K3 Beta Firmware Rev. 3.57: Synchronous AM Detection (AM-S); misc. improvements

[ab2tc]

Hi,

For the first time ever I am not able to download the zip file. As soon as I click "save target as", Explorer complains about not being able to download the file and something about "server returned extended information". Several attempts yielded the same results. Anybody else have this problem?

AB2TC - Knut

juergen piezo wrote

Hi Wayne

The APF is fantastic. This is the best enhancement to the K3's receiver ever.

The APF performance puts the K3 ahead of every other radio  on CW receive. There is just no comparison. Anyone not using a K3 with the APF will be at a huge disadvantage in a contest.

The APF is  scary  with its potential. This is the first time that a DSP ënhancement has impressed me.

73
John

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[N5GE]

On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 13:05:55 -0700, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>  wrote:

Good Lord!!

I'm setting here with a very weak carrier tuned in on 10m that is barely
detectable in the noise with my 250 CW filter set to 50hz.

When I turn the APF on it jumps out of the noise and actually sounds like an s-5
or s-6 signal!!!

What a wonderful addition for CW operators.

GOOD WORK!

Thanks,

Tom
Radio Amateur N5GE

>K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.17 (with DSP rev. 2.65) is now  
>available. This release includes our new APF (audio peaking filter)  
>for CW mode, which has been helping K3 field testers work "extreme"  
>weak DX for the past several days.
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[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2010 03 Nov 15:06 -0500, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.17 (with DSP rev. 2.65) is now  
> available. This release includes our new APF (audio peaking filter)  
> for CW mode, which has been helping K3 field testers work "extreme"  
> weak DX for the past several days.

Hi Wayne, never having used this sort of function before, I am pleased
with how well it works just the few minutes of playing with it.  Thanks
much.

> * NARROW AF FILTER IMPROVEMENT: Adjusting SHIFT and
> WIDTH when using very narrow DSP filters no longer causes
> ‘pop’ artifacts.

Perhaps I had not noticed them before, but in tweaking on CW using the
WIDTH control, I can hear a slight audio pop on occasion which sounds a
bit like a scratchy pot and is certainly not the slight drop in audio as
the filters are switched in and out.  I notice it only when going from
150 to 100 Hz bandwidth but not back again.  It does not do it
all the time, however. I can repeat it if I widen to about 450 Hz and
then narrow it back down to 100 Hz and the slight "tick" is there each
time the switch is made from 150 to 100 Hz.

My K3 is a single receiver with 2.7, 2.1 kHz, and 500 and 200 Hz filters
installed.

BTW, are there filter plots for the Elecraft 5 pole filter available?

73, de Nate >>

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[k6dgw]

WOW!!  I wondered who the pile up was for around 14017 or so.  Tuning
down a couple, I heard an S[minus]1 signal I couldn't make out, sounded
like 9A something, sometimes GT[?].  Figuring there wouldn't be a huge
pileup on a 9A, I engaged APF.  Right out of the noise, maybe S3 and
easily copyable was 9U0A.  As usual, K6RIM beat me to him.  I'm still
digesting all the NR/NB/AGC stuff "The Smiths" sent me, I'm thinking
this can only get better.

Nice going guys!

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011
- www.cqp.org

On 11/3/2010 1:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.17 (with DSP rev. 2.65) is now
> available. This release includes our new APF (audio peaking filter)
> for CW mode, which has been helping K3 field testers work "extreme"
> weak DX for the past several days.

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[Joe Subich, W4TV-4]

>> To use APF, make sure CONFIG:DUAL PB is set to APF. (This is the
>> default. “NOR” restores the original DUAL PB function.)

Given the value of both APF and Dual PB filters, the "menu dance"
to switch between the two is a very big drag.  Please provide a
way to select either function (I'd suggest "Hold" and "Long Hold"
as used with Link/Diversity) without resorting to the CONFIG
menu.

73,

    ... Joe, W4TV

On 11/3/2010 4:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.17 (with DSP rev. 2.65) is now
> available. This release includes our new APF (audio peaking filter)
> for CW mode, which has been helping K3 field testers work "extreme"
> weak DX for the past several days.
>
> For voice modes, there's a "Fast Monitor" option (TX voice monitor
> without the processing delay). Also included is a much-improved TX
> Noise Gate.
>
> See detailed release notes below.
>
> Please send any questions to [hidden email]. For instructions
> on how to load beta firmware, see:
>
>        http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> * * *
>
> MCU 4.17 / DSP 2.65 / FPF 1.14, 11-2-2010
>
> NOTE: Be sure to install all firmware files for this release,
> including FPF 1.14. Otherwise your menu text will be incorrect.
>
> * APF (AUDIO PEAKING FILTER) ADDED: APF provides enhanced
> copy of weak signals in CW mode, and is especially useful when
> signals are at the noise level. The K3’s APF is patterned after
> the most successful analog APF implementations, and is equally
> effective in user tests. To use APF, make sure CONFIG:DUAL PB
> is set to APF. (This is the default. “NOR” restores the original DUAL PB
> function.) Then hold DUAL PB to turn APF on/off. A special DSP
> graphic display is used to show that APF is in effect. At the time
> APF is activated, the regular I.F. SHIFT setting, if any, is “frozen,”
> and SHIFT then controls the center pitch of the APF filter in 10-Hz
> steps. APF is independent for the main and sub receivers, as well
> as for presets I and II. Switching between these two presets is a
> convenient way of turning APF on/off quickly.
>
> * ADDED VOICE TX “FAST MONITOR”: Normally the voice
> monitor includes a ~20-ms delay, which is necessary to hear how your
> on-air signal will sound (with compression, etc.). If you prefer to not
> hear any delay in the voice monitor, set CONFIG:TX MON to FAST.
> Note: You’ll still hear the delayed and processed monitor if you
> adjust the MIC, CMP, TX EQ or TX GATE settings while transmitting.
>
> * TX NOISE GATE IMPROVEMENT: The Noise Gate/Downward
> Expander for voice modes has smoother response and much
> improved performance near the threshold.
>
> * NARROW AF FILTER IMPROVEMENT: Adjusting SHIFT and
> WIDTH when using very narrow DSP filters no longer causes
> ‘pop’ artifacts.
>
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[wb6rse1]

Elecraft continues to delight.

FINE tuning ON can be very helpful on really really weak signals with the APF.

73 - Steve WB6RSE
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[N5GE]

On Wed, 03 Nov 2010 21:20:44 -0400, "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[hidden email]> wrote:

I agree with you Joe.  Long Hold would be my preference.

Tom
Radio Amateur N5GE

>
>>> To use APF, make sure CONFIG:DUAL PB is set to APF. (This is the
>>> default. “NOR” restores the original DUAL PB function.)
>
>Given the value of both APF and Dual PB filters, the "menu dance"
>to switch between the two is a very big drag.  Please provide a
>way to select either function (I'd suggest "Hold" and "Long Hold"
>as used with Link/Diversity) without resorting to the CONFIG
>menu.
>
>73,
>
>    ... Joe, W4TV
>
>On 11/3/2010 4:05 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>> K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.17 (with DSP rev. 2.65) is now
>> available. This release includes our new APF (audio peaking filter)
>> for CW mode, which has been helping K3 field testers work "extreme"
>> weak DX for the past several days.
>>
>> For voice modes, there's a "Fast Monitor" option (TX voice monitor
>> without the processing delay). Also included is a much-improved TX
>> Noise Gate.
>>
>> See detailed release notes below.
>>
>> Please send any questions to [hidden email]. For instructions
>> on how to load beta firmware, see:
>>
>>        http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm
>>
>> 73,
>> Wayne
>> N6KR
>>
>> * * *
>>
>> MCU 4.17 / DSP 2.65 / FPF 1.14, 11-2-2010
>>
>> NOTE: Be sure to install all firmware files for this release,
>> including FPF 1.14. Otherwise your menu text will be incorrect.
>>
>> * APF (AUDIO PEAKING FILTER) ADDED: APF provides enhanced
>> copy of weak signals in CW mode, and is especially useful when
>> signals are at the noise level. The K3’s APF is patterned after
>> the most successful analog APF implementations, and is equally
>> effective in user tests. To use APF, make sure CONFIG:DUAL PB
>> is set to APF. (This is the default. “NOR” restores the original DUAL PB
>> function.) Then hold DUAL PB to turn APF on/off. A special DSP
>> graphic display is used to show that APF is in effect. At the time
>> APF is activated, the regular I.F. SHIFT setting, if any, is “frozen,”
>> and SHIFT then controls the center pitch of the APF filter in 10-Hz
>> steps. APF is independent for the main and sub receivers, as well
>> as for presets I and II. Switching between these two presets is a
>> convenient way of turning APF on/off quickly.
>>
>> * ADDED VOICE TX “FAST MONITOR”: Normally the voice
>> monitor includes a ~20-ms delay, which is necessary to hear how your
>> on-air signal will sound (with compression, etc.). If you prefer to not
>> hear any delay in the voice monitor, set CONFIG:TX MON to FAST.
>> Note: You’ll still hear the delayed and processed monitor if you
>> adjust the MIC, CMP, TX EQ or TX GATE settings while transmitting.
>>
>> * TX NOISE GATE IMPROVEMENT: The Noise Gate/Downward
>> Expander for voice modes has smoother response and much
>> improved performance near the threshold.
>>
>> * NARROW AF FILTER IMPROVEMENT: Adjusting SHIFT and
>> WIDTH when using very narrow DSP filters no longer causes
>> ‘pop’ artifacts.
>>
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[wayne burdick]

Yes, you can fine-tune (1 Hz) using either the VFO or RIT.

