K3 panadapter choices
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Researching my options for a K3 panadapter (Softrock, LP-PAN, SDR-IQ, Perseus, Mercury...) I want to thank Paul W9AC for sharing his experience with the SDR-IQ on the list:
"When observing signal strength on the display, there's ample resolution for signal comparisons. SDR-IQ is powered from the PC's USB port, so only two connections are made (I.F. and USB). SpectraVue supports the K3 and using the "point 'n click" feature has been great. Click on the display and the K3 instantly moves to that frequency. The only shortcoming I've found is that SpectraVue needs to poll the K3's mode offset data so that changing modes does not require an offset change in SpectraVue. Not sure if that's handled automatically when using LP-PAN and PowerSDR." I would be very interested to read similar detail about the other possible hardware and software choices. An overview table showing which spectrum analysis software packages work with which hardware choices would be very helpful. As long as a the hardware is used for spectrum display (not as a receiver to be listened to) it seems to me that hardware in the low to middle price range is good enough. The issue then is the software choice first and then finding hardware compatible with the software. When choosing software I would really like to know if there is any package available today that already adjusts for the mode offset, or is planned to do so in the near future. A wide and narrow spectrum display window may also be a positive feature in comparing one software package to another, especially if one is going to run other software at the same time. If one contemplates actually listening to the outboard SDR, it seems that more money does buy better performance, although probably none of the reasonable hardware choices will be as good in some contests as the second receiver option of the K3, which has roofing filters. On the other hand, it would hardly be practical for an assistant operator to reach the K3 controls to make use of the second receiver, while the computer controlling an outboard SDR could easily be used by an assistant operator. (Of course depending on the contest, this may or may not be legal for a given entry class.) Maybe the second RX in a K3 could be run from a computer while the rig is otherwise run from the front panel? Maybe two computers (one per operator) could be used to control the K3 with second RX. I don't have experience with the various rig control software available, so I hope someone can enlighten me. 73, Erik K7TV |
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I agree. I also wonder why a device that is basically only needed to display a wiggly line showing band activity needs to cost as much as a budget transceiver. An SDR is basically not a lot different from a direct conversion receiver which QRPers habitually knock up in an hour or two using parts from their junk box. The computer sound card and software does most of the work. And for K3 panadapter use you don't even need a tunable oscillator. I would be interested in ideas in which ingenuity rather than wads of cash are used to meet the requirement. The idea for a simple SDR by EA3GHS described here http://ea3ghs.googlepages.com/VERY-SIMPLE-SOFTWARE-DEFINED-DSB-RAD.doc looks like a possible answer, though I'm not knowledgeable enough to adapt it to this purpose. The author suggests it is a bit lacking in sensitivity and that the oscillator signal could be radiated, both of which would presumably solved by adding an amplifier stage to the input.
Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222 KX3 #110
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K7TV wrote:
> Researching my options for a K3 panadapter (Softrock, LP-PAN, SDR-IQ, > Perseus, Mercury...) I want to thank Paul W9AC for sharing his experience > with the SDR-IQ on the list: > > "When observing signal strength on the display, there's ample resolution for signal comparisons. SDR-IQ is powered from the PC's USB port, so only two connections are made (I.F. and USB). SpectraVue supports the K3 and using the "point 'n click" feature has been great. Click on the display and the K3 instantly moves to that frequency. The only shortcoming I've found is that SpectraVue needs to poll the K3's mode offset data so that changing modes does not require an offset change in SpectraVue. Not sure if that's handled automatically when using LP-PAN and PowerSDR." > > I would be very interested to read similar detail about the other possible > hardware and software choices. An overview table showing which spectrum > analysis software packages work with which hardware choices would be very > helpful. > As long as a the hardware is used for spectrum display (not as a receiver to > be listened to) it seems to me that hardware in the low to middle price > range is good enough. The issue then is the software choice first and then > finding hardware compatible with the software. When choosing software I > would really like to know if there is any package available today that > already adjusts for the mode offset, or is planned to do so in the near > future. A wide and narrow spectrum display window may also be a positive > feature in comparing one software package to another, especially if one is > going to run other software at the same time. > If one contemplates actually listening to the outboard SDR, it seems that > more money does buy better performance, although probably none of the > reasonable hardware choices will be as good in some contests as the second > receiver option of the K3, which has roofing filters. On the other hand, it > would hardly be practical for an assistant operator to reach the K3 controls > to make use of the second receiver, while the computer controlling an > outboard SDR could easily be used by an assistant operator. (Of course > depending on the contest, this may or may not be legal for a given entry > class.) Maybe the second RX in a K3 could be run from a computer while the > rig is otherwise run from the front panel? Maybe two computers (one per > operator) could be used to control the K3 with second RX. I don't have > experience with the various rig control software available, so I hope > someone can enlighten me. > > 73, > Erik K7TV > Hello Erik, I have been using an SDR-IQ receiver here as strictly a waterfall display of the band. I also have purchased an LP-PAN here, which I think will be nice because its center will move as the K3 is tuned. The reason I don't have it working so far is because my setup here is kind of non-traditional, and they way I have my logging program connected to my K3 and sequencer doesn't seem to easily work with LP-PAN, and I can't get the PowerSDR software to run on my Vista 64 bit O/S :-( On the other hand, the SDR-IQ works great with the Vista 64 computer. I watch the spectrum with Linrad for Windows, which is most certainly NOT AT ALL user friendly, but is probably the most sensitive, flexible and powerful software program for use with the SDR-IQ. I have not tried the SDR-IQ powered out of the K3 IF port yet, since I like being able to read the frequency off the screen....if I change the dial on the K3 and use the IF out as input to the SDR-IQ, I would never be sure of the frequency of the signals shown on the Linrad waterfall. I originally got the SDR-IQ 1.5 years ago to be able to use it as an indicator to watch for 6m band openings (I use it with a 6 to 10 m Hamtronics converter ahead of it), and for that it has been outstanding! Of course, it has really powerful wide band IF noise blanking capabilities too, as well as a small window to adjust filtering on any individual station if you want to use it as a receiver. More information on the Linrad for Windows is here: http://www.sm5bsz.com/linuxdsp/usage/newco/newcomer.htm GL and VY 73, Lance -- Lance Collister, W7GJ (ex: WN3GPL, WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8) P.O. Box 73 Frenchtown, MT 59834 USA QTH: DN27UB TEL: (406) 626-5728 URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj 2m DXCC #11, 6m DXCC #815 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Erik (and Julian)
I'm posting only on Nabble as the Mailman Reflector seems to be broken at my end today... I was looking for a low cost panadapter for my K3 and kept finding issues, there was the IF leakage/spurious injection issue, "low sensitivity" when using the K3 IF out, "my soundcard isn't good enough" so I might need an outboard soundcard, will 192 KHz span be enough? And so I kept having doubts. A friend recently bought a Perseus that he found outperformed his TS480. The Perseus at that time covered an 800 KHz span and was a direct connection to USB2 and was available for next day delivery from a UK source... Span is now up to 1600 KHz. Having a high specification panoramic receiver has been an eye opener for me, maybe next weekend the CQ WW CW contest will cause the Perseus to struggle compared to the K3 but we will see, it's certainly holding it's own so far. The screen resolution is good enough to "click and go" on pretty much all CW and SSB signals at 100 KHz resolution without needing fine tuning, wider spans usually need a tweak but this could easily improve if/when the screen display is increased in size from it's present 1024 pixels wide. I don't connect my Perseus to the K3 IF, it connects in parallel via a ferrite splitter using the RX RF IN/OUT sockets on the KXV3. For my money the Perseus makes a good 2nd receiver, certainly it compares favourably on cost against the K3 second receiver (with a 2.8 KHz and 400 Hz filter installed) when you include shipping and tax. I haven't used any of the low cost alternatives, but the Perseus certainly impresses me. 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 --------------------------
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Hi Dave,
The Perseus certainly seems impressive. As a second
receiver it would cost only $151 more than the KRX3, if the latter is stuffed
with all the filters I have now added to my K3. I will be very
interested in your experience with it in the CQ WW CW. Please report the average
and peak number of strength of the strongest signals at your location, across
the whole HF spectrum, if that is practical.
When you say "click and go" I assume the Perseus
software is tuning the K3. Are you saying that *no* adjustment is needed to get
the right pitch for SSB or CW?
I have the kits for SoftRock Lite and the isolation
amplifier sitting here, just waiting to be put together, so I will definitely
give that a go first. I too don't much like the idea of getting an outboard
soundcard, so if the soundcard is the weakest link (in desktop and/or laptop) I
don't know if I will take that step or go to something not requiring a
soundcard. There is no doubt that a receiver for the full HF range is worth more
than just a panadapter. One slight count against the Perseus might be that it
requires a power connection. Is it tolerant enough as to voltages to be run from
either the typical home station 13.8V supply, or a car battery being discharged
to 11 V or so?
73,
Erik K7TV
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Erik
I'll see what next weekend brings, we also have strong broadcast stations to contend with on 40m. The "click and go" means clicking on a signal on the spectrum display on Perseus and not having to fine tune. I can have the K3 lock to the Perseus, or vice versa, via Ham Radio Deluxe. Open two sessions of HRD, one for K3 the other for Perseus, click on the "sync" button and lock the two together. Perseus needs a virtual serial port courtesy of com0com (freeware program). Power wise, Perseus needs 5 Volts at 1 Amp. There's a review of Perseus in Dec 2008 QST and also from the Members area of the ARRL web site. 73 Dave
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Eric,
The expensive soundcard is not required to use the K3 IF output effectively. Yes, the better soundcards will allow you to display 192 kHz of the band centered on the K3 frequency, but how often is that needed? If you can answer "rarely or never", then you can use one of the lesser capability soundcards to display 80 kHz or so. The Soundblaster Live card is still available at a reasonable price and has a 24 bit ADC with a reasonable noise floor, so the dynamic range should be adequate. The real answer depends on your wants and needs - if you want to display the maximum slice of the spectrum, then go with the best available, but if your budget must be minded, then there are other alternatives. Actually, any soundcard will work - the question is just how much dynamic range will you have and how wide a swath of the spectrum will you be able to display. You may want to look at the Softrock reflector (a Yahoo group) for additional information - but there are a lot of advocates there who strive for the best of the best. 73, Don W3FPR K7TV wrote: > I have the kits for SoftRock Lite and the isolation amplifier sitting here, just waiting to be put together, so I will definitely give that a go first. I too don't much like the idea of getting an outboard soundcard, so if the soundcard is the weakest link (in desktop and/or laptop) I don't know if I will take that step or go to something not requiring a soundcard. There is no doubt that a receiver for the full HF range is worth more than just a panadapter. One slight count against the Perseus might be that it requires a power connection. Is it tolerant enough as to voltages to be run from either the typical home station 13.8V supply, or a car battery being discharged to 11 V or so? > > 73, > Erik K7TV > > _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Thanks, Don for your thoughts.
I am familiar with the relationship between sound card sampling frequency and achievable spectrum width, and also with the SoftRock Yahoo group, athough it has been a while since I have been there. Sound card choice is complicated by the fact that the K3 invites portable operation; if I take a sound card dependent approach, I would want it to work with both desktop and laptop (as the non-soundcard solutions already do). The desktop currently has a Sound Blaster XFi Xtreme Audio, with 24 bit sampling at 96 kHz. This may be good enough for me for use at home. I have no spec's for the laptop's built-in sound card, but suspect it won't sample above 48 kHz. I know that it is susceptible to hash on the audio input when operated with its mains power supply operated from a power inverter in the field. A PCMCIA card might upgrade the laptop to be on par with the desktop without an extra box, but it seems the PCMCIA standard is considered obsolete. I found a PCMCIA audio card with good specs that has been recommended on the SoftRock group. That card is available used. However, I found a web site that states that it won't work with one of the chips in my laptop (and a lot of other laptops). The Soundblaster Live is a new one to me. There seems to exist an outboard box version of it, which may be attractive for the laptop (except an external box is per se unattractive). Whether I add an external or PCMCIA card, it seems that I would have to plunk down the money first and then find out if it is any better than the laptop's built-in audio w.r.t. the power supply hash. Maybe I should just build a filter for the laptop power supply first. On the other hand the SDR's that don't need any sound card would avoid that whole hassle (assuming they don't have a problem working with laptop with some hash on the DC supply). It is one thing to choose one path to achieve a single goal. It is another thing to plan for multiple goals. I would like to be able to have the spectral display run simultaneously with digital mode software. "Why do you want that", someone objects, "when you already have the waterfall in the digital mode software?" I know that, unless operating conditions are very benign, I get better digital copy with a narrow filter setting that means no other signals than the currently worked station is visible on the waterfall. The panoramic display should still be functional under those conditions. I know many people love the panoramic aspect of digital mode software because it offers so much for so little, but that very fact tends to lead to distorted priorities (I am sticking out my neck here!) such as "everyone has to run low power and be close to everyone's noise level, so that noone's agc affects the noone's wanted signal". No such need once people have real panoramic reception with the corresponding frequency resolution (and click to tune), and then IF filters can be kept narrow all the time. (This is also a virtue of the K3's built-in PSK and RTTY encode/decode, although I don't find it useful until PC software supports it so that one can send from the keyboard and see more than a few received characters.) OK I just went off on a tangent. Now back to the subject. An external soundcard in combination with the laptop's built-in audio would let me operate both digital and panadapter at the same time, albeit at least one of the two would have substandard audio with power hash problems. Suppose the external soundcard fixes the power hash problem. (I think this to be likely; after all the makers of these high performance audio solutions probably wouldn't want user complaints due to DC supply hash.) Then I'd want two external sound cards if one is needed for panoramic reception. It might be more prudent to spread the technology evolution risks by only getting one of these, plus an SDR that doesn't need a sound card. Ultimately though, I believe that today's hardware seldom breaks, but is very often made obsolete by changes in software. (That is one reason I am happy that my radio is able to function without a computer!). In the absence of software-free panoramic adapters for the K3, we obviously have to accept using computer software. Digital modes also require the computer with only a few minor exceptions. For contest use we may require the computer for logging. Then we have several pieces of software sharing one display (at least in portable operation, multiple monitors may be impractical; I do have two monitors on my home computer next to the radios). If each program displays a large and complex window, it is going to be hard to place the windows so that they don't interfere with one another. Thus I am back to the following order of priorities: 1. What are the characteristics of the candidate software packages, and 2. What hardware is supported by the best software combination. 73, Erik K7TV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]> To: "K7TV" <[hidden email]> Cc: <[hidden email]> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 panadapter choices > Eric, > > The expensive soundcard is not required to use the K3 IF output > effectively. Yes, the better soundcards will allow you to display 192 kHz > of the band centered on the K3 frequency, but how often is that needed? > If you can answer "rarely or never", then you can use one of the lesser > capability soundcards to display 80 kHz or so. The Soundblaster Live card > is still available at a reasonable price and has a 24 bit ADC with a > reasonable noise floor, so the dynamic range should be adequate. > > The real answer depends on your wants and needs - if you want to display > the maximum slice of the spectrum, then go with the best available, but if > your budget must be minded, then there are other alternatives. > > Actually, any soundcard will work - the question is just how much dynamic > range will you have and how wide a swath of the spectrum will you be able > to display. You may want to look at the Softrock reflector (a Yahoo > group) for additional information - but there are a lot of advocates there > who strive for the best of the best. > > 73, > Don W3FPR _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. 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> ...I have no spec's for the laptop's built-in sound card, but
> suspect it won't sample above 48 kHz. Most laptops do not include a stereo LINE IN jack, only a monophonic MIC jack. An I/Q based panadaptor (Softrock, LP-PAN) requires a stereo input. 73, Lyle KK7P _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Erik,
Most laptop built-in sound cards won't work for SDR because they only have mono (microphone) input. SDR requires a stereo (line) input. That said, I have found that a USB sound dongle such as the SoundBlaster Live! 24 USB or the Sound Blaster X-Fi Extreme USB work just fine with my laptop. 73, Jim - W4BQP K2/100 #2268 Erik N Basilier wrote: <snip> > I have no spec's for the laptop's built-in sound card, but suspect it > won't sample above 48 kHz. I know that it is susceptible to hash on > the audio input when operated with its mains power supply operated > from a power inverter in the field. <snip> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Thanks, Lyle.
> Most laptops do not include a stereo LINE IN jack, only a monophonic MIC > jack. An I/Q based panadaptor (Softrock, LP-PAN) requires a stereo input. Yes, I know that, but forgot to mention it, and yes, mine is only mono. Maybe you have looked at all the software packages involved? Can you say if any excel by getting point-and-click tuning right by taking K3 mode into account? Any that don't occupy an excessive part of the display? Which hardware is supported by source with publicly available source code? 73, Erik K7TV _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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The LP-PAN system automatically takes into account all offset info from K3, including mode, 5-pole filter offsets, DSP control offsets, etc. It also supports one button band and mode switching of the K3 and in-band dual receive using the sub-receiver in PowerSDR. In addition, I am finishing up support for many other functions in PowerSDR (automatic preamp/attenuator scaling, SPLIT mode, graphical DSP filter width / shift and VFO B linking to the K3 for the PowerSDR sub-receiver).
The main software is an open source sub-version of FlexRadio's PowerSDR, spearheaded by WU2X, which is being updated to include resizing, panafall, getting rid of unneeded Flex controls, etc. The "glue" that ties all this together is LP-Bridge (free, but not open source), which in addition to linking the K3 to PowerSDR provides virtual ports to simultaneously share the K3 with loggers, CW Skimmer, PSK apps, etc. Plus it provides support for real serial ports to feed data to SteppIRs, antenna tuners, band decoders, etc. 73, Larry N8LP
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Julian, G4ILO wrote:
> transceiver. An SDR is basically not a lot different from a direct ...can be not a lot different from... > conversion receiver which QRPers habitually knock up in an hour or two using > parts from their junk box. The computer sound card and software does most of It can also be a very sophisticated device, just as a pure analogue design can vary between the simple, direct conversion, DSB design to a top of the range multi-conversion design. The K3 is an SDR at the more sophisticated end. Most professional and semi-professional receivers are SDRs these days. I think it is only really the RSGB that defines SDRs as ones which use a general purpose computer for the A/D conversion and signal processing. From what I've read here, the ARRL are more inline with professional use. Because it is sharing hardware with the main receiver, a pan adaptor can be towards the low end, but it can't be at the bottom end, because it has requirements that it minimise disturbance to its host. One also gets examples of hardware sharing in purely analogue add-ons, e.g. an FM adaptor is basically a cut down FM receiver. -- David Woolley "The Elecraft list is a forum for the discussion of topics related to Elecraft products and more general topics related ham radio" List Guidelines <http://www.elecraft.com/elecraft_list_guidelines.htm> _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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>From the K3 faq
>Elecraft plans to offer a matching bandscope accessory after the K3 is out I'm aware of L-Pan, SDR-IQ, Softrock, Perseus, Mercury, QS1R etc but wondered if a dedicated "Elecraft" K3 panadaptor is still on the development schedule or has this been dropped in favour of the 3rd party offerings. 73 to all Trevor G0KTN _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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> I'm aware of L-Pan, SDR-IQ, Softrock, Perseus, Mercury, QS1R etc but
> wondered if a dedicated "Elecraft" K3 panadaptor is > still on the development schedule or has this been dropped > in favour of the 3rd party offerings. I would hope that it has not been dropped, if for no other reason, because I assume it would communicate most efficiently with the K3 using Elecraft's internal bus. Of course there are also other offerings in the pipeline, so it is hard to say what the Elecraft roadmap may look like. I have bought a QS1R, which I, among other things, plan on using as a panadapter with my K3 until Elecraft releases their own. It should be possible to do most of what Elecraft might do internally, with the RS-232 serial port. What might be tricky is sharing the serial port with logging software such as WinTest, but on the other hand, I do hope to integrate WinTest band map information in the "live" spectrum display. It would be cool if Elecraft's panadapter implements this kind interoperation with logging software and/or DX-Clusters. Happy New Year de toby -- DD5FZ K2, #885, K2/100 #3248, K3/100 #67 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Trevor wrote:
> ... wondered if a dedicated "Elecraft" K3 panadaptor is still on the > development schedule. Yes, definitely, unequivocally. (To use the vernacular: youbetcha :) I can't give you any timetable, and I can't reveal any details yet, but it will be highly integrated with the K3, and will look dynamite sitting next to it. We'll be using the more common spelling: panadapter. 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Wayne:
Thanks for the news. I am interested. I only connect my K3 to the computer for updates. I hope your panadaptor does not need a computer connection. Thanks, 73, Ty, W1TF, K3 #696 --- On Mon, 12/29/08, wayne burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > From: wayne burdick <[hidden email]> > Subject: [Elecraft] Re: K3 Panadaptor/Bandscope > To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]> > Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 12:30 PM > Trevor wrote: > > > ... wondered if a dedicated "Elecraft" K3 > panadaptor is still on the development schedule. > > Yes, definitely, unequivocally. (To use the vernacular: > youbetcha :) I can't give you any timetable, and I > can't reveal any details yet, but it will be highly > integrated with the K3, and will look dynamite sitting next > to it. > > We'll be using the more common spelling: panadapter. > > 73, > Wayne > N6KR _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Ralph Tyrrell wrote:
> I hope your panadaptor does not need a computer connection. It will work either way. 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Wayne
Can I jump in "first" and ask if there are other K3 related products in the pipeline, and if you have timescales for them? Like many, I have bought a pair of small bookshelf speakers and they work fine with the K3. I also bought a Perseus SDR which I use as both a second receiver and panadaptor. If I had known a definite product was planned for a panadapter, I like perhaps others, would probably have waited for the Elecraft product. By keeping us in the dark I am sure your sales will suffer! Proper adjustable feet for the K3 would be nice a nice addition instead of the bale arm - it's not a low cost transceiver... 73 Dave, G4AON K3/100 #80 >/ ... wondered if a dedicated "Elecraft" K3 panadaptor is still on the />/ development schedule. / Yes, definitely, unequivocally. (To use the vernacular: youbetcha :) I can't give you any timetable, and I can't reveal any details yet, but it will be highly integrated with the K3, and will look dynamite sitting next to it. We'll be using the more common spelling: panadapter. 73, Wayne _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Ha, And who says there is no Santa Claus? He's only 4 days late!
Hmm. Maybe an anniversary gift from K8AJ? Thanks for the note Wayne! Tom K8TB >wayne burdick wrote: >Yes, definitely, unequivocally. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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