Just did the upgrade. Outstanding..... P3 is a joy.
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K3 firmware rev. 4.25 and P3 rev. 1.00 are now production releases.
Thanks for all your feedback and suggestions during beta testing of the new "fixed-tune" mode for the P3. For instructions on how to load K3 and P3 production firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm and http://www.elecraft.com/software/P3/elecraft_p3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Is P3 1.00 ident with 0.50 ????????
73 Klaus OE6KYG KX1 244 K2 1331 K3 115 K3 firmware rev. 4.25 and P3 rev. 1.00 are now production releases. Thanks for all your feedback and suggestions during beta testing of the new "fixed-tune" mode for the P3. For instructions on how to load K3 and P3 production firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm and http://www.elecraft.com/software/P3/elecraft_p3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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No, Klaus, from the revision notes there are bug fixes and the S-meter
has been corrected on 2 metres. In a recent message, Koppendorfer Klaus <[hidden email]> writes > >Is P3 1.00 ident with 0.50 ???????? > -- + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | David M Pratt, Kippax, Leeds. | | Website: http://www.g4dmp.co.uk | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Loaded P3 rev 1.00 with no problems - the missing centerline problem mentioned earlier did not occur with my load of the software.
Question I have is what changes were in the K3 production vs beta as the numbers are the same as the beta versions. Should I overwrite the MCU only, all, or none? W0EB > K3 firmware rev. 4.25 and P3 rev. 1.00 are now production releases. > Thanks for all your feedback and suggestions during beta testing of > the new "fixed-tune" mode for the P3. > > For instructions on how to load K3 and P3 production firmware, see: > > http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm > > and > > http://www.elecraft.com/software/P3/elecraft_p3_software.htm > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
No changes, the Beta code was promoted to production level.
73, Lyle KK7P > Question I have is what changes were in the K3 production vs beta as the numbers are the same as the beta versions. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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P3 rev 1.00 is virtually idential to 0.50, functionally, but has some
bug fixes. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jan 20, 2011, at 12:51 AM, Koppendorfer Klaus wrote: > Is P3 1.00 ident with 0.50 ???????? > > 73 > Klaus > OE6KYG ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
On 1/20/2011 9:03 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> P3 rev 1.00 is virtually idential to 0.50, functionally, but has some > bug fixes. I gave 0.50 a good workout during a contest last weekend. The new functionality is exactly what I was looking for. You guys hit it out of the park with this one. Many thanks! 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Yes, good job. One tweak I'd like to see is the center frequency stay to even 1 or 5 KHz values in the fixed tune mode and the left/right edge of the display lock to the band edge when tuning within <span> of the band edge. Those aren't critical but they make reading frequency, etc. a lot easier. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 1/20/2011 8:55 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > On 1/20/2011 9:03 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> P3 rev 1.00 is virtually idential to 0.50, functionally, but has some >> bug fixes. > > I gave 0.50 a good workout during a contest last weekend. The new > functionality is exactly what I was looking for. You guys hit it out of > the park with this one. Many thanks! > > 73, Jim K9YC > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.42 (with DSP rev. 2.73) is now
available. This release allows the offsets for the 2-meter ref-lock option (K144RFLK) to be automatically calibrated based on the REF CAL menu parameter. Since REF CAL can track an external 10-MHz reference (via a K3EXREF module), 2-meter users can now obtain exceptional frequency stability. See detailed release notes below. Please send any questions to [hidden email]. For instructions on how to load beta firmware, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * MCU 4.42 / DSP 2.73, 8-24-2011 * 2-METER FREQUENCY LOCKING TO REF CAL & EXT. REF: The K144XV RFLK option locks the K3's 2-meter module to the rig's master reference. Previously, users of this option had to enter offsets in the CONFIG:XVn OFS menu entry based on how far off the master reference was from 49380.000 kHz. These offsets can now be calculated automatically based on the REF CAL menu entry. If a K3EXREF module is also installed, then REF CAL itself is automatically calibrated based on an external 10-MHz reference (see K3EXREF on 2 m, below). To enable this, locate XVn OFS in the menu, then tap ‘0’ until you see “REFLOCK”. This lets the K3 firmware know that the RFLK module is installed. (If the RFLK option is not installed, then the K144XV’s oscillators are not locked to the K3’s master reference. The offsets should then be set according to the label on the transverter module.) To see the automatically calculated offset value in the XVn OFS menu entry, the K3 should be switched to the 2-meter band. Otherwise, the K144XV offset parameter may be initially displayed as "-0.00". K3EXREF on 2 m: If a K3EXREF module is installed, REF CAL itself will be automatically calibrated based on an external 10-MHz reference. In this case, selecting “REFLOCK” for XVn OFS will allow the K144XV frequency to track this external reference. 2-meter frequency accuracy will be about a factor of around two worse than on HF, due to the higher frequency of the 2-meter local oscillators. * K3EXREF REF CAL VALUE SAVE: In REF CAL, tapping '1' will now save the K3EXREF-derived reference value as the manually entered value. This is useful in the event that the K3 is ever disconnected from the 10-MHz reference, as it will revert to the manually entered value. Note: To use this feature, a K3EXREF module must be installed, a 10-MHz external reference connected, and an asterisk (*) be present in the menu entry name (“REF*CAL”). You can then tap '1' to save the value. * NO ERROR TONE ON KPA500 OPERATE/STANDBY SWITCHING, etc.: Previously, the K3 would emit an error tone on any KPA500 switch event. Now such tones are only emitted if the CONFIG:SW TONE menu entry is set to ON, or on a hard fault. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.58 (with DSP rev. 2.80) is now
available. This release includes improved built-in CW text decode. Please send any questions to [hidden email]. For beta firmware download instructions, see: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm 73, Wayne N6KR * * * K3 MCU REV. 4.58 / DSP REV. 2.80, 11-7-2012 * KEYER PADDLE ENABLED IN FSK-D/PSK-D MODES ONLY IF TEXT DECODE IS ON: Those using FSK-D/PSK-D via with a computer requested that the paddles be disabled when the K3's internal text decode is OFF so that hitting the paddles accidentally doesn't interfere with PC-based transmission. * CW DECODE IMPROVED: The CW decode algorithm now includes its own AGC system, independent of regular AGC threshold/slope/decay settings. Decode of element spaces vs. word spaces adjust slightly to improve rate of copy on average code samples. CW DECODE TIPS: - Use the TEXT DEC switch and VFO A to set CW decode threshold. We recommend using THR 2 or 3 for most signals, and THR 1 for very weak signals. These fixed settings usually work better than AUTO. - Also use TEXT DEC and VFO B to turn on CW decode and select the speed range. The CW 5-40 WPM setting is best for all but the fastest CW. - Use a narrow WIDTH setting (50-250 Hz when possible) - If the band is noisy, interfering with copy, try turning on the noise blanker (NB) first to reduce the level of impulse noise. - When there is no CW signal above the required threshold, you'll see random characters decoded. - Copy will vary with sending accuracy, fading, signal level, interference, and noise. But the addition of separate CW decode AGC definitely helps. ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Any other improvements or just CW decode? 73, Guy
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:59 AM, wayne burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.58 (with DSP rev. 2.80) is now > available. This release includes improved built-in CW text decode. > > Please send any questions to [hidden email]. For beta firmware > download instructions, see: > > http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR > > * * * > > K3 MCU REV. 4.58 / DSP REV. 2.80, 11-7-2012 > > * KEYER PADDLE ENABLED IN FSK-D/PSK-D MODES ONLY IF TEXT DECODE IS ON: > Those using FSK-D/PSK-D via with a computer requested that the paddles > be disabled when the K3's internal text decode is OFF so that hitting > the paddles accidentally doesn't interfere with PC-based transmission. > > * CW DECODE IMPROVED: The CW decode algorithm now includes its own AGC > system, independent of regular AGC threshold/slope/decay settings. > Decode of element spaces vs. word spaces adjust slightly to improve > rate of copy on average code samples. > > CW DECODE TIPS: > > - Use the TEXT DEC switch and VFO A to set CW decode