In addition, it looks like the next release may provide 5-Hz  
increments for tuning the APF center frequency (presently 10). We're  
testing that now.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:30 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Elecraft continues to delight.
>
> FINE tuning ON can be very helpful on really really weak signals  
> with the APF.



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[wb6rse1]

Ron - I'm referring to tuning the RX to hit the peak of the APF, not the APF. The ability to do it .001 with FINE tuning (or .05 in the next release TBD) allowed me to tune to a peak a very weak 9UØA on 80m that was much more difficult and less effective with the tuning at .01. Especially when the target is on for very short transmissions. In-other-words, real world experience.

73 - Steve WB6RSE


On Nov 3, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

I'm not clear on the value of changing the APF center frequency
independently of the actual signal center frequency. If the other station
drifts off-frequency, I just tune him back in with the RIT or, since I use
SPLIT as my basic operating mode, with the VFO knob.

In what circumstances if tuning the APF frequency useful?

Ron

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF FINE Tuning

Yes, you can fine-tune (1 Hz) using either the VFO or RIT.

In addition, it looks like the next release may provide 5-Hz  
increments for tuning the APF center frequency (presently 10). We're  
testing that now.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:30 PM, [hidden email] wrote:

> Elecraft continues to delight.
>
> FINE tuning ON can be very helpful on really really weak signals  
> with the APF.


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[wb6rse1]

I spoke too quickly. Wayne is referring to changing the AFP freq. I was referring to tuning the RX. Tuning one or both is aimed at getting the desired signal to the peak. .001 is very useful for really weak sigs. Having the shift control move the APF 5 hz vs 10 hz would also help in combination.

73 - Steve WB6RSE

On Nov 3, 2010, at 7:59 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

I'm not clear on the value of changing the APF center frequency
independently of the actual signal center frequency. If the other station
drifts off-frequency, I just tune him back in with the RIT or, since I use
SPLIT as my basic operating mode, with the VFO knob.

In what circumstances if tuning the APF frequency useful?

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[Vic K2VCO]

Neither of your solutions would work with QRQ CW turned on.

On 11/3/2010 7:59 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:

> I'm not clear on the value of changing the APF center frequency
> independently of the actual signal center frequency. If the other station
> drifts off-frequency, I just tune him back in with the RIT or, since I use
> SPLIT as my basic operating mode, with the VFO knob.
>
> In what circumstances if tuning the APF frequency useful?
>
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 7:01 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF FINE Tuning
>
> Yes, you can fine-tune (1 Hz) using either the VFO or RIT.
>
> In addition, it looks like the next release may provide 5-Hz
> increments for tuning the APF center frequency (presently 10). We're
> testing that now.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:30 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
>> Elecraft continues to delight.
>>
>> FINE tuning ON can be very helpful on really really weak signals
>> with the APF.
>
>
>
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[Guy, K2AV]

This occurs in running in a contest, where you have positioned the
hard skirts of roofing and regular DSP, to keep out the strong
stations just above and just below.  A weak station down in the noise
calls you slightly up or down, but not out of your running passband.
If you tune the RX frequency up or down to bring him into a fixed
center passband APF, then you let one of the strong stations up or
down under the roofing filter and it will start pumping AGC and trash
the weak signal.  Tuning on the APF and tuning its obvious audio
center up or down, without moving the RX frequency, to the remembered
frequency of the weak signal, peaks him right up without letting the
up and down QRM under the roofing filter.  Also it is easier to
remember the audio tone of the weak signal if it fades and move the
APF peak, than tune the RX and hold the audio peak constant.  Unless
you know in your head that you have only tuned 70 Hz of the 110 off
frequency, and have a calibrated feel to the knob, you can't move the
RX and APF peak to where the station was when it sank under the noise.

73, Guy.

On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'm not clear on the value of changing the APF center frequency
> independently of the actual signal center frequency. If the other station
> drifts off-frequency, I just tune him back in with the RIT or, since I use
> SPLIT as my basic operating mode, with the VFO knob.
>
> In what circumstances if tuning the APF frequency useful?
>
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 7:01 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 APF FINE Tuning
>
> Yes, you can fine-tune (1 Hz) using either the VFO or RIT.
>
> In addition, it looks like the next release may provide 5-Hz
> increments for tuning the APF center frequency (presently 10). We're
> testing that now.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> On Nov 3, 2010, at 6:30 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
>
>> Elecraft continues to delight.
>>
>> FINE tuning ON can be very helpful on really really weak signals
>> with the APF.
>
>
>
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[KK7P]

K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.18 (with DSP rev. 2.67) is now
available. This release includes our new APF (audio peaking filter)
for CW mode, which has been helping K3 field testers work "extreme"
weak DX for the past several days.

