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Geoffrey Wolf AB3LS

Forums?

Hello All,

I'm very new to the mailing list here. I'm in the process of returning my Flex
5000A so that I can purchase a K3. I was unhappy with how unfinished the Flex
felt and how buggy the software was. It's unfortunate because I'm a college
student who is studying Information Sciences. I really wanted to experience the
power of the software defined radio. Anyway, so I've convinced myself through
reading quite a bit of material on the K3 that I can make the K3 into an SDR
(with a few restrictions) with a LP-Pan and the modified PowerSDR software.

Anyway, to the main question. It looks like a lot of stuff goes through the
mailing list here when it comes to support questions etc.

I noticed that there isn't an Elecraft enthusiast forum. There seems to be some
Elecraft oriented discussion on the QRZ forums. I was wondering if anyone had
set up their own Elecraft discussion forums.

I also wanted to add that I have some relatively free server resources and I
would be happy to start up a non-official Elecraft discussion forum if interest
is shown.

So, if some interest is shown, I would love to host a forum for everyone.

Thanks!

73,

Geoffrey Wolf
AB3LS
http://www.ab3ls.com
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GARY-2

Re: Forums?

Why? This IS the Elecraft enthusiast's forum along with the best place to
stay current on Elecraft equipment issues, updates, operating tips, etc.
Gary

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of ROBERT WOLF MD
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 9:01 PM
To: Elecraft
Subject: [Elecraft] Forums?

Hello All,

I'm very new to the mailing list here. I'm in the process of returning my
Flex
5000A so that I can purchase a K3. I was unhappy with how unfinished the
Flex
felt and how buggy the software was. It's unfortunate because I'm a college
student who is studying Information Sciences. I really wanted to experience
the
power of the software defined radio. Anyway, so I've convinced myself
through
reading quite a bit of material on the K3 that I can make the K3 into an SDR

(with a few restrictions) with a LP-Pan and the modified PowerSDR software.

Anyway, to the main question. It looks like a lot of stuff goes through the
mailing list here when it comes to support questions etc.

I noticed that there isn't an Elecraft enthusiast forum. There seems to be
some
Elecraft oriented discussion on the QRZ forums. I was wondering if anyone
had
set up their own Elecraft discussion forums.

I also wanted to add that I have some relatively free server resources and I

would be happy to start up a non-official Elecraft discussion forum if
interest
is shown.

So, if some interest is shown, I would love to host a forum for everyone.

Thanks!

73,

Geoffrey Wolf
AB3LS
http://www.ab3ls.com
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Ken G Kopp

Forums?

This "forum" seems to meet the needs of most. I don't
see any advantage of "splitting" the pool of information.
It's all here ... and in one place.

What are we missing?

73!
Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Byron Servies

Re: Forums?

I don't think we are missing anything. Robert is just new here and, I
believe, in an effort to not be a bother he suggested an approach that
would facilitate his interests without disturbing the natives (so to
speak).

Robert, the list guidelines are very broad here. Ask away, follow the
rules, and if a topic gets out of hand Eric The Moderator will end the
thread. Here, I'll start:

I thought the K3 was already a software defined radio, but one that
uses an inboard computer instead of an external one?

> What are we missing?

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Geoffrey Wolf AB3LS

Re: Forums?

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Okay. Looks like I was testing the waters here a bit. I didn't mean to try to
take away anything from this mailing list. I guess, for myself anyway, would be
more willing to join a discussion forum than a mailing list. Looking through the
archives here, it looks like quite a bit of information goes through here and in
my opinion it would be easier to keep track of everything in a discussion forum.
Only my opinion. I'm not trying to change 'what is', I was merely trying to add
to what is.

Thanks for the replies!

73
Geoffrey Wolf
AB3LS
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Geoffrey Wolf AB3LS

Re: Forums?

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Oh I had forgotten to add in the last email...

What I had meant when I said making a K3 into an SDR, I guess I forgot to
clarify that I meant. I was talking about using the IF from the radio into
something like an LP-Pan and sending the raw IF data to the computer for it to
process, separate from the radio's internal DSP. I find this great though
because beside the K3 being a completely independent SDR in a box, you can
extend it to use the computer's power as well and enhance the listening
experience. This is one of the few reasons why I'm ditching the Flex for a K3.

