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Frank R. Oppedijk-3

K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

Hi group,

Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it
no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle
while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using
firmware version 04.39.

Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?

73,

Frank PA4N

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Frank R. Oppedijk-3

Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

Hi Greg,

Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come
on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no
RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output
when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW.

At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:

>Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
>sending the CW?
>
>73
>Greg
>AB7R
>
>
>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi group,
> >
> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it
> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle
> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using
> > firmware version 04.39.
> >
> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?

Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2

Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be
transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it
works...

~iain / N6ML

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi Greg,
>
> Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come
> on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no
> RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output
> when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW.
>
>
> At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:
>>Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
>>sending the CW?
>>
>>73
>>Greg
>>AB7R
>>
>>
>>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > Hi group,
>> >
>> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it
>> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
>> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle
>> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using
>> > firmware version 04.39.
>> >
>> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
>
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Frank R. Oppedijk-3

Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

Hi,

I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as
can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something else...

At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote:

>Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be
>transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it
>works...
>
> ~iain / N6ML
>
>
>On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hi Greg,
> >
> > Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come
> > on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no
> > RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output
> > when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW.
> >
> >
> > At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:
> >>Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
> >>sending the CW?
> >>
> >>73
> >>Greg
> >>AB7R
> >>
> >>
> >>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> > Hi group,
> >> >
> >> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it
> >> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> >> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle
> >> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using
> >> > firmware version 04.39.
> >> >
> >> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
> >
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Frank R. Oppedijk-3

Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

Hi Ken,

No, I think not. If I assert PTT and speak, I see plenty output
power. If I switch to CW mode and make CW, I see plenty output power.
So it cannot be that...

At 19:44 31/01/2012, Rose wrote:

>Is the PWR set to "0"?
>
>73!
>
>Ken - K0PP
><mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]
>On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Frank R. Oppedijk
><<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as
>can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something else...
>
>
>
>At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote:
> >Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be
> >transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it
> >works...
> >
> > ~iain / N6ML
> >
> >
> >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk
> <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > Hi Greg,
> > >
> > > Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come
> > > on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no
> > > RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF output
> > > when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make CW.
> > >
> > >
> > > At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:
> > >>Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
> > >>sending the CW?
> > >>
> > >>73
> > >>Greg
> > >>AB7R
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >> > Hi group,
> > >> >
> > >> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it
> > >> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> > >> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle
> > >> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using
> > >> > firmware version 04.39.
> > >> >
> > >> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
> > >
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Gary Hinson

Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

Hi Frank.

I have the same problem: CW in SSB no longer works on K3#2887 running
firmware 4.39. I raised this on the reflector some months back and went
around the loop changing config settings, PTT, QRQ etc. I did manage to fix
it temporarily by restoring the K3 firmware configs, but annoyingly it has
packed up again since then.

I *think* CW-in-SSB it might still work on some bands, not others. At
least, that's what I found last time I checked - I haven't checked lately.

I suspect there might be a cryptic bug in the firmware (the best kind!).

73
Gary ZL2iFB

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Frank R. Oppedijk
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 7:48 a.m.
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> No, I think not. If I assert PTT and speak, I see plenty output power. If

> switch to CW mode and make CW, I see plenty output power.
> So it cannot be that...
>
>
> At 19:44 31/01/2012, Rose wrote:
> >Is the PWR set to "0"?
> >
> >73!
> >
> >Ken - K0PP
> ><mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]
> >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Frank R. Oppedijk
> ><<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as
> >can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something else...
> >
> >
> >
> >At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote:
> > >Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be
> > >transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it
> > >works...
> > >
> > > ~iain / N6ML
> > >
> > >
> > >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk
> > <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > Hi Greg,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come
> > > > on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no
> > > > RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF
> output
> > > > when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make
> CW.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:
> > > >>Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
> > > >>sending the CW?
> > > >>
> > > >>73
> > > >>Greg
> > > >>AB7R
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> > > >> > Hi group,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,

but
> it
> > > >> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> > > >> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
> paddle
> > > >> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
using

> > > >> > firmware version 04.39.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
> > > >
> > > >
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Frank R. Oppedijk-3

Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

Gary and others,

Yes, I momentarily saw it working okay on 6 meters when I did a brief
transmission on that band.

Unfortunately, as I don't have an antenna for 6 meters, the K3
encountered a high SWR there. And now it outputs only about 5 watts
on each band (also in CW mode) when I've dialed an output power less
than 12W. If I select a power level over 12W, so the KPA100 should
kick in, I get no output whatsoever.

So maybe I broke something now. :-(

Or the cryptic bug has manifested itself in the CW mode too.

Any ideas whether I could do a software reset of the radio?

Fingers crossed here now...

