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K3 at auction

Don Rasmussen
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Re: K3 at auction

Kevin Cozens-2
Don Rasmussen wrote:
> http://tinyurl.com/56ov95

Those people who have ordered a K3 have anxiously awaited its arrival and have
very rarely given up the wait. Why are you selling yours (before it has even
been built)?

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Re: K3 at auction

Jim Cox
He is buying extras and reselling at a profit while the rest of us wait for delivery of ours!!!!

Jim K4JAF

-------------- Original message from Kevin Cozens <[hidden email]>: --------------


> Don Rasmussen wrote:
> > http://tinyurl.com/56ov95 
>
> Those people who have ordered a K3 have anxiously awaited its arrival and have
> very rarely given up the wait. Why are you selling yours (before it has even
> been built)?
>
> --
> Cheers!
>
> Kevin.
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Re: K3 at auction

Ian Stirling, G4ICV, AB2GR
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On Saturday 26 April 2008 12:43:57 pm Kevin Cozens wrote:

> Those people who have ordered a K3 have anxiously awaited its arrival and have
> very rarely given up the wait. Why are you selling yours (before it has even
> been built)?
>

On the ebay page, here's a clue ..
"Look for my other factory sealed Elecraft K3 items in future auctions."

 Making a profit on the high demand and low supply is my guess.

Ian, G4ICV, AB2GR, K2 #4962
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Re: K3 at auction

John Klewer
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Gotta love capitalism.....




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> He is buying extras and reselling at a profit while the rest of us wait for delivery of ours!!!!
>
> Jim K4JAF
>
> -------------- Original message from Kevin Cozens <[hidden email]>: --------------
>
>
>  
>> Don Rasmussen wrote:
>>    
>>> http://tinyurl.com/56ov95 
>>>      
>> Those people who have ordered a K3 have anxiously awaited its arrival and have
>> very rarely given up the wait. Why are you selling yours (before it has even
>> been built)?
>>
>> --
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Kevin.
>>
>> http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |"What are we going to do today, Borg?"
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Re: K3 at auction

Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
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I find the array of national flags amusing, since he won't accept a non-US
delivery address.

Investing in futures is a way to make or lose a lot of money.
But I have to say, K3's look like a good investment to me, unless, of
course, the price drops with volume production.

And note that built K2's sell for less than the kits.  It's a
different situation, home built vs factory, but still....

73, doug


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Re: K3 at auction

AJSOENKE
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Is the Country configuration of the K3 an issue?
 
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RE: K3 at Auction

Dave Agsten
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I guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit on them while Elecraft catches up. Some folks must be willing to pay a premium for not having to wait. The law of Supply and Demand is applied here, although, in my opinion, it's sure not, in the spirit of ham radio. I know I wouldn't do it, nor would I bid on it. It's the same thing as ticket scalping, even though that is illegal in some places. Free enterprise is just that, free to do whatever is legal.

The listing on ebay mentions the reserve price at that of an assembled kit due to sales tax, shipping and "other" fees. $80 or so for shipping and other fees from Aptos, California to Carlsbad, California? Other "sealed Elecraft K3 items" in future auctions are also mentioned. I won't be bidding on those either. I would hope that no one would bid on them but that won't happen.

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Re: RE: K3 at Auction

George Victor-2
Can't agree with you more Dave,
I am into telescopes as well as ham radio, and there is a high end
manufacturer of telescopes named Astro-Physics (www.astro-physics.com)
They have a waiting list that goes for 3 to 4 years!  Anyway, their
policy is if they catch someone doing the "scalp thing" the person is
blacklisted and is not allowed to purchase any more items from the
company.
I think Elecraft should follow suit.
George
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Re: RE: K3 at Auction

Jim Cox
Amen, agree completely.   Jim K4JAF

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction


> Can't agree with you more Dave,
> I am into telescopes as well as ham radio, and there is a high end
> manufacturer of telescopes named Astro-Physics (www.astro-physics.com)
> They have a waiting list that goes for 3 to 4 years!  Anyway, their
> policy is if they catch someone doing the "scalp thing" the person is
> blacklisted and is not allowed to purchase any more items from the
> company.
> I think Elecraft should follow suit.
> George
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RE: K3 at Auction

Don Rasmussen
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I'll tell you what's not in the spirit of amateur
radio Dave, and that's likening a fellow ham that you
don't even know to a "ticket scalper" in public
because you "guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a
profit".

