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I took my Tech and Advanced tests in Portland. I think I took the 13WPM
twice before I passed. I also failed my 2nd Class Radiotelephone license (it was free and I didn't study enough and I failed by two questions). I remember the main guy was George Wager, and there was a woman named Sheryl who worked there who was exceptionally attractive. They were all scary, but they were also all very nice. On Wed, 29 Apr 2020, Macy monkeys wrote: > I took my General at the FCC office downtown Portland in the late 60s. The examiner was a tough and gruff staffer named Francis McCann. IMHO, he was extra tough on 14 year olds, hi. You know my heart was racing when that series of V's came through those headphones! > > John K7FD > >> On Apr 29, 2020, at 4:08 PM, John Simmons <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> I took my Extra at the FCC in St Paul somewhere 1985-1987. It was about 6 months before the FCC testing ended. I wanted to get it out of the way before the VE program started. Fear of the unknown, I guess. I worked as a VE early on in the program. I've seen some abuses, but overall I think it is a great change for us hams. >> >> 73, >> -de John NI0K >> >> Fred Jensen wrote on 4/29/2020 4:14 PM: >>> I'm pretty sure it was in the early 80's. >>> >>> 73, >>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW >>> Sparks NV DM09dn >>> Washoe County >>> >>>> On 4/28/2020 9:27 PM, Jim Brown wrote: >>>>> On 4/28/2020 4:16 PM, EricJ wrote: >>>>> but some time in the mid-50s it was given over to volunteer hams. >>>> >>>> My memory is that it was a LOT later than that. I'd guess late '70s to early '80s. >>>> >>>> 73, Jim K9YC >>> >>> ______________________________________________________________ >>> Elecraft mailing list >>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >>> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >>> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >>> >>> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >>> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >>> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > -- Hisashi T Fujinaka - [hidden email] BSEE + BSChem + BAEnglish + MSCS + $2.50 = coffee ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I guess a lot of us took the Commercial Radiotelephone License.
I got my Novice and Technician License by my mentor. That was the General Class written exam back then. Tried several times to pass my General CW test at the Detroit FCC office (we lived 70-miles away so not qualified for a Conditional). By 1962 I was an EE student in college with no time for upgrading (or any ham radio). In 1971 I was laid off from Hughes Aircraft along with thousands of other engineers so my job prospects were bleak. I decided to take my 2nd Class license to qualify for work for radio or TV broadcast. The theory exam was twice as tough as the Extra in my opinion. In 1982, I found a job working in marine electronics so pricked up the Radar Endorsement. I also passed my Advanced in 1982 at the Anchorage FCC. CW test had been downgraded to a multiple question exam about plain language text message vs the five mixed character groups back in Detroit. Yeah those Detroit FCC guys could have passed as FBI guys. In 1983 my 2nd class finally netted me a job as engineer for KYUK-TV in Bethel, AK (I flew out to into the bush to repair the TV translator network). Wasn't until 2000 did I pass the Extra (downgraded to 13wpm). Missed two questions on the written exam (because I knew more than the test designers and many of the answers were incorrect). 73, Ed - KL7UW http://www.kl7uw.com Dubus-NA Business mail: [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 4/29/2020 10:31 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> CW test had been downgraded to a multiple question exam about plain > language text message vs the five mixed character groups back in Detroit. The ham CW test was always plain language text. 5-character groups were only for the Radiotelegraph CW exams. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 4/29/2020 10:31 PM, Edward R Cole wrote:
> Missed two questions on the written exam (because I knew more than the > test designers and many of the answers were incorrect). But it was a product of the private sector.... :) 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Probably not Bill since it has drifted way off original topic and
continues to do so. I posed the original question. My guess is that the Colpitts oscillator was probably the easiest to get stable [or nearly so] of the extant designs then because it uses capacitive feedback. It would be the most familiar to examinees and the FCC just settled on it. I remember that some only had to draw the schematic, others [including me] had to complete a partial schematic and answer questions. Incidentally, Colpitts was also on my 1P and 2T exams. Since the only copier then was Thermofax, once they had a question set about it, they probably just stuck to it. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 4/29/2020 8:44 PM, Nr4c wrote: > Will this “Mystery” ever be solved? > > Sent from my iPhone > ...nr4c. bill > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Why were code tests with groups almost always at a slower speed than
plain text? I had to copy 5-character groups at 16 [I think], and plain text at 20 [I also think ... might have been 25, it was a very long time ago] for the 2nd Telegraph. I've never sat a military circuit to copy groups, all my experience with groups was practice, the test, and WX reports which sort of approximate groups. However, I find groups to be easier copy than plain text, especially on a mill of teletype tape perforator keyboard. The transition to "Ear-to-Fingers" mode with nothing passing through brain is almost instantaneous and permanent for the duration. With plain language text, I'll sometimes rouse from that state, try to make sense of what I'm copying and have to catch up. Just curious, lots of folks here here have copied groups for a living and might know the answer. Incidentally, Jettie Hill, W6RFF [SK], once told me that in WW2, he had to learn to sight-read inked tape at 45 or 50 WPM. I think that would have caged my eyeballs. [:=) 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County On 4/30/2020 9:36 AM, Phil Kane wrote: > On 4/29/2020 10:31 PM, Edward R Cole wrote: > >> CW test had been downgraded to a multiple question exam about plain >> language text message vs the five mixed character groups back in Detroit. > The ham CW test was always plain language text. 5-character groups were > only for the Radiotelegraph CW exams. > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I took my Novice exam from another ham in 1972, but my general and advanced
at the FCC in 1977 or 1978. 73 Eric WD6DBM On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 9:27 PM Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 4/28/2020 4:16 PM, EricJ wrote: > > but some time in the mid-50s it was given over to volunteer hams. > > My memory is that it was a LOT later than that. I'd guess late '70s to > early '80s. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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I did all the FCC required licenses at Portland FCC. General class while in High School, all commercial licenses including 3rd class radiotelegraph and Amateur Extra around early 1960s. And with a 10 year broadcasting career usually yearly visits from McCann or another FCC engineer Burson at the broadcast station inspections.
73 KI7Y ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Kane" <[hidden email]> To: "Elecraft" <[hidden email]> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 7:32:31 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery On 4/29/2020 5:52 PM, Macy monkeys wrote: > I took my General at the FCC office downtown Portland in the late > 60s. The examiner was a tough and gruff staffer named Francis McCann. > IMHO, he was extra tough on 14 year olds, hi. You know my heart was > racing when that series of V's came through those headphones! Frank McCann was one of the old timers when I joined the agency in 1967. By that time he was the Engineer in Charge of the Portland Office but the EIC did a lot of the journeyman jobs in those smaller offices. When he retired in the late 1970s (or was it the early 1980s) I applied for his job but they had to give it to someone else whose office was being closed and I continued at the San Francisco Office until I retired in 1995. I have no idea what happened to him after that. 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 4/30/2020 1:35 PM, [hidden email] wrote:
> "In the 1950s and 1960s, Novice, Technician and Conditional exams were > given by licensees acting as volunteer examiners." I took my novice test when I was 11 years old from W1ZWG at his home. This was the summer of 1958 and I believe that any General class or above could give a test for Novice and Technician class licenses. 73, Joe, K1ike ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Jim,
All the broadcast inspections are now contracted out to private companies. 73, -de John NI0K Jim Cassidy wrote on 4/30/2020 1:47 PM: > I did all the FCC required licenses at Portland FCC. General class while in High School, all commercial licenses including 3rd class radiotelegraph and Amateur Extra around early 1960s. And with a 10 year broadcasting career usually yearly visits from McCann or another FCC engineer Burson at the broadcast station inspections. > > 73 KI7Y > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Phil Kane" <[hidden email]> > To: "Elecraft" <[hidden email]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 7:32:31 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery > > On 4/29/2020 5:52 PM, Macy monkeys wrote: > >> I took my General at the FCC office downtown Portland in the late >> 60s. The examiner was a tough and gruff staffer named Francis McCann. >> IMHO, he was extra tough on 14 year olds, hi. You know my heart was >> racing when that series of V's came through those headphones! > Frank McCann was one of the old timers when I joined the agency in 1967. > By that time he was the Engineer in Charge of the Portland Office but > the EIC did a lot of the journeyman jobs in those smaller offices. When > he retired in the late 1970s (or was it the early 1980s) I applied for > his job but they had to give it to someone else whose office was being > closed and I continued at the San Francisco Office until I retired in > 1995. I have no idea what happened to him after that. > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest > Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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why have an engineer on staff ??? just shop a few services out for
the best price. When I got my First Phone I thought I could find great job security .... but I twisted from broadcasting to sales....on the way home from my first interview with WAAF/WGRT I took a job in the audio industry...a career that lasted 40+ years. and when they wanted my P1 ticket to give me GROL I took a pass, as I was NOT going to give that up. bill On 4/30/2020 3:58 PM, John Simmons wrote: > Jim, > > All the broadcast inspections are now contracted out to private > companies. > > 73, > -de John NI0K > > Jim Cassidy wrote on 4/30/2020 1:47 PM: >> I did all the FCC required licenses at Portland FCC. General class >> while in High School, all commercial licenses including 3rd class >> radiotelegraph and Amateur Extra around early 1960s. And with a 10 >> year broadcasting career usually yearly visits from McCann or another >> FCC engineer Burson at the broadcast station inspections. >> >> 73 KI7Y >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Phil Kane" <[hidden email]> >> To: "Elecraft" <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 7:32:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery >> >> On 4/29/2020 5:52 PM, Macy monkeys wrote: >> >>> I took my General at the FCC office downtown Portland in the late >>> 60s. The examiner was a tough and gruff staffer named Francis McCann. >>> IMHO, he was extra tough on 14 year olds, hi. You know my heart was >>> racing when that series of V's came through those headphones! >> Frank McCann was one of the old timers when I joined the agency in 1967. >> By that time he was the Engineer in Charge of the Portland Office but >> the EIC did a lot of the journeyman jobs in those smaller offices. When >> he retired in the late 1970s (or was it the early 1980s) I applied for >> his job but they had to give it to someone else whose office was being >> closed and I continued at the San Francisco Office until I retired in >> 1995. I have no idea what happened to him after that. >> >> 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane >> Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 >> >> From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest >> Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] >> ______________________________________________________________ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:[hidden email] >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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Local 2-way friend's shop here in Montana has several under contract.
FWIW 73 K0PP On Thu, Apr 30, 2020, 13:59 John Simmons <[hidden email]> wrote: > Jim, > > All the broadcast inspections are now contracted out to private companies. > > 73, > -de John NI0K > > Jim Cassidy wrote on 4/30/2020 1:47 PM: > > I did all the FCC required licenses at Portland FCC. General class > while in High School, all commercial licenses including 3rd class > radiotelegraph and Amateur Extra around early 1960s. And with a 10 year > broadcasting career usually yearly visits from McCann or another FCC > engineer Burson at the broadcast station inspections. > > > > 73 KI7Y > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Phil Kane" <[hidden email]> > > To: "Elecraft" <[hidden email]> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2020 7:32:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery > > > > On 4/29/2020 5:52 PM, Macy monkeys wrote: > > > >> I took my General at the FCC office downtown Portland in the late > >> 60s. The examiner was a tough and gruff staffer named Francis McCann. > >> IMHO, he was extra tough on 14 year olds, hi. You know my heart was > >> racing when that series of V's came through those headphones! > > Frank McCann was one of the old timers when I joined the agency in 1967. > > By that time he was the Engineer in Charge of the Portland Office but > > the EIC did a lot of the journeyman jobs in those smaller offices. When > > he retired in the late 1970s (or was it the early 1980s) I applied for > > his job but they had to give it to someone else whose office was being > > closed and I continued at the San Francisco Office until I retired in > > 1995. I have no idea what happened to him after that. > > > > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane > > Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 > > > > From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest > > Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > Message delivered to [hidden email] > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The Heathkit AT1 has a Colpitts 6AG7 0scillator.
Just helping to solve the mystery... Chuck Hawley [hidden email] Amateur Radio, KE9UW aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles ________________________________ From: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> on behalf of Eric Norris <[hidden email]> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2020 1:18 PM To: [hidden email] <[hidden email]> Cc: elecraft@mailman qth. net <[hidden email]> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery I took my Novice exam from another ham in 1972, but my general and advanced at the FCC in 1977 or 1978. 73 Eric WD6DBM On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 9:27 PM Jim Brown <[hidden email]> wrote: > On 4/28/2020 4:16 PM, EricJ wrote: > > but some time in the mid-50s it was given over to volunteer hams. > > My memory is that it was a LOT later than that. I'd guess late '70s to > early '80s. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email]
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On 4/30/2020 12:58 PM, John Simmons wrote:
> All the broadcast inspections are now contracted out to private companies. Not exactly. The FCC started the Alternate Broadcast Inspection Program (ABIT) about the time that I retired from the FCC. in the mid 1990s when there was a push to privatize Federal agency obligations to some extent. The FCC did it for broadcast station inspections, ship station safety inspections, and resolution of harmful interference. ABIT is a voluntary program under the management of the various state broadcasters' associations that contract with individuals to make compliance inspections of broadcast stations. The station pays the association a fixed fee, and the association pays the inspector. I contracted with the California association from 1996 until 1999 and traveled all over the state. Notification of passing an ABIT inspection was sent to the FCC but failures were not so reported. I don't know if that is still done. Such passing was regarded as "insulation" from FCC inspection for three years but the FCC still has the obligation to inspect broadcast stations both on a random basis for compliance with specific programs such as tower lighting and EAS