73
Geoffrey Wolf
AB3LS

________________________________
From: Byron Servies <[hidden email]>
To: Ken - K0PP <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Sent: Sun, March 27, 2011 12:28:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Forums?

I don't think we are missing anything. Robert is just new here and, I
believe, in an effort to not be a bother he suggested an approach that
would facilitate his interests without disturbing the natives (so to
speak).

Robert, the list guidelines are very broad here. Ask away, follow the
rules, and if a topic gets out of hand Eric The Moderator will end the
thread. Here, I'll start:

I thought the K3 was already a software defined radio, but one that
uses an inboard computer instead of an external one?

> What are we missing?

--
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- CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
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w0mu

Re: Forums?

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The archives contain it all.
http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/ There are also other ways to
browse through older posts.

This list works pretty good for most.

Welcome to the list. You will love your K3 Robert! Nice to see some
new younger faces in the crowd!

Mike W0MU

On 3/26/2011 10:22 PM, Ken - K0PP wrote:

>
> This "forum" seems to meet the needs of most. I don't
> see any advantage of "splitting" the pool of information.
> It's all here ... and in one place.
>
> What are we missing?
>
> 73!
> Ken Kopp - K0PP
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AB3LS

Re: Forums?

Thank You for the welcome! I was using a different email address that was
made under my father's home Verizon account so the name was set to his name.
My name is Geoffrey. His name is Robert.

I need one little bit of advice on the mailing list thing. I created a
rather weird quick step here in Outlook so that I can reply to the mailing
list rather than the person that replied to me. However, even though I made
the rule to reply the message to [hidden email] it still adds the
person's email who I'm replying to. Is there a way to set up a rule or quick
step in Outlook 2010 so that I reply ONLY to [hidden email]?

I guess I'm being a little picky because my current method only involved me
clicking once on the person's address and hitting delete but it would be
nice if there was a cleaner method.

Thanks!

Geoffrey Wolf
AB3LS - Amateur Radio Callsign
University of Pittsburgh '14
[hidden email]
[hidden email]
(412) 450-1310

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]]
> On Behalf Of Mike Fatchett W0MU
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 12:55 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Forums?
>
> The archives contain it all.
> http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/ There are also other ways to
browse through
> older posts.
>
> This list works pretty good for most.
>
> Welcome to the list. You will love your K3 Robert! Nice to see some new
younger

> faces in the crowd!
>
> Mike W0MU
>
> On 3/26/2011 10:22 PM, Ken - K0PP wrote:
> >
> > This "forum" seems to meet the needs of most. I don't see any
> > advantage of "splitting" the pool of information.
> > It's all here ... and in one place.
> >
> > What are we missing?
> >
> > 73!
> > Ken Kopp - K0PP
> > [hidden email]
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > Elecraft mailing list
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Geoffrey Wolf
AB3LS
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grw20@pitt.edu
liltechdude13@gmail.com
http://www.ab3ls.com

Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Forums?

In reply to this post by Geoffrey Wolf AB3LS

Geoffrey,

Welcome to the Elecraft reflector, and congratulations on your choice of
the K3.

Be assured that the K3 is already a software defined radio. The fact
that it's function and operation can be modified by downloading the
firmware files makes that true. Yes, the K3 firmware is not open
source, so you must be constrained by the firmware designers at Elecraft
to provide the functions that you desire. There is a list of functions
that are to be added, and the priorities of that list changes from time
to time. As an example, the K3 External Reference was rather low on
that list until discussions on this reflector indicated more interest
than had previously determined, so that was moved to a higher priority
and is now in the final stages of testing.

The fact that the K3 contains its own internal computational engine does
not diminish the fact that it is a self contained SDR.

If your definition of an SDR requires an external computer (a definition
I see as flawed), then with the addition of the K3 IF output available
as part of the KIO3 option will allow you to use the Elecraft P3, or the
LP-Pan with either TRX Manager or PowerSDR-IF software (or software of
your own making).