Do you know that? DonÂ’t think so because it isnÂ’t
true.  

There are hundreds or thousands of ham radios on ebay
at any given time and you of course are welcome to
your opinion about this subject and ebay as much as
anyone, but postings like this in one public is pretty
bad juju.

I was apprehensive when I ordered the gear, not
because I was afraid of losing on it, but because I
was doing it to have some fun while I waited for my
own K3, a diversion like the wiki I created, and was
afraid that someone might characterize me negatively
about it.

Rest assured there is not enough money that I could
make on an auction  (my last one occurred in 1999) to
compromise my good name.

So please, lighten up, it's not a  body part I'm
selling, it's a radio. Or don't lighten up, but
keeping opinions that are based on conjecture in
private is most often the best policy - IMO.

de wb8yqj


[Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
Dave Agsten w4txs at yahoo.com
Sun Apr 27 17:38:08 EDT 2008

I guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit on
them while Elecraft catches up. Some folks must be
willing to pay a premium for not having to wait. The
law of Supply and Demand is applied here, although, in
my opinion, it's sure not, in the spirit of ham radio.
I know I wouldn't do it, nor would I bid on it. It's
the same thing as ticket scalping, even though that is
illegal in some places. Free enterprise is just that,
free to do whatever is legal.

The listing on ebay mentions the reserve price at that
of an assembled kit due to sales tax, shipping and
"other" fees. $80 or so for shipping and other fees
from Aptos, California to Carlsbad, California? Other
"sealed Elecraft K3 items" in future auctions are also
mentioned. I won't be bidding on those either. I would
hope that no one would bid on them but that won't
happen.
Dave N8AG



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Re: RE: K3 at Auction

George Victor-2
Chill out Rasmussen,
We all know know what you did...
Can't hide your act.
George


On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Don Rasmussen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'll tell you what's not in the spirit of amateur
>  radio Dave, and that's likening a fellow ham that you
>  don't even know to a "ticket scalper" in public
>  because you "guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a
>  profit".
>
>  Do you know that? Don't think so because it isn't
>  true.
>
>  There are hundreds or thousands of ham radios on ebay
>  at any given time and you of course are welcome to
>  your opinion about this subject and ebay as much as
>  anyone, but postings like this in one public is pretty
>  bad juju.
>
>  I was apprehensive when I ordered the gear, not
>  because I was afraid of losing on it, but because I
>  was doing it to have some fun while I waited for my
>  own K3, a diversion like the wiki I created, and was
>  afraid that someone might characterize me negatively
>  about it.
>
>  Rest assured there is not enough money that I could
>  make on an auction  (my last one occurred in 1999) to
>  compromise my good name.
>
>  So please, lighten up, it's not a  body part I'm
>  selling, it's a radio. Or don't lighten up, but
>  keeping opinions that are based on conjecture in
>  private is most often the best policy - IMO.
>
>  de wb8yqj
>
>
>
>  [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
>  Dave Agsten w4txs at yahoo.com
>  Sun Apr 27 17:38:08 EDT 2008
>
>
>  I guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit on
>  them while Elecraft catches up. Some folks must be
>  willing to pay a premium for not having to wait. The
>  law of Supply and Demand is applied here, although, in
>  my opinion, it's sure not, in the spirit of ham radio.
>  I know I wouldn't do it, nor would I bid on it. It's
>  the same thing as ticket scalping, even though that is
>  illegal in some places. Free enterprise is just that,
>  free to do whatever is legal.
>
>  The listing on ebay mentions the reserve price at that
>  of an assembled kit due to sales tax, shipping and
>  "other" fees. $80 or so for shipping and other fees
>  from Aptos, California to Carlsbad, California? Other
>  "sealed Elecraft K3 items" in future auctions are also
>  mentioned. I won't be bidding on those either. I would
>  hope that no one would bid on them but that won't
>  happen.
>  Dave N8AG
>
>
>
>
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Re: RE: K3 at Auction

Dave Martin-2
On 4/28/08, George Victor <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Chill out Rasmussen,
>  We all know know what you did...
>  Can't hide your act.
>
> George
>
Doesn't bother me, probably doesn't bother Aptos.  They're selling all
they can make, and they've jacked up their price, too.  I may put my
#605 up for sale if they don't get the bugs out and the features in.
If I do, I'll take bids and see how much I can make above what I paid
for it.  Everyone please stand by with their torches for my
announcement.

Dave  W5DHM
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Re: RE: K3 at Auction

George Victor-2
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Re: RE: K3 at Auction

S Sacco
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Capitalists and Comrades:

Methinks it's time for some folks to reaquaint themselves with the
List Guidlines, specifically, #5:

5. Please keep all postings cordial. Please restrain the urge to email
someone admonishing them about a posting. The last thing we want to do
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73,

Steve


On 4/28/08, Don Rasmussen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'll tell you what's not in the spirit of amateur
> radio Dave, and that's likening a fellow ham that you
> don't even know to a "ticket scalper" in public
> because you "guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a
> profit".
>
> Do you know that? Don't think so because it isn't
> true.
>
> There are hundreds or thousands of ham radios on ebay
> at any given time and you of course are welcome to
> your opinion about this subject and ebay as much as
> anyone, but postings like this in one public is pretty
> bad juju.
>
> I was apprehensive when I ordered the gear, not
> because I was afraid of losing on it, but because I
> was doing it to have some fun while I waited for my
> own K3, a diversion like the wiki I created, and was
> afraid that someone might characterize me negatively
> about it.
>
> Rest assured there is not enough money that I could
> make on an auction  (my last one occurred in 1999) to
> compromise my good name.
>
> So please, lighten up, it's not a  body part I'm
> selling, it's a radio. Or don't lighten up, but
> keeping opinions that are based on conjecture in
> private is most often the best policy - IMO.
>
> de wb8yqj
>
>
> [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
> Dave Agsten w4txs at yahoo.com
> Sun Apr 27 17:38:08 EDT 2008
>
> I guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit on
> them while Elecraft catches up. Some folks must be
> willing to pay a premium for not having to wait. The
> law of Supply and Demand is applied here, although, in
> my opinion, it's sure not, in the spirit of ham radio.
> I know I wouldn't do it, nor would I bid on it. It's
> the same thing as ticket scalping, even though that is
> illegal in some places. Free enterprise is just that,
> free to do whatever is legal.
>
> The listing on ebay mentions the reserve price at that
> of an assembled kit due to sales tax, shipping and
> "other" fees. $80 or so for shipping and other fees
> from Aptos, California to Carlsbad, California? Other
> "sealed Elecraft K3 items" in future auctions are also
> mentioned. I won't be bidding on those either. I would
> hope that no one would bid on them but that won't
> happen.
> Dave N8AG
>
>
>
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Re: RE: K3 at Auction

Stewart Baker
Well put...

73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:19:24 -0400, S Sacco wrote:
> Capitalists and Comrades:
>
> Methinks it's time for some folks to reaquaint themselves with
the
> List Guidlines, specifically, #5:
>
> 5. Please keep all postings cordial. Please restrain the urge to
email
> someone admonishing them about a posting. The last thing we want
to do
> is to scare anyone off the list. Overly aggressive postings and
> negative comments about other posters only serves to scare away
new
> potential list members. Waiting over night before hitting 'send'
> really helps to put things in perspective.. If you have a
complaint

