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Mooneer Salem

KX3 microphone nut size

Hi all,

Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
(I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
it.

Thanks,

-Mooneer K6AQ
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ke9uw

Re: KX3 microphone nut size

1/4"-20 I think

Chuck Hawley
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Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size

Hi all,

Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
(I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
it.

Thanks,

-Mooneer K6AQ
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Mooneer Salem

Re: KX3 microphone nut size

Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind
you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no
such luck.

Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was able
to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate it
past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and
potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able
to tighten it much further by hand, right?

-Mooneer K6AQ

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr <[hidden email]>
wrote:

> 1/4"-20 I think
>
> Chuck Hawley
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>
> Amateur Radio, KE9UW
> aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles
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> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM
> *To:* Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
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> *Subject:* [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size
>
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
> it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Mooneer K6AQ
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Rose

Re: KX3 microphone nut size

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Most likely they’re metric ....

73

K0PP

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020, 14:13 Mooneer Salem <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
> it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Mooneer K6AQ
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ke9uw

Re: KX3 microphone nut size

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Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch?

Chuck Jack Hawley
KE9UW

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> On Aug 28, 2020, at 3:35 PM, Mooneer Salem <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind
> you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no
> such luck.
>
> Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was able
> to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate it
> past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and
> potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able
> to tighten it much further by hand, right?
>
> -Mooneer K6AQ
>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 1/4"-20 I think
>>
>> Chuck Hawley
>> [hidden email]
>>
>> Amateur Radio, KE9UW
>> aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* [hidden email] <[hidden email]>
>> on behalf of Mooneer Salem <[hidden email]>
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM
>> *To:* Elecraft Reflector <[hidden email]>; [hidden email]
>> <[hidden email]>
>> *Subject:* [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
>> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
>> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
>> it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Mooneer K6AQ
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Phil Kane-2

Re: KX3 microphone nut size

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On 8/28/2020 1:34 PM, Mooneer Salem wrote:

> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind
> you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no
> such luck.

Sometimes the easiest fix is to buy another jack and just use the nut.
Then you will have a spare jack when the time comes to replace it. We
all learn the hard way sometimes (I plead guilty to that).

73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon
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Gary K9GS-2

Re: KX3 microphone nut size

Or pick up the phone and call Elecraft. See if they will tell you the nut size and thread.If you ask very nicely they would probably drop one in an envelope and send it to you.73,Gary K9GS
-------- Original message --------From: Phil Kane <[hidden email]> Date: 8/28/20 4:33 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size On 8/28/2020 1:34 PM, Mooneer Salem wrote:> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind> you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no> such luck.Sometimes the easiest fix is to buy another jack and just use the nut.Then you will have a spare jack when the time comes to replace it. Weall learn the hard way sometimes (I plead guilty to that).73 de K2ASP - Phil KaneElecraft K2/100 s/n 5402From a Clearing in the Silicon ForestBeaverton (Washington County) Oregon______________________________________________________________Elecraft mailing listHome: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraftHelp: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htmPost: mailto:[hidden email] list hosted by: http://www.qsl.netPlease help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.htmlMessage delivered to [hidden email]
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Nr4c

Re: KX3 microphone nut size

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You might try some Metric nuts. Like 6 mm.

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> On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:15 PM, Mooneer Salem <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
> it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Mooneer K6AQ
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Rich NE1EE

Re: [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size

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It is easy to cross thread nuts and screws this way. IME, machine threads...which is likely what you have here...either work or they don't. You should be able to get at least 2 clean, easy rotations. And that is for a nut that is going on a bolt/stud that will not stand proud of the nut when it is tight. That likely applies to many of the screws and nuts in the Elecraft equipment. Folks who "think" that they have a good match and that the nut just needs to be "tightened" wind up cross threading, and then you be lucky a) get the nut off, and b) get the correct one to fit. This works for all sizes...right up to, and past, engine block studs and nuts. (Experience.) Many are the times that I have wrapped my hand around a manifold, to a stud I can't see, and gently rotated the nut until I was sure that I had a proper fit.

Now...back to the KX3...this comes as a kit, yes? Then perhaps the kit manual calls out the nut size.

On 2020-08-28 13:34:-0700, Mooneer Salem wrote:

>Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no such luck.�
>
>Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was able to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate it past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able to tighten it much further by hand, right?
>
>-Mooneer K6AQ
>
>On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> wrote:
>1/4"-20� I think
>
>Chuck Hawley
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>�
>� Amateur Radio, KE9UW
>� aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles�
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>Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size
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>Hi all,
>
>Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
>(I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
>1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
>it.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-Mooneer K6AQ
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Re: [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size

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It's metric. If you need one, we'll send it at no charge. Please contact support.

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> On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Rich NE1EE <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> It is easy to cross thread nuts and screws this way. IME, machine threads...which is likely what you have here...either work or they don't. You should be able to get at least 2 clean, easy rotations. And that is for a nut that is going on a bolt/stud that will not stand proud of the nut when it is tight. That likely applies to many of the screws and nuts in the Elecraft equipment. Folks who "think" that they have a good match and that the nut just needs to be "tightened" wind up cross threading, and then you be lucky a) get the nut off, and b) get the correct one to fit. This works for all sizes...right up to, and past, engine block studs and nuts. (Experience.) Many are the times that I have wrapped my hand around a manifold, to a stud I can't see, and gently rotated the nut until I was sure that I had a proper fit.
>
> Now...back to the KX3...this comes as a kit, yes? Then perhaps the kit manual calls out the nut size.
>
> On 2020-08-28 13:34:-0700, Mooneer Salem wrote:
>> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no such luck.�
>>
>> Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was able to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate it past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able to tighten it much further by hand, right?
>>
>> -Mooneer K6AQ
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> wrote:
>> 1/4"-20� I think
>>
>> Chuck Hawley
>> � <mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]
>> �
>> � Amateur Radio, KE9UW
>> � aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles�
>>
>>
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>> From: <mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email] <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> on behalf of Mooneer Salem <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
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>> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size
>> �
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
>> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
>> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
>> it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Mooneer K6AQ
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Re: [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size

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https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cui-devices/SJ1-43502PM/CP-SJ1-43502PM-ND/5130707

It may not be correct, but IF sizes use "standard" nuts... M7x0.75 ?
someplace to start?

73, steve

On 8/28/20 7:24 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote:

> It is easy to cross thread nuts and screws this way. IME, machine threads...which is likely what you have here...either work or they don't. You should be able to get at least 2 clean, easy rotations. And that is for a nut that is going on a bolt/stud that will not stand proud of the nut when it is tight. That likely applies to many of the screws and nuts in the Elecraft equipment. Folks who "think" that they have a good match and that the nut just needs to be "tightened" wind up cross threading, and then you be lucky a) get the nut off, and b) get the correct one to fit. This works for all sizes...right up to, and past, engine block studs and nuts. (Experience.) Many are the times that I have wrapped my hand around a manifold, to a stud I can't see, and gently rotated the nut until I was sure that I had a proper fit.
>
> Now...back to the KX3...this comes as a kit, yes? Then perhaps the kit manual calls out the nut size.
>
> On 2020-08-28 13:34:-0700, Mooneer Salem wrote:
>> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no such luck.�
>>
>> Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was able to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate it past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able to tighten it much further by hand, right?
>>
>> -Mooneer K6AQ
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> wrote:
>> 1/4"-20� I think
>>
>> Chuck Hawley
>> � <mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]
>> �
>> � Amateur Radio, KE9UW
>> � aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles�
>>
>>
>> ----------
>> From: <mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email] <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> on behalf of Mooneer Salem <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM
>> To: Elecraft Reflector <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>; <mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email] <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
>> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size
>> �
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the KX3?
>> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to measure
>> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw into
>> it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Mooneer K6AQ
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VE3NR

Re: [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size

M7 is not really a standard size in every day mechanics. Rarely used.
Standard sizes are M3, M4, M5, M6, M8, M10, M12 and so on.

Bert VE3NR/SM7BUR

On 2020-08-28 19:47, stephen shearer wrote:

> https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/cui-devices/SJ1-43502PM/CP-SJ1-43502PM-ND/5130707
>
>
> It may not be correct, but IF sizes use "standard" nuts... M7x0.75 ?
> someplace to start?
>
> 73, steve
>
> On 8/28/20 7:24 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote:
>> It is easy to cross thread nuts and screws this way. IME, machine
>> threads...which is likely what you have here...either work or they
>> don't. You should be able to get at least 2 clean, easy rotations.
>> And that is for a nut that is going on a bolt/stud that will not
>> stand proud of the nut when it is tight. That likely applies to many
>> of the screws and nuts in the Elecraft equipment. Folks who "think"
>> that they have a good match and that the nut just needs to be
>> "tightened" wind up cross threading, and then you be lucky a) get the
>> nut off, and b) get the correct one to fit. This works for all
>> sizes...right up to, and past, engine block studs and nuts.
>> (Experience.) Many are the times that I have wrapped my hand around a
>> manifold, to a stud I can't see, and gently rotated the nut until I
>> was sure that I had a proper fit.
>>
>> Now...back to the KX3...this comes as a kit, yes? Then perhaps the
>> kit manual calls out the nut size.
>>
>> On 2020-08-28 13:34:-0700, Mooneer Salem wrote:
>>> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick
>>> mind you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are
>>> correct) and no such luck.�
>>>
>>> Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it
>>> was able to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I
>>> couldn't rotate it past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it
>>> with tools and potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct
>>> size, I'd have been able to tighten it much further by hand, right?
>>>
>>> -Mooneer K6AQ
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr
>>> <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> 1/4"-20� I think
>>>
>>> Chuck Hawley
>>> � <mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]
>>> �
>>> � Amateur Radio, KE9UW
>>> � aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles�
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> From:
>>> <mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]
>>> <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
>>> on behalf of Mooneer Salem
>>> <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2020 3:12 PM
>>> To: Elecraft Reflector
>>> <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>;
>>> <mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]
>>> <<mailto:[hidden email]>[hidden email]>
>>> Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 microphone nut size
>>> �
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on
>>> the KX3?
>>> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to
>>> measure
>>> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw
>>> into
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> -Mooneer K6AQ
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k6dgw

Re: [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size

Wayne answered this question folks, it's metric, call support and
they'll send you one [or 2, they're small]

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
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On 8/28/2020 4:53 PM, Bert wrote:
> M7 is not really a standard size in every day mechanics. Rarely used.
> Standard sizes are M3, M4, M5, M6, M8, M10, M12 and so on.
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Re: KX3 microphone nut size

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On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:

> Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch?

Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch.... :)

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Re: KX3 microphone nut size

Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of sense. When I got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few Craftsman metric tape measures on one of my trips to Canada...could not find one in the US at all.

Worth noting that while you can often swap sockets and wrenches twixt US and metric...there are many sizes that have close equivalents...the same does not hold true at all for nuts and screws that I have found. Might be some that are close, but I have not stumbled across them.

On 2020-08-28 17:48:-0700, Phil Kane wrote:
>On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
>
>> Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch?
>
>Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch.... :)
>
>73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Re: KX3 microphone nut size

In my teens, there was metric, confined to meters [or metres] used by
amateur radio operators, and all the rest: inches, feet, pounds,
gallons, quarts, cups, teaspoons, tablespoons, and the other plethora of
stupid measures I grew up with. We had 2x4's, which actually were not
2" x 4". We measured nails in pennies ... I'm sure there was a reason
... OK, not so sure, but that's how it was. Then, the US Military sent
me to the other side of the planet, and over time I began to think
metric. Meters, grams, kilograms, liters became normal. I came home ...
they still are normal, I now have to convert metric to stupid. It would
be great if we actually did join the rest of the world before the end of
my lifetime. But, I'm not holding my breath.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/28/2020 6:14 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote:

> Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of sense. When I got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few Craftsman metric tape measures on one of my trips to Canada...could not find one in the US at all.
>
> Worth noting that while you can often swap sockets and wrenches twixt US and metric...there are many sizes that have close equivalents...the same does not hold true at all for nuts and screws that I have found. Might be some that are close, but I have not stumbled across them.
>
> On 2020-08-28 17:48:-0700, Phil Kane wrote:
>> On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
>>
>>> Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch?
>> Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch.... :)
>>
>> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
>>

Byron Servies

Re: KX3 microphone nut size

I agree 100%

Despite my scientific training, which was all metric, I have spent
ages adjusting my wet-ware to it. 5280ft / mi? WTF?

Indeed, just today, I thought, what is this space in millimeters? 60?
It was 65, and I was happy. The same with volumes and grams. It just
works.

But, I, too, am not holding my breath. When I called Festool a couple
of years ago for the metric scales for my saw and router (they
switched to Imperial for the US market), they told me I was the first
one to ask for them. They were free. Nevermind that sheet material is
actually make in metric even for our market and is only inch-like.

73, Byron N6NUL
p.s. Imperial units in the US have been officially defined in metric
for decades.

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 7:14 PM Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> In my teens, there was metric, confined to meters [or metres] used by
> amateur radio operators, and all the rest: inches, feet, pounds,
> gallons, quarts, cups, teaspoons, tablespoons, and the other plethora of
> stupid measures I grew up with. We had 2x4's, which actually were not
> 2" x 4". We measured nails in pennies ... I'm sure there was a reason
> ... OK, not so sure, but that's how it was. Then, the US Military sent
> me to the other side of the planet, and over time I began to think
> metric. Meters, grams, kilograms, liters became normal. I came home ...
> they still are normal, I now have to convert metric to stupid. It would
> be great if we actually did join the rest of the world before the end of
> my lifetime. But, I'm not holding my breath.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 8/28/2020 6:14 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote:
> > Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of sense. When I got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few Craftsman metric tape measures on one of my trips to Canada...could not find one in the US at all.
> >
> > Worth noting that while you can often swap sockets and wrenches twixt US and metric...there are many sizes that have close equivalents...the same does not hold true at all for nuts and screws that I have found. Might be some that are close, but I have not stumbled across them.
> >
> > On 2020-08-28 17:48:-0700, Phil Kane wrote:
> >> On 8/28/2020 1:49 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
> >>
> >>> Metric 6 mm is close enough to thread on but wrong threads per inch?
> >> Remember that US electronics is slowly going Metric inch by inch.... :)
> >>
> >> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
> >>
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Re: KX3 microphone nut size

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On 8/28/20 at 9:14 PM, [hidden email] (Rich NE1EE) wrote:

>Yes ;-) I started w metric in the 70s, because it made a lot of
>sense. When I got my license in the 90s, I had to pick up a few
>Craftsman metric tape measures on one of my trips to
>Canada...could not find one in the US at all.

Companies like Forestry Suppliers have tapes in both Metric and
US measures. I particularly like the Metric/Feet and 1/10 -
1/100 tapes. You can do the arithmetic without converting to
1/12s of a foot. They are great for making wire antennas.

<https://www.forestry-suppliers.com/product_pages/products.php?mi=56536&itemnum=39970>

They also have longer tapes up to 100M.

And I agree with Skip about metric vs US. Please tell me which
is bigger in diameter, a number 35 drill or a number 27? How
about a number 4 knitting needle or a number 8?

True trivia: The book, "Measuring America" says that at the time
of the American Revolution there were over 100,000 measurement
units in use in the colanies. Some of this came from the miller
using different bushles for buying grain and selling flour. (The
difference was his profit margin.)

73 Bill AE6JV

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Re: KX3 microphone nut size

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Actually... not so "stupid" if you are in the building trades. 12 has more factors than 10, which makes is a LOT more convenient when breaking it into divisible segments.

Also... it keeps us safe from the Canadians invading. Everytime they've tried they fall short of their destination.

;)

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In my teens, there was metric, confined to meters [or metres] used by amateur radio operators, and all the rest: inches, feet, pounds, gallons, quarts, cups, teaspoons, tablespoons, and the other plethora of stupid measures I grew up with. We had 2x4's, which actually were not 2" x 4". We measured nails in pennies ... I'm sure there was a reason ... OK, not so sure, but that's how it was. Then, the US Military sent me to the other side of the planet, and over time I began to think metric. Meters, grams, kilograms, liters became normal. I came home ...
they still are normal, I now have to convert metric to stupid. It would be great if we actually did join the rest of the world before the end of my lifetime. But, I'm not holding my breath.

73,

Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County

On 8/28/2020 6:14 PM, Rich NE1EE wrote:

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Re: [Elecraft-KX] KX3 microphone nut size

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Thanks Wayne and everyone else who responded! I should be able to get in
touch with support sometime next week.

Anyway, I figured it was something like being metric instead of imperial.
It would be nice if everything was the same for sure.

-Mooneer K6AQ

On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 4:27 PM N6KR <[hidden email]> wrote:

> It's metric. If you need one, we'll send it at no charge. Please contact
> support.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> > On Aug 28, 2020, at 4:24 PM, Rich NE1EE <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > It is easy to cross thread nuts and screws this way. IME, machine
> threads...which is likely what you have here...either work or they don't.
> You should be able to get at least 2 clean, easy rotations. And that is for
> a nut that is going on a bolt/stud that will not stand proud of the nut
> when it is tight. That likely applies to many of the screws and nuts in the
> Elecraft equipment. Folks who "think" that they have a good match and that
> the nut just needs to be "tightened" wind up cross threading, and then you
> be lucky a) get the nut off, and b) get the correct one to fit. This works
> for all sizes...right up to, and past, engine block studs and nuts.
> (Experience.) Many are the times that I have wrapped my hand around a
> manifold, to a stud I can't see, and gently rotated the nut until I was
> sure that I had a proper fit.
> >
> > Now...back to the KX3...this comes as a kit, yes? Then perhaps the kit
> manual calls out the nut size.
> >
> > On 2020-08-28 13:34:-0700, Mooneer Salem wrote:
> >> Tried some normal 1/4"-20 hex nuts from Lowe's too (much too thick mind
> you, but should at least confirm if the diameter/TPI are correct) and no
> such luck.�
> >>
> >> Interestingly, I took off the nut from a spare SMA pigtail and it was
> able to mate it with the microphone connector. However, I couldn't rotate
> it past 1/2 turn or so and I didn't want to force it with tools and
> potentially damage the jack. If it was the correct size, I'd have been able
> to tighten it much further by hand, right?
> >>
> >> -Mooneer K6AQ
> >>
> >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:21 PM hawley, charles j jr <<mailto:
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> >> 1/4"-20� I think
> >>
> >> Chuck Hawley
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> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Does anyone know what exactly would replace the microphone nut on the
> KX3?
> >> (I seem to have somehow misplaced mine.) The jack itself seemed to
> measure
> >> 1/4" OD but some 1/4"-32 panel nuts that I found don't seem to screw
> into
> >> it.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> -Mooneer K6AQ
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