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Brian Lloyd-6
Knowing the penchant for CW that many of you have, I thought I would  
ask the following question here.

Does anyone have a design for a very simple iambic key that can be  
made with simple materials and hand tools? The kids are starting to  
send CW and I am finding they are having a LOT of trouble with a  
straight key. Most immediately gravitate to the bencher so I am trying  
to find a way to make a $5 paddle.

Brian Lloyd
Granite Bay Montessori School          9330 Sierra College Bl
brian AT gbmontessori DOT com          Roseville, CA 95661
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RE: simple iambic paddle

Darwin, Keith
Iambic or just paddles?  I think single-lever would be easier to home
brew.  I envision a hack saw blade plus a couple of bolts for contacts,
all on a wooden base.  If you want iambic, that would be more difficult.

How much is the black widow kit?  I'm thinking it's like $30 or
something but I don't recall and haven't done the internet search.

When teaching my kids morse, I too found they had a much easier time
with the paddles than the straight key.  In fact, they were both able to
learn iambic (squeeze) keying with less effort than learning the
straight key.

- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 711 -

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Lloyd

Does anyone have a design for a very simple iambic key that can be made
with simple materials and hand tools? The kids are starting to send CW
and I am finding they are having a LOT of trouble with a straight key.
Most immediately gravitate to the bencher so I am trying to find a way
to make a $5 paddle.
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Re: simple iambic paddle

Brian Lloyd-6

On Apr 24, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Darwin, Keith wrote:

> Iambic or just paddles?  I think single-lever would be easier to home
> brew.  I envision a hack saw blade plus a couple of bolts for  
> contacts,
> all on a wooden base.  If you want iambic, that would be more  
> difficult.

Yes, it would. Some have discovered how much easier it is to use the  
iambic feature to insert an element into a string of another element.

> How much is the black widow kit?  I'm thinking it's like $30 or
> something but I don't recall and haven't done the internet search.

I have never heard of it. I will go look for it.

> When teaching my kids morse, I too found they had a much easier time
> with the paddles than the straight key.  In fact, they were both  
> able to
> learn iambic (squeeze) keying with less effort than learning the
> straight key.

That is what I am finding as well. As a sometimes-musician I find that  
I personally have no problem with timing and rhythm with a straight  
key but most of the kids just aren't there.

Brian Lloyd
Granite Bay Montessori School          9330 Sierra College Bl
brian AT gbmontessori DOT com          Roseville, CA 95661
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Re: simple iambic paddle

n6wg
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Brian
You could make an extremely simple paddle
from a piece of a hacksaw blade for the arm,
and two brass screws for the dit and dah
contacts.

Good luck and 73
Bob N6WG

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Lloyd" <[hidden email]>
To: "Elecraft reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:39 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] simple iambic paddle


> Knowing the penchant for CW that many of you have, I thought I would
> ask the following question here.
>
> Does anyone have a design for a very simple iambic key that can be
> made with simple materials and hand tools? The kids are starting to
> send CW and I am finding they are having a LOT of trouble with a
> straight key. Most immediately gravitate to the bencher so I am
trying
> to find a way to make a $5 paddle.
>
> Brian Lloyd
> Granite Bay Montessori School          9330 Sierra College Bl
> brian AT gbmontessori DOT com          Roseville, CA 95661
> +1.916.367.2131 (voice)                +1.791.912.8170 (fax)
>
> PGP key ID:          12095C52A32A1B6C
> PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0  CC09 1209 5C52 A32A
1B6C

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RE: simple iambic paddle

Darwin, Keith
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>> How much is the black widow kit?  I'm thinking it's like $30 or
>> something but I don't recall and haven't done the internet search.

>I have never heard of it. I will go look for it.

Never mind.  I checked.  It's over $60.  You can get the Kent paddles as
a kit too, but they are more.


> That is what I am finding as well. As a sometimes-musician I find
> that I personally have no problem with timing and rhythm with a
> straight key but most of the kids just aren't there.

