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K2QI

OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

Did anyone read the December QST's review of the FTDX5000MP?

And I quote:

"The FTDX5000 series establishes a new benchmark, the highest close-in IMD
dynamic range and third-order intercept we've ever measured."

And the review goes on to state:

"For Receiver A, at the where-it-really-matters 2kHz spacing, the two-tone
third-order IMD dynamic range at 14 MHz is just as good as at 20 kHz
spacing. In all cases, IMD dynamic range was well over 100dB. This is the
receiver with a 9 MHz first IF and narrow roofing filters, currently the hot
setup for top-of-the-line close-in dynamic range."

"For Receiver B, with a VHF IF and without the narrow roofing filters, the
worst-case dynamic range was 88 dB on 14 MHz at 2 kHz spacing; all other
numbers were in the 90s, the best being 98 dB on 14 MHz at 5 kHz spacing,
yielding an IP3 of +25 dBm."

According to the measurement summary, 2 kHz blocking gain compression is 136
dB on 20m and 80m. The third-order dynamic range was measured at 114 dB on
20. On the TX side, transmit 3rd order IMD was -30 dB on 80m, and -35 dB on
20.

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but that's pretty impressive. Even
the sub receiver's performance (while no match for the K3's sub with
filters) still puts on a good show, and is a lot better receiver than some
other rig's main receivers.

For $6,000, it's a lot of radio (literally), and would never fit on my
desk. But if you compare it to the FT-9000 or IC-7800, it's a relative
bargain.

Honestly, it looks like a great radio if you like a lot of knobs and
buttons. I won't be buying an FTDX5000 anytime soon, as the K3 does all of
that and more at the fraction of the cost, size, and weight. Plus, Elecraft
has in my opinion the best support in the industry. For those however that
want a "big rig", I think this is the one to beat.

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Rick Prather-2

Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

Impressive!

Sets an new standard for big Japanese radios. Sure would tick me off if I had recently bought an FT-2000 or worse yet, an FTdx-9000!

For myself, I would not be in the least bit tempted to replace my K3 with it though.

I'll be interested in Rob's numbers when he gets around to it.

Rick
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Joe Subich, W4TV-4

Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

> Sure would tick me off if I had recently bought an FT-2000

Ticks me off as an early owner of a FT-2000. The FT-5000 provides
the performance that the FT-2000 *should have provided*. Instead,
Yaesu released a transceiver that is arguably the modern day FT-101.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 11/14/2010 2:38 PM, Rick Prather wrote:

> Impressive!
>
> Sets an new standard for big Japanese radios. Sure would tick me off if I had recently bought an FT-2000 or worse yet, an FTdx-9000!
>
> For myself, I would not be in the least bit tempted to replace my K3 with it though.
>
> I'll be interested in Rob's numbers when he gets around to it.
>
> Rick
> K6LE
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K2QI

Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

I'm so glad I didn't buy the FT2K when I was looking for something to
replace my Yaesu FT-840. Before buying the K3, I based my search on the
following criteria:

1. Excellent receiver
2. Great customer support and user interaction
3. Made in USA (not mandatory, but it's always nice to support your country)
4. Easy enough to move around

The only product that met those requirements was the Elecraft K2 and K3.
I'm happy with my purchase decision, even after 2 years of ownership.

Maybe one day, when I have a proper home and room for a big box radio, the
FTDX5000 will be a contender. Or who knows... maybe the K4 will be the next
big thing... :)

73,
James K2QI

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 5:23 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> > Sure would tick me off if I had recently bought an FT-2000
>
> Ticks me off as an early owner of a FT-2000. The FT-5000 provides
> the performance that the FT-2000 *should have provided*. Instead,
> Yaesu released a transceiver that is arguably the modern day FT-101.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
>

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Craig Smith

Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

I read and enjoyed the review. It looks like a very good product, and will
no doubt sell well - as it should.

For me the only advantage it would have over my K3/P3 is the integrated 200
W capability and integrated power supply with > 12V power - both nice
features. But I wouldn't consider buying one, the deal breakers being:
size/weight, audible QSK relay and single color panadapter w/o waterfall.
Not to mention the more intangibles, such as ease of firmware updates and
ability to do 80% of the servicing myself. Close, but no cigar ;>)

73 Craig AC0DS

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K2QI

Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

I don't have the article in front of me at the moment, but I believe I read
that Yaesu was aware of the QSK relay issue and a circuit fix is available
for existing customers. All future production units will have the fix
already implemented.

James K2QI

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Craig D. Smith <[hidden email]>wrote:

> I read and enjoyed the review. It looks like a very good product, and will
> no doubt sell well - as it should.
>
> For me the only advantage it would have over my K3/P3 is the integrated 200
> W capability and integrated power supply with > 12V power - both nice
> features. But I wouldn't consider buying one, the deal breakers being:
> size/weight, audible QSK relay and single color panadapter w/o waterfall.
> Not to mention the more intangibles, such as ease of firmware updates and
> ability to do 80% of the servicing myself. Close, but no cigar ;>)
>
> 73 Craig AC0DS
>
>
>
>

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riese-k3djc

Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

In reply to this post by K2QI

There's the rub

members of my local club were not overly interested in my K3 as it doesnt
have all the
knobs etc on the front panel, you cant change the color of the display
and it isnt heavy
I really find that sad ,, I would get lost from time to time placing my
TS 850 in a unknown
state by accidently pushing a wrong button ,, hasnt happened on the K3
the GUI is great
but simple and some think simple relates to poor or ineffective
as I am a casual operator and dont use 1/10 the features avaible but
wanted a rig that would hold
up to some of the nasty krap on HF ,,, K3 Rocks,, was fun to build and
has great support

Bob K3DJC

> Honestly, it looks like a great radio if you like a lot of knobs
> and
> buttons. I won't be buying an FTDX5000 anytime soon, as the K3 does
> all of
> that and more at the fraction of the cost, size, and weight. Plus,
> Elecraft
> has in my opinion the best support in the industry. For those
> however that
> want a "big rig", I think this is the one to beat.
>
> --
> 73 de James K2QI

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Gary Gregory

Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

OTOH, locals here are impressed with the receiver and what the K3 CAN do and
it's inbuilt versatility and great receiver.

Nobody seemed too concerned withthe lack of size, knobs, whistles, clicks
and bells etc offered with 'other' boxes.

If enough people took the time to 'LEARN' how to set up there own K3 such as
on SSB adjusting the Hi/Lo Cut then most would stop complaining about what
some term 'edgy' AF etc.

What constantly amazes me is the barrage of seemingly endless complaints
about some perceived limitation or design deficiency in the K3 when a little
more time spent in front of the K3 'learning' 'how' to use the K3 would
enhance their personal appreciation of a superb radio.

In Australia we live in a 'throw away' or 'trade-in' society due to lack of
manufacturing and I for one appreciate very much the amount of thought and
sweat that has gone into the production of the K3 and being badged "Born in
the USA' is a very real factor in deciding what next I will 'acquire'.

Just about everything we turn over to look at the label states 'Made in
China' and whilst many good products come from Asia it is still terrific to
see a very well run company responsive to customer concerns without the
common response of 'send it back for replacement' or trade it in on the next
new 'box' being released to 'fix' the design or manufacturer faults created
at birth.

Oh well, turn of my mouth and sit and receive for awhile now....:-)

Flame suit on and zipped up, air bag at the ready :-)

73's
Gary

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:11 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

> There's the rub
>
> members of my local club were not overly interested in my K3 as it doesnt
> have all the
> knobs etc on the front panel, you cant change the color of the display
> and it isnt heavy
> I really find that sad ,, I would get lost from time to time placing my
> TS 850 in a unknown
> state by accidently pushing a wrong button ,, hasnt happened on the K3
> the GUI is great
> but simple and some think simple relates to poor or ineffective
> as I am a casual operator and dont use 1/10 the features avaible but
> wanted a rig that would hold
> up to some of the nasty krap on HF ,,, K3 Rocks,, was fun to build and
> has great support
>
> Bob K3DJC
>
>
>
>
> > Honestly, it looks like a great radio if you like a lot of knobs
> > and
> > buttons. I won't be buying an FTDX5000 anytime soon, as the K3 does
> > all of
> > that and more at the fraction of the cost, size, and weight. Plus,
> > Elecraft
> > has in my opinion the best support in the industry. For those
> > however that
> > want a "big rig", I think this is the one to beat.
> >
> > --
> > 73 de James K2QI
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n7ws

Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

Not everything is made in China, I drive a car made in Australia. Unfortunately, the new management (the US government) decided to kill the brand (Pontiac). I'm an old guy driving a young person's performance car while in China, the young Chinese love our old folks' Buicks. It's a crazy world.

