve. However, if the 2.6db gain were 2.6dbd, (gain over a dipole), you would realize a nearly doubling in effective radiated power (in a certain direction) over the original dipole in the same direction. . Then there is the whole discussion about what it effectively does to the actual received signal. Worldradio magazine has a monthly column about "aerials", which constantly discusses these issues. Bottom line, better antenna, better signal. How much better? That is subjective, even with the decimal points. Boys and girls? What am I missing here? Antennas are as mystical as radio itself, and it will be hard to collect your beer on this one.. Ron KB6GK _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Saturday 08 October 2005 19:07, mc wrote:
> Need some help in settling dispute, please bring some cold beer on this one. > > Using our KX1 with a 2 watt output with a antenna with an advertised gain of > 2.6 db. Will a 2.6 db gain give us an output be an effectively 3.8 watts. 2.6 dB = 0.26 B 10 ^ 0.26 = 1.82 1.82 * 2 = 3.64 W Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962 -- _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Sounds about right.
On Saturday 08 Oct 2005 19:07, mc wrote: > Need some help in settling dispute, please bring some cold beer on this one. > > Using our KX1 with a 2 watt output with a antenna with an advertised gain of > 2.6 db. Will a 2.6 db gain give us an output be an effectively 3.8 watts. > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 10/8/2005 12:49:46 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [hidden email] writes: On Saturday 08 October 2005 19:07, mc wrote: > Need some help in settling dispute, please bring some cold beer on this one. > > Using our KX1 with a 2 watt output with a antenna with an advertised gain of > 2.6 db. Will a 2.6 db gain give us an output be an effectively 3.8 watts. 2.6 dB = 0.26 B 10 ^ 0.26 = 1.82 1.82 * 2 = 3.64 W Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962 -- _______________________________________________ Well, I'm too lazy to do the math, but 3 db is a double in power--the scale is logrithmic, so 2.6 db should be damn close to 3.64 watts--certainly close enough to not make a hoot of difference between that and what 3 db would do. I'm probably not going to win anything here, but Brit beer is so good, I just had to chime in!!!! Dave W7AQK _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Hi mc:
It'll give you an 'advertised' 3.8 watts! Or course, REAL LIFE output could be something completely different. 73, Tom N0SS At 02:07 PM 10/8/2005, mc wrote: >Need some help in settling dispute, please bring some cold beer on this one. > >Using our KX1 with a 2 watt output with a antenna with an advertised gain >of 2.6 db. Will a 2.6 db gain give us an output be an effectively 3.8 watts. > >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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