I am a musician (play every week) and I have no problems with straight
key timing.  I play guitar, bass and a bit of drums.  My son is a
drummer (kit & general percussion) and bassist (better than me).  He has
a very good internal sense of rhythm.  He found the paddles more
intuitive than the straight key (but not by much).  My other son plays
saxophone.  His sense of timing isn't quite as good but he's still
pretty good.  He found the straight key to be much harder than paddles.

So even amongst musicians with good rhythm abilities, paddles are easier
than the straight key.


- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 711 -
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RE: simple iambic paddle

Darwin, Keith
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I suppose two hack saw blades could be used to make a twin lever keyer
with not a whole lot more work.

Or there's the time-honored tradition of hooking 2 straight keys
bottom-to-bottom, turning them on their sides and using them as an
iambic paddle.

- Keith N1AS -
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- K3 711 -

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To: Brian Lloyd; Elecraft reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] simple iambic paddle

Brian
You could make an extremely simple paddle from a piece of a hacksaw
blade for the arm, and two brass screws for the dit and dah contacts.

Good luck and 73
Bob N6WG
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Re: simple iambic paddle

David Cutter
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As others have said, my first paddle was a hacksaw blade but take care of
the sharp points!

Better is a strip of pcb material, or 2 strips with a separator for iambic.
>From memory I used about 5mm wide and about 40mm from the fulcrum, which can
be just a wood block with 2 slots cut and a screw through to pinch together.
If you start to get ambitious, you could make the whole keyer/oscillator on
the pcb, perhaps a TIC keyer.

I did this to fit inside the base of a Norcal 20 with the paddle sticking
out of the side to which I screwed a pair of Kent paddle handles.  You could
just shape the pcbs into large finger pads.

David
G3UNA


----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 5:39 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] simple iambic paddle


> Knowing the penchant for CW that many of you have, I thought I would  ask
> the following question here.
>
> Does anyone have a design for a very simple iambic key that can be  made
> with simple materials and hand tools? The kids are starting to  send CW
> and I am finding they are having a LOT of trouble with a  straight key.
> Most immediately gravitate to the bencher so I am trying  to find a way to
> make a $5 paddle.
>
> Brian Lloyd
> Granite Bay Montessori School          9330 Sierra College Bl
> brian AT gbmontessori DOT com          Roseville, CA 95661
> +1.916.367.2131 (voice)                +1.791.912.8170 (fax)
>
> PGP key ID:          12095C52A32A1B6C
> PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0  CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
>
>
>
>
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Re: simple iambic paddle

Ian Stirling, G4ICV, AB2GR
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On Thursday 24 April 2008 12:39:01 pm Brian Lloyd wrote:
 
> Does anyone have a design for a very simple iambic key that can be  
> made with simple materials and hand tools?

  I made one when I built The Ultimate Keyer Mk2 by G3RVM
in the February 1980 issue of Radio Communication.
I used two thin strips of copper clad board. Mine was
double sided but singe sided is all that's needed.
I sawed a small diecast box to get two nice right angle
brackets and screwed them on the base of the main diecast
box where I had the electronics. The PCB strips came out
the front of the box separated about half an inch.
I used stick-on rubber feet as the thumb abd finger contacts.
  For the switch contacts, I drilled quarter inch staggered
holes in the PCBs and using the other two corners of the
cut box, mounted them outside the PCBs with a long screw
going through each PCB hole.  So the mounts for the
screws are both outside the strips.  The PCB strips were
nicely springy and I adjusted the screws to a very fine
touch.
  I bought a Bencher paddle soon afterwards.
I have no idea why I dismantled my own paddles; I remember
their being just as good as the Bencher.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
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Re: simple iambic paddle

David Cutter
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I should have added how I made the contacts:  I filed slots in the side
panel and fitted M4 washers with M3 screws to give me some adjustability in
contact spacing.  That made for a rather hard contact, so, you might find a
way of springing the grounding contact and it will be more comfortable.  I
found the pcb needed tinning with solder to make a good contact pad.

David
G3UNA




> As others have said, my first paddle was a hacksaw blade but take care of
> the sharp points!
>
> Better is a strip of pcb material, or 2 strips with a separator for
> iambic.
>>From memory I used about 5mm wide and about 40mm from the fulcrum, which
>>can
> be just a wood block with 2 slots cut and a screw through to pinch
> together. If you start to get ambitious, you could make the whole
> keyer/oscillator on the pcb, perhaps a TIC keyer.
>
> I did this to fit inside the base of a Norcal 20 with the paddle sticking
> out of the side to which I screwed a pair of Kent paddle handles.  You
> could just shape the pcbs into large finger pads.
>
> David
> G3UNA
>
>
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RE: simple iambic paddle

Solosko, Robert B (Bob)
In reply to this post by Ian Stirling, G4ICV, AB2GR
 Lloyd,

        I also made one very simply and cheaply from double sided copper
clad board based on a QST article that was published several years ago
(which I have in my files at home and can send you a copy).

        Mine has a small horizontal board with a vertical board soldered
o it. The vertical board is about 2" long and 1" high and has the
contacts for the paddle arms. The paddle arms are a little narrower and
about an inch longer than the vertical board. The attached to each side
of the vertical board at the back with several layers of double sided
foam tape, giving a spacing between the paddle arms and the center
vertical board of about 1/8" and between each other of about 3/8". The
spacing can be changed by using more or fewer layers of foam tape. The
foam tape acts as the spring, as well as an insulator between the center
vertical board and the paddle arms. The whole thing is attached to an
Altoids box that's filled with pennies to give it a "heavy" base. I used
this for many QSOs as I was getting my code speed up.

        73,

Bob W1SRB

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Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:49 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] simple iambic paddle

On Thursday 24 April 2008 12:39:01 pm Brian Lloyd wrote:
 
> Does anyone have a design for a very simple iambic key that can be
> made with simple materials and hand tools?

  I made one when I built The Ultimate Keyer Mk2 by G3RVM in the
February 1980 issue of Radio Communication.
I used two thin strips of copper clad board. Mine was double sided but
singe sided is all that's needed.
I sawed a small diecast box to get two nice right angle brackets and
screwed them on the base of the main diecast box where I had the
electronics. The PCB strips came out the front of the box separated
about half an inch.
I used stick-on rubber feet as the thumb abd finger contacts.
  For the switch contacts, I drilled quarter inch staggered holes in the
PCBs and using the other two corners of the cut box, mounted them
outside the PCBs with a long screw going through each PCB hole.  So the
mounts for the screws are both outside the strips.  The PCB strips were
nicely springy and I adjusted the screws to a very fine touch.
  I bought a Bencher paddle soon afterwards.
I have no idea why I dismantled my own paddles; I remember their being
just as good as the Bencher.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
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Re: simple iambic paddle

Ed - K9EW
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Hi Brian,

Take a look at my website ( www.k9ew.us )for some homebrew key /
paddle ideas.  Most were copied or adapted from the designs of others
that I found on the Internet.  Look under Projects / Paddles and Keys.

They are very low-tech, and don't require much skill to build.  And
they all work!

73,
ed - k9ew
www.k9ew.us

On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Brian Lloyd <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Knowing the penchant for CW that many of you have, I thought I would ask the
> following question here.
>
> Does anyone have a design for a very simple iambic key that can be made with
> simple materials and hand tools? The kids are starting to send CW and I am
> finding they are having a LOT of trouble with a straight key. Most
> immediately gravitate to the bencher so I am trying to find a way to make a
> $5 paddle.
>
> Brian Lloyd
> Granite Bay Montessori School          9330 Sierra College Bl
> brian AT gbmontessori DOT com          Roseville, CA 95661
> +1.916.367.2131 (voice)                +1.791.912.8170 (fax)
>
> PGP key ID:          12095C52A32A1B6C
> PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0  CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
>
>
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Re: simple iambic paddle

Niel Skousen-2
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there was a small pcb based training keyer kit, manhatten style, several
years ago.  Had a tick based keyer, a small piezo spkr, a single switch,
and couple resistors.  The paddles and everything was built from the raw
PCB materials.

took about 20 min or so to make, and as I recall was $12 or so...

Anybody remember a link to it ? is it still available ?  Vaguely seems
it was a Norcal project kit for the Az hamfest.  Doug Hendricks may
remember better that I.

Should fit the bill perfectly.

Niel
WA7SSA

Brian Lloyd wrote:

>
> On Apr 24, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Darwin, Keith wrote:
>
>> Iambic or just paddles?  I think single-lever would be easier to home
>> brew.  I envision a hack saw blade plus a couple of bolts for contacts,
>> all on a wooden base.  If you want iambic, that would be more difficult.
>
> Yes, it would. Some have discovered how much easier it is to use the
> iambic feature to insert an element into a string of another element.
>
>> How much is the black widow kit?  I'm thinking it's like $30 or
>> something but I don't recall and haven't done the internet search.
>
> I have never heard of it. I will go look for it.
>
>> When teaching my kids morse, I too found they had a much easier time
>> with the paddles than the straight key.  In fact, they were both able to
>> learn iambic (squeeze) keying with less effort than learning the
>> straight key.
>
> That is what I am finding as well. As a sometimes-musician I find that I
> personally have no problem with timing and rhythm with a straight key
> but most of the kids just aren't there.
>
> Brian Lloyd
> Granite Bay Montessori School          9330 Sierra College Bl
> brian AT gbmontessori DOT com          Roseville, CA 95661
> +1.916.367.2131 (voice)                +1.791.912.8170 (fax)
>
> PGP key ID:          12095C52A32A1B6C
> PGP key fingerprint: 3B1D BA11 4913 3254 B6E0  CC09 1209 5C52 A32A 1B6C
>
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Re: Re: simple iambic paddle

Deni F5VJC
Or you could forget about all the expensive mechanical junk, hacksaw
blades etc and just build one of these cool devices.

http://www.cwtouchkeyer.com/

Works perfectly,  and you can customise it as you wish.

73,Deni
F5VJC

2008/4/24 Niel Skousen <[hidden email]>:

> there was a small pcb based training keyer kit, manhatten style, several
> years ago.  Had a tick based keyer, a small piezo spkr, a single switch, and
> couple resistors.  The paddles and everything was built from the raw PCB
> materials.
>
>  took about 20 min or so to make, and as I recall was $12 or so...
>
>  Anybody remember a link to it ? is it still available ?  Vaguely seems it
> was a Norcal project kit for the Az hamfest.  Doug Hendricks may remember
> better that I.
>
>  Should fit the bill perfectly.
>
>  Niel
>  WA7SSA
>
>
>
>  Brian Lloyd wrote:
>
> >
> > On Apr 24, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Darwin, Keith wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Iambic or just paddles?  I think single-lever would be easier to home
> > > brew.  I envision a hack saw blade plus a couple of bolts for contacts,
> > > all on a wooden base.  If you want iambic, that would be more difficult.
> > >
> >
> > Yes, it would. Some have discovered how much easier it is to use the
> iambic feature to insert an element into a string of another element.
> >
> >
> > > How much is the black widow kit?  I'm thinking it's like $30 or
> > > something but I don't recall and haven't done the internet search.
> > >
> >
> > I have never heard of it. I will go look for it.
> >
> >
> > > When teaching my kids morse, I too found they had a much easier time
> > > with the paddles than the straight key.  In fact, they were both able to
> > > learn iambic (squeeze) keying with less effort than learning the
> > > straight key.
> > >
> >
> > That is what I am finding as well. As a sometimes-musician I find that I
> personally have no problem with timing and rhythm with a straight key but
> most of the kids just aren't there.
> >
> > Brian Lloyd
> > Granite Bay Montessori School          9330 Sierra College Bl
> > brian AT gbmontessori DOT com          Roseville, CA 95661
> > +1.916.367.2131 (voice)                +1.791.912.8170 (fax)
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Re: Re: simple iambic paddle

M0XDF
Or you could save your money and do it with two jubilee clips (hose  
clips) on your fingers.
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On 24 Apr 2008, at 20:33, F5vjc wrote:

> Or you could forget about all the expensive mechanical junk, hacksaw
> blades etc and just build one of these cool devices.
>
> http://www.cwtouchkeyer.com/
>
> Works perfectly,  and you can customise it as you wish.
>
> 73,Deni
> F5VJC
>
> 2008/4/24 Niel Skousen <[hidden email]>:
>> there was a small pcb based training keyer kit, manhatten style,  
>> several
>> years ago.  Had a tick based keyer, a small piezo spkr, a single  
>> switch, and
>> couple resistors.  The paddles and everything was built from the  
>> raw PCB
>> materials.
>>
>> took about 20 min or so to make, and as I recall was $12 or so...
>>
>> Anybody remember a link to it ? is it still available ?  Vaguely  
>> seems it
>> was a Norcal project kit for the Az hamfest.  Doug Hendricks may  
>> remember
>> better that I.
>>
>> Should fit the bill perfectly.
>>
>> Niel
>> WA7SSA
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>> Brian Lloyd wrote:
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>>>
>>> On Apr 24, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Darwin, Keith wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Iambic or just paddles?  I think single-lever would be easier to  
>>>> home
>>>> brew.  I envision a hack saw blade plus a couple of bolts for  
>>>> contacts,
>>>> all on a wooden base.  If you want iambic, that would be more  
>>>> difficult.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, it would. Some have discovered how much easier it is to use the
>> iambic feature to insert an element into a string of another element.
>>>
>>>
>>>> How much is the black widow kit?  I'm thinking it's like $30 or
>>>> something but I don't recall and haven't done the internet search.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have never heard of it. I will go look for it.
>>>
>>>
>>>> When teaching my kids morse, I too found they had a much easier  
>>>> time
>>>> with the paddles than the straight key.  In fact, they were both  
>>>> able to
>>>> learn iambic (squeeze) keying with less effort than learning the
>>>> straight key.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is what I am finding as well. As a sometimes-musician I find  
>>> that I
>> personally have no problem with timing and rhythm with a straight  
>> key but
>> most of the kids just aren't there.
>>>
>>> Brian Lloyd
>>> Granite Bay Montessori School          9330 Sierra College Bl
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RE: Re: simple iambic paddle

Richard Kent

Would the travel keyer/paddle from MFJ get the point across???

Richard Kent WD8AJG K2-5296

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Re: Re: simple iambic paddle

Gary D Krause
I wanted some paddles for another rig but, I couldn't see buying another
one.  So, I made my own from bailing wire.  They work perfectly.

Gary, N7HTS
K2

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Re: Re: simple iambic paddle

Gary D Krause
Hi Scott, these are the paddles that I made.
Hi Scott,

These are the paddles that I made.

Gary, N7HTS
K2


Scott McDowell wrote:

> Gary
> I was raised on a farm and have used bailing wire all my life
> but making a cw paddle out of it is new to me.
> Would you be willing to share how you did it?
> Thanks
> 73
> Scott N5SM
>
> On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Gary Krause <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
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>     I wanted some paddles for another rig but, I couldn't see buying
>     another one.  So, I made my own from bailing wire.  They work
>     perfectly.
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>     Gary, N7HTS
>     K2
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Re: simple iambic paddle

dave.wilburn
In reply to this post by Brian Lloyd-6
http://electronicsusa.com/mk.html

These look like they are made pretty simple.  I have a couple of them,
never used them much because my hands are too big and there is no
weight to them.  But it would work fine for most folks.  Especially if
velcroed or screwed to a board.


Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982
K3/100 - S/N 766

"For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will
never know."


Brian Lloyd wrote:

> Knowing the penchant for CW that many of you have, I thought I would ask
> the following question here.
>
> Does anyone have a design for a very simple iambic key that can be made
> with simple materials and hand tools? The kids are starting to send CW
> and I am finding they are having a LOT of trouble with a straight key.
> Most immediately gravitate to the bencher so I am trying to find a way
> to make a $5 paddle.
>
> Brian Lloyd
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