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Bill Frantz

Re: Reaching across the chronological divide

My son has a general license. He uses it mostly as part of his
search and rescue team. Really he doesn't have time to play
radio with a high-tension job, a wife, and a 6 year old.

Our club has some interesting new members:

Two women in their early 40s, newly licensed at the extra
level. They ran
our digital operation at field day all night. We might see
more of them,
but they are trying to get a high-tech startup off the ground.

A father/daughter combo. The daughter is barely a teenager if
at all but
has a license. So does the father.

I see a lot of older people getting licenses as part of their
interest in community service.

The take home observation is that people today don't have much
free time. There is tremendous contention for what free time
there is. Getting on the air needs to pop to the top of the list
before we have a new, active ham.

Any radio designed to attract new people to ham radio should
recognize that getting a higher level license is a challange
which will only be met by someone already motivated. The tech
level license doesn't help attract people to what most of us
consider ham radio -- HF. Learning CW requires a lot of
motivation, and the only non-CW available in HF is 10M SSB --
Not the best band a the bottom of a sunspot cycle.

Some of the ARRL suggestions for opening some HF to tech digital
operation would go a long way toward solving these problems. But
in the current environment, to come out with a radio that
supports 10M but only does FM, is something only a company not
thinking about the US licensing structure could do. (And yes, I
have a specific radio company in mind.)

As a side note, I became interested in operating, as compared
with building equipment, because I discovered that PSK31 was a
lot like the computer chat systems I had used. They were already
comfortable, so the only barriers were the radio problems, which
I had a good background in solving. (I have since branched out
into CW and voice, but digital is still my home territory.)

73 Bill AE6JV, who hasn't been on the air since moving into a
retirement home.

On 12/14/19 at 11:12 AM, [hidden email] (W0MU Mike Fatchett) wrote:

>I am not sure how you sell Ham Radio to people today. I have
>two sons and a daughter. One son got licensed really young
>and did some contests and mobile activities with me but never
>got hooked like I did. People have less free time than ever
>and there are more options for entertainment than ever.
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David Gilbert

Re: Operating from a retirement home

Bill, if you want to get in at least some ham radio action you might
consider using TeamViewer (free for private use) to link up with a
friend who trusts you and is willing to let you tap into his station to
operate FT8 via the internet. QST had a recent article on it and it's
pretty simple to set up. I have a friend who is stuck in a condo and he
has used my station several times to make contacts all over the world
that way.

It's not the same as chatting with some interesting DX, but it's not a
whole lot different than what passes for most DX contacts. You could
even operate one of the FT8/4 contests that way without being at much of
a disadvantage.

73,
Dave AB7E

On 12/15/2019 4:52 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
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> 73 Bill AE6JV, who hasn't been on the air since moving into a
> retirement home.
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Re: Operating from a retirement home

Another option to consider with "retirement home" operating is what I've been doing:
I use a KX3 feeding an AlexLoop (small magnetic loop) set up in our bedroom to check into a local 10 meter net. Works quite well.The same setup also had me working a DX station in Moldova... during a RTTY contest. I used the KX3's built in RTTY feature for that QSO. Oh... and I was running 3 watts on 40 meters. And that was with the AlexLoop set up in our sun room.
So... it can be done.
73 de RayK2ULRKX3 #211

-----Original Message-----
From: David Gilbert <[hidden email]>
To: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]>; elecraft <[hidden email]>
Sent: Sun, Dec 15, 2019 7:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

Bill, if you want to get in at least some ham radio action you might
consider using TeamViewer (free for private use) to link up with a
friend who trusts you and is willing to let you tap into his station to
operate FT8 via the internet. QST had a recent article on it and it's
pretty simple to set up. I have a friend who is stuck in a condo and he
has used my station several times to make contacts all over the world
that way.

It's not the same as chatting with some interesting DX, but it's not a
whole lot different than what passes for most DX contacts. You could
even operate one of the FT8/4 contests that way without being at much of
a disadvantage.

73,
Dave AB7E

On 12/15/2019 4:52 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
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> 73 Bill AE6JV, who hasn't been on the air since moving into a
> retirement home.
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N4ZR

Re: Operating from a retirement home

A spectacular example of how to do this right has been set by PVRCers at
the Collington Continuing-Care retirement community in Prince George's
County MD. See the QRZ lookup for K3CCR. These 5 guys have
demonstrated what can be done, and they're doing it most every weekend.

73, Pete N4ZR
Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
For spots, please use your favorite
"retail" DX cluster.

On 12/15/2019 9:02 PM, Raymond Sills via Elecraft wrote:

> Another option to consider with "retirement home" operating is what I've been doing:
> I use a KX3 feeding an AlexLoop (small magnetic loop) set up in our bedroom to check into a local 10 meter net. Works quite well.The same setup also had me working a DX station in Moldova... during a RTTY contest. I used the KX3's built in RTTY feature for that QSO. Oh... and I was running 3 watts on 40 meters. And that was with the AlexLoop set up in our sun room.
> So... it can be done.
> 73 de RayK2ULRKX3 #211
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Gilbert <[hidden email]>
> To: Bill Frantz <[hidden email]>; elecraft <[hidden email]>
> Sent: Sun, Dec 15, 2019 7:17 pm
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home
>
>
> Bill, if you want to get in at least some ham radio action you might
> consider using TeamViewer (free for private use) to link up with a
> friend who trusts you and is willing to let you tap into his station to
> operate FT8 via the internet. QST had a recent article on it and it's
> pretty simple to set up. I have a friend who is stuck in a condo and he
> has used my station several times to make contacts all over the world
> that way.
>
> It's not the same as chatting with some interesting DX, but it's not a
> whole lot different than what passes for most DX contacts. You could
> even operate one of the FT8/4 contests that way without being at much of
> a disadvantage.
>
> 73,
> Dave AB7E
>
>
> On 12/15/2019 4:52 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
>> 73 Bill AE6JV, who hasn't been on the air since moving into a
>> retirement home.
>>
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David Gilbert

Re: Operating from a retirement home

That's impressive, but Collington is a full blown retirement community,
like Sun City here in Arizona. It's not even close to being practical
to do anything similar for the typical retirement home. On the other
hand, a small laptop with a TeamViewer link to a distant club station
running FT8 would put anyone anywhere on the air ... with the added
benefit that FT8/4 doesn't require good hearing or manual dexterity.

JS8, an offshoot of FT8, is even a bit more of a conversational mode.
I've never used it and it doesn't have anything close to the acceptance
that some people have touted it to have, but PSK Reporter does show it
being moderately popular.

73,
Dave AB7E

On 12/16/2019 9:57 AM, N4ZR wrote:

> A spectacular example of how to do this right has been set by PVRCers
> at the Collington Continuing-Care retirement community in Prince
> George's County MD. See the QRZ lookup for K3CCR. These 5 guys have
> demonstrated what can be done, and they're doing it most every weekend.
>
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network
> at <http://reversebeacon.net>, now
> spotting RTTY activity worldwide.
> For spots, please use your favorite
> "retail" DX cluster.

Steven G. Steltzer

Re: Operating from a retirement home

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CW ops have another option for retirement homes / severe HOA restrictions . Search iCW on the web.

73,
Steve , WF3T
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Steven G. Steltzer

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CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely restricted HOA's . Search iCW on the web.

73,
Steve, WF3T
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Kjeld Holm

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In restricted areas I have had good results with a short vertical dipole for 10-20M like
http://mojero.wixsite.com/twantenna/products

Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld

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Re: Operating from a retirement home

Goes to show the old maxim: GET ON THE AIR is still true. There is always someone listening and hoping for a contact. Dead bands? NOT! Just weaker signals. It always amazes me that when the bands seem dead there are always signals on the digital frequencies. I am not knocking the digital modes (I have recently crossed over and used FT8..... boring for me but that JS8Call looks a little better) but if each of those pursuing the digital modes would put out the same signal on CW or even SSB they would be heard and probably make a contact. Leave a receiver in the background on using the beacon frequency of your band of interest...... DON’T look at the poor band conditions indicators. They are too discouraging.

Just my opinion. Hope to hear you all on from Florida while we are there avoiding the snow. Am packing my building stuff so I can finally get my three QCX’s built this winter. Thank you Hans and QRP Labs.

David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 4:52 AM, Kjeld Holm <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> In restricted areas I have had good results with a short vertical dipole for 10-20M like
> http://mojero.wixsite.com/twantenna/products
>
>
>
> Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld
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Re: Operating from a retirement home

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Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to recover from some issue or permanently moves into an assisted living home we try to set up a ham station in that hams room. The homes in our area are very understanding. I already have chosen the place I want to go to if and when the time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the facility. My wife and I built our retirement home barrier free and she is a younger nurse so I hope to be able to play radio at home. But she can be a tyrant making me do all the things a doctor or rehab specialist might recommend. I guess there are trade offs in every situation. Hi!

David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Steven G. Steltzer <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely restricted HOA's . Search iCW on the web.
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> 73,
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WW3S

Re: Operating from a retirement home

I feel your pain !
(Speaking from experience)

The good thing about my wife is she is a nurse as well.....
The bad thing about my wife is.....she is a nurse !

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:25 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to recover from some issue or permanently moves into an assisted living home we try to set up a ham station in that hams room. The homes in our area are very understanding. I already have chosen the place I want to go to if and when the time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the facility. My wife and I built our retirement home barrier free and she is a younger nurse so I hope to be able to play radio at home. But she can be a tyrant making me do all the things a doctor or rehab specialist might recommend. I guess there are trade offs in every situation. Hi!
>
> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
>
>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Steven G. Steltzer <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely restricted HOA's . Search iCW on the web.
>>
>> 73,
>> Steve, WF3T
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Re: Operating from a retirement home

Ha! That's a good one. And so true.

David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad

> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:27 AM, WW3S <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I feel your pain !
> (Speaking from experience)
>
> The good thing about my wife is she is a nurse as well.....
> The bad thing about my wife is.....she is a nurse !
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:25 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to recover from some issue or permanently moves into an assisted living home we try to set up a ham station in that hams room. The homes in our area are very understanding. I already have chosen the place I want to go to if and when the time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the facility. My wife and I built our retirement home barrier free and she is a younger nurse so I hope to be able to play radio at home. But she can be a tyrant making me do all the things a doctor or rehab specialist might recommend. I guess there are trade offs in every situation. Hi!
>>
>> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
>>
>>>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Steven G. Steltzer <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely restricted HOA's . Search iCW on the web.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Steve, WF3T
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KE8G-2

Re: Operating from a retirement home

Yes, my wife is also a retired nurse and every time I go to the doctor's
office and he tells me I need to do "something", she is shacking her head
in the affirmative and I know I will not be a happy camper! Example...
cardiologist says no luncheon meats, I LOVE luncheon meats, but haven't had
any for the last 10 years!!

73 de Jim - KE8G

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:51 AM David Wilcox via Elecraft <
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> Ha! That's a good one. And so true.
>
> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
>
> > On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:27 AM, WW3S <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> > I feel your pain !
> > (Speaking from experience)
> >
> > The good thing about my wife is she is a nurse as well.....
> > The bad thing about my wife is.....she is a nurse !
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:25 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to
> recover from some issue or permanently moves into an assisted living home
> we try to set up a ham station in that hams room. The homes in our area
> are very understanding. I already have chosen the place I want to go to if
> and when the time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the
> facility. My wife and I built our retirement home barrier free and she is
> a younger nurse so I hope to be able to play radio at home. But she can be
> a tyrant making me do all the things a doctor or rehab specialist might
> recommend. I guess there are trade offs in every situation. Hi!
> >>
> >> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
> >>
> >>>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Steven G. Steltzer <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely
> restricted HOA's . Search iCW on the web.
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Steve, WF3T
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Michael Walker

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She is correct on luncheon meats.

Big Mac, Any Egg and Meat sandwich and most prepared foods have about 900mg
of Sodium and I bet your dailing limit is about 1500mg (for Canadians, that
means all Tim's breakfast sandwiches). Don't forget hotdogs and sausages
are off the list too. They use a lot of Brine. As my wife and I did the
Sodium research the Big Mac was about the 'best' of the worst. No more
pizza or just about any Mall food.

Eggs are great!

Your own safe way out is to prepare your own with plain meets like Turkey,
etc. Welcome to getting old-er. :)

Mike

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 9:21 AM KE8G <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yes, my wife is also a retired nurse and every time I go to the doctor's
> office and he tells me I need to do "something", she is shacking her head
> in the affirmative and I know I will not be a happy camper! Example...
> cardiologist says no luncheon meats, I LOVE luncheon meats, but haven't had
> any for the last 10 years!!
>
> 73 de Jim - KE8G
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:51 AM David Wilcox via Elecraft <
> [hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Ha! That's a good one. And so true.
> >
> > David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
> >
> > > On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:27 AM, WW3S <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I feel your pain !
> > > (Speaking from experience)
> > >
> > > The good thing about my wife is she is a nurse as well.....
> > > The bad thing about my wife is.....she is a nurse !
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > >> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:25 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft <
> > [hidden email]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to
> > recover from some issue or permanently moves into an assisted living
> home
> > we try to set up a ham station in that hams room. The homes in our area
> > are very understanding. I already have chosen the place I want to go to
> if
> > and when the time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the
> > facility. My wife and I built our retirement home barrier free and she
> is
> > a younger nurse so I hope to be able to play radio at home. But she can
> be
> > a tyrant making me do all the things a doctor or rehab specialist might
> > recommend. I guess there are trade offs in every situation. Hi!
> > >>
> > >> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
> > >>
> > >>>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Steven G. Steltzer <[hidden email]>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely
> > restricted HOA's . Search iCW on the web.
> > >>>
> > >>> 73,
> > >>> Steve, WF3T
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WW3S

Re: Operating from a retirement home

all you health nuts will be surprised to find you die from nothing
someday.....
as for me, I hope I'm shot in the back by a jealous husband as I'm
crawling out some blondes bedroom window.....

------ Original Message ------
From: "Michael Walker" <[hidden email]>
To: "KE8G" <[hidden email]>
Cc: "Steven G. Steltzer" <[hidden email]>; "Elecraft"
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Sent: 12/17/2019 9:45:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

>She is correct on luncheon meats.
>
>Big Mac, Any Egg and Meat sandwich and most prepared foods have about 900mg
>of Sodium and I bet your dailing limit is about 1500mg (for Canadians, that
>means all Tim's breakfast sandwiches). Don't forget hotdogs and sausages
>are off the list too. They use a lot of Brine. As my wife and I did the
>Sodium research the Big Mac was about the 'best' of the worst. No more
>pizza or just about any Mall food.
>
>Eggs are great!
>
>Your own safe way out is to prepare your own with plain meets like Turkey,
>etc. Welcome to getting old-er. :)
>
>Mike
>
>
>On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 9:21 AM KE8G <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Yes, my wife is also a retired nurse and every time I go to the doctor's
>> office and he tells me I need to do "something", she is shacking her head
>> in the affirmative and I know I will not be a happy camper! Example...
>> cardiologist says no luncheon meats, I LOVE luncheon meats, but haven't had
>> any for the last 10 years!!
>>
>> 73 de Jim - KE8G
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:51 AM David Wilcox via Elecraft <
>>[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> > Ha! That's a good one. And so true.
>> >
>> > David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
>> >
>> > > On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:27 AM, WW3S <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I feel your pain !
>> > > (Speaking from experience)
>> > >
>> > > The good thing about my wife is she is a nurse as well.....
>> > > The bad thing about my wife is.....she is a nurse !
>> > >
>> > > Sent from my iPad
>> > >
>> > >> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:25 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft <
>> > [hidden email]> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to
>> > recover from some issue or permanently moves into an assisted living
>> home
>> > we try to set up a ham station in that hams room. The homes in our area
>> > are very understanding. I already have chosen the place I want to go to
>> if
>> > and when the time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the
>> > facility. My wife and I built our retirement home barrier free and she
>> is
>> > a younger nurse so I hope to be able to play radio at home. But she can
>> be
>> > a tyrant making me do all the things a doctor or rehab specialist might
>> > recommend. I guess there are trade offs in every situation. Hi!
>> > >>
>> > >> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
>> > >>
>> > >>>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Steven G. Steltzer <[hidden email]>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely
>> > restricted HOA's . Search iCW on the web.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 73,
>> > >>> Steve, WF3T
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Re: Operating from a retirement home

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We can die with a happy stomach or die with a unhappy stomach. Life is simply too short to be unhappy for any reason.

Bob, K4TAX

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> On Dec 17, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Michael Walker <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> She is correct on luncheon meats.
>
> Big Mac, Any Egg and Meat sandwich and most prepared foods have about 900mg
> of Sodium and I bet your dailing limit is about 1500mg (for Canadians, that
> means all Tim's breakfast sandwiches). Don't forget hotdogs and sausages
> are off the list too. They use a lot of Brine. As my wife and I did the
> Sodium research the Big Mac was about the 'best' of the worst. No more
> pizza or just about any Mall food.
>
> Eggs are great!
>
> Your own safe way out is to prepare your own with plain meets like Turkey,
> etc. Welcome to getting old-er. :)
>
> Mike
>
>
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 9:21 AM KE8G <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, my wife is also a retired nurse and every time I go to the doctor's
>> office and he tells me I need to do "something", she is shacking her head
>> in the affirmative and I know I will not be a happy camper! Example...
>> cardiologist says no luncheon meats, I LOVE luncheon meats, but haven't had
>> any for the last 10 years!!
>>
>> 73 de Jim - KE8G
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 5:51 AM David Wilcox via Elecraft <
>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> Ha! That's a good one. And so true.
>>>
>>> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
>>>
>>>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:27 AM, WW3S <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I feel your pain !
>>>> (Speaking from experience)
>>>>
>>>> The good thing about my wife is she is a nurse as well.....
>>>> The bad thing about my wife is.....she is a nurse !
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 5:25 AM, David Wilcox via Elecraft <
>>> [hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Whenever one of our radio club seniors has to enter a nursing home to
>>> recover from some issue or permanently moves into an assisted living
>> home
>>> we try to set up a ham station in that hams room. The homes in our area
>>> are very understanding. I already have chosen the place I want to go to
>> if
>>> and when the time comes. They have a woods with tall trees behind the
>>> facility. My wife and I built our retirement home barrier free and she
>> is
>>> a younger nurse so I hope to be able to play radio at home. But she can
>> be
>>> a tyrant making me do all the things a doctor or rehab specialist might
>>> recommend. I guess there are trade offs in every situation. Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>> David J. Wilcox K8WPE’s iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 17, 2019, at 3:47 AM, Steven G. Steltzer <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CW ops have another option for retirement homes or severely
>>> restricted HOA's . Search iCW on the web.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Steve, WF3T
>>>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>>> Elecraft mailing list
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Bill Levy

Re: Operating from a retirement home

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A laptop, an iPad or iPhone will allow you to ham all you want.
Let other folks worry about the antennas and maintenance.

www.remotehamradio.com

I live in an apartment in NYC and I have huge towers with stacked antennas,
160mm 4 squares, 80 meter 4 squares located on the East Coast and the West
Coast.

Are you renting the space in your retirement home? Why not rent your radio
too!

This is such a simple solution I don't know why everyone isn't doing it.
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Wes Stewart-2

Re: Operating from a retirement home

I hope you're joking. If not, why not give up the ham ticket too and just stick
to the iPhone?

Wes N7WS

On 12/17/2019 11:41 AM, William Levy wrote:

> A laptop, an iPad or iPhone will allow you to ham all you want.
> Let other folks worry about the antennas and maintenance.
>
> www.remotehamradio.com
>
> I live in an apartment in NYC and I have huge towers with stacked antennas,
> 160mm 4 squares, 80 meter 4 squares located on the East Coast and the West
> Coast.
>
> Are you renting the space in your retirement home? Why not rent your radio
> too!
>
> This is such a simple solution I don't know why everyone isn't doing it.

na5n

Re: Operating from a retirement home

In reply to this post by Bill Levy

About 20 years ago, I used to QSO a fella near Seattle in a nursing home on
40M. He'd call CQ 2300-2400 my local time. He was using an SGC 2020 when
they first came out, but forget what he was using as an antenna. He had
Parkinson's disease and was nearly blind and deaf and could no longer watch
the news on TV. So much of our QSO was filling him in on the day's news.
Kinda fun for me, actually. CW was about all he had left to communicate.
There were times he had a small audience of nurses watching us "talk." He
was an old maritime radio op and in spite of his Parkinson's, worked his
old bug at 25 wpm like a pro. I looked forward to our 15-20 minute QSOs
2-3 times a week, realizing CW and ham radio was his only life line to the
world. So kudos to the nursing home that accommodated his ham radio.

Sadly, one day his CQs stopped.

72, Paul NA5N
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Re: Operating from a retirement home

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What's next? Rent-a-girlfriend? Oh, wait... they already have that. Come to think of it, you make a good point about lower maintenance 😊

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 1:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Operating from a retirement home

A laptop, an iPad or iPhone will allow you to ham all you want.
Let other folks worry about the antennas and maintenance.

www.remotehamradio.com

I live in an apartment in NYC and I have huge towers with stacked antennas, 160mm 4 squares, 80 meter 4 squares located on the East Coast and the West Coast.

Are you renting the space in your retirement home? Why not rent your radio too!

This is such a simple solution I don't know why everyone isn't doing it.
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