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I'm aware of a few Elecraft engineers and owners having a Tesla Model S, hence the post.
When I first got my Model S, I had no plans to put a 2m radio in it. Now I'm having second thoughts. Wonder if any Model S owners have installed a radio? Feel free to contact me off list at my callsign at arrl.net, if you prefer. Tnx, Barry W2UP |
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Neither Elecraft co-owner has a Tesla, nor are we likely to get them anytime soon, speaking strictly for both of us. I drive a very pragmatic Honda CRV and am coveting a Prius V for its better gas mileage. I prefer not to drive at all, actually. I have a hybrid mountain bike that runs on the equivalent of approx. 0.5 McChicken sandwiches per hour.
As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be partially covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?) Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that elusive next charging station. Wayne N6KR On Oct 6, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Barry <[hidden email]> wrote: > I'm aware of a few Elecraft engineers and owners having a Tesla Model S, > hence the post. > > When I first got my Model S, I had no plans to put a 2m radio in it. Now > I'm having second thoughts. Wonder if any Model S owners have installed a > radio? > > Feel free to contact me off list at my callsign at arrl.net, if you prefer. > > Tnx, > Barry W2UP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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But the POTUS gives rebates to the buyers and backing to the CO.
Fred N0AZZ Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone-------- Original message --------From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> Date: 10/06/2015 12:41 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Barry <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S Neither Elecraft co-owner has a Tesla, nor are we likely to get them anytime soon, speaking strictly for both of us. I drive a very pragmatic Honda CRV and am coveting a Prius V for its better gas mileage. I prefer not to drive at all, actually. I have a hybrid mountain bike that runs on the equivalent of approx. 0.5 McChicken sandwiches per hour. As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be partially covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?) Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that elusive next charging station. Wayne N6KR On Oct 6, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Barry <[hidden email]> wrote: > I'm aware of a few Elecraft engineers and owners having a Tesla Model S, > hence the post. > > When I first got my Model S, I had no plans to put a 2m radio in it. Now > I'm having second thoughts. Wonder if any Model S owners have installed a > radio? > > Feel free to contact me off list at my callsign at arrl.net, if you prefer. > > Tnx, > Barry W2UP ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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IMHO the current Tesla is a transitional vehicle on the way to inexpensive cars powered by graphene ultra capacitors instead of Li-ion batteries. POTUS see the future and is moving things along in that direction :)
Wayne On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:56 AM, mfsj <[hidden email]> wrote: > But the POTUS gives rebates to the buyers and backing to the CO. > > Fred N0AZZ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company that has arguably done more to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream than any other. Other companies may have higher volume and lower cost models out there, but Tesla is the first one with the conviction to prove it can be successful as a standalone business instead of just a side offering to satisfy EPA average mileage requirements. Certainly Tesla has started at the top end of the food chain to do so, but their focus is headed toward the larger market ... demonstrating along the way that electric vehicles don't need to be the underpowered laughing stocks they were typically portrayed as. Dave AB7E On 10/6/2015 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > > As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be partially covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?) > > Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that elusive next charging station. > > Wayne > N6KR > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge supporter of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous. Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:10 AM, David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote: > > That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company that has arguably done more to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream than any other. Other companies may have higher volume and lower cost models out there, but Tesla is the first one with the conviction to prove it can be successful as a standalone business instead of just a side offering to satisfy EPA average mileage requirements. Certainly Tesla has started at the top end of the food chain to do so, but their focus is headed toward the larger market ... demonstrating along the way that electric vehicles don't need to be the underpowered laughing stocks they were typically portrayed as. > > Dave AB7E > > > > On 10/6/2015 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> >> As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be partially covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?) >> >> Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that elusive next charging station. >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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And the other side:
Our columnist Bret Stephens writes that at the President's Friday press conference, Mr. Obama described alternatives to his Syria policy as "mumbo-jumbo," "half-baked ideas," and "as-if" solutions. "So it is with this president. It's not enough for him to stake and defend his positions. He wants you to know that he thinks deeper, sees further, knows better, operates from a purer motive. His preferred method for dealing with disagreement is denigration," Jim W6AIM -----Original Message----- From: [hidden email] [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:01 AM To: mfsj Cc: Barry; [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S IMHO the current Tesla is a transitional vehicle on the way to inexpensive cars powered by graphene ultra capacitors instead of Li-ion batteries. POTUS see the future and is moving things along in that direction :) Wayne On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:56 AM, mfsj <[hidden email]> wrote: > But the POTUS gives rebates to the buyers and backing to the CO. > > Fred N0AZZ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Folks - Thread closed due to the politically oriented posting below. This is too
far OT. As per thread guidelines, please make posts with political comments elsewhere. 73, Eric /elecraft.com/ On 10/6/2015 11:17 AM, jim wrote: > And the other side: > > Our columnist Bret Stephens writes that at the President's Friday press > conference, Mr. Obama described alternatives to his Syria policy as...... ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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But only the rich can afford to buy or get rebates on cars like those.