threshold. We > recommend using THR 2 or 3 for most signals, and THR 1 for very weak > signals. These fixed settings usually work better than AUTO. > > - Also use TEXT DEC and VFO B to turn on CW decode and select the > speed range. The CW 5-40 WPM setting is best for all but the fastest CW. > > - Use a narrow WIDTH setting (50-250 Hz when possible) > > - If the band is noisy, interfering with copy, try turning on the > noise blanker (NB) first to reduce the level of impulse noise. > > - When there is no CW signal above the required threshold, you'll see > random characters decoded. > > - Copy will vary with sending accuracy, fading, signal level, > interference, and noise. But the addition of separate CW decode AGC > definitely helps. > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Didn't you read the release notes (even quoted in Wayne's email below)? The other change is that paddle input is disabled in FSK-D/PSK-D if text decode is not enabled. 73, ~iain / N6ML On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]> wrote: > Any other improvements or just CW decode? 73, Guy > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:59 AM, wayne burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.58 (with DSP rev. 2.80) is now >> available. This release includes improved built-in CW text decode. >> >> Please send any questions to [hidden email]. For beta firmware >> download instructions, see: >> >> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm >> >> 73, >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> * * * >> >> K3 MCU REV. 4.58 / DSP REV. 2.80, 11-7-2012 >> >> * KEYER PADDLE ENABLED IN FSK-D/PSK-D MODES ONLY IF TEXT DECODE IS ON: >> Those using FSK-D/PSK-D via with a computer requested that the paddles >> be disabled when the K3's internal text decode is OFF so that hitting >> the paddles accidentally doesn't interfere with PC-based transmission. >> >> * CW DECODE IMPROVED: The CW decode algorithm now includes its own AGC >> system, independent of regular AGC threshold/slope/decay settings. >> Decode of element spaces vs. word spaces adjust slightly to improve >> rate of copy on average code samples. >> >> CW DECODE TIPS: >> >> - Use the TEXT DEC switch and VFO A to set CW decode threshold. We >> recommend using THR 2 or 3 for most signals, and THR 1 for very weak >> signals. These fixed settings usually work better than AUTO. >> >> - Also use TEXT DEC and VFO B to turn on CW decode and select the >> speed range. The CW 5-40 WPM setting is best for all but the fastest CW. >> >> - Use a narrow WIDTH setting (50-250 Hz when possible) >> >> - If the band is noisy, interfering with copy, try turning on the >> noise blanker (NB) first to reduce the level of impulse noise. >> >> - When there is no CW signal above the required threshold, you'll see >> random characters decoded. >> >> - Copy will vary with sending accuracy, fading, signal level, >> interference, and noise. But the addition of separate CW decode AGC >> definitely helps. >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
I read the release notes. And I asked him if there were any other fixes
included. There are often additional issues repaired which do not involve documentation and/or operational changes and don't go into the notes. I read the entirety of his email and I stand by my question. 73, Guy. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 1:14 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML <[hidden email]>wrote: > Guy, > > Didn't you read the release notes (even quoted in Wayne's email > below)? The other change is that paddle input is disabled in > FSK-D/PSK-D if text decode is not enabled. > > 73, > > ~iain / N6ML > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:29 AM, Guy Olinger K2AV <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > Any other improvements or just CW decode? 73, Guy > > > > On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:59 AM, wayne burdick <[hidden email]> > wrote: > > > >> K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.58 (with DSP rev. 2.80) is now > >> available. This release includes improved built-in CW text decode. > >> > >> Please send any questions to [hidden email]. For beta firmware > >> download instructions, see: > >> > >> http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm > >> > >> 73, > >> Wayne > >> N6KR > >> > >> * * * > >> > >> K3 MCU REV. 4.58 / DSP REV. 2.80, 11-7-2012 > >> > >> * KEYER PADDLE ENABLED IN FSK-D/PSK-D MODES ONLY IF TEXT DECODE IS ON: > >> Those using FSK-D/PSK-D via with a computer requested that the paddles > >> be disabled when the K3's internal text decode is OFF so that hitting > >> the paddles accidentally doesn't interfere with PC-based transmission. > >> > >> * CW DECODE IMPROVED: The CW decode algorithm now includes its own AGC > >> system, independent of regular AGC threshold/slope/decay settings. > >> Decode of element spaces vs. word spaces adjust slightly to improve > >> rate of copy on average code samples. > >> > >> CW DECODE TIPS: > >> > >> - Use the TEXT DEC switch and VFO A to set CW decode threshold. We > >> recommend using THR 2 or 3 for most signals, and THR 1 for very weak > >> signals. These fixed settings usually work better than AUTO. > >> > >> - Also use TEXT DEC and VFO B to turn on CW decode and select the > >> speed range. The CW 5-40 WPM setting is best for all but the fastest CW. > >> > >> - Use a narrow WIDTH setting (50-250 Hz when possible) > >> > >> - If the band is noisy, interfering with copy, try turning on the > >> noise blanker (NB) first to reduce the level of impulse noise. > >> > >> - When there is no CW signal above the required threshold, you'll see > >> random characters decoded. > >> > >> - Copy will vary with sending accuracy, fading, signal level, > >> interference, and noise. But the addition of separate CW decode AGC > >> definitely helps. > >> > >> > >> > >> ______________________________________________________________ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
That's odd. I don't remember any beta release that didn't fully describe the changes that had been made, yet you say that it "often" happens. Can you provide a few examples that never were described in the notes? I'm curious what might have been changed that I don't know about. I'm also curious what kind of issue would get repaired that wouldn't be an operational issue in one way or another. Maybe you could give an example or two of that as well. Dave AB7E On 11/14/2012 1:17 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > I read the release notes. And I asked him if there were any other fixes > included. There are often additional issues repaired which do not involve > documentation and/or operational changes and don't go into the notes. I > read the entirety of his email and I stand by my question. > > 73, Guy ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
Only the Shadow Knows (Wayne). You get the answer by asking him :>)
You don't need additional documentation for a minor touch up of firmware to make the audio a little bit clearer. It's just there. There's an even chance that some will not hear it, and mentioning it cause a furor among those who don't hear it. It's not some great conspiracy. He calls them very minor. That's his call. So is how much to document also his call. But sometimes he does more good than he knows. Like the huge up-tick in clarity with 4.51. So sometimes I get on here and ask. "Often" is from a historical perspective and is my personal choice of a descriptor. You might look at the same list and disagree. That's fine. 73, Guy. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:16 PM, David Gilbert <[hidden email]>wrote: > > That's odd. I don't remember any beta release that didn't fully > describe the changes that had been made, yet you say that it "often" > happens. Can you provide a few examples that never were described in > the notes? I'm curious what might have been changed that I don't know > about. > > I'm also curious what kind of issue would get repaired that wouldn't be > an operational issue in one way or another. Maybe you could give an > example or two of that as well. > > Dave AB7E > > > On 11/14/2012 1:17 PM, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > > I read the release notes. And I asked him if there were any other fixes > > included. There are often additional issues repaired which do not > involve > > documentation and/or operational changes and don't go into the notes. I > > read the entirety of his email and I stand by my question. > > > > 73, Guy > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Does the latest beta firmware still allow use of the FM filter for transmitting AM? By the way, the CW decode works great.
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Does the latest beta version still include the ability to use the FM filter to transmit on AM? By the way, the new CW decoder works great.
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73, Wayne N6KR On Nov 15, 2012, at 5:16 PM, WB8ENE wrote: > Does the latest beta version still include the ability to use the FM > filter > to transmit on AM? By the way, the new CW decoder works great. > > 73, > Art WB8ENE > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-Beta-Firmware-Rev-3-57-Synchronous-AM-Detection-AM-S-misc-improvements-tp3983997p7565738.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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