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Dick Dievendorff

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Would the loggers object to receiving responses to commands that they didn't
issue?

Dick, K6KR

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Dick Dievendorff wrote:
>
> Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function? Instead of a
> contest logger?
>

Why would you need to, given LP-PAN, VSPE etc?

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Dave Hachadorian

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

In reply to this post by Dick Dievendorff

As previously reported:

1. Eliminate power transients when transmitting FSK-D.

2. Raise threshold on AF Limiter to prevent gross distortion when
receiving CW with AGC OFF.

Thanks for listening, and Merry Christmas to all!

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Yuma, AZ

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akiwi ham

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

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Yes!
I don't use the K3 internal keyer for exactly that reason.

Bryan, Zl1NI

> ..........................................
> The K3 built-in keyer is very good as it is, but I miss the
> automatic
> character spacing of my favorite external keyers (CMOS Super Keyer,
> Logikeyers, Accukeyers, etc.). As a CW operator, I would love to see
> that
> feature on the list.
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> John W2XS

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Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

- Main and Sub Rx audiomix:
Leftchannel -> 100% main and 50% sub and
Rightchannel -> 100% sub and 50% main

- Bring Notch filter inside AGC-loop (or partly inside)

- P3 point and click to change freq with a usb-MOUSE

Thanks
73
Arie PA3A

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Grant Youngman

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

In reply to this post by akiwi ham

I'e been using the same (now old) homebrew Accu-keyer with auto character spacing since the articles were originally published in QST. I'm so used to the timing, it's hard to send decent CW otherwise. Except with a Lightning Bug, although some may not consider the swing "decent" :-)

It would be a nice-to-have feature. I've ever used the internal keyer on any radio I've owned since they are generally a featureless afterthought included to put another checkmark on somebody's list.

Grant/NQ5T

On Dec 23, 2009, at 3:06 PM, Bryan, ZL1NI wrote:

> Yes!
> I don't use the K3 internal keyer for exactly that reason.
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Gary, W7TEA

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

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I would love to see separate volume adjustments for Spot and Sidetone.

Happy Holidays to all!

73, Gary W7TEA

73,

Gary W7TEA K3 #1001, #5763

Phil Salas

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

For external amplifier and external high power auto-tuner use, I'd like to
see the followiong:

1) External ground that automatically puts the K3 into a low power CW tune
mode. This is normally a command from an external auto-tuner that comes
after an amplifier.

2) When the low power tune mode input is externally supplied (from a remote
autotuner), you should have the option of disabling the amp-key output of
the K3 since you want to tune your autotuner with low power. This is not
necessary with some autotuners. As an example, you can pass the amp-key
from the K3 thru the MFJ-998 and the MFJ-998 unkeys the amp for you before
it starts to tune. But other autotuners (like the LDG AT1000PRO) don't have
this feature.

3) Power level saved per antenna per band. I have my amplifier set up on
ANT2, since my amp doesn't have 6 meters. This way I can operate barefoot
on ANT1 thru 6 meters. When I put the amp in-line I use ANT2. If the power
could be saved differently on ANT2, then I could properly set the amp drive
per band and it would always be correct.

73,
Phil - AD5X

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wc1m

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

In reply to this post by Dick Dievendorff

Dick,

LP-Bridge acts as a traffic cop that allows multiple programs to share the
K3 COM port without interfering with each other. It opens the K3 COM port
and sends various commands to obtain a continous flow of commonly-sought
status information. It intercepts status commands from multiple programs
attached to virtual COM ports and routes the appropriate status information
to them. When a program sends a command to the K3 that elicits a specific
reponse, the response is sent back to that program only.

73, Dick WC1M

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:35 PM
> To: 'Julian, G4ILO'; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software
>
> Would the loggers object to receiving responses to commands that they
didn't

> issue?
>
> Dick, K6KR
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:28 PM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application

software

>
>
>
>
> Dick Dievendorff wrote:
> >
> > Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function? Instead of a
> > contest logger?
> >
>
> Why would you need to, given LP-PAN, VSPE etc?
>
> -----
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Dick Dievendorff

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

If one program opens a menu, and another program sends a VFO "UP" command,
is the second program's UP command deferred somehow because the first
program has a menu open?

If one program sends a frequency change command, will the second program be
aware of that new frequency without polling?

My point is that the programs must cooperate, and that's not always
possible.

Dick

-----Original Message-----
From: Dick Green WC1M [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:31 PM
To: 'Dick Dievendorff'; 'Julian, G4ILO'; [hidden email]
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Dick,

LP-Bridge acts as a traffic cop that allows multiple programs to share the
K3 COM port without interfering with each other. It opens the K3 COM port
and sends various commands to obtain a continous flow of commonly-sought
status information. It intercepts status commands from multiple programs
attached to virtual COM ports and routes the appropriate status information
to them. When a program sends a command to the K3 that elicits a specific
reponse, the response is sent back to that program only.

73, Dick WC1M

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:35 PM
> To: 'Julian, G4ILO'; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software
>
> Would the loggers object to receiving responses to commands that they
didn't

software

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wc1m

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

My wish is to be able to change any setting while transmitting. Most
important, I would like to be able to change Width, Shift, Hi, Lo, RIT/XIT,
RIT/XIT on/off, and RIT/XIT CLR. I'd also like to be able to change EQ, VOX
and AGC parameters, though those are less important.

73, Dick WC1M

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Burdick [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:02 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector; [hidden email];
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> Subject: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software
>
> Hi all,
>
> As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and
> improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested
> changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the
> demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:
> switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with
> PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,
> and many enhanced remote-control commands.)
>
> As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list
> based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of
> course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is
> missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to
> use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for
> specific operating situations.
>
> We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software
> developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3
> firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the
> developers and work with them closely.
>
> We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new
> products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>

Paul - WW2PT

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

1. Restore the full range of SHIFT while in 10 Hz resolution
(currently limited to 1.28 to 1.72 kHz) to match the range while set
to 50 Hz steps (0.05 to 2.60 kHz).

2. Increase power output to around 800W by means of some sort of
external add-on device. :-)

Merry Christmas!
Paul WW2PT

On Dec 23, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and
> improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested
> changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the
> demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:
> switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with
> PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,
> and many enhanced remote-control commands.)
>
> As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list
> based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of
> course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is
> missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to
> use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for
> specific operating situations.
>
> We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software
> developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3
> firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the
> developers and work with them closely.
>
> We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new
> products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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AD6XY

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

There is a lot here about the K3 firmware tweaks - so I will address the other sides of Wayne's question.

Application software - I have a KRC2 and I would like it to know the difference between 6m and 10m. In fact it would be nice to get away from the fixed bands per relay and instead map bands and potentially sub-bands to relays via the utility. The new KRC2 firmware can apparently manage this but unfortunately the KRC2 setting utility can not yet program it. It would be great to have an update to that.

Not asked but new hardware - how about a multiple antenna output board without an ATU? Especially for those of us using HF and 6m beams. The IC7000 has 4 antenna sockets. The K3 has 1.

Please can we have an XV70 transverter? Many more Eu states are getting 4m.

wc1m

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

In reply to this post by Dick Dievendorff

Not sure exactly what you're describing in the first example, but I believe
the answer is that the commands are serialized. I'm not sure just how clever
LP-Bridge may be about deferring or discarding commands that can't be
executed because the rig is in a state that prevents it. This probably
happens all the time, without LP-Bridge, when the rig is transmitting and
the logger wants to change some parameter that can't be changed during
transmit. The command is essentially ignored in that case.

The second example is straightforward. If a program sends a frequency change
command, the second program won't be aware of it unless it polls or sends an
appropriate status query command. But this is no different from the scenario
where the user manually twirls the VFO dial. That's why most programs that
need frequency information either poll or issue commands to get status when
it's needed.

73, Dick WC1M

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 5:38 PM
> To: [hidden email]; 'Julian, G4ILO'; [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software
>
> If one program opens a menu, and another program sends a VFO "UP" command,
> is the second program's UP command deferred somehow because the first
> program has a menu open?
>
> If one program sends a frequency change command, will the second program
be

> aware of that new frequency without polling?
>
> My point is that the programs must cooperate, and that's not always
> possible.
>
> Dick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Green WC1M [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:31 PM
> To: 'Dick Dievendorff'; 'Julian, G4ILO'; [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application

software
>
> Dick,
>
> LP-Bridge acts as a traffic cop that allows multiple programs to share the
> K3 COM port without interfering with each other. It opens the K3 COM port
> and sends various commands to obtain a continous flow of commonly-sought
> status information. It intercepts status commands from multiple programs
> attached to virtual COM ports and routes the appropriate status
information

> to them. When a program sends a command to the K3 that elicits a specific
> reponse, the response is sent back to that program only.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:[hidden email]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:35 PM
> > To: 'Julian, G4ILO'; [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
> software
> >
> > Would the loggers object to receiving responses to commands that they
> didn't
> > issue?
> >
> > Dick, K6KR
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [hidden email]
> > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:28 PM
> > To: [hidden email]
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
> software
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dick Dievendorff wrote:
> > >
> > > Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function? Instead of

> > > contest logger?
> > >
> >
> > Why would you need to, given LP-PAN, VSPE etc?
> >
> > -----
> > Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222.
> > * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
> > * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
> > * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html
> >
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> >
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wayne burdick

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

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In reply to this post by Dick Dievendorff

I don't think all such cases can handled in reality. Programs doing
menu manipulation should capture the full attention of the radio. The
user should be instructed to turn everything else off in this case.

Wayne

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On Dec 23, 2009, at 2:38 PM, "Dick Dievendorff" <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> If one program opens a menu, and another program sends a VFO "UP"
> command,
> is the second program's UP command deferred somehow because the first
> program has a menu open?
>
> If one program sends a frequency change command, will the second
> program be
> aware of that new frequency without polling?
>
> My point is that the programs must cooperate, and that's not always
> possible.
>
> Dick
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dick Green WC1M [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:31 PM
> To: 'Dick Dievendorff'; 'Julian, G4ILO'; [hidden email]
> Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
> software
>
> Dick,
>
> LP-Bridge acts as a traffic cop that allows multiple programs to
> share the
> K3 COM port without interfering with each other. It opens the K3 COM
> port
> and sends various commands to obtain a continous flow of commonly-
> sought
> status information. It intercepts status commands from multiple
> programs
> attached to virtual COM ports and routes the appropriate status
> information
> to them. When a program sends a command to the K3 that elicits a
> specific
> reponse, the response is sent back to that program only.
>
> 73, Dick WC1M
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dick Dievendorff [mailto:[hidden email]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:35 PM
>> To: 'Julian, G4ILO'; [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
> software
>>
>> Would the loggers object to receiving responses to commands that they
> didn't
>> issue?
>>
>> Dick, K6KR
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [hidden email]
>> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Julian, G4ILO
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 12:28 PM
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
> software
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Dick Dievendorff wrote:
>>>
>>> Would you dedicate the K3's serial port to this function? Instead
>>> of a
>>> contest logger?
>>>
>>
>> Why would you need to, given LP-PAN, VSPE etc?
>>
>> -----
>> Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222.
>> * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com
>> * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html
>> * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html
>>
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Dick Dievendorff

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

I agree. Several subset cases can be shared within the scope of LP-Bridge's
virtualization of the K3. I just don't know where the edge is... Opening a
menu is perhaps not something you'd want to do with multiple applications
running.

Dick

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:21 PM
To: Dick Dievendorff
Cc: <[hidden email]>; Julian, G4ILO; <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

I don't think all such cases can handled in reality. Programs doing
menu manipulation should capture the full attention of the radio. The
user should be instructed to turn everything else off in this case.

Wayne

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Julian, G4ILO

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Perhaps the solution is to make it possible to obtain information
about the state of things that an operator might want to change
without having to open a menu?

Barry asked for some specific information to be displayed on-screen.
He was not even requesting the ability to change those items from the
computer. Perhaps there could be an "extra information" command that
reported the current state of various settings that are not displayed
on the K3 screen but which an operator can readily change and would
want to check on? I'm not sure why he wanted to see AGC configuration
settings as I would not consider those to be something that is
normally changed during operation. Many operators probably never
change those settings.

On 23/12/2009, Dick Dievendorff <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I agree. Several subset cases can be shared within the scope of LP-Bridge's
> virtualization of the K3. I just don't know where the edge is... Opening a
> menu is perhaps not something you'd want to do with multiple applications
> running.
>
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* KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html

Dick Dievendorff

Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Barry asked for the ability to display AGC parameters. These values are
currently read by accessing menus and reading them from the VFO A display
area. During that menu access, another application might send an UP or DN
command, which could change one of the AGC parameters. That's my only
point. New single-command queries could solve that particular issue.

I don't know the list of K3 commands that LP-Bridge blocks. I don't know how
LP-Bridge uses its knowledge of what one application is doing to influence
the commands permitted by another. I'm using the TelepostInc.com LPB html
help page as my source of info on what LP-Bridge does.

LP-Bridge offers a useful subset of the K3 Command set to many applications.
But it's the LP-Bridge virtualization that these applications see, and
that's different from the K3 programmer's reference command set. This is a
very useful subset, but arguably insufficient for the requested application.

Dick, K6KR

-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Moss [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 3:40 PM
To: Dick Dievendorff
Cc: Wayne Burdick; [hidden email]; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Perhaps the solution is to make it possible to obtain information
about the state of things that an operator might want to change
without having to open a menu?

Barry asked for some specific information to be displayed on-screen.
He was not even requesting the ability to change those items from the
computer. Perhaps there could be an "extra information" command that
reported the current state of various settings that are not displayed
on the K3 screen but which an operator can readily change and would
want to check on? I'm not sure why he wanted to see AGC configuration
settings as I would not consider those to be something that is
normally changed during operation. Many operators probably never
change those settings.

On 23/12/2009, Dick Dievendorff <[hidden email]> wrote:
> I agree. Several subset cases can be shared within the scope of
LP-Bridge's
> virtualization of the K3. I just don't know where the edge is... Opening
a
> menu is perhaps not something you'd want to do with multiple applications
> running.
>
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Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Yes. I don't know why he asked for that. Perhaps he would care to say
why it would be useful? I don't think that many people would want that
information on display in real time so I wouldn't expect that
developers would rush to provide a display that showed AGC parameters
anyway.

Applications should not be accessing menus unless they are
configuration tools which should not be used while loggers and other
software is running. If developers find a need to access menus in
their applications for reasons other than configuration, it could
indicate there is a need for a command that could directly access that
information.

On 23/12/2009, Dick Dievendorff <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Barry asked for the ability to display AGC parameters. These values are
> currently read by accessing menus and reading them from the VFO A display
> area. During that menu access, another application might send an UP or DN
> command, which could change one of the AGC parameters. That's my only
> point. New single-command queries could solve that particular issue.

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Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

Julian Moss G4ILO wrote:

> If developers find a need to access menus in
> their applications for reasons other than configuration, it could
> indicate there is a need for a command that could directly access that
> information.

I couldn't agree more.

73, Dick WC1M

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Julian Moss [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2009 7:08 PM
> To: Dick Dievendorff
> Cc: Wayne Burdick; [hidden email]; [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application
software

>
> Yes. I don't know why he asked for that. Perhaps he would care to say
> why it would be useful? I don't think that many people would want that
> information on display in real time so I wouldn't expect that
> developers would rush to provide a display that showed AGC parameters
> anyway.
>
> Applications should not be accessing menus unless they are
> configuration tools which should not be used while loggers and other
> software is running. If developers find a need to access menus in
> their applications for reasons other than configuration, it could
> indicate there is a need for a command that could directly access that
> information.
>
> On 23/12/2009, Dick Dievendorff <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Barry asked for the ability to display AGC parameters. These values are
> > currently read by accessing menus and reading them from the VFO A

display
> > area. During that menu access, another application might send an UP or
DN
> > command, which could change one of the AGC parameters. That's my only
> > point. New single-command queries could solve that particular issue.
>
> --
> Julian, G4ILO
> G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com

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Re: K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software

In reply to this post by wayne burdick

Rather than call this by a term that might be confusing let me explain how my other radio works and suggest that the K3 have an option for the same.

In my TS-870 I can set sub-band limits for mode. For example, from 14.000 to 14.150 the mode defaults to CW. If I tune above 14.150 the radio switches to USB. If I step back to 14.150 or below, it's back to CW.

Of course I can manually override this in cases like when a DX station is on SSB working split on 40-meters and he's in the U.S. CW band.

Wes N7WS

--- On Wed, 12/23/09, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]>
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 needs survey -- firmware and application software
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>, [hidden email], [hidden email]
Date: Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 11:02 AM

Hi all,

As you probably know, we keep a list of firmware features and
improvements to be added as time permits. Many of the most-requested
changes were made over the past several months, keeping pace with the
demands of the fall/winter contest season. (A few that come to mind:
switch sequence automation via macros, improved DVR interaction with
PTT, main/sub audio mixing, improved NR, lockable transmit controls,
and many enhanced remote-control commands.)

As we head into 2010, we'd like to refresh the master firmware list
based on your input. Items already on the list have priority, of
course, but this is a great opportunity to let us know what else is
missing or could be improved. Our goal is to make the K3 as easy to
use as possible, while providing the advanced features you need for
specific operating situations.

We're also planning a renewed effort to assist application software
developers. If your ideas for improvements involve changes to both K3
firmware and a favorite application, we'll pass it along to the
developers and work with them closely.

We're making great progress on the P3 Panadapter and other new
products. There will be some surprises in 2010 :)

73,
Wayne
N6KR

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