PowerSDR-IF may contain just as many bugs as the Flex PowerSDR software
on which it is based, but that is different than the K3 software
(firmware). Be assured that the K3 firmware is field tested before it
is released to beta status, and if the beta does not show significant
problems, it is moved to release status. I do not see a similar paced
procedure for PowerSDR.

Yes, I personally use the K3 IF output and send it to a Softrock 6.2
receiver which also operates with TRX-Manager or PowerSDR-IF just like
LP-Pan. It is the less expensive alternative to the Elecraft P3, but
the capabilities are more limited - I cannot quickly change the span to
view just one signal like the P3 does with ease. Despite those
limitations, it is sufficient for my wants and needs (YMMV).

I do not use the audio out of PowerSDR, but prefer to operate the K3 as
usual with its own audio output and use the external computer SDR only
as a panadapter. Your choices may be different - different stokes for
different folks, but with the K3, all that is possible.

Other comments on your questions - Support -- Elecraft support is
separate from this email reflector. Yes, many support-like questions
can be answered on this reflector, but it is not "official" -- we are a
collection of users (many of whom are quite knowledgeable) who try to
help one another. Official Elecraft support is available at
[hidden email].

The Elecraft "enthusiasts forum" is right here on this reflector.
Review the archives and I believe you will find a lot of enthusiasm for
Elecraft products right here - no need to set up other discussion
forums. Eric and Wayne encourage criticism along with enthusiasm, and
they do monitor this reflector, so you have the two company principles
regularly contributing to the discussions too.

There have been several attempts to set up alternative Elecraft
discussion forums, but as far as I know, all have died for lack of
participation. This Elecraft reflector is the main place for discussion
of anything Elecraft related, be that the KX1, K1, K2, K3, the XV series
transverters or the mini-modules.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/27/2011 12:01 AM, ROBERT WOLF MD wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I'm very new to the mailing list here. I'm in the process of returning my Flex
> 5000A so that I can purchase a K3. I was unhappy with how unfinished the Flex
> felt and how buggy the software was. It's unfortunate because I'm a college
> student who is studying Information Sciences. I really wanted to experience the
> power of the software defined radio. Anyway, so I've convinced myself through
> reading quite a bit of material on the K3 that I can make the K3 into an SDR
> (with a few restrictions) with a LP-Pan and the modified PowerSDR software.
>
> Anyway, to the main question. It looks like a lot of stuff goes through the
> mailing list here when it comes to support questions etc.
>
> I noticed that there isn't an Elecraft enthusiast forum. There seems to be some
> Elecraft oriented discussion on the QRZ forums. I was wondering if anyone had
> set up their own Elecraft discussion forums.
>
> I also wanted to add that I have some relatively free server resources and I
> would be happy to start up a non-official Elecraft discussion forum if interest
> is shown.
>
> So, if some interest is shown, I would love to host a forum for everyone.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> 73,
>
> Geoffrey Wolf
> AB3LS
> http://www.ab3ls.com
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Forums?

In reply to this post by Geoffrey Wolf AB3LS

Geoffery,

Personally, I HATE those "discussion forums". The information is not
easily extractable unless one follows the discussion precisely. There
are several of the Elecraft reflector archive variations that make
access to a particular subject or thread much easier IMHO.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/27/2011 12:36 AM, Geoffrey Wolf AB3LS wrote:

> Okay. Looks like I was testing the waters here a bit. I didn't mean to try to
> take away anything from this mailing list. I guess, for myself anyway, would be
> more willing to join a discussion forum than a mailing list. Looking through the
> archives here, it looks like quite a bit of information goes through here and in
> my opinion it would be easier to keep track of everything in a discussion forum.
> Only my opinion. I'm not trying to change 'what is', I was merely trying to add
> to what is.
>
> Thanks for the replies!
>
> 73
> Geoffrey Wolf
> AB3LS
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Don Wilhelm-4

Re: Forums?

In reply to this post by AB3LS

Geoffrey,

The only way I have found (with several email clients including Outlook 2010) is to click "Reply All", and then delete the originators address from the list.
I usually do not bother with that, so the originator receives two copies of my reply - IMHO, that is a minor problem that can be dealt with by a quick press of the delete button on the recipient's computer.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 3/27/2011 1:10 AM, Geoffrey Wolf wrote:

> Thank You for the welcome! I was using a different email address that was
> made under my father's home Verizon account so the name was set to his name.
> My name is Geoffrey. His name is Robert.
>
> I need one little bit of advice on the mailing list thing. I created a
> rather weird quick step here in Outlook so that I can reply to the mailing
> list rather than the person that replied to me. However, even though I made
> the rule to reply the message to [hidden email] it still adds the
> person's email who I'm replying to. Is there a way to set up a rule or quick
> step in Outlook 2010 so that I reply ONLY to [hidden email]?
>
> I guess I'm being a little picky because my current method only involved me
> clicking once on the person's address and hitting delete but it would be
> nice if there was a cleaner method.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Geoffrey Wolf
> AB3LS - Amateur Radio Callsign
> University of Pittsburgh '14
> [hidden email]
> [hidden email]
> (412) 450-1310

Vic K2VCO

Re: Forums?

In reply to this post by AB3LS

Congratulations on being a Pitt student! I was a grad student there in the late 1960's. I
spent far more time at the W3YI station than I did studying. We had a tribander on the
10-story building across from the Cathedral of Learning -- they would not allow us to put
our antenna on the Cathedral. I worked tons of great DX from there with the beam and kW!
In my student apartment a few blocks away I had to be content with a DX60 and 20m dipole
at about 30 feet.

What does this have to do with Elecraft? Or Outlook rules? Nothing, just wanted to welcome
Geoffrey.

On 3/26/2011 10:10 PM, Geoffrey Wolf wrote:

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AB3LS

Re: Forums?

Hail to Pitt! Thanks for the welcome! W3YI has taken a bit of a dip in
activity since your time as a grad student. Right now, we do not have any HF
capabilities at the club. The beam that was on top of Benedum engineering
hall had to be taken down about a year or two ago for renovations to be
done. However, Juan Manfredi (NA0B) made sure that we would be able to 'put
the beam back up' after the renovations. That meant a brand new tower and a
StepIR DB-36 40-6m Yagi! We are extremely excited for the tower and antenna
to go up. We are waiting for a crane that will hopefully come over the
summer to bring the tower and antenna up to the top of the building. Then
the building engineers will have to install the tower, and we will probably
build the antenna (probably will have to build it on the roof). Everyone at
W3YI is hoping for this all to be done by the end of the year 2011.

Harry Bloomberg, W3YJ, also an alumni, is our repeater trustee and an active
member of W3YI. I have gotten to know Harry quite a bit and enjoy working
with him. I'm not sure how familiar you are about the current repeater setup
here at Pitt, but I'll let you know anyway. Harry has our repeater set to
443.45Mhz with about 40W ERP. The repeater is housed in a heated room on the
top of the Cathedral with other RF equipment. We use a Diamond dual bander
base for the antenna. We are in the process of setting up an APRS digipeater
that we can diplex into the repeater. We also have an EchoLink node setup.
The node number is 443450 (W3YJ-R)

So, if you ever want to connect to the repeater on EchoLink, you should find
at least myself listening to the machine.

Hope to talk to you on the air!

Geoffrey Wolf
AB3LS - Amateur Radio Callsign
University of Pittsburgh '14
[hidden email]
[hidden email]
(412) 450-1310

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]]
> On Behalf Of Vic K2VCO
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:32 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Forums?
>
> Congratulations on being a Pitt student! I was a grad student there in the
late 1960's. I
> spent far more time at the W3YI station than I did studying. We had a
tribander on the
> 10-story building across from the Cathedral of Learning -- they would not
allow us to
> put our antenna on the Cathedral. I worked tons of great DX from there
with the beam
> and kW!
> In my student apartment a few blocks away I had to be content with a DX60
and 20m
> dipole at about 30 feet.
>
> What does this have to do with Elecraft? Or Outlook rules? Nothing, just
wanted to
> welcome Geoffrey.
>
> On 3/26/2011 10:10 PM, Geoffrey Wolf wrote:
> > Thank You for the welcome! I was using a different email address that
> > was made under my father's home Verizon account so the name was set to
his name.
> > My name is Geoffrey. His name is Robert.
> >
> > I need one little bit of advice on the mailing list thing. I created a
> > rather weird quick step here in Outlook so that I can reply to the
> > mailing list rather than the person that replied to me. However, even
> > though I made the rule to reply the message to
> > [hidden email] it still adds the person's email who I'm
> > replying to. Is there a way to set up a rule or quick step in Outlook
2010 so that I