--- On Sun, 11/14/10, Gary Gregory <[hidden email]> wrote:

Just about everything we turn over to look at the label states 'Made in
China' and whilst many good products come from Asia it is still terrific to
see a very well run company responsive to customer concerns without the
common response of 'send it back for replacement' or trade it in on the next
new 'box' being released to 'fix' the design or manufacturer faults created
at birth.

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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

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Johnny Siu

Re： OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

In reply to this post by Craig Smith

Hello Craig,

Is there a 'manual notch within AGC loop' in the FTDX5000? I have not read the
product review yet.

I trust 'manual notch within AGC loop' is a must in any high end transceiver.
cheers,

Johnny VR2XMC

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主題： Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

I read and enjoyed the review. It looks like a very good product, and will
no doubt sell well - as it should.

For me the only advantage it would have over my K3/P3 is the integrated 200
W capability and integrated power supply with > 12V power - both nice
features. But I wouldn't consider buying one, the deal breakers being:
size/weight, audible QSK relay and single color panadapter w/o waterfall.
Not to mention the more intangibles, such as ease of firmware updates and
ability to do 80% of the servicing myself. Close, but no cigar ;>)

73 Craig AC0DS

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george fritkin

Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

In reply to this post by Gary Gregory

First I have 2)K3s and I highly respect and like the folks at Elecraft. I agree with weight and size and knobs (thing about this... there are more "knobs" on the K3 than one might think), but the cost is not a great deal different when you option up the K3 to the same features as the 5K. Performance is probably a push, but Elecraft support rocks and that is the difference. Their competitors will achieve comparable performance levels, but they will not duplicate Elecraft as a company
George, W6GF

--- On Sun, 11/14/10, Gary Gregory <[hidden email]> wrote:

From: Gary Gregory <[hidden email]>
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
To: [hidden email]
Cc:
Date: Sunday, November 14, 2010, 3:25 PM

OTOH, locals here are impressed with the receiver and what the K3 CAN do and
it's inbuilt versatility and great receiver.

Nobody seemed too concerned withthe lack of size, knobs, whistles, clicks
and bells etc offered with 'other' boxes.

If enough people took the time to 'LEARN' how to set up there own K3 such as
on SSB adjusting the Hi/Lo Cut then most would stop complaining about what
some term 'edgy' AF etc.

What constantly amazes me is the barrage of seemingly endless complaints
about some perceived limitation or design deficiency in the K3 when a little
more time spent in front of the K3 'learning' 'how' to use the K3 would
enhance their personal appreciation of a superb radio.

In Australia we live in a 'throw away' or 'trade-in' society due to lack of
manufacturing and I for one appreciate very much the amount of thought and
sweat that has gone into the production of the K3 and being badged "Born in
the USA' is a very real factor in deciding what next I will 'acquire'.

Just about everything we turn over to look at the label states 'Made in
China' and whilst many good products come from Asia it is still terrific to
see a very well run company responsive to customer concerns without the
common response of 'send it back for replacement' or trade it in on the next
new 'box' being released to 'fix' the design or manufacturer faults created
at birth.

Oh well, turn of my mouth and sit and receive for awhile now....:-)

Flame suit on and zipped up, air bag at the ready :-)

73's
Gary

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 11:11 PM, <[hidden email]> wrote:

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John_N1JM

Re: Re： OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

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One of my pet peeves of the K3 is the notch is not within the agc loop and yes I know it's not good for IMD but so what. It's not engaged all the time. The other is excessive birdies which the 5000 does not hardly have any.

John N1JM

Johnny Siu wrote

Hello Craig,

Is there a 'manual notch within AGC loop' in the FTDX5000? I have not read the
product review yet.

I trust 'manual notch within AGC loop' is a must in any high end transceiver.
cheers,

Johnny VR2XMC

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主題： Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

I read and enjoyed the review. It looks like a very good product, and will
no doubt sell well - as it should.