Frank PA4N

At 21:36 31/01/2012, you wrote:

>Hi Frank.
>
>I have the same problem: CW in SSB no longer works on K3#2887 running
>firmware 4.39. I raised this on the reflector some months back and went
>around the loop changing config settings, PTT, QRQ etc. I did manage to fix
>it temporarily by restoring the K3 firmware configs, but annoyingly it has
>packed up again since then.
>
>I *think* CW-in-SSB it might still work on some bands, not others. At
>least, that's what I found last time I checked - I haven't checked lately.
>
>I suspect there might be a cryptic bug in the firmware (the best kind!).
>
>73
>Gary ZL2iFB
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-
> > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Frank R. Oppedijk
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 7:48 a.m.
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
> >
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > No, I think not. If I assert PTT and speak, I see plenty output power. If
>I
> > switch to CW mode and make CW, I see plenty output power.
> > So it cannot be that...
> >
> >
> > At 19:44 31/01/2012, Rose wrote:
> > >Is the PWR set to "0"?
> > >
> > >73!
> > >
> > >Ken - K0PP
> > ><mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]
> > >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Frank R. Oppedijk
> > ><<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as
> > >can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something else...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote:
> > > >Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be
> > > >transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it
> > > >works...
> > > >
> > > > ~iain / N6ML
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk
> > > <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Greg,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come
> > > > > on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But no
> > > > > RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF
> > output
> > > > > when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make
> > CW.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:
> > > > >>Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
> > > > >>sending the CW?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>73
> > > > >>Greg
> > > > >>AB7R
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >> > Hi group,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,
>but
> > it
> > > > >> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> > > > >> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
> > paddle
> > > > >> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
>using
> > > > >> > firmware version 04.39.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Bruce Beford-2

Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

In reply to this post by Frank R. Oppedijk-3

CW in SSB mode works fine here.
Firmware versions:
MCU 4.47
FPF 1.15
DSP1 2.73

73,
Bruce, N1RX

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Ken G Kopp

Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

In reply to this post by Gary Hinson

It works OK here w/4.39

73!

Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Ted Bryant

Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

In reply to this post by Frank R. Oppedijk-3

Have you tried plugging a straight key into the KEY jack to see if it sends
cw on ssb that way?

Mine works (v4.39) with a paddle or straight key, vox or ptt, any band.

73, Ted W4NZ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]]On Behalf Of Frank R. Oppedijk
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 4:04 PM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

Gary and others,

Yes, I momentarily saw it working okay on 6 meters when I did a brief
transmission on that band.

Unfortunately, as I don't have an antenna for 6 meters, the K3
encountered a high SWR there. And now it outputs only about 5 watts
on each band (also in CW mode) when I've dialed an output power less
than 12W. If I select a power level over 12W, so the KPA100 should
kick in, I get no output whatsoever.

So maybe I broke something now. :-(

Or the cryptic bug has manifested itself in the CW mode too.

Any ideas whether I could do a software reset of the radio?

Fingers crossed here now...

Frank PA4N

At 21:36 31/01/2012, you wrote:
>Hi Frank.
>
>I have the same problem: CW in SSB no longer works on K3#2887 running
>firmware 4.39. I raised this on the reflector some months back and went
>around the loop changing config settings, PTT, QRQ etc. I did manage to
fix

>it temporarily by restoring the K3 firmware configs, but annoyingly it has
>packed up again since then.
>
>I *think* CW-in-SSB it might still work on some bands, not others. At
>least, that's what I found last time I checked - I haven't checked lately.
>
>I suspect there might be a cryptic bug in the firmware (the best kind!).
>
>73
>Gary ZL2iFB
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-
> > [hidden email]] On Behalf Of Frank R. Oppedijk
> > Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 7:48 a.m.
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
> >
> > Hi Ken,
> >
> > No, I think not. If I assert PTT and speak, I see plenty output power.

>I
> > switch to CW mode and make CW, I see plenty output power.
> > So it cannot be that...
> >
> >
> > At 19:44 31/01/2012, Rose wrote:
> > >Is the PWR set to "0"?
> > >
> > >73!
> > >
> > >Ken - K0PP
> > ><mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]
> > >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:24 PM, Frank R. Oppedijk
> > ><<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I'm not asserting PTT. If I did, I'd indeed be transmitting SSB, as
> > >can be clearly heard on the monitor. So it must be yet something

else...

> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 19:13 31/01/2012, you wrote:
> > > >Even with VOX on, if you assert PTT along with CW keying, you will be
> > > >transmitting in SSB mode, not CW. Try disconnecting PTT and see if it
> > > >works...
> > > >
> > > > ~iain / N6ML
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM, Frank R. Oppedijk
> > > <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Greg,
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I have tried with VOX on. I see the red TX led on the K3 come
> > > > > on, I see the leftmost bar in the RF output lcd bar come on. But

> > > > > RF output on my external SWR meter. That SWR *does* show RF
> > output
> > > > > when I speak into the mike, or when I switch to CW mode and make
> > CW.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 18:35 31/01/2012, Greg wrote:
> > > > >>Frank. Do you have VOX turned on or are you asserting PTT when
> > > > >>sending the CW?
> > > > >>
> > > > >>73
> > > > >>Greg
> > > > >>AB7R
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > > > >> > Hi group,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,
>but
> > it
> > > > >> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> > > > >> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
> > paddle
> > > > >> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
>using
> > > > >> > firmware version 04.39.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
> > > > >
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Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

In reply to this post by Bruce Beford-2

Mine seems to work OK with 4.47.

Fred Cady
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> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:14 PM
> To: [hidden email]
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>
> CW in SSB mode works fine here.
> Firmware versions:
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Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

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I must be missing something. Can someone explain why you would want to send
CW in SSB mode?
I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works fine
here, using firmware 4.36.

Tnx & 73,
Tim - N3XX

On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
wrote:
Hi group,
Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,
but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
using firmware version 04.39.
Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?

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Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

For one thing, it's quite useful on 6m, where DX will often switch
back and forth between CW and SSB on the same frequency).

73,

~iain / N6ML

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:11 PM, N3XX <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I must be missing something. Can someone explain why you would want to send
> CW in SSB mode?
> I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works fine
> here, using firmware 4.36.
>
> Tnx & 73,
> Tim - N3XX
>
> On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> Hi group,
> Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,
> but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
> paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
> using firmware version 04.39.
> Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
>
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Gary Hinson

Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

Mmm, interesting.

Prompted by other comments, I tested CW-in-SSB band-by-band. Starting at
10m and working systematically down to 160m, the K3 would go into transmit
mode but produce no power out on any band. However, after moving 'down'
from 160m to 6m, it mysteriously started working again - and now works
correctly on every band.

So, it seems that merely by changing bands and hitting the paddle, I have
cleared whatever it was that blocked the transmitter in CW-in-SSB. How odd!

Frank (or anyone else whose CW-in-SSB doesn't work): perhaps you would try
the same thing?

It still smells of a firmware bug to me.

73
Gary ZL2iFB

> -----Original Message-----
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> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of iain macdonnell - N6ML
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:17 a.m.
> To: N3XX
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
>
> For one thing, it's quite useful on 6m, where DX will often switch back
and

> forth between CW and SSB on the same frequency).
>
> 73,
>
> ~iain / N6ML
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:11 PM, N3XX <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > I must be missing something. Can someone explain why you would want
> > to send CW in SSB mode?
> > I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works
> > fine here, using firmware 4.36.
> >
> > Tnx & 73,
> > Tim - N3XX
> >
> > On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > Hi group,
> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but it
> > no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in CONFIG:CW
> > WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle while in SSB
> > mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using firmware
> > version 04.39.
> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
> >
> >
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Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

In reply to this post by Frank R. Oppedijk-3

For those who say it is broken - are you by any chance in split mode? It does not work in split(at least for me). Otherwise, works fine.

Bob W6VY

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Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

In reply to this post by N3XX

Hi Frank and All,

It may have been mentioned before, because I come late to this thread. But,
I have noticed the same thing while I am in SPLIT mode, not otherwise.

I hope this helps.

73,

John, W2GW

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Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

> On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> Hi group,
> Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,
> but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
> paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
> using firmware version 04.39.
> Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
>
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Re: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

In reply to this post by Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2

Thanks Iain. I do hear guys doing that on 6 once in awhile. Also just
tuning around on 6 in ssb mode, many times I will hear someone on cw, so I
can see that it might be useful there also, being able to just give him a
call instead of switching modes & retuning.

73,
Tim - N3XX

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To: "N3XX" <[hidden email]>
Cc: <[hidden email]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

For one thing, it's quite useful on 6m, where DX will often switch
back and forth between CW and SSB on the same frequency).

73,

~iain / N6ML

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:11 PM, N3XX <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I must be missing something. Can someone explain why you would want to
> send
> CW in SSB mode?
> I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works fine
> here, using firmware 4.36.
>
> Tnx & 73,
> Tim - N3XX
>
> On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> Hi group,
> Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode,
> but it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my
> paddle while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm
> using firmware version 04.39.
> Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
>
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Gary Hinson

FW: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

In reply to this post by Iain MacDonnell - N6ML-2

<Resent as the original didn't appear - sri if this is a dupe>

Mmm, interesting.