> reply ONLY to [hidden email]?
> >
> > I guess I'm being a little picky because my current method only
> > involved me clicking once on the person's address and hitting delete
> > but it would be nice if there was a cleaner method.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Geoffrey Wolf
> > AB3LS - Amateur Radio Callsign
> > University of Pittsburgh '14
> > [hidden email]
> > [hidden email]
> > (412) 450-1310
>
> --
> Vic, K2VCO
> Fresno CA
> http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/
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Geoffrey Wolf
AB3LS
University of Pittsburgh '14
grw20@pitt.edu
liltechdude13@gmail.com
http://www.ab3ls.com

AB3LS

Re: Forums?

In reply to this post by Don Wilhelm-4

Okay. Well it looks like on my end anyway, that I didn't receive duplicate
emails. Maybe the mailing list software noticed that you were replying to me
AND the mailing list and didn't send me an email because of that since you
had already replied to me directly.

That works out then.

Thanks for the tip!

Geoffrey Wolf
AB3LS - Amateur Radio Callsign
University of Pittsburgh '14
[hidden email]
[hidden email]
(412) 450-1310

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Don Wilhelm [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 1:26 AM
> To: Geoffrey Wolf
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Forums?
>
>
>
> Geoffrey,
>
> The only way I have found (with several email clients including Outlook

2010) is to
> click "Reply All", and then delete the originators address from the list.
> I usually do not bother with that, so the originator receives two copies
of my reply -
> IMHO, that is a minor problem that can be dealt with by a quick press of
the delete

> button on the recipient's computer.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
>
> On 3/27/2011 1:10 AM, Geoffrey Wolf wrote:
> > Thank You for the welcome! I was using a different email address that
> > was made under my father's home Verizon account so the name was set to

his name.
> > My name is Geoffrey. His name is Robert.
> >
> > I need one little bit of advice on the mailing list thing. I created a
> > rather weird quick step here in Outlook so that I can reply to the
> > mailing list rather than the person that replied to me. However, even
> > though I made the rule to reply the message to
> > [hidden email] it still adds the person's email who I'm
> > replying to. Is there a way to set up a rule or quick step in Outlook
2010 so that I

Geoffrey Wolf
AB3LS
University of Pittsburgh '14
grw20@pitt.edu
liltechdude13@gmail.com
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Edward R Cole

Forums?

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Geoffrey,

I am in the process of setting up my K3 with two LP-Pan feeding a
M-Audio Delta-44 dual-channel soundcard. The reason for the LP-Pan
is to provide I-Q signals to a computer so that custom SDR sw may be
used (or developed). The K3 has an internal MCU with Elecraft's
proprietary sw, but that is not open for sw developers to
access. Therefore, the standard K3 falls short of its promise as a
SDR. Using the LP-Pan as outboard SDR converters one can use the K3
with other SDR programs. That is the second part of the SDR
"promise" of non-obsolescence.

This is not anyway meant to be criticism of the Elecraft staff and
their amazing continual development of the K3 firmware. For most of
us having them do the sw development is welcome (so we do not have to
do it ourselves).

I am in a third category of wanting to run a different SDR program
using the K3. In time the P3 may evolve into an open SDR with
external connection to a computer. The LP-Pan provide this now
(other SDR can be used on the K3 1st IF in a similar manner).

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Oh I had forgotten to add in the last email...

What I had meant when I said making a K3 into an SDR, I guess I forgot to
clarify that I meant. I was talking about using the IF from the radio into
something like an LP-Pan and sending the raw IF data to the computer for it to
process, separate from the radio's internal DSP. I find this great though
because beside the K3 being a completely independent SDR in a box, you can
extend it to use the computer's power as well and enhance the listening
experience. This is one of the few reasons why I'm ditching the Flex for a K3.

73
Geoffrey Wolf
AB3LS

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Re: Forums?

