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AB5N
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Greetings-

Wow, there's almost no info available on KX-3 kit production. If I had to theorize:

I imagine that the original board problem was corrected, but that there were several
other small - mostly software- problems to work out. Being that assembled units are being shipped,
the board supplier must have delivered working boards. The DSP chip was delayed in showing up
but certainly adequate supplies of it are now available. Of all existing orders, 2/3rds are kit orders.

The questions facing Eric and Wayne must be: How many people do we add/train to fulfill KX-3 orders
and what else can we use them on -when KX-3 orders taper down? When do we feel that enough of the
bugs have been worked-out of the KX-3 assembly and firmware so we can start shipping?
Assembled rigs bring in $100 more (and orders for them keep coming in). The kits are actually
more difficult to put together (all boards must be hand-checked and packed) It's hard to make it top
priority to ship kits out. Plus, there will be user assembly questions which will drain employee time once
they start shipping kits.
Then there is Dayton coming up... more distractions and man-hours.

If I was them, I'd fill ALL factory-assembled unit orders before shipping any kits. It's common business sense.
They are now 3/4 through all factory-assembled orders as-per Tom's list. At present rates, that puts kit shipping starting after Dayton some time. It might even be their goal to ship the remaining assembled units before Dayton. Being Dayton sucks a wide-week out of the schedule, I'd look for kits to start shipping at the end of May. I hope so- as there will be another bevy of orders after Dayton!

Hows that for conjecture?!

Bob-AB5N
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Rob May-2

As far as the spreadsheet goes, it's heavily biased towards those who ordered early.  There is no way that they are 3/4 of the way through delivering factory built K3's.  They are not even up to 45 minutes after ordering started.  No units were shipped this past week as far as I can tell.  No one has updated the spreadsheet to show that they've received shipping notice from Elecraft in over a week.  I don't think Elecraft is shipping factory kits first because they make $100 more dollars, that's a nominal amount for the amount of tech time to assemble them.  I think they just need to get the kinks out of the kitting process and make sure they have a clear manual that the average ham can follow.
 
I don't know what the most recent delay is, but I hope it's resolved soon because I'm the next one on the factory built list! :)  Meanwhile, having fun playing with the batteries, case, antennas I've ordered to go with the KX3.
Rob
NV5E

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> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 09:06:52 -0700
> From: [hidden email]
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory
>
> Greetings-
>
> Wow, there's almost no info available on KX-3 production. If I had to
> theorize:
>
> I imagine that the original board problem was corrected, but that there were
> several
> other small - mostly software- problems to work out. Being that assembled
> units are being shipped,
> the board supplier must have delivered working boards. The DSP chip was
> delayed in showing up
> but certainly adequate supplies of it are now available. Of all existing
> orders, 2/3rds are kit orders.
>
> The questions facing Eric and Wayne must be: How many people do we add/train
> to fulfill KX-3 orders
> and what else can we use them on -when KX-3 orders taper down? When do we
> feel that enough of the
> bugs have been worked-out of the KX-3 assembly and firmware so we can start
> shipping?
> Assembled rigs bring in $100 more (and orders for them keep coming in). The
> kits are actually
> more difficult to put together (all boards must be hand-checked and packed)
> It's hard to make it top
> priority to ship kits out. Plus, there will be user assembly questions which
> will drain employee time once
> they start shipping kits.
> Then there is Dayton coming up... more distractions and man-hours.
>
> If I was them, I'd fill ALL factory-assembled unit orders before shipping
> any kits. It's common business sense.
> They are now 3/4 through all factory-assembled orders as-per Tom's list. At
> present rates, that puts kit shipping starting after Dayton some time. It
> /might even be/ their goal to ship the remaining assembled units before
> Dayton. Being Dayton sucks a wide-week out of the schedule, I'd look for
> kits to start shipping at the end of May. I hope so- as there will be
> another bevy of orders after Dayton!
>
> Hows that for conjecture?!
>
> Bob-AB5N
>
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Earlve7qj
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Im thinking your assessment is very accurate.  So it just means that it sucks to be me and anyone else waiting for kits.... Damn, would have been nice to have the kx3 before i went to dayton... Oh well, ill just have to wait like everyone else.

73 de  VE7QJ

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On 2012-04-28, at 9:06 AM, AB5N <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Greetings-
>
> Wow, there's almost no info available on KX-3 production. If I had to
> theorize:
>
> I imagine that the original board problem was corrected, but that there were
> several
> other small - mostly software- problems to work out. Being that assembled
> units are being shipped,
> the board supplier must have delivered working boards. The DSP chip was
> delayed in showing up
> but certainly adequate supplies of it are now available. Of all existing
> orders, 2/3rds are kit orders.
>
> The questions facing Eric and Wayne must be: How many people do we add/train
> to fulfill KX-3 orders
> and what else can we use them on -when KX-3 orders taper down? When do we
> feel that enough of the
> bugs have been worked-out of the KX-3 assembly and firmware so we can start
> shipping?
> Assembled rigs bring in $100 more (and orders for them keep coming in). The
> kits are actually
> more difficult to put together (all boards must be hand-checked and packed)
> It's hard to make it top
> priority to ship kits out. Plus, there will be user assembly questions which
> will drain employee time once
> they start shipping kits.
> Then there is Dayton coming up... more distractions and man-hours.
>
> If I was them, I'd fill ALL factory-assembled unit orders before shipping
> any kits. It's common business sense.
> They are now 3/4 through all factory-assembled orders as-per Tom's list. At
> present rates, that puts kit shipping starting after Dayton some time. It
> /might even be/ their goal to ship the remaining assembled units before
> Dayton. Being Dayton sucks a wide-week out of the schedule, I'd look for
> kits to start shipping at the end of May. I hope so- as there will be
> another bevy of orders after Dayton!
>
> Hows that for conjecture?!
>
> Bob-AB5N
>
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Re: Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

Bruce Beford-2
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Bob-
In this regard, Tom's list is very misleading. Only a small fraction of
customers have offered to place their orders on Tom's private spreadsheet.
It is really of no value unless you placed an order within the first few
hours of the order page opening up. Even then, you need to know your
confirmation email time, and are relying on those ahead of you to offer
their info for posting.

They are nowhere near 3/4 of the way through factory assembled orders. I
guarantee that. In fact, I would bet they are not even 10% of the way
through factory assembled orders. (and new orders are coming in daily) The
latest order confirmation time for a publicly announced factory assembled
KX3 delivery was 28 minutes after ordering opened. By now, there is a
backlog of probably close to 2000 units. Sales is quoting 90-120 day
delivery for orders placed now.

Last week, a posting was made indicating a 2 week delay in kit order
shipping starting. This would hopefully put kit orders beginning before
Dayton.

I ordered about 3 1/2 hours after the gate opened. I am still hoping to see
my kit by Field Day. (If not, I'll run the K2 and a KD1JV ATS/MTR rig)

73,
Bruce, N1RX

> They are now 3/4 through all factory-assembled orders as-per Tom's list.


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k6dgw
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This thread reminds me of the time traveler from 2012 who went back in
time and talked to the Mayans, describing in detail the widespread study
of their stone calendars and the concerns that the calendar ends in Oct
of 2012.  The Mayans were incredulous, and the chief said to the time
traveler, "Look.  A bunch of dirtbags invaded our country and we got
busy taking care of that.  We never got back to the calendar."

73,

Fred K6DGW
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- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

On 4/28/2012 9:59 AM, Rob May wrote:
>
> As far as the spreadsheet goes, it's heavily biased towards those who
> ordered early.  There is no way that they are 3/4 of the way through
> delivering factory built K3's.  They are not even up to 45 minutes
> after ordering started.  No units were shipped this past week as far
> as I can tell.  No one has updated the spreadsheet to show that
> they've received shipping notice from Elecraft in over a week.

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Re: Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

AB5N
Fred- Thanks for the laugh! Very insightful.

And thanks for the other comments too. I realize conjecture is useless, but somehow
we all do this when we are so interested in the fate of something as compelling as the KX-3.

If Tom's list is only a fraction of the actual orders (and I think it might be a higher fraction
than imagined), the only data one can draw from it - is that this poll
of existing orders does represent the relative ratio of kit to factory orders.
(a 10% random polling sampling gives over 95% accuracy)

We can also see that it seems that no orders have been shipped for a week.

Also, we can observe that Eric and Wayne have erred on the side of less information over
more information. Whatever generates less inquiry traffic for them is best. They have been
down this road before.

We who are waiting just hope that production of the KX-3 will continue at some date
and that eventually the object of our desire will appear on our doorstep.

I can't say that ANY ham radio produced in my 5 sunspot cycles has been
as tantalizing as the KX-3. I think it will be what puts Elecraft into Ham Radio history.

And I certainly didn't mean to infer that the $100 price difference had an influence on not shipping
kits. Obviously their company was founded on making kits and it is a winning approach.

If any of we who ordered -could create such a masterpiece of engineering, we would do so.
A major tip-of-the-hat to Eric and Wayne for achieving this level of design excellence.

Bob-AB5N


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Phil LaMarche-2
I'm guessing with the lengthy time to ship all back orders, the KAT500 is
being pushed further behind it's anticipated April delivery.. I am as
anxious to receive this as you are with the KX3.

Phil

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of AB5N
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 1:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

Fred- Thanks for the laugh! Very insightful.

And thanks for the other comments too. I realize conjecture is useless, but
somehow we all do this when we are so interested in the fate of something as
compelling as the KX-3.

If Tom's list is only a fraction of the actual orders (and I think it might
be a higher fraction than imagined), the only data one can draw from it - is
that this poll of existing orders does represent the /relative ratio/ of kit
to factory orders.
(a 10% random polling sampling gives over 95% accuracy)

We can also see that it seems that no orders have been shipped for a week.

Also, we can observe that Eric and Wayne have erred on the side of less
information over more information. Whatever generates less inquiry traffic
for them is best.
They have been
down this road before.

We who are waiting just hope that production of the KX-3 will continue at
some date and that eventually the object of our desire will appear on our
doorstep.

I can't say that ANY ham radio produced in my 5 sunspot cycles has been as
tantalizing as the KX-3. I think it will be what puts Elecraft into Ham
Radio history.

And I certainly didn't mean to infer that the $100 price difference had an
influence on not shipping kits. Obviously their company was founded on
making kits and it is a winning approach.

If any of we who ordered -could create such a masterpiece of engineering, we
would do so.
A major tip-of-the-hat to Eric and Wayne for achieving this level of design
excellence.

Bob-AB5N




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Re: Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

Bill Tubbs, WK6A
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Don't forget, the initial shippings are built at Elecraft, and they go out as they're built. One the kits start going out it's logical that they will go out much more quickly

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On Apr 29, 2012, at 10:48 AM, AB5N <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Fred- Thanks for the laugh! Very insightful.
>
> And thanks for the other comments too. I realize conjecture is useless, but
> somehow
> we all do this when we are so interested in the fate of something as
> compelling as the KX-3.
>
> If Tom's list is only a fraction of the actual orders (and I think it might
> be a higher fraction
> than imagined), the only data one can draw from it - is that this poll
> of existing orders does represent the /relative ratio/ of kit to factory
> orders.
> (a 10% random polling sampling gives over 95% accuracy)
>
> We can also see that it seems that no orders have been shipped for a week.
>
> Also, we can observe that Eric and Wayne have erred on the side of less
> information over
> more information. Whatever generates less inquiry traffic for them is best.
> They have been
> down this road before.
>
> We who are waiting just hope that production of the KX-3 will continue at
> some date
> and that eventually the object of our desire will appear on our doorstep.
>
> I can't say that ANY ham radio produced in my 5 sunspot cycles has been
> as tantalizing as the KX-3. I think it will be what puts Elecraft into Ham
> Radio history.
>
> And I certainly didn't mean to infer that the $100 price difference had an
> influence on not shipping
> kits. Obviously their company was founded on making kits and it is a winning
> approach.
>
> If any of we who ordered -could create such a masterpiece of engineering, we
> would do so.
> A major tip-of-the-hat to Eric and Wayne for achieving this level of design
> excellence.
>
> Bob-AB5N
>
>
>
>
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Re: Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

Lew K7GO
I'm a bit baffled by the delay.  If the parts are indeed available I would expect that Elecraft would be punching out boards/units a hundred at a time by now.  My (perhaps incorrect) impression was that that the KX3 was primarily composed of surface mount boards populated by pick-and-place robots and then wave soldered.  I would expect that the ATU boards are more effort to assemble due to the toroids, relays and what not.  Updating firmware is straightforward and based on the fact that units are actually shipping I have to believe the firmware is in reasonably good shape.

While I realize that the spreadsheet is a less than random statistical sample, I expected to see more evidence of a traditional manufacturing "hockey-stick ramp" by now.

Further, it is not at all clear to me that Elecraft will make more money shipping built units versus kits in the  near term given the order backlog.  If it takes 15 minutes to get a kit ready to ship versus an hour to build and test a unit then there will be four times as much volume at .9 revenue ($900/$1000) per unit in the kit.  The ratio will almost always be better than .9 since most of us order upgrades and accessories.  Obviously I'm making these productivity numbers up for illustration purposes.  The point remains that given the current backlog the kits *could* bring more total profit to Elecraft in the near term.
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Don Wilhelm-4
Lew,

OK, let me say first that that *d**n* spreadsheet is causing more angst
and assumptions than anything I have seen before.

No need to be baffled, Elecraft is training new people just to get your
KX3's out as soon as possible - I have seen many new names in the past
few weeks.  The more people to assemble KX3s and put kits together means
that whatever your position in line, you will get it as soon as possible
- the boards for the kits are being aligned and calibrated, so you do
not have to go through those procedures when you get your KX3 kit.

In addition, the assembly manual was being written and checked out by
those doing the assembly of production units.  The assembly manual is
further being checked out by some of the Field Testers who will
disassemble their factory built pre-production KX3s and re-assemble them
following the assembly manual.

The boards themselves are built by board manufacturing houses there in
California, so Elecraft is dealing with fully assembled boards.  The
board availability is not a problem - but that is only a portion of the
whole story.

One of the "problems" is that Elecraft is typically quite open about
what is happening.  Yes, estimates of when the first units will ship can
slip - many other manufacturer's would remain mute about the internal
goals and promises, but Elecraft opens much of that information to the
world.  If you do not understand that a typical product release and ramp
up to production levels is fraught with trials and unexpected
situations, then yes, you might think that Elecraft has failed on
"promises".  Reality is that those were not "promises", but were
"targets" - and due to the openness that is typical of Elecraft were
revealed early on, but became not feasible as time marched on.

The difference in price for assembled units and kits is *not* what is
slowing things down.  It is the rate of creating skills in the new people.

The firmware is quite fluid - that is not a factor in the speed of
shipping.  The firmware is downloadable, so you can expect that early
firmware updates will be available frequently.  I recommend that you
keep your KX3 up to date with the latest firmware once you have your rig
- it is easy to install with KX3 Utility.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 5/1/2012 6:11 PM, Lew K7GO wrote:

> I'm a bit baffled by the delay.  If the parts are indeed available I would
> expect that Elecraft would be punching out boards/units a hundred at a time
> by now.  My (perhaps incorrect) impression was that that the KX3 was
> primarily composed of surface mount boards populated by pick-and-place
> robots and then wave soldered.  I would expect that the ATU boards are more
> effort to assemble due to the toroids, relays and what not.  Updating
> firmware is straightforward and based on the fact that units are actually
> shipping I have to believe the firmware is in reasonably good shape.
>
> While I realize that the spreadsheet is a less than random statistical
> sample, I expected to see more evidence of a traditional manufacturing
> "hockey-stick ramp" by now.
>
> Further, it is not at all clear to me that Elecraft will make more money
> shipping built units versus kits in the  near term given the order backlog.
> If it takes 15 minutes to get a kit ready to ship versus an hour to build
> and test a unit then there will be four times as much volume at .9 revenue
> ($900/$1000) per unit in the kit.  The ratio will almost always be better
> than .9 since most of us order upgrades and accessories.  Obviously I'm
> making these productivity numbers up for illustration purposes.  The point
> remains that given the current backlog the kits *could* bring more total
> profit to Elecraft in the near term.
>
> --
>
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k6dgw
On 5/1/2012 3:43 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> Lew,
>
> OK, let me say first that that *d**n* spreadsheet is causing more angst
> and assumptions than anything I have seen before.

As does the Mayan Calendar...[sigh].  No matter what any of us might
believe, October 2012 [I think that's the month] will be what it will
be.  No matter what any of us might think [or compute on a spreadsheet,
microcomputer, mainframe, or slide rule], Elecraft's shipping schedule
will be what they can manage.  "It is what it is," something I learned a
long time ago in war.  This isn't war, it's buying a new radio, but the
lesson still applies.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
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Re: Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

Arthur Burke
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To quote Don, that (polite expletive deleted) spreadsheet was very likely
well intentioned. However...

Most people deserve to understand 3 of what I call "pseudo statistics."
(1) Murphy's Law (anything that *can* go wrong probably will)
(2) O'Reilly's Rule - Murphy was an optimist!
(3) The rules of unintended consequences - unfortunately far more real than
either of the first two.

What's going on with the KX3 most likely also went on with the K3 - we
didn't know that much about it and the wizards at Elecraft had no need to
"share" it with us.

In my working life, I worked pretty much "behind the scenes" and dealt very
little with the public - probably a good thing. The way I would have
handled the current situation would have been far less diplomatic than what
I've seen from both Wayne and Eric.

It'll be here when it gets here!

Art - N4PJ



On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:11 PM, Lew K7GO <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'm a bit baffled by the delay.  If the parts are indeed available I would
> expect that Elecraft would be punching out boards/units a hundred at a time
> by now.  My (perhaps incorrect) impression was that that the KX3 was
> primarily composed of surface mount boards populated by pick-and-place
> robots and then wave soldered.  I would expect that the ATU boards are more
> effort to assemble due to the toroids, relays and what not.  Updating
> firmware is straightforward and based on the fact that units are actually
> shipping I have to believe the firmware is in reasonably good shape.
>
> While I realize that the spreadsheet is a less than random statistical
> sample, I expected to see more evidence of a traditional manufacturing
> "hockey-stick ramp" by now.
>
> Further, it is not at all clear to me that Elecraft will make more money
> shipping built units versus kits in the  near term given the order backlog.
> If it takes 15 minutes to get a kit ready to ship versus an hour to build
> and test a unit then there will be four times as much volume at .9 revenue
> ($900/$1000) per unit in the kit.  The ratio will almost always be better
> than .9 since most of us order upgrades and accessories.  Obviously I'm
> making these productivity numbers up for illustration purposes.  The point
> remains that given the current backlog the kits *could* bring more total
> profit to Elecraft in the near term.
>
> --
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Re: Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

Tony Estep
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On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Fred Jensen <[hidden email]> wrote:

> ...as does the Mayan Calendar...[sigh].  No matter what any of us might
> believe, October 2012 [I think that's the month] will be what it will
> be....

===============
Actually I think it's Dec 21, 2012. The world will end on that day, so the
sooner we get our KX3s the more time we'll have before the final QRT.

Tony KT0NY



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Re: Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

Don Wilhelm-4
Whatever the actual date, all those who have ordered their KX3 should
have theirs in hand before October 2012 if the shipping delay estimate
of 120 days is anywhere near correct.  120 days from today is August 29,
2012.  Clearly before the "end of the world"

We will have time to make some contacts on out KX3s.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/1/2012 8:38 PM, Tony Estep wrote:

> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Fred Jensen<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>
>> ...as does the Mayan Calendar...[sigh].  No matter what any of us might
>> believe, October 2012 [I think that's the month] will be what it will
>> be....
> ===============
> Actually I think it's Dec 21, 2012. The world will end on that day, so the
> sooner we get our KX3s the more time we'll have before the final QRT.
>
> Tony KT0NY
>
>
>
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Re: Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

Don Wilhelm-4
OK, you have not fulfilled my expectations.  I was expecting my comments
to be controversial, and would be met with much feedback, some of which
I would respond to and and others that I would ignore.  I did not
receive any response, so either my assessment of the "end of the world"
is valid or there is no further information about it.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/1/2012 8:49 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> Whatever the actual date, all those who have ordered their KX3 should
> have theirs in hand before October 2012 if the shipping delay estimate
> of 120 days is anywhere near correct.  120 days from today is August 29,
> 2012.  Clearly before the "end of the world"
>
> We will have time to make some contacts on out KX3s.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
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Re: Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

Barry K3NDM
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Don,
My only concern is having mine for Field Day. My group operates QRP. I did order mine on day 2. I expect that with K2s, K3s, and KX3s life on Field Day is going to be a real hoot.

Barry
K3NDM

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From: "Don Wilhelm" <[hidden email]>
To: "Tony Estep" <[hidden email]>
Cc: [hidden email]
Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 8:49:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

Whatever the actual date, all those who have ordered their KX3 should
have theirs in hand before October 2012 if the shipping delay estimate
of 120 days is anywhere near correct. 120 days from today is August 29,
2012. Clearly before the "end of the world"

We will have time to make some contacts on out KX3s.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 5/1/2012 8:38 PM, Tony Estep wrote:

> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM, Fred Jensen<[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> ...as does the Mayan Calendar...[sigh]. No matter what any of us might
>> believe, October 2012 [I think that's the month] will be what it will
>> be....
> ===============
> Actually I think it's Dec 21, 2012. The world will end on that day, so the
> sooner we get our KX3s the more time we'll have before the final QRT.
>
> Tony KT0NY
>
>
>
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Re: Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

Tom Azlin N4ZPT-2
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Nah, I am just still laughing Don. 73, tom n4zpt

On 5/1/2012 9:00 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:

> OK, you have not fulfilled my expectations.  I was expecting my comments
> to be controversial, and would be met with much feedback, some of which
> I would respond to and and others that I would ignore.  I did not
> receive any response, so either my assessment of the "end of the world"
> is valid or there is no further information about it.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 5/1/2012 8:49 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
>> Whatever the actual date, all those who have ordered their KX3 should
>> have theirs in hand before October 2012 if the shipping delay estimate
>> of 120 days is anywhere near correct.  120 days from today is August 29,
>> 2012.  Clearly before the "end of the world"
>>
>> We will have time to make some contacts on out KX3s.
>>
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>>
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Re: Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

Jim Low man
In reply to this post by Barry K3NDM
Same here.  Our QRP Field Day has been dominated by K2s since they were
introduced.
Someone even brought a K3 last year.

My birthday has passed (although I did buy a K3 as a gift to myself) so
the next milestone
is enough time before Field Day to assemble the KX3 and become familiar
with it.

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 5/1/2012 6:22 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> Don,
> My only concern is having mine for Field Day. My group operates QRP. I did order mine on day 2. I expect that with K2s, K3s, and KX3s life on Field Day is going to be a real hoot.
>
> Barry
> K3NDM
>
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Re: Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

Eugene Balinski
   I would rather have it right.  Give Elecraft the chance
to get all of the issues worked out.

 They are amazingly focused on customer service.  I am sure
that they are doing all that they can to get the KX3's out
as fast as possible.  

73
K1NR

K2 6xxx
KX3 (on the list)



On Tue, 01 May 2012 19:03:02 -0700
 Jim Lowman <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Same here.  Our QRP Field Day has been dominated by K2s
> since they were
> introduced.
> Someone even brought a K3 last year.
>
> My birthday has passed (although I did buy a K3 as a gift
> to myself) so
> the next milestone
> is enough time before Field Day to assemble the KX3 and
> become familiar
> with it.
>
> 73 de Jim - AD6CW
>
> On 5/1/2012 6:22 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> > Don,
> > My only concern is having mine for Field Day. My group
> operates QRP. I did order mine on day 2. I expect that
> with K2s, K3s, and KX3s life on Field Day is going to be
> a real hoot.
> >
> > Barry
> > K3NDM
> >
>
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Re: Kit Shipping Schedule Theory

WB4SON
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I have it on Mayan authority that the actual end of the world is now
expected to be delayed until November 2012.  While the Mayan's regret the
delay, rest assured that the results will be even more gruesome because of
the refined death process.

On the up side, I plan on making several hundred extra KX3 QRP contacts
during my extra time.

73, Bob, WB4SON
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