For me the only advantage it would have over my K3/P3 is the integrated 200
W capability and integrated power supply with > 12V power - both nice
features. But I wouldn't consider buying one, the deal breakers being:
size/weight, audible QSK relay and single color panadapter w/o waterfall.
Not to mention the more intangibles, such as ease of firmware updates and
ability to do 80% of the servicing myself. Close, but no cigar ;>)

73 Craig AC0DS

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Johnny Siu

OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

Hi John,

Excessive birdies in K3 will consume a lot of the DSP power in eliminating
them. I would think the DSP power should be used / reserved for other
meaningful radio functions.
cheers,

Johnny VR2XMC

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主題： Re: [Elecraft] Re： OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

One of my pet peeves of the K3 is the notch is not within the agc loop and
yes I know it's not good for IMD but so what. It's not engaged all the time.
The other is excessive birdies which the 5000 does not hardly have any.

John N1JM

Johnny Siu wrote:

>
> Hello Craig,
>
> Is there a 'manual notch within AGC loop' in the FTDX5000? I have not
> read the
> product review yet.
>
> I trust 'manual notch within AGC loop' is a must in any high end
> transceiver.
> cheers,
>
>
> Johnny VR2XMC
>
>
>
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> <[hidden email]>
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> 傳送日期﹕ 2010/11/15 (一) 7:03:33 AM
> 主題： Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
>
> I read and enjoyed the review. It looks like a very good product, and
> will
> no doubt sell well - as it should.
>
> For me the only advantage it would have over my K3/P3 is the integrated
> 200
> W capability and integrated power supply with > 12V power - both nice
> features. But I wouldn't consider buying one, the deal breakers being:
> size/weight, audible QSK relay and single color panadapter w/o waterfall.
> Not to mention the more intangibles, such as ease of firmware updates and
> ability to do 80% of the servicing myself. Close, but no cigar ;>)
>
> 73 Craig AC0DS
>
>
>
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Gary Gregory

Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

Aaah, the humble Holden Commodore. Yes it IS a great car (not a Ford) made
by GM of course.

Have a look at the website for HSV Commodore and you will see the Oz version
of the Pontiac. Awesome cars.

There are few consumer products made here now which is sad but as we only
have some 22 million people here I guess the price of production makes it
all uneconomical to produce...:-(

Elecraft are quite amazing in both their ability to design and manufacturer
a leading contender (if not the best which it is in my personal opinion) HAM
radio transceiver available. Gee, look at what the dealers are asking for an
FT-5000 here and the K3 is by far a better solution. Yaesu still like to
have expensive add-ons to sell and to my way of thinking they do not give me
good value for money.

There service here is legendary...or if you like plain talk...lousy, slow,
expensive and uncommunicative...sorry Eric, that is an honest opinion and I
don't wish to start a kerfuffle on the reflector, but, as I was previously a
Yaesu Dealer I feel I have a right to be critical without denigrating
anyone..:-)

With advent of the KPA-500 and shortly thereafter the KAT-500?...my needs
will be filled and I don't want any of you guys telling Elecraft to build a
K4 coz I aint got room for one and don't want to feel left out...:-)

OK, back in my hole I go....

73' to all
Elecraft Rocks...now who stole my Kool-Aid?

Gary

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 3:00 AM, Johnny Siu <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Excessive birdies in K3 will consume a lot of the DSP power in eliminating
> them. I would think the DSP power should be used / reserved for other
> meaningful radio functions.
> cheers,
>
>
> Johnny VR2XMC
>
>
>
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> 傳送日期﹕ 2010/11/15 (一) 10:05:24 AM
> 主題： Re: [Elecraft] Re： OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
>
>
> One of my pet peeves of the K3 is the notch is not within the agc loop and
> yes I know it's not good for IMD but so what. It's not engaged all the
> time.
> The other is excessive birdies which the 5000 does not hardly have any.
>
> John N1JM
>
>
> Johnny Siu wrote:
> >
> > Hello Craig,
> >
> > Is there a 'manual notch within AGC loop' in the FTDX5000? I have not
> > read the
> > product review yet.
> >
> > I trust 'manual notch within AGC loop' is a must in any high end
> > transceiver.
> > cheers,
> >
> >
> > Johnny VR2XMC
> >
> >
> >
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> > 主題： Re: [Elecraft] OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP
> >
> > I read and enjoyed the review. It looks like a very good product, and
> > will
> > no doubt sell well - as it should.
> >
> > For me the only advantage it would have over my K3/P3 is the integrated
> > 200
> > W capability and integrated power supply with > 12V power - both nice
> > features. But I wouldn't consider buying one, the deal breakers being:
> > size/weight, audible QSK relay and single color panadapter w/o waterfall.
> > Not to mention the more intangibles, such as ease of firmware updates and
> > ability to do 80% of the servicing myself. Close, but no cigar ;>)
> >
> > 73 Craig AC0DS
> >
> >
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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

I had the chance to look at the FTDX5000's manual last night, as I was
curious to see how the rig could be connected to a computer for digital
modes. I had almost forgotten what a pain it was to hook up my FT840 to a
PC, and I see with the FTDX5000, not much has changed. In order to connect
to the computer and use something like DM780, one would need to purchase a
separate TNC.

I'm surprised that Yaesu still insisted on using a proprietary interface
requiring a special connector. At least the new Icom's can pass rig
commands and audio via their built-in USB ports. I would have assumed that
Yaesu would have followed suit, but I guess not.

It suddenly occurred to me how well designed the K3 really is, especially if
one purchases the KIO3 module. No mess, no fuss, no external boxes and
settings to deal with. It's as close to plug-and-play as one can get. All
I needed to interface the K3 with my computer was 2 stereo cables for line
in and line out, and an RS232 straight cable for rig control.

In a word - brilliant!

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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

>> I'm surprised that Yaesu still insisted on using a proprietary interface
>> requiring a special connector.

The FT-990/1000/2000/5000/9000 PKT input with a standard DIN 5 is
hardly "proprietary." Other than the DIN 5 that has been around
for many years - the PKT jack is not functionally different than
the KIO3 with its 2 x 3.5mm jacks for audio and DB15HD for PTT.

Some of the other new Yaesu (FT-450/8x7/950) rigs have adopted the
mini-DIN6 "DATA" jack that has become an amateur industry standard.

73,

... Joe, W4TV

On 11/15/2010 10:51 AM, James Sarte wrote:

> I had the chance to look at the FTDX5000's manual last night, as I was
> curious to see how the rig could be connected to a computer for digital
> modes. I had almost forgotten what a pain it was to hook up my FT840 to a
> PC, and I see with the FTDX5000, not much has changed. In order to connect
> to the computer and use something like DM780, one would need to purchase a
> separate TNC.
>
> I'm surprised that Yaesu still insisted on using a proprietary interface
> requiring a special connector. At least the new Icom's can pass rig
> commands and audio via their built-in USB ports. I would have assumed that
> Yaesu would have followed suit, but I guess not.
>
> It suddenly occurred to me how well designed the K3 really is, especially if
> one purchases the KIO3 module. No mess, no fuss, no external boxes and
> settings to deal with. It's as close to plug-and-play as one can get. All
> I needed to interface the K3 with my computer was 2 stereo cables for line
> in and line out, and an RS232 straight cable for rig control.
>
> In a word - brilliant!
>

K2QI

Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

Thanks for pointing that out Joe. I should probably have used a better
word. By proprietary, I was simply meaning that it's not as common an
interface as an RS232 port, and two 3.5mm audio jacks. Almost everyone has
stereo patch cables and perhaps a straight DB9 serial cable laying around.
Not many might have a DIN 5 plug. At least I don't. :)

73,
James K2QI

On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> >> I'm surprised that Yaesu still insisted on using a proprietary interface
> >> requiring a special connector.
>
> The FT-990/1000/2000/5000/9000 PKT input with a standard DIN 5 is
> hardly "proprietary." Other than the DIN 5 that has been around
> for many years - the PKT jack is not functionally different than
> the KIO3 with its 2 x 3.5mm jacks for audio and DB15HD for PTT.
>
> Some of the other new Yaesu (FT-450/8x7/950) rigs have adopted the
> mini-DIN6 "DATA" jack that has become an amateur industry standard.
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>

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Don Cunningham

Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

In reply to this post by K2QI

James,
As Joe said, the Din 5 plug has been around a LONG time. I first used itin
the late 1970's with my old Radio Shack Model I computer!! It is a well
made device, easily soldered even for those of us with impaired vision. I
have a "cheater" pigtail built for each of my rigs so the old HAL RTTY TU
only needs to see an RCA on each end. Works well for an old guy, hi.
73,
Don, WB5HAK

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Re: OT: QST's review of the Yaesu FTDX5000MP

Not to be deliberately crass, but I have absolutely no use for a $6,000+
radio -- contesting or not. Like most hams, this is a hobby I do for fun,
and spending that kind of money on a transceiver is virtually unthinkable.
For the price of that rig, I could buy some new living room furniture and
take the XYL on a two week Caribbean cruise.

73!

Steve, KW4H
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