> about someone or a thread please email it directly to
> [hidden email]
>
>
> URL: <http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 4/28/08, Don Rasmussen <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> I'll tell you what's not in the spirit of amateur
>> radio Dave, and that's likening a fellow ham that you
>> don't even know to a "ticket scalper" in public
>> because you "guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a
>> profit".
>>
>> Do you know that? Don't think so because it isn't
>> true.
>>
>> There are hundreds or thousands of ham radios on ebay
>> at any given time and you of course are welcome to
>> your opinion about this subject and ebay as much as
>> anyone, but postings like this in one public is pretty
>> bad juju.
>>
>> I was apprehensive when I ordered the gear, not
>> because I was afraid of losing on it, but because I
>> was doing it to have some fun while I waited for my
>> own K3, a diversion like the wiki I created, and was
>> afraid that someone might characterize me negatively
>> about it.
>>
>> Rest assured there is not enough money that I could
>> make on an auction  (my last one occurred in 1999) to
>> compromise my good name.
>>
>> So please, lighten up, it's not a  body part I'm
>> selling, it's a radio. Or don't lighten up, but
>> keeping opinions that are based on conjecture in
>> private is most often the best policy - IMO.
>>
>> de wb8yqj
>>
>>
>> [Elecraft] RE: K3 at Auction
>> Dave Agsten w4txs at yahoo.com
>> Sun Apr 27 17:38:08 EDT 2008
>>
>> I guess that he ordered a few K3s to make a profit on
>> them while Elecraft catches up. Some folks must be
>> willing to pay a premium for not having to wait. The
>> law of Supply and Demand is applied here, although, in
>> my opinion, it's sure not, in the spirit of ham radio.
>> I know I wouldn't do it, nor would I bid on it. It's
>> the same thing as ticket scalping, even though that is
>> illegal in some places. Free enterprise is just that,
>> free to do whatever is legal.
>>
>> The listing on ebay mentions the reserve price at that
>> of an assembled kit due to sales tax, shipping and
>> "other" fees. $80 or so for shipping and other fees
>> from Aptos, California to Carlsbad, California? Other
>> "sealed Elecraft K3 items" in future auctions are also
>> mentioned. I won't be bidding on those either. I would
>> hope that no one would bid on them but that won't
>> happen.
>> Dave N8AG
>>
>>
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RE: RE: K3 at Auction

Darwin, Keith
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I may put my (K3) #605 up for sale if they don't get the bugs out and
the features in.
If I do, I'll take bids and see how much I can make above what I paid
for it.  
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The premium folks are willing to pay (yes, they're willing to pay it) is
a temporary thing.  Once Elecraft gets them in stock, the "good times"
will be over.  If you want to sell you K3 quickly at a profit, then get
'er up on e-bay sooner than later.

K2's are the same.  They used to command a premium on e-bay and were few
& far between.  Now that the K3 is being delivered, there are a bunch of
K2s on e-bay and prices have dropped (become more typical of used gear).

- Keith N1AS -
- K3 711 -
- K5 5411 SOLD -
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Remote Power on/off

Richard Thorne
The current subject of having the ability to turn the display on/off while operating remote could be solved another way.  

I would prefer to be able to turn the rig on/off with a software command.  Not sure if this is a possible modification or not.  Is the power switch a soft switch or is it a hard switch?

Rich - N5ZC
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RE: Remote Power on/off

Dick Dievendorff
You can turn the K3 off with a software command.  To turn it on, you need to manipulate the level of one of the AUX I/O pins (the 15-pin connector on the back of the rig).  That could be done by an external device of some sort.

Dick, K6KR


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Subject: [Elecraft] Remote Power on/off

The current subject of having the ability to turn the display on/off while operating remote could be solved another way.  

I would prefer to be able to turn the rig on/off with a software command.  Not sure if this is a possible modification or not.  Is the power switch a soft switch or is it a hard switch?

Rich - N5ZC
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Re: Remote Power on/off

GW0ETF
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Page 1 of the Programmer's Reference perhaps...? Command PS (Power-on/off control) would seem to fit the bill.

Stewart Rolfe, GW0ETF

Richard Thorne-3 wrote
The current subject of having the ability to turn the display on/off while operating remote could be solved another way.  

I would prefer to be able to turn the rig on/off with a software command.  Not sure if this is a possible modification or not.  Is the power switch a soft switch or is it a hard switch?

Rich - N5ZC
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