Fred N0AZZ Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone-------- Original message --------From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> Date: 10/06/2015 1:00 PM (GMT-06:00) To: mfsj <[hidden email]> Cc: Barry <[hidden email]>, [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S IMHO the current Tesla is a transitional vehicle on the way to inexpensive cars powered by graphene ultra capacitors instead of Li-ion batteries. POTUS see the future and is moving things along in that direction :) Wayne On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:56 AM, mfsj <[hidden email]> wrote: > But the POTUS gives rebates to the buyers and backing to the CO. > > Fred N0AZZ ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Sorry ... my bad. It did sound kind of over-the-top so I should have gotten a clue. My mistake. Dave AB7E On 10/6/2015 11:15 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Dave, > > It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge supporter of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous. > > Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR > > > On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:10 AM, David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company that has arguably done more to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream than any other. Other companies may have higher volume and lower cost models out there, but Tesla is the first one with the conviction to prove it can be successful as a standalone business instead of just a side offering to satisfy EPA average mileage requirements. Certainly Tesla has started at the top end of the food chain to do so, but their focus is headed toward the larger market ... demonstrating along the way that electric vehicles don't need to be the underpowered laughing stocks they were typically portrayed as. >> >> Dave AB7E >> >> >> >> On 10/6/2015 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >>> As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be partially covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?) >>> >>> Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that elusive next charging station. >>> >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Dream on Wayne,
Here is the past running like hell to catch up. Like a tandem bike on steroids. Volkswagen (VW) 1 Litre Car - Blue Motion - 285 MPG | | | | | | | | | Volkswagen (VW) 1 Litre Car - Blue Motion - 285 MPGThe Volkswagen (VW) 1 Litre Car takes their Blue Motion (BlueMotion) eco brand to the highest levels and achieves 285 mpg or 0.99 litres of fuel consumed per 100 km. (Volkswagen Engineering - Germany) | | | | View on theirearth.com | Preview by Yahoo | | | | | Mel, K6KBE From: Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> To: David Gilbert <[hidden email]> Cc: [hidden email] Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S Dave, It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge supporter of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous. Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:10 AM, David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote: > > That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company that has arguably done more to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream than any other. Other companies may have higher volume and lower cost models out there, but Tesla is the first one with the conviction to prove it can be successful as a standalone business instead of just a side offering to satisfy EPA average mileage requirements. Certainly Tesla has started at the top end of the food chain to do so, but their focus is headed toward the larger market ... demonstrating along the way that electric vehicles don't need to be the underpowered laughing stocks they were typically portrayed as. > > Dave AB7E > > > > On 10/6/2015 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >> >> As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be partially covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?) >> >> Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that elusive next charging station. >> >> Wayne >> N6KR >> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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From a practical perspective, the "battery with onboard generator" of the Chevrolet Volt is far more practical (and has been around for a very long time as the diesel-electric locomotive). It a real shame that the Volt is out of the price range of ordinary consumers as charge at home with gasoline (or diesel) for long distance range extension is clearly more practical than the limited battery only range of either Tesla or the Nissan Leaf. I only wish that my father had the ability to follow up on his concept for the diesel-electric automobile 50 years ago. Unfortunately neither energy storage (battery technology) nor environmental concerns where as well developed then as they are today. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 10/6/2015 2:15 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: > Dave, > > It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge supporter of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous. > > Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR > > > On Oct 6, 2015, at 11:10 AM, David Gilbert <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> >> That seems like a pretty mean-spirited snipe at a company that has arguably done more to bring electric vehicles into the mainstream than any other. Other companies may have higher volume and lower cost models out there, but Tesla is the first one with the conviction to prove it can be successful as a standalone business instead of just a side offering to satisfy EPA average mileage requirements. Certainly Tesla has started at the top end of the food chain to do so, but their focus is headed toward the larger market ... demonstrating along the way that electric vehicles don't need to be the underpowered laughing stocks they were typically portrayed as. >> >> Dave AB7E >> >> >> >> On 10/6/2015 10:41 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote: >>> >>> As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be partially covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?) >>> >>> Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that elusive next charging station. >>> >>> Wayne >>> N6KR >>> > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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my prius c is fine,, thank you
Bob K3DJC On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 11:15:49 -0700 Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> writes: > Dave, > > It was entirely tongue-in-cheek. See my followup posting. I'm a huge > supporter of E-cars in general. I'm just jealous. > > Wayne ("off-topic"), N6KR > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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First, I've been intrigued by electric powered vehicles for a long time. I
came very close to buying a Jet Electrica (?) Ford Escort conversion back in the 1980s and have also followed the "homebrew" versions in Home Power mag. However, I'm not a big fan of using tax dollars to promote a particular technology. A better way IMHO would be to get private venture capital behind some of the engineering students who've been involved in Sunrayce (AKA American Solar Challenge) and just get out of the way to see what they can come up with. (Like Wayne and Eric back in the NorCal days?) Also, while Tesla apparently has licked some of the issues, other manufacturers have not. I've only personally seen a few of a well-known US auto manufacturer's recent attempt at an EV. Both of the following were on the interstate: in one case where the terrain is fairly level (at least for western Arkansas) the vehicle was in the right lane running somewhat below the speed limit. In the other case, the vehicle was on the long grade going up the hill to the tunnel (yes, we have a tunnel through the top of a mountain in NW Arkansas!) It was in the right hand lane with its flashers on and was running slower than a lot of the 18 wheelers on that stretch. The expression on the driver's face was very revealing: I'll just say that he didn't appear to be a... ummm... "happy camper...." Just my $0.02 worth. 73, Al On Tue October 6 2015 1:17:30 pm jim wrote: > And the other side: > > Our columnist Bret Stephens writes that at the President's Friday press > conference, Mr. Obama described alternatives to his Syria policy as > "mumbo-jumbo," "half-baked ideas," and "as-if" solutions. "So it is with > this president. It's not enough for him to stake and defend his positions. > He wants you to know that he thinks deeper, sees further, knows better, > operates from a purer motive. His preferred method for dealing with > disagreement is denigration," > > Jim > W6AIM > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick > Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:01 AM > To: mfsj > Cc: Barry; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S > > IMHO the current Tesla is a transitional vehicle on the way to inexpensive > cars powered by graphene ultra capacitors instead of Li-ion batteries. > POTUS see the future and is moving things along in that direction :) > > Wayne > > On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:56 AM, mfsj <[hidden email]> wrote: > > But the POTUS gives rebates to the buyers and backing to the CO. > > > > Fred N0AZZ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Al I agree nothing going to replace my diesel 4x4's in my life time electric that will do the work they do. We have 4 4x4's for work and DD trucks and SUV's would not exchange any for electric if it was free.