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Geoffrey Wolf AB3LS wrote

I noticed that there isn't an Elecraft enthusiast forum. There seems to be some
Elecraft oriented discussion on the QRZ forums. I was wondering if anyone had
set up their own Elecraft discussion forums.

I also wanted to add that I have some relatively free server resources and I
would be happy to start up a non-official Elecraft discussion forum if interest
is shown.

So, if some interest is shown, I would love to host a forum for everyone.

Hi Geoffrey. It was tried two or three years ago. Hosted by Thom K3HRN. I was one of the moderators. We took the plunge because we thought that perhaps if people could see what an Elecraft forum could look like, with sub boards for different products (to address the concerns of K2 people that the K3 dominated the discussion etc.) they might be converted to the idea. But they weren't. There was a bit of activity in the early days but it eventually died and Thom pulled it from his server a few months ago. There was also a K3 wiki. That died too.

I think the idea is and will always be a non-runner as there is too much resistance among users, as you have seen from other replies. However you can participate in the reflector in a forum-like way using Nabble (there is a link to it on the same Elecraft page that links to the reflector.) That is how most of us who would have preferred a forum now use it.

Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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AB3LS

Re: Forums?

Oh hey, thanks for mentioning the Nabble page!

This is pretty much what I was looking for!

73
Geoffrey Wolf
AB3LS

On Mar 27, 2011, at 4:35 AM, Julian, G4ILO wrote:

>
> Geoffrey Wolf AB3LS wrote:
>>
>>
>> I noticed that there isn't an Elecraft enthusiast forum. There seems to be
>> some
>> Elecraft oriented discussion on the QRZ forums. I was wondering if anyone
>> had
>> set up their own Elecraft discussion forums.
>>
>> I also wanted to add that I have some relatively free server resources and
>> I
>> would be happy to start up a non-official Elecraft discussion forum if
>> interest
>> is shown.
>>
>> So, if some interest is shown, I would love to host a forum for everyone.
>>
>>
>
> Hi Geoffrey. It was tried two or three years ago. Hosted by Thom K3HRN. I
> was one of the moderators. We took the plunge because we thought that
> perhaps if people could see what an Elecraft forum could look like, with sub
> boards for different products (to address the concerns of K2 people that the
> K3 dominated the discussion etc.) they might be converted to the idea. But
> they weren't. There was a bit of activity in the early days but it
> eventually died and Thom pulled it from his server a few months ago. There
> was also a K3 wiki. That died too.
>
> I think the idea is and will always be a non-runner as there is too much
> resistance among users, as you have seen from other replies. However you can
> participate in the reflector in a forum-like way using Nabble (there is a
> link to it on the same Elecraft page that links to the reflector.) That is
> how most of us who would have preferred a forum now use it.
>
> -----
> Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222.
> * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
> * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
> * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html
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DavidN

Forums?

Thanks for pointing to the Nabble page, that's the way I prefer to view
posts too....

David G4TUP.
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Re: Forums?

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At 3/27/2011 04:22 AM, Edward R. Cole wrote:
>Geoffrey,
>
>I am in the process of setting up my K3 with two LP-Pan feeding a
>M-Audio Delta-44 dual-channel soundcard. The reason for the LP-Pan
>is to provide I-Q signals to a computer so that custom SDR sw may be
>used (or developed). The K3 has an internal MCU with Elecraft's
>proprietary sw, but that is not open for sw developers to
>access. Therefore, the standard K3 falls short of its promise as a
>SDR.

I don't see anywhere in the definition of SDR that the software has
to open source. If you wish to develop your own SDR software, the
LP-PAN is a perfect add on to allow you access to the IQ outputs for
developing your own software or modifying existing open source software.

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Re: Forums?

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Hi Robert,

I think you'll be a lot happier with the K3. It's nice to be in the Elecraft family!

I really really really really dislike web-based forums. I find them to be awkward to
navigate, and the threading incomprehensible. I prefer NNTP based lists like this
one. I have a couple of folders that I filter/move posts that particularly interest
me into.

This list is archived on the web at http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ if you need
to search for anything.

73, Mike NF4L

On 3/27/2011 12:01 AM, ROBERT WOLF MD wrote: