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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Rich-4
OK I thought this was just a fun thing, I did not know it was actually a
serious thing.

Frankly a K3 is a K3 and a K3S is a K3S.   The difference in each radio
can vary wildly based on what the owner has installed in the radio as
far as options go.   That is the bottom line.   To me the K3S options
that are available for the K3 are nothing more than additional options.

As for making a used purchase, the SN is critical.

Rich

On 1/11/2019 9:30 AM, John K9UWA wrote:

> One would think that K3s represents multiple K3 radios. As in Plural of K3.
>
> I am sure that it causes some confusion to many who read the Elecraft reflector or
> other places where the radios are discussed.
>
> I do thank Wayne and Eric for a list that says. The new radio has the following
> differences to the K3 radio. As well as the portions of the K3 that can not be
> upgraded to equal the new K3S radio.
>
> John k9uwa
> John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Don Schroder
Hi all,



It’s very obvious to me. Elecraft began with a K1, then “updated” to a K2 (which I am building). Then they “updated” to a K3, and all the new mods that go on it. So, it’s very obvious to me, that the new “updated” radio should be called (ready for this?), THE K4 !



It naturally follows with their earlier naming scheme.



Don, KE0PVQ



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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

OK I thought this was just a fun thing, I did not know it was actually a
serious thing.

Frankly a K3 is a K3 and a K3S is a K3S.   The difference in each radio
can vary wildly based on what the owner has installed in the radio as
far as options go.   That is the bottom line.   To me the K3S options
that are available for the K3 are nothing more than additional options.

As for making a used purchase, the SN is critical.

Rich

On 1/11/2019 9:30 AM, John K9UWA wrote:

> One would think that K3s represents multiple K3 radios. As in Plural of K3.
>
> I am sure that it causes some confusion to many who read the Elecraft reflector or
> other places where the radios are discussed.
>
> I do thank Wayne and Eric for a list that says. The new radio has the following
> differences to the K3 radio. As well as the portions of the K3 that can not be
> upgraded to equal the new K3S radio.
>
> John k9uwa
> John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF
> Antique Radio Restorations
> [hidden email]
> Visit our Web Site at:
> http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
> 4836 Ranch Road
> Leo, IN 46765
> USA
> 1-260-637-6426
>
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Don Wilhelm
Not quite right.  The K2 was first - named after the mountain.
The K1 came later, followed by the KX1.
Then came the K3.  The KX3 came after that - then the K3S, and finally,
the KX2.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 1/11/2019 10:56 AM, Don Schroder wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>
>
> It’s very obvious to me. Elecraft began with a K1, then “updated” to a K2 (which I am building). Then they “updated” to a K3, and all the new mods that go on it. So, it’s very obvious to me, that the new “updated” radio should be called (ready for this?), THE K4 !
>
>
>
> It naturally follows with their earlier naming scheme.
>
>
>
> Don, KE0PVQ
>
>
>
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>
>
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> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 8:54:39 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?
>
> OK I thought this was just a fun thing, I did not know it was actually a
> serious thing.
>
> Frankly a K3 is a K3 and a K3S is a K3S.   The difference in each radio
> can vary wildly based on what the owner has installed in the radio as
> far as options go.   That is the bottom line.   To me the K3S options
> that are available for the K3 are nothing more than additional options.
>
> As for making a used purchase, the SN is critical.
>
> Rich
>
> On 1/11/2019 9:30 AM, John K9UWA wrote:
>> One would think that K3s represents multiple K3 radios. As in Plural of K3.
>>
>> I am sure that it causes some confusion to many who read the Elecraft reflector or
>> other places where the radios are discussed.
>>
>> I do thank Wayne and Eric for a list that says. The new radio has the following
>> differences to the K3 radio. As well as the portions of the K3 that can not be
>> upgraded to equal the new K3S radio.
>>
>> John k9uwa
>> John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF
>> Antique Radio Restorations
>> [hidden email]
>> Visit our Web Site at:
>> http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
>> 4836 Ranch Road
>> Leo, IN 46765
>> USA
>> 1-260-637-6426
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Eric Norris-2
That one was slow, waist-high, and right over the plate.  :-)

73 Eric WD6DBM

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 8:11 AM Don Wilhelm <[hidden email] wrote:

> Not quite right.  The K2 was first - named after the mountain.
> The K1 came later, followed by the KX1.
> Then came the K3.  The KX3 came after that - then the K3S, and finally,
> the KX2.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
>
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

Charlie T, K3ICH
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Yep, it almost as confusing as the progression of the Collins S-Line
receivers, from the 75S-1, 75S-2, 75S-3, 75S-3A, 75S-3B, and finally, the
75S-3C.

Personally, I feel the reason the K3s was not introduced as the K4, is that
they didn't want to make all the K3 owners feel like Icom buyers.
(Example: IC-756, IC-756PRO, IC-756PRO II, IC-756 PRO III, IC-7600 and now
the IC-7610.)
Not knocking Icom since I have owned each of them and understand their
product development & marketing strategy.
I currently have the IC-7610 as well as a K3s/P3/VGA and I like them both.

73, Charlie k3ICH

 




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To: Rich <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

Hi all,



It's very obvious to me. Elecraft began with a K1, then "updated" to a K2
(which I am building). Then they "updated" to a K3, and all the new mods
that go on it. So, it's very obvious to me, that the new "updated" radio
should be called (ready for this?), THE K4 !



It naturally follows with their earlier naming scheme.



Don, KE0PVQ



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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] whats a updated K3 called?

OK I thought this was just a fun thing, I did not know it was actually a
serious thing.

Frankly a K3 is a K3 and a K3S is a K3S.   The difference in each radio
can vary wildly based on what the owner has installed in the radio as
far as options go.   That is the bottom line.   To me the K3S options
that are available for the K3 are nothing more than additional options.

As for making a used purchase, the SN is critical.

Rich

On 1/11/2019 9:30 AM, John K9UWA wrote:
> One would think that K3s represents multiple K3 radios. As in Plural of
K3.

>
> I am sure that it causes some confusion to many who read the Elecraft
> reflector or other places where the radios are discussed.
>
> I do thank Wayne and Eric for a list that says. The new radio has the
> following differences to the K3 radio. As well as the portions of the
> K3 that can not be upgraded to equal the new K3S radio.
>
> John k9uwa
> John Goller, K9UWA & Jean Goller, N9PXF Antique Radio Restorations
> [hidden email] Visit our Web Site at:
> http://www.JohnJeanAntiqueRadio.com
> 4836 Ranch Road
> Leo, IN 46765
> USA
> 1-260-637-6426
>
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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

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An updated K3?  I think they’re called “a keeper.”

Bob Brown, N1CVX
K3 # 327

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Re: whats a updated K3 called?

K8TE
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Don,

While perhaps "obvious," the models you describe are not updates of previous
versions in the order as W3FPR pointed out in a subsequent message.  Those
radios are very different from each other in many aspects, especially
performance.  Although, each is considered by most to be a top performer in
its class.

I am amused by many who add one or more of the new K3S modules to their K3
and then call their radio a K3S.  They are not and never will be.  An
upgraded K3 can approach a K3S, but not quite get there.

I hate to start another K4 e-mail chain.  It may be too late now.  If I were
to bet, I would bet the next Elecraft top-of-the-line K? will likely use a
newer topology than the K3.  However, the K3S is number three on Rob
Sherwood's receiver performance list.

As Rob has pointed out the last several years, transmitter performance
(cleanliness) is where most radios need improvement today.  Regardless, when
operating Field Day or any multi-multi event, my K3 with
 updated (correct term in this case) synthesizers is my radio of choice.  I
have seen how many new radios "collapse" under the strain of other nearby
transmitters.  

At the same time, there are other radios with comparable performance in
similar situations.  I am anxiously waiting for the Elecraft next iteration,
whether or not it's designated K4, to take the lead.

73, Bill, K8TE


Hi all,

It’s very obvious to me. Elecraft began with a K1, then “updated” to a K2
(which I am building). Then they “updated” to a K3, and all the new mods
that go on it. So, it’s very obvious to me, that the new “updated” radio
should be called (ready for this?), THE K4 !

It naturally follows with their earlier naming scheme.

Don, KE0PVQ





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