Fred N0AZZ Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone-------- Original message --------From: Al Gulseth <[hidden email]> Date: 10/06/2015 3:12 PM (GMT-06:00) To: [hidden email] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S First, I've been intrigued by electric powered vehicles for a long time. I came very close to buying a Jet Electrica (?) Ford Escort conversion back in the 1980s and have also followed the "homebrew" versions in Home Power mag. However, I'm not a big fan of using tax dollars to promote a particular technology. A better way IMHO would be to get private venture capital behind some of the engineering students who've been involved in Sunrayce (AKA American Solar Challenge) and just get out of the way to see what they can come up with. (Like Wayne and Eric back in the NorCal days?) Also, while Tesla apparently has licked some of the issues, other manufacturers have not. I've only personally seen a few of a well-known US auto manufacturer's recent attempt at an EV. Both of the following were on the interstate: in one case where the terrain is fairly level (at least for western Arkansas) the vehicle was in the right lane running somewhat below the speed limit. In the other case, the vehicle was on the long grade going up the hill to the tunnel (yes, we have a tunnel through the top of a mountain in NW Arkansas!) It was in the right hand lane with its flashers on and was running slower than a lot of the 18 wheelers on that stretch. The expression on the driver's face was very revealing: I'll just say that he didn't appear to be a... ummm... "happy camper...." Just my $0.02 worth. 73, Al On Tue October 6 2015 1:17:30 pm jim wrote: > And the other side: > > Our columnist Bret Stephens writes that at the President's Friday press > conference, Mr. Obama described alternatives to his Syria policy as > "mumbo-jumbo," "half-baked ideas," and "as-if" solutions. "So it is with > this president. It's not enough for him to stake and defend his positions. > He wants you to know that he thinks deeper, sees further, knows better, > operates from a purer motive. His preferred method for dealing with > disagreement is denigration," > > Jim > W6AIM > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick > Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2015 11:01 AM > To: mfsj > Cc: Barry; [hidden email] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: VHF radio in Tesla Model S > > IMHO the current Tesla is a transitional vehicle on the way to inexpensive > cars powered by graphene ultra capacitors instead of Li-ion batteries. > POTUS see the future and is moving things along in that direction :) > > Wayne > > On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:56 AM, mfsj <[hidden email]> wrote: > > But the POTUS gives rebates to the buyers and backing to the CO. > > > > Fred N0AZZ > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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My Prius is great, too :-)
Phil -- Sent from my iPhone 5S > On Oct 6, 2015, at 13:03, <[hidden email]> <[hidden email]> wrote: > > my prius c is fine,, thank you > > Bob K3DJC > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I have 2M and 1.2GHz radios in my Model S. They work fine with no
detectable RFI in either direction. I have a no-holes installation, which is sub-optimal but I couldn't bear the thought of drilling into this expensive but totally awesome vehicle. 73, /Rick N6XI On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Barry <[hidden email]> wrote: > My apologies for starting this thread. I had no idea it would take such a > perverse turn from a simple question. > > Barry W2UP > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/OT-VHF-radio-in-Tesla-Model-S-tp7608742p7608767.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > -- Rick Tavan N6XI Truckee, CA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Tesla? No,No,No!! Its got to be a Charger like the Dukes used to drive. V-8 hemi. If it gets more than 10 miles to the gallon, it is underpowered. If you don't put more than 5000 miles a year on the thing, you can easily afford the fuel cost.
You like electrics? Go to any golf course. They already have lots of neat electric carts. On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:41:48 -0700 Wayne Burdick <[hidden email]> wrote: > Neither Elecraft co-owner has a Tesla, nor are we likely to get them anytime soon, speaking strictly for both of us. I drive a very pragmatic Honda CRV and am coveting a Prius V for its better gas mileage. I prefer not to drive at all, actually. I have a hybrid mountain bike that runs on the equivalent of approx. 0.5 McChicken sandwiches per hour. > > As for any engineer rumored to own a Tesla: Who am I to comment on whether they should raid their retirement nest-eggs to buy overpriced, overpowered, conspicuously consumptive, middle-age-postponing sports sedans? (Isn't the 'T' for Testosterone, something always in short supply? Might a Tesla be partially covered by the prescription drug clause in one's medical insurance?) > > Finally, regarding the mobile radio: Go for it. Driving a Tesla, you may very well find yourself outside the cellphone network and many miles from that elusive next charging station. > > Wayne > N6KR > > > On Oct 6, 2015, at 9:38 AM, Barry <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > I'm aware of a few Elecraft engineers and owners having a Tesla Model S, > > hence the post. > > > > When I first got my Model S, I had no plans to put a 2m radio in it. Now > > I'm having second thoughts. Wonder if any Model S owners have installed a > > radio? > > > > Feel free to contact me off list at my callsign at arrl.net, if you prefer. > > > > Tnx, > > Barry W2UP > > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] -- bsusb <[hidden email]> ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 10/6/2015 12:41 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
> mileage. I prefer not to drive at all, actually. I have a hybrid > mountain bike that runs on the equivalent of approx. 0.5 McChicken > sandwiches per hour. When I read that, I just about spewed coffee all over my keyboard and my KX3. Thankfully, I didn't. Note to self: move KX3 out of the coffee blast radius. While I don't ride a mountain bike anymore, I do try to walk regularly. I'd give my fuel efficiency rating in Oreo cookies per hour, hahahahahaha! thanks much and 73, ben, kd5byb ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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