For voice modes, there's a "Fast Monitor" option (TX voice monitor
without the processing delay). Also included is a much-improved TX
Noise Gate.

This release fixes a problem with low initial output in SSB Tx.

See detailed release notes below.

Please send any questions [hidden email]. For instructions
on how to load beta firmware, see:

       http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_software.htm

73,
Lyle
KK7P

* * *

MCU 4.18 / DSP 2.67 / FPF 1.14, 11-5-2010

NOTE: Be sure to install all firmware files for this release,
including FPF 1.14. Otherwise your menu text will be incorrect.

* APF (AUDIO PEAKING FILTER) ADDED: APF provides enhanced
copy of weak signals in CW mode, and is especially useful when
signals are at the noise level. The K3’s APF is patterned after
the most successful analog APF implementations, and is equally
effective in user tests. To use APF, make sure CONFIG:DUAL PB
is set to APF. (This is the default. “NOR” restores the original DUAL PB
function.) Then hold DUAL PB to turn APF on/off. A special DSP
graphic display is used to show that APF is in effect. At the time
APF is activated, the regular I.F. SHIFT setting, if any, is “frozen,”
and SHIFT then controls the center pitch of the APF filter in 10-Hz
steps. APF is independent for the main and sub receivers, as well
as for presets I and II. Switching between these two presets is a
convenient way of turning APF on/off quickly.

* ADDED VOICE TX “FAST MONITOR”: Normally the voice
monitor includes a ~20-ms delay, which is necessary to hear how your
on-air signal will sound (with compression, etc.). If you prefer to not
hear any delay in the voice monitor, set CONFIG:TX MON to FAST.
Note: You’ll still hear the delayed and processed monitor if you
adjust the MIC, CMP, TX EQ or TX GATE settings while transmitting.

* TX NOISE GATE IMPROVEMENT: The Noise Gate/Downward
Expander for voice modes has smoother response and much
improved performance near the threshold.

* NARROW AF FILTER IMPROVEMENT: Adjusting SHIFT when using very
narrow DSP filters no longer causes ‘pop’ artifacts.

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[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2010 05 Nov 18:35 -0500, Lyle Johnson wrote:

> K3 beta-test firmware revision 4.18 (with DSP rev. 2.67) is now
> available. This release includes our new APF (audio peaking filter)
> for CW mode, which has been helping K3 field testers work "extreme"
> weak DX for the past several days.
>
> For voice modes, there's a "Fast Monitor" option (TX voice monitor
> without the processing delay). Also included is a much-improved TX
> Noise Gate.
>
> This release fixes a problem with low initial output in SSB Tx.

Looks good here, Lyle.

Thanks much!

73, de Nate >>

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[K2QI]

Hi Lyle,

Nice work.  Low SSB output solved on my end with this latest beta.

73 de James K2QI

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> This release fixes a problem with low initial output in SSB Tx.
>
>
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On 11/5/10 5:44 PM, James Sarte wrote:
> Hi Lyle,
> Nice work.  Low SSB output solved on my end with this latest beta.
:-)

Thanks, James.

Lyle
> 73 de James K2QI
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>
>     This release fixes a problem with low initial output in SSB Tx.
>

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[Tim Tucker]

Well, that was fast.  THANK YOU!!

BTW, everyone else has commented on the APF, but as a mainly SSB guy, I love
the new Fast monitor and improvements to the noise gate.  Well done!


On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 11/5/10 5:44 PM, James Sarte wrote:
> > Hi Lyle,
> > Nice work.  Low SSB output solved on my end with this latest beta.
> :-)
>
> Thanks, James.
>
> Lyle
> > 73 de James K2QI
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]
> > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
> >
> >     This release fixes a problem with low initial output in SSB Tx.
> >
>
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[Guy, K2AV]

Fixed.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Tim Tucker <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Well, that was fast.  THANK YOU!!
>
> BTW, everyone else has commented on the APF, but as a mainly SSB guy, I love
> the new Fast monitor and improvements to the noise gate.  Well done!
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/5/10 5:44 PM, James Sarte wrote:
>> > Hi Lyle,
>> > Nice work.  Low SSB output solved on my end with this latest beta.
>> :-)
>>
>> Thanks, James.
>>
>> Lyle
>> > 73 de James K2QI
>> >
>> > On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Lyle Johnson <[hidden email]
>> > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     This release fixes a problem with low initial output in SSB Tx.
>> >
>>
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