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Hi All,
Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what seems to be a direct competitor to the KPA-500? Reading the blurb it seems like they are jumping on the bandwagon for portable amplifiers BUT the price is just a bit worrisome? Aaaah competition seems alive and well..:-) 73's Gary -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Gary,
"Jumping on the bandwagon"? THP has been driving that "bandwagon" for about 4 years with the previous model - the HL-1.1KFX. The new one, the HL-550FX simply adds 6m to the previous model. I would wager that THP is not aware of the developments at Elecraft. In fact, the HL550FX was envisioned/planned long before Elecraft first announced the KPA-500. 73, Bob W5OV -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Gary Gregory Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 3:52 AM To: [hidden email] Subject: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP Hi All, Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what seems to be a direct competitor to the KPA-500? Reading the blurb it seems like they are jumping on the bandwagon for portable amplifiers BUT the price is just a bit worrisome? Aaaah competition seems alive and well..:-) 73's Gary -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The THP '550 is $2950 USD and is available now. How much is the KPA-500 and when can I buy one?
N7WS --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Gary Gregory <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what > seems to be a > direct competitor to the KPA-500? > > Reading the blurb it seems like they are jumping on the > bandwagon for > portable amplifiers BUT the price is just a bit worrisome? > > Aaaah competition seems alive and well..:-) > > 73's > Gary ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The KPA500 will be far less expensive than the new THP amp.
We'll have more to say on this soon, now that the KPA500 field test is in full swing. 73, Wayne N6KR On Jan 24, 2011, at 1:51 AM, Gary Gregory wrote: > Hi All, > > Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what seems to be a > direct competitor to the KPA-500? ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't set
the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. We're in field test right now. Stay tuned! 73, Eric ---- On 1/24/2011 6:23 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: > The THP '550 is $2950 USD and is available now. How much is the KPA-500 and when can I buy one? > > N7WS > > --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Gary Gregory<[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what >> seems to be a >> direct competitor to the KPA-500? >> >> Reading the blurb it seems like they are jumping on the >> bandwagon for >> portable amplifiers BUT the price is just a bit worrisome? >> >> Aaaah competition seems alive and well..:-) >> >> 73's >> Gary > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I remain interested in knowing if the KPA-500 will handle QSK with the K3 in CW+ mode at 65 wpm, and if it uses PIN diode switching for QSK.
Chuck, W5UXH
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The KPA500 will do full QSK at over 80 WPM with the K3 in QRQ mode.
Yes, it uses PIN-diode T/R switching. Wayne N6KR On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:54 AM, W5UXH wrote: > > I remain interested in knowing if the KPA-500 will handle QSK with > the K3 in > CW+ mode at 65 wpm, and if it uses PIN diode switching for QSK. > > Chuck, W5UXH > > > > > Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: >> >> Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't >> set >> the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. >> We're in field test right now. >> >> Stay tuned! >> >> 73, Eric >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA-500-vs-THP-tp5954668p5955986.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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And have been told the KPA-500 capable of 500w RTTY.
I dont have choice I need one. Dreaming of my next RSGB IOTA expedition on NA-128 73 de Claude VE2FK From: Wayne Burdick Sent: Monday, January 24, 2011 1:04 PM To: W5UXH Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP The KPA500 will do full QSK at over 80 WPM with the K3 in QRQ mode. Yes, it uses PIN-diode T/R switching. Wayne N6KR On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:54 AM, W5UXH wrote: > > I remain interested in knowing if the KPA-500 will handle QSK with > the K3 in > CW+ mode at 65 wpm, and if it uses PIN diode switching for QSK. > > Chuck, W5UXH > > > > > Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: >> >> Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't >> set >> the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. >> We're in field test right now. >> >> Stay tuned! >> >> 73, Eric >> >> > > -- > View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA-500-vs-THP-tp5954668p5955986.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ----- Aucun virus trouve dans ce message. Analyse effectuee par AVG - www.avg.fr Version: 10.0.1202 / Base de donnees virale: 1435/3399 - Date: 23/01/2011 ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I'm more interested in how the KPA 500 handles a full blown 48hr CW contest with full QSK.
What connections are on the rear panel, etc. I just hope someone from the contesting brotherhood has it and given it a really good workout!! Ken..G0ORH k2, K3, P3 Sent from my iPhone On 24 Jan 2011, at 18:04, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > The KPA500 will do full QSK at over 80 WPM with the K3 in QRQ mode. > > Yes, it uses PIN-diode T/R switching. > > Wayne > N6KR > > On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:54 AM, W5UXH wrote: > >> >> I remain interested in knowing if the KPA-500 will handle QSK with >> the K3 in >> CW+ mode at 65 wpm, and if it uses PIN diode switching for QSK. >> >> Chuck, W5UXH >> >> >> >> >> Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: >>> >>> Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't >>> set >>> the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. >>> We're in field test right now. >>> >>> Stay tuned! >>> >>> 73, Eric >>> >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA-500-vs-THP-tp5954668p5955986.html >> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Well I am a bit surprised at some comments. I guess my thoughts on the 'closeness' of the THP caused some angst with some. The kit version of the KPA-500 is my choice. My 'shack' (read desk) is a THP Free Zone...:-) 73's Gary On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Ken Chandler <[hidden email]> wrote: > I'm more interested in how the KPA 500 handles a full blown 48hr CW contest with full QSK. > What connections are on > the rear panel, etc. > I just hope someone from the contesting brotherhood has it and given it a really good workout!! > > > Ken..G0ORH k2, K3, P3 > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On 24 Jan 2011, at 18:04, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> The KPA500 will do full QSK at over 80 WPM with the K3 in QRQ mode. >> >> Yes, it uses PIN-diode T/R switching. >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> >> On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:54 AM, W5UXH wrote: >> >>> >>> I remain interested in knowing if the KPA-500 will handle QSK with >>> the K3 in >>> CW+ mode at 65 wpm, and if it uses PIN diode switching for QSK. >>> >>> Chuck, W5UXH >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: >>>> >>>> Way less than that for both the kit and build versions. We haven't >>>> set >>>> the final price yet, but the kit version should come in about $1995. >>>> We're in field test right now. >>>> >>>> Stay tuned! >>>> >>>> 73, Eric >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KPA-500-vs-THP-tp5954668p5955986.html >>> Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile http://www.qsl.net/vk4fd/ K3 #679 For everything else there's Mastercard!!! ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hello Wes,
THP is expensive. SPE Expert 1Ka is selling at US$3,870 here but with built in ATU and more power. I will wait for KPA500 + KAT500. cheers, Johnny VR2XMC ________________________________ 寄件人﹕ Wes Stewart <[hidden email]> 收件人﹕ [hidden email] 傳送日期﹕ 2011/1/24 (一) 10:23:00 PM 主題： Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP The THP '550 is $2950 USD and is available now. How much is the KPA-500 and when can I buy one? N7WS --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Gary Gregory <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi All, > > Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what > seems to be a > direct competitor to the KPA-500? > > Reading the blurb it seems like they are jumping on the > bandwagon for > portable amplifiers BUT the price is just a bit worrisome? > > Aaaah competition seems alive and well..:-) > > 73's > Gary ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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On 1/24/2011 10:31 AM, Ken Chandler wrote:
> I'm more interested in how the KPA 500 handles a full blown 48hr CW contest with full QSK. > What connections are on > the rear panel, etc. > I just hope someone from the contesting brotherhood has it and given it a really good workout!! Contesters have always been part of Elecraft's beta test program, including several who won spots to represent the US in Russia last July. Several of them are my close neighbors. So yes, the KPA500 is getting a VERY serious workout in serious contest stations. 73, Jim K9YC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Of course, this little exercise (below) is not exactly comparing apples to apples but it is a rough idea of relative cost per watt:
THP Amplifiers: HL-1.2KFX 750 watt $2600 $3.47 per watt HL-1.5KFX 1000 watt $3500 $3.50 per watt HL-2.5KFX 1500 watt $6000 $4.00 per watt HL-550FX 550 watt $2950 $5.37 per watt ICOM Amplifier: IC-PW1 1000 watt $4600 (price I paid 4 years ago) $4.60 per watt Elecraft KPA500: KPA500 500 watt $2000 $4.00 per watt The THP prices are from HRO web site, the Icom price is what I paid retail from HRO, and the Elecraft is recently quoted here by Eric (I think). I know that these are not all exactly the same kind of configuration but it gives you an idea where things set. Elecraft is not the cheapest and it is not the most expensive -- sort of right in the middle. 73, phil, K7PEH On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Johnny Siu wrote: > Hello Wes, > > THP is expensive. SPE Expert 1Ka is selling at US$3,870 here but with built in > ATU and more power. I will wait for KPA500 + KAT500. > cheers, > > > Johnny VR2XMC > > > > > ________________________________ > 寄件人﹕ Wes Stewart <[hidden email]> > 收件人﹕ [hidden email] > 傳送日期﹕ 2011/1/24 (一) 10:23:00 PM > 主題： Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP > > The THP '550 is $2950 USD and is available now. How much is the KPA-500 and when > can I buy one? > > N7WS > > --- On Mon, 1/24/11, Gary Gregory <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> Has anyone noticed Tokyo High Price have announced what >> seems to be a >> direct competitor to the KPA-500? >> >> Reading the blurb it seems like they are jumping on the >> bandwagon for >> portable amplifiers BUT the price is just a bit worrisome? >> >> Aaaah competition seems alive and well..:-) >> >> 73's >> Gary > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Hello Phil,
Yes, good exercise. Except ICPW1, all the prices are WITHOUT antenna tuning unit. Based on that, the price per watt for SPE is say $3.9 per watt but with built-in ATU. THP will be sure out of my consideration. cheers, Johnny VR2XMC ________________________________ 寄件人﹕ Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> 收件人﹕ Johnny Siu <[hidden email]> 副本(CC) Wes Stewart <[hidden email]>; Elecraft <[hidden email]> 傳送日期﹕ 2011/1/25 (二) 10:52:46 AM 主題： Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP Of course, this little exercise (below) is not exactly comparing apples to apples but it is a rough idea of relative cost per watt: THP Amplifiers: HL-1.2KFX 750 watt $2600 $3.47 per watt HL-1.5KFX 1000 watt $3500 $3.50 per watt HL-2.5KFX 1500 watt $6000 $4.00 per watt HL-550FX 550 watt $2950 $5.37 per watt ICOM Amplifier: IC-PW1 1000 watt $4600 (price I paid 4 years ago) $4.60 per watt Elecraft KPA500: KPA500 500 watt $2000 $4.00 per watt The THP prices are from HRO web site, the Icom price is what I paid retail from HRO, and the Elecraft is recently quoted here by Eric (I think). I know that these are not all exactly the same kind of configuration but it gives you an idea where things set. Elecraft is not the cheapest and it is not the most expensive -- sort of right in the middle. 73, phil, K7PEH On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Johnny Siu wrote: > Hello Wes, > > THP is expensive. SPE Expert 1Ka is selling at US$3,870 here but with built in > ATU and more power. I will wait for KPA500 + KAT500. > cheers, > > > Johnny VR2XMC ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The PW-1 antenna tuner is only 3:1 wide so it is not a full function antenna tuner. Indeed, I use that in concert with a Palstar AT1KM antenna tuner for my horizontal delta loop (all bands). I don't include the AT1KM when I am operating with the Hexbeam antenna as that is 1.5:1 or better on all bands.
From what I heard about the future Elecraft tuner, it should be wider then the PW-1 minuscule 3:1. phil, K7PEH On Jan 24, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Johnny Siu wrote: > Hello Phil, > > Yes, good exercise. Except ICPW1, all the prices are WITHOUT antenna tuning unit. > > Based on that, the price per watt for SPE is say $3.9 per watt but with built-in ATU. THP will be sure out of my consideration. > > > > cheers, > > > Johnny VR2XMC > > > 寄件人﹕ Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> > 收件人﹕ Johnny Siu <[hidden email]> > 副本(CC) Wes Stewart <[hidden email]>; Elecraft <[hidden email]> > 傳送日期﹕ 2011/1/25 (二) 10:52:46 AM > 主題： Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP > > Of course, this little exercise (below) is not exactly comparing apples to apples but it is a rough idea of relative cost per watt: > > THP Amplifiers: HL-1.2KFX 750 watt $2600 $3.47 per watt > HL-1.5KFX 1000 watt $3500 $3.50 per watt > HL-2.5KFX 1500 watt $6000 $4.00 per watt > HL-550FX 550 watt $2950 $5.37 per watt > > ICOM Amplifier: IC-PW1 1000 watt $4600 (price I paid 4 years ago) $4.60 per watt > > Elecraft KPA500: KPA500 500 watt $2000 $4.00 per watt > > > The THP prices are from HRO web site, the Icom price is what I paid retail from HRO, and the Elecraft is recently quoted here by Eric (I think). I know that these are not all exactly the same kind of configuration but it gives > you an idea where things set. Elecraft is not the cheapest and it is not the most expensive -- sort of right in > the middle. > > 73, phil, K7PEH > > > On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Johnny Siu wrote: > > > Hello Wes, > > > > THP is expensive. SPE Expert 1Ka is selling at US$3,870 here but with built in > > ATU and more power. I will wait for KPA500 + KAT500. > > cheers, > > > > > > Johnny VR2XMC > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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The KAT500 is being designed to match 10:1 at 500 W.
73, Wayne N6KR On Jan 24, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Phil Hystad wrote: > The PW-1 antenna tuner is only 3:1 wide so it is not a full function > antenna tuner. Indeed, I use that in concert with a Palstar AT1KM > antenna tuner for my horizontal delta loop (all bands). I don't > include the AT1KM when I am operating with the Hexbeam antenna as > that is 1.5:1 or better on all bands. > > From what I heard about the future Elecraft tuner, it should be > wider then the PW-1 minuscule 3:1. > > phil, K7PEH > > > On Jan 24, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Johnny Siu wrote: > >> Hello Phil, >> >> Yes, good exercise. Except ICPW1, all the prices are WITHOUT >> antenna tuning unit. >> >> Based on that, the price per watt for SPE is say $3.9 per watt but >> with built-in ATU. THP will be sure out of my consideration. >> >> >> >> cheers, >> >> >> Johnny VR2XMC >> >> >> 寄件人﹕ Phil Hystad <[hidden email]> >> 收件人﹕ Johnny Siu <[hidden email]> >> 副本(CC) Wes Stewart <[hidden email]>; Elecraft <[hidden email] >> .net> >> 傳送日期﹕ 2011/1/25 (二) 10:52:46 AM >> 主題： Re: [Elecraft] KPA-500 vs THP >> >> Of course, this little exercise (below) is not exactly comparing >> apples to apples but it is a rough idea of relative cost per watt: >> >> THP Amplifiers: HL-1.2KFX 750 watt $2600 $3.47 >> per watt >> HL-1.5KFX 1000 watt $3500 >> $3.50 per watt >> HL-2.5KFX 1500 watt $6000 >> $4.00 per watt >> HL-550FX 550 watt $2950 >> $5.37 per watt >> >> ICOM Amplifier: IC-PW1 1000 watt $4600 (price I >> paid 4 years ago) $4.60 per watt >> >> Elecraft KPA500: KPA500 500 watt $2000 $4.00 >> per watt >> >> >> The THP prices are from HRO web site, the Icom price is what I paid >> retail from HRO, and the Elecraft is recently quoted here by Eric >> (I think). I know that these are not all exactly the same kind of >> configuration but it gives >> you an idea where things set. Elecraft is not the cheapest and it >> is not the most expensive -- sort of right in >> the middle. >> >> 73, phil, K7PEH >> >> >> On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Johnny Siu wrote: >> >>> Hello Wes, >>> >>> THP is expensive. SPE Expert 1Ka is selling at US$3,870 here but >>> with built in >>> ATU and more power. I will wait for KPA500 + KAT500. >>> cheers, >>> >>> >>> Johnny VR2XMC >> >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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Phil Hystad wrote:
> Elecraft is not the cheapest and it is not the most expensive -- > sort of right in the middle. But you'll get a lot for your $4/watt: - virtually instant band change via RF sensing (or remote control, or per-band front panel switches) - one of the most efficient broadband solid state amplifiers available, including in terms of RF output watts per AC line input watts - extremely quiet operation (fans will be off most of the time during normal operation, but are capable of tremendous cooling power when you need it) - silent, diode-switched QSK CW beyond 80WPM -- a great match for the K3's "QRQ" mode - no tendency to fault off line when overstressed; the amp will drop a couple of dB when faced with potentially dangerous operating conditions, but will keep going. If the fault clears, it will automatically go back to full power (the amp will of course protect itself from damage from critical faults). - comprehensive monitoring of all input and output conditions Last but not least, it'll look *great* sitting next to your K3 and P3 :) 73, Wayne N6KR ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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I think Elecraft under-sells the "system" notion of their products.
Certainly, the K3, P3, KPA500, and KAT500 will work fine as stand-alone products, but where I suspect they all will really shine is as a modular, but tightly integrated, system. The K3 product line looks like it will soon allow for a smooth, user selectable, upgrade path from a competitively priced entry model K3/10 to a seriously tricked out station with all the bells and whistles when all the parts are from the "K3 system". The expedition friendliness of all the components is an added bonus. To me, as a systems engineer myself, I consider this a competitive advantage. It both needs to be advertised more, and maintained as a focus of future development. 73, Byron N6NUL On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > Phil Hystad wrote: > > But you'll get a lot for your $4/watt: > Last but not least, it'll look *great* sitting next to your K3 and P3 :) ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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This will be an unbeatable combination. Nothing else on the market will
do so much for such a reasonable price with an option to do some of the assembly - or not. Elecraft has challenged the big three to the point of forcing changes in their marketing strategies and product lines. Even TenTec had to do something. With year after year of more of the same from the same old, same old, Elecraft has shaken everything up with outstanding performance, feature richness and moderate and reasonable prices. And for certain Wayne and Eric's skills have not peaked. There are still many more years for growth and innovation. I still think the K4 is possible. Perhaps years from now, but possible. And, hopefully, a K1.5 - a 2 to 4 band K1-sized sideband, cw and digital modes transceiver with 10 watts out (OK, I can live with 5). 73, Doug -- K0DXV On 1/24/2011 10:20 PM, Byron Servies wrote: > I think Elecraft under-sells the "system" notion of their products. > Certainly, the K3, P3, KPA500, and KAT500 will work fine as > stand-alone products, but where I suspect they all will really shine > is as a modular, but tightly integrated, system. > > The K3 product line looks like it will soon allow for a smooth, user > selectable, upgrade path from a competitively priced entry model K3/10 > to a seriously tricked out station with all the bells and whistles > when all the parts are from the "K3 system". The expedition > friendliness of all the components is an added bonus. > > To me, as a systems engineer myself, I consider this a competitive > advantage. It both needs to be advertised more, and maintained as a > focus of future development. > > 73, Byron N6NUL > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Wayne Burdick<[hidden email]> wrote: >> Phil Hystad wrote: >> >> But you'll get a lot for your $4/watt: >> Last but not least, it'll look *great* sitting next to your K3 and P3 :) > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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In reply to this post by Byron N6NUL
Agreed, I'm a relatively new HAM and really like the integrated approach to the modular components of the Elecraft "system". Currently have a moderately configured K3 & P3... saving up for the new amp and tuner. Really like being able to add high quality component, as needed, to my k3 system that make the "old timers" drool with envy. :)
Solus Veritas, Darin Sent from mobile phone. On Jan 24, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Byron Servies <[hidden email]> wrote: > I think Elecraft under-sells the "system" notion of their products. > Certainly, the K3, P3, KPA500, and KAT500 will work fine as > stand-alone products, but where I suspect they all will really shine > is as a modular, but tightly integrated, system. > > The K3 product line looks like it will soon allow for a smooth, user > selectable, upgrade path from a competitively priced entry model K3/10 > to a seriously tricked out station with all the bells and whistles > when all the parts are from the "K3 system". The expedition > friendliness of all the components is an added bonus. > > To me, as a systems engineer myself, I consider this a competitive > advantage. It both needs to be advertised more, and maintained as a > focus of future development. > > 73, Byron N6NUL > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 8:46 PM, Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Phil Hystad wrote: >> >> But you'll get a lot for your $4/watt: > >> Last but not least, it'll look *great* sitting next to your K3 and P3 :) > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html |
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