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Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft (or somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to check to ensure an item is not stolen.

Is there such a thing?

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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Matt Zilmer-3
I'm sure the company knows, and has a record of, the original
buyer-owner in a database.  But that doesn't help when the original
owner sells his KX3.

I've been thinking on this too.  I feel Jerry's pain.  It's pretty
rough.

73!
matt
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On Mon, 18 May 2015 00:54:19 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:

>Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft (or somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to check to ensure an item is not stolen.
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>Is there such a thing?
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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Ken G Kopp
It doesn't help the anger but at least insurance will cover the loss ...
mine (Allstate) would, anyway.

73

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On May 17, 2015 6:59 PM, "Matt Zilmer" <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I'm sure the company knows, and has a record of, the original
> buyer-owner in a database.  But that doesn't help when the original
> owner sells his KX3.
>
> I've been thinking on this too.  I feel Jerry's pain.  It's pretty
> rough.
>
> 73!
> matt
> W6NIA
>
> On Mon, 18 May 2015 00:54:19 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:
>
> >Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft (or
> somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to check to
> ensure an item is not stolen.
> >
> >Is there such a thing?
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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

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In a recent message, Harry Yingst via Elecraft
<[hidden email]> writes
>Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft
>(or somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to
>check to ensure an item is not stolen.
>
>Is there such a thing?

Yes, Harry, the unofficial database of Elecraft equipment is at
http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/elowners.html

However, the database is somewhat incomplete, lots of Elecraft owners
not having entered their details. It is nevertheless a useful record
enabling one to check ones own records and look at some others.

73 de David G4DMP

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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Dominic Baines-3
Wouldn't it be nice (function add perhaps?) so that when you power it on
it asked for a code (you use the buttons on the front) and you don't
have to set one... it will ask on power up for it, get 3 goes, then it
remains locked... to 'unlock' you have to contact Elecraft? That would
also ensure the database at Elecraft is a bit more up to date too.

It seems to be common place function with tablets and mobile phones so
why not a $1k portable radio?

I am sure some might see the problems but I'm sure if even one unit were
returned to the rightful owner because of it then it might be worth it?
And if it stops the toe rags nicking one :-)

72

Dom
M1KTA


On 18/05/15 09:32, David Pratt wrote:

> In a recent message, Harry Yingst via Elecraft
> <[hidden email]> writes
>> Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft
>> (or somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to
>> check to ensure an item is not stolen.
>>
>> Is there such a thing?
> Yes, Harry, the unofficial database of Elecraft equipment is at
> http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/elowners.html
>
> However, the database is somewhat incomplete, lots of Elecraft owners
> not having entered their details. It is nevertheless a useful record
> enabling one to check ones own records and look at some others.
>
> 73 de David G4DMP
>

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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Chester Alderman
Hi Dom,

In my opinion, NO! We have a pass word for just about everything now days
and adding one for ham radio gear is not needed! If one carries their radio
around with them, perhaps they need to be more responsible in making sure it
is not left in an attractive area where it can get stolen. You have some
700,000 hams that do not carry their radios with them, so why punish the
majority in an attempt to protect the minority of folks who do carry their
radio out with them?

Good suggestion but maybe needs some more thought of the overall impact?

73,
Tom - W4BQF


-----Original Message-----
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Dominic Baines
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:24 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Wouldn't it be nice (function add perhaps?) so that when you power it on it
asked for a code (you use the buttons on the front) and you don't have to
set one... it will ask on power up for it, get 3 goes, then it remains
locked... to 'unlock' you have to contact Elecraft? That would also ensure
the database at Elecraft is a bit more up to date too.

It seems to be common place function with tablets and mobile phones so why
not a $1k portable radio?

I am sure some might see the problems but I'm sure if even one unit were
returned to the rightful owner because of it then it might be worth it?
And if it stops the toe rags nicking one :-)

72

Dom
M1KTA


On 18/05/15 09:32, David Pratt wrote:

> In a recent message, Harry Yingst via Elecraft
> <[hidden email]> writes
>> Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft
>> (or somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to
>> check to ensure an item is not stolen.
>>
>> Is there such a thing?
> Yes, Harry, the unofficial database of Elecraft equipment is at
> http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/elowners.html
>
> However, the database is somewhat incomplete, lots of Elecraft owners
> not having entered their details. It is nevertheless a useful record
> enabling one to check ones own records and look at some others.
>
> 73 de David G4DMP
>

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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Brian Murrey
They can make the password protection optional in firmware.  Users that
want it, can use it, users that don't want it, can leave it disabled.

Would that be better?



On 5/18/2015 7:37 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:

> Hi Dom,
>
> In my opinion, NO! We have a pass word for just about everything now days
> and adding one for ham radio gear is not needed! If one carries their radio
> around with them, perhaps they need to be more responsible in making sure it
> is not left in an attractive area where it can get stolen. You have some
> 700,000 hams that do not carry their radios with them, so why punish the
> majority in an attempt to protect the minority of folks who do carry their
> radio out with them?
>
> Good suggestion but maybe needs some more thought of the overall impact?
>
> 73,
> Tom - W4BQF
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Dominic Baines
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:24 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear
>
> Wouldn't it be nice (function add perhaps?) so that when you power it on it
> asked for a code (you use the buttons on the front) and you don't have to
> set one... it will ask on power up for it, get 3 goes, then it remains
> locked... to 'unlock' you have to contact Elecraft? That would also ensure
> the database at Elecraft is a bit more up to date too.
>
> It seems to be common place function with tablets and mobile phones so why
> not a $1k portable radio?
>
> I am sure some might see the problems but I'm sure if even one unit were
> returned to the rightful owner because of it then it might be worth it?
> And if it stops the toe rags nicking one :-)
>
> 72
>
> Dom
> M1KTA
>
>
> On 18/05/15 09:32, David Pratt wrote:
>> In a recent message, Harry Yingst via Elecraft
>> <[hidden email]> writes
>>> Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft
>>> (or somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to
>>> check to ensure an item is not stolen.
>>>
>>> Is there such a thing?
>> Yes, Harry, the unofficial database of Elecraft equipment is at
>> http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/elowners.html
>>
>> However, the database is somewhat incomplete, lots of Elecraft owners
>> not having entered their details. It is nevertheless a useful record
>> enabling one to check ones own records and look at some others.
>>
>> 73 de David G4DMP
>>
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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

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> On May 18, 2015, at 5:24 AM, Dominic Baines <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Wouldn't it be nice (function add perhaps?) so that when you power it on it asked for a code (you use the buttons on the front) and you don't have to set one... it will ask on power up for it, get 3 goes, then it remains locked... to 'unlock' you have to contact Elecraft? That would also ensure the database at Elecraft is a bit more up to date too.
>
> It seems to be common place function with tablets and mobile phones so why not a $1k portable radio?
>
> I am sure some might see the problems but I'm sure if even one unit were returned to the rightful owner because of it then it might be worth it? And if it stops the toe rags nicking one :-)
>
> 72
>
> Dom
> M1KTA
>
>
>> On 18/05/15 09:32, David Pratt wrote:
>> In a recent message, Harry Yingst via Elecraft
>> <[hidden email]> writes
>>> Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft
>>> (or somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to
>>> check to ensure an item is not stolen.
>>>
>>> Is there such a thing?
>> Yes, Harry, the unofficial database of Elecraft equipment is at
>> http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/elowners.html
>>
>> However, the database is somewhat incomplete, lots of Elecraft owners
>> not having entered their details. It is nevertheless a useful record
>> enabling one to check ones own records and look at some others.
>>
>> 73 de David G4DMP
>>
>
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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

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This is Not a feature I would want, and even if it was an menu item I'd leave it disabled.

The sad truth is that thieves exist, and we need to take strong precautions at times to ensure the security of our stuff before it's stolen.




      From: Dominic Baines <[hidden email]>
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 Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear
   
Wouldn't it be nice (function add perhaps?) so that when you power it on
it asked for a code (you use the buttons on the front) and you don't
have to set one... it will ask on power up for it, get 3 goes, then it
remains locked... to 'unlock' you have to contact Elecraft? That would
also ensure the database at Elecraft is a bit more up to date too.

It seems to be common place function with tablets and mobile phones so
why not a $1k portable radio?

I am sure some might see the problems but I'm sure if even one unit were
returned to the rightful owner because of it then it might be worth it?
And if it stops the toe rags nicking one :-)

72

Dom
M1KTA




On 18/05/15 09:32, David Pratt wrote:

> In a recent message, Harry Yingst via Elecraft
> <[hidden email]> writes
>> Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft
>> (or somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to
>> check to ensure an item is not stolen.
>>
>> Is there such a thing?
> Yes, Harry, the unofficial database of Elecraft equipment is at
> http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/elowners.html
>
> However, the database is somewhat incomplete, lots of Elecraft owners
> not having entered their details. It is nevertheless a useful record
> enabling one to check ones own records and look at some others.
>
> 73 de David G4DMP
>

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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

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>>> They can make the password protection optional in firmware. <<<
Will we need a "Password"  also for common sense?  What did we do before we started injecting a Password into every nook and cranny of our lives?Our lives are already complicated as it is already.
" Keep It Simple Stupid " combine with a little bit of " Common Sense " will deter a dishonest person.
Just my $0.02

((((73)))) Milverton /  W9MMS

      From: Brian <[hidden email]>
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 Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:53 AM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear
   
They can make the password protection optional in firmware.  Users that
want it, can use it, users that don't want it, can leave it disabled.

Would that be better?



On 5/18/2015 7:37 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:

> Hi Dom,
>
> In my opinion, NO! We have a pass word for just about everything now days
> and adding one for ham radio gear is not needed! If one carries their radio
> around with them, perhaps they need to be more responsible in making sure it
> is not left in an attractive area where it can get stolen. You have some
> 700,000 hams that do not carry their radios with them, so why punish the
> majority in an attempt to protect the minority of folks who do carry their
> radio out with them?
>
> Good suggestion but maybe needs some more thought of the overall impact?
>
> 73,
> Tom - W4BQF
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Dominic Baines
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:24 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear
>
> Wouldn't it be nice (function add perhaps?) so that when you power it on it
> asked for a code (you use the buttons on the front) and you don't have to
> set one... it will ask on power up for it, get 3 goes, then it remains
> locked... to 'unlock' you have to contact Elecraft? That would also ensure
> the database at Elecraft is a bit more up to date too.
>
> It seems to be common place function with tablets and mobile phones so why
> not a $1k portable radio?
>
> I am sure some might see the problems but I'm sure if even one unit were
> returned to the rightful owner because of it then it might be worth it?
> And if it stops the toe rags nicking one :-)
>
> 72
>
> Dom
> M1KTA
>
>
> On 18/05/15 09:32, David Pratt wrote:
>> In a recent message, Harry Yingst via Elecraft
>> <[hidden email]> writes
>>> Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft
>>> (or somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to
>>> check to ensure an item is not stolen.
>>>
>>> Is there such a thing?
>> Yes, Harry, the unofficial database of Elecraft equipment is at
>> http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/elowners.html
>>
>> However, the database is somewhat incomplete, lots of Elecraft owners
>> not having entered their details. It is nevertheless a useful record
>> enabling one to check ones own records and look at some others.
>>
>> 73 de David G4DMP
>>
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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Jim Bolit
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Na, password on the power supply would be better.

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From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Brian
Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 4:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

They can make the password protection optional in firmware.  Users that want
it, can use it, users that don't want it, can leave it disabled.

Would that be better?



On 5/18/2015 7:37 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:

> Hi Dom,
>
> In my opinion, NO! We have a pass word for just about everything now
> days and adding one for ham radio gear is not needed! If one carries
> their radio around with them, perhaps they need to be more responsible
> in making sure it is not left in an attractive area where it can get
> stolen. You have some
> 700,000 hams that do not carry their radios with them, so why punish
> the majority in an attempt to protect the minority of folks who do
> carry their radio out with them?
>
> Good suggestion but maybe needs some more thought of the overall impact?
>
> 73,
> Tom - W4BQF
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Elecraft [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of
> Dominic Baines
> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:24 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear
>
> Wouldn't it be nice (function add perhaps?) so that when you power it
> on it asked for a code (you use the buttons on the front) and you
> don't have to set one... it will ask on power up for it, get 3 goes,
> then it remains locked... to 'unlock' you have to contact Elecraft?
> That would also ensure the database at Elecraft is a bit more up to date
too.
>
> It seems to be common place function with tablets and mobile phones so
> why not a $1k portable radio?
>
> I am sure some might see the problems but I'm sure if even one unit
> were returned to the rightful owner because of it then it might be worth
it?

> And if it stops the toe rags nicking one :-)
>
> 72
>
> Dom
> M1KTA
>
>
> On 18/05/15 09:32, David Pratt wrote:
>> In a recent message, Harry Yingst via Elecraft
>> <[hidden email]> writes
>>> Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft
>>> (or somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to
>>> check to ensure an item is not stolen.
>>>
>>> Is there such a thing?
>> Yes, Harry, the unofficial database of Elecraft equipment is at
>> http://www.zerobeat.net/qrp/elowners.html
>>
>> However, the database is somewhat incomplete, lots of Elecraft owners
>> not having entered their details. It is nevertheless a useful record
>> enabling one to check ones own records and look at some others.
>>
>> 73 de David G4DMP
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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Phil Wheeler-2
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Such a feature would not discourage thieves--since
they would not know about it.

Phil W7OX

On 5/18/15 5:41 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:

> This is Not a feature I would want, and even if it was an menu item I'd leave it disabled.
>
> The sad truth is that thieves exist, and we need to take strong precautions at times to ensure the security of our stuff before it's stolen.
>
>
>
>
>        From: Dominic Baines <[hidden email]>
>   To: [hidden email]
>   Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:24 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear
>    
> Wouldn't it be nice (function add perhaps?) so that when you power it on
> it asked for a code (you use the buttons on the front) and you don't
> have to set one... it will ask on power up for it, get 3 goes, then it
> remains locked... to 'unlock' you have to contact Elecraft? That would
> also ensure the database at Elecraft is a bit more up to date too.
>
> It seems to be common place function with tablets and mobile phones so
> why not a $1k portable radio?
>
> I am sure some might see the problems but I'm sure if even one unit were
> returned to the rightful owner because of it then it might be worth it?
> And if it stops the toe rags nicking one :-)
>
> 72
>
> Dom
> M1KTA

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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

David Woolley (E.L)
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On 18/05/15 01:54, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft (or somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to check to ensure an item is not stolen.
>
There are general services that will check serial numbers of electronic
equipment against lost or stolen reports.  http://www.checkmend.com/ is
the one that I have heard of.  It costs USD 3, but I suspect the
clerical time for Elecraft to respond to requests for such checks would
be similar.

(There are associated services that will allow you to record details of
serial numbers and other identifiers (e.g. IMIEs and MAC addresses) in
case items are subsequently lost or stolen.  These services tend to be
free.)

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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Chester Alderman
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Right!! I suspect a thief does not know about 'the' password, so when they
turn the radio on, it is not going to work and they will most likely trash
it! A password does not deter a thief.

Tom - W4BQF


Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Such a feature would not discourage thieves--since they would not know about
it.

Phil W7OX

On 5/18/15 5:41 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
> This is Not a feature I would want, and even if it was an menu item I'd
leave it disabled.
>
> The sad truth is that thieves exist, and we need to take strong
precautions at times to ensure the security of our stuff before it's stolen.

>
>
>
>
>        From: Dominic Baines <[hidden email]>
>   To: [hidden email]
>   Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:24 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear
>    
> Wouldn't it be nice (function add perhaps?) so that when you power it
> on it asked for a code (you use the buttons on the front) and you
> don't have to set one... it will ask on power up for it, get 3 goes,
> then it remains locked... to 'unlock' you have to contact Elecraft?
> That would also ensure the database at Elecraft is a bit more up to date
too.
>
> It seems to be common place function with tablets and mobile phones so
> why not a $1k portable radio?
>
> I am sure some might see the problems but I'm sure if even one unit
> were returned to the rightful owner because of it then it might be worth
it?
> And if it stops the toe rags nicking one :-)
>
> 72
>
> Dom
> M1KTA

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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Guy Olinger K2AV
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That would something to go wrong and screw up the works at field day or a
multi-x contest. KISS in this case.

 73, Guy K2AV

On Monday, May 18, 2015, David Woolley <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On 18/05/15 01:54, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>
>> Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft (or
>> somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to check to
>> ensure an item is not stolen.
>>
>>  There are general services that will check serial numbers of electronic
> equipment against lost or stolen reports.  http://www.checkmend.com/ is
> the one that I have heard of.  It costs USD 3, but I suspect the clerical
> time for Elecraft to respond to requests for such checks would be similar.
>
> (There are associated services that will allow you to record details of
> serial numbers and other identifiers (e.g. IMIEs and MAC addresses) in case
> items are subsequently lost or stolen.  These services tend to be free.)
>
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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Rick Dettinger-3
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If someone attempts a firmware download from a radio that has been reported stolen, it should be possible to help locate the rig through the ISP.

73,
Rick Dettinger  K7MW






On May 18, 2015, at 8:21 AM, Chester Alderman wrote:

> Right!! I suspect a thief does not know about 'the' password, so when they
> turn the radio on, it is not going to work and they will most likely trash
> it! A password does not deter a thief.
>
> Tom - W4BQF
>
>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear
>
> Such a feature would not discourage thieves--since they would not know about
> it.
>
> Phil W7OX
>
> On 5/18/15 5:41 AM, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>> This is Not a feature I would want, and even if it was an menu item I'd
> leave it disabled.
>>
>> The sad truth is that thieves exist, and we need to take strong
> precautions at times to ensure the security of our stuff before it's stolen.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>       From: Dominic Baines <[hidden email]>
>>  To: [hidden email]
>>  Sent: Monday, May 18, 2015 6:24 AM
>>  Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear
>>
>> Wouldn't it be nice (function add perhaps?) so that when you power it
>> on it asked for a code (you use the buttons on the front) and you
>> don't have to set one... it will ask on power up for it, get 3 goes,
>> then it remains locked... to 'unlock' you have to contact Elecraft?
>> That would also ensure the database at Elecraft is a bit more up to date
> too.
>>
>> It seems to be common place function with tablets and mobile phones so
>> why not a $1k portable radio?
>>
>> I am sure some might see the problems but I'm sure if even one unit
>> were returned to the rightful owner because of it then it might be worth
> it?
>> And if it stops the toe rags nicking one :-)
>>
>> 72
>>
>> Dom
>> M1KTA
>
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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Edward R Cole
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Thief doesn't know it takes a password when he steals it.  If he
can't make it run he just tosses it or smashes it.  Didn't cost him
anything. Password would only prevent unauthorized use.

Why not have the radio transmit SOS if no password?  Nah that would
only generate QRM.  I prefer no password or make it an option to chose.

Win8.0 would not install without one - I grumble every time I start
the laptop.  Make a typo start over again.  Three typos in a row and
its disabled - yikes!  Could that occur at the top of the mountain,
temps below zero with numb fingers? I'm not in favor of this idea.

How about a retinal or thumbprint scan and if not passed the GPS
location is transmitted with "I've been stolen" on APRS?  This can
get real crazy.

Best advice is keep radios out of sight when mobile...pretty hard if
at a major hamfest...antennas a big giveaway.

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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Grant Youngman
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> If someone attempts a firmware download from a radio that has been reported stolen, it should be possible to help locate the rig through the ISP.

Firmware downloads don’t have any connection to a serial number.

And a password on a radio? A really terrible idea IMHO.  A better plan is just to not leave something small and valuable sitting out in the open where it can be a quick and painless target of opportunity.

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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

EricJ-2
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I seem to be missing something about using the Elecraft serial number
for identification.

As far as I know all the Elecraft transceivers have a little serial
number sticker that comes in an envelop for the builder to peel and stick.

Can we assume that thieves aren't aware of Goo Gone?

If someone steals your radio, the thief is only partially to blame.

Eric
KE6US



On 5/18/2015 7:55 AM, David Woolley wrote:

> On 18/05/15 01:54, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>> Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft
>> (or somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to
>> check to ensure an item is not stolen.
>>
> There are general services that will check serial numbers of
> electronic equipment against lost or stolen reports.
> http://www.checkmend.com/ is the one that I have heard of.  It costs
> USD 3, but I suspect the clerical time for Elecraft to respond to
> requests for such checks would be similar.
>
> (There are associated services that will allow you to record details
> of serial numbers and other identifiers (e.g. IMIEs and MAC addresses)
> in case items are subsequently lost or stolen. These services tend to
> be free.)
>

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Re: Serial Number Check for Elecraft gear

Warren Merkel
Goo Gone won't clear the serial number burned into the firmware.

On Monday, May 18, 2015, EricJ <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I seem to be missing something about using the Elecraft serial number for
> identification.
>
> As far as I know all the Elecraft transceivers have a little serial number
> sticker that comes in an envelop for the builder to peel and stick.
>
> Can we assume that thieves aren't aware of Goo Gone?
>
> If someone steals your radio, the thief is only partially to blame.
>
> Eric
> KE6US
>
>
>
> On 5/18/2015 7:55 AM, David Woolley wrote:
>
>> On 18/05/15 01:54, Harry Yingst via Elecraft wrote:
>>
>>> Seeing the stolen KX3 Post as me curious as to wondering of Elecraft (or
>>> somewhere else) maintains a list of serial numbers we can use to check to
>>> ensure an item is not stolen.
>>>
>>>  There are general services that will check serial numbers of electronic
>> equipment against lost or stolen reports. http://www.checkmend.com/ is
>> the one that I have heard of.  It costs USD 3, but I suspect the clerical
>> time for Elecraft to respond to requests for such checks would be similar.
>>
>> (There are associated services that will allow you to record details of
>> serial numbers and other identifiers (e.g. IMIEs and MAC addresses) in case
>> items are subsequently lost or stolen. These services tend to be free.)
>>
>>
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