Prompted by other comments, I tested CW-in-SSB band-by-band. Starting at
10m and working systematically down to 160m, the K3 would go into transmit
mode but produce no power out on any band. However, after moving 'down'
from 160m to 6m, it mysteriously started working again - and now works
correctly on every band.

So, it seems that merely by changing bands and hitting the paddle, I have
cleared whatever it was that blocked the transmitter in CW-in-SSB. How odd!

Frank (or anyone else whose CW-in-SSB doesn't work): perhaps you would try
the same thing?

It still smells of a firmware bug to me.

73
Gary ZL2iFB

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email] [mailto:elecraft-
> [hidden email]] On Behalf Of iain macdonnell - N6ML
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2012 11:17 a.m.
> To: N3XX
> Cc: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
>
> For one thing, it's quite useful on 6m, where DX will often switch
> back and forth between CW and SSB on the same frequency).
>
> 73,
>
> ~iain / N6ML
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:11 PM, N3XX <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > I must be missing something. Can someone explain why you would want
> > to send CW in SSB mode?
> > I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works
> > fine here, using firmware 4.36.
> >
> > Tnx & 73,
> > Tim - N3XX
> >
> > On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > Hi group,
> > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but
> > it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle
> > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using
> > firmware version 04.39.
> > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
> >
> >
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W7GJ, Lance

Re: FW: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

One thing that disappointed me is that this very useful cross-mode feature (at least
on 6m, where I do most of my operating), is available only if you are running VOX mode.

I am not sure why it has been excluded when you run with a footswitch or sequencer to
trigger the PTT line. I NEVER run VOX mode here, so I have been forced to use macros
to invoke SPLIT mode operation on different modes and different frequencies to try to
simulate the operation of the built-in cross mode feature.

Unless there is some special reason why can only ever work in VOX mode, those of us
using amplifiers and PTT mode would sure like to see this feature included in future
firmware updates!

Thanks for the bandwidth! VY 73, Lance

problem On 2/1/2012 7:09 PM, Gary Hinson [via Elecraft] wrote:

> <Resent as the original didn't appear - sri if this is a dupe>
>
> Mmm, interesting.
>
> Prompted by other comments, I tested CW-in-SSB band-by-band. Starting at
> 10m and working systematically down to 160m, the K3 would go into transmit
> mode but produce no power out on any band. However, after moving 'down'
> from 160m to 6m, it mysteriously started working again - and now works
> correctly on every band.
>
> So, it seems that merely by changing bands and hitting the paddle, I have
> cleared whatever it was that blocked the transmitter in CW-in-SSB. How odd!
>
> Frank (or anyone else whose CW-in-SSB doesn't work): perhaps you would try
> the same thing?
>
> It still smells of a firmware bug to me.
>
> 73
> Gary ZL2iFB
>
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> [mailto:elecraft-
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> > To: N3XX
> > Cc: [hidden email] </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7244038&i=2>
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: CW in SSB mode broken?
> >
> > For one thing, it's quite useful on 6m, where DX will often switch
> > back and forth between CW and SSB on the same frequency).
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > ~iain / N6ML
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:11 PM, N3XX <[hidden email]
> </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7244038&i=3>> wrote:
> > > I must be missing something. Â Can someone explain why you would want
> > > to send CW in SSB mode?
> > > I did go and find the setting, changed it to SSB +CW, and it works
> > > fine here, using firmware 4.36.
> > >
> > > Tnx & 73,
> > > Tim - N3XX
> > >
> > > On 1/31/12, Frank R. Oppedijk <<mailto:[hidden email]
> </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=7244038&i=4>>[hidden email]
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> > > Hi group,
> > > Some time ago, I used to be able to send CW while in SSB mode, but
> > > it no longer works. I do have the SSB +CW option on (press 1 in
> > > CONFIG:CW WGHT), and do have the CW sidetone when I key my paddle
> > > while in SSB mode. But the K3 does not produce RF output. I'm using
> > > firmware version 04.39.
> > > Did anyone else notice this? Have I missed something?
> > >
> > >
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Re: FW: K3: CW in SSB mode broken?

In reply to this post by Gary Hinson

One thing that disappointed me is that this very useful cross-mode feature (at least
on 6m, where I do most of my operating), is available only if you are running VOX mode.

I am not sure why it has been excluded when you run with a footswitch or sequencer to
trigger the PTT line. I NEVER run VOX mode here, so I have been forced to use macros
to invoke SPLIT mode operation on different modes and different frequencies to try to
simulate the operation of the built-in cross mode feature.

Unless there is some special reason why can only ever work in VOX mode, those of us
using amplifiers and PTT mode would sure like to see this feature included in future
firmware updates!

Thanks for the bandwidth! VY 73, Lance

On 2/1/2012 7:09 PM, Gary Hinson [via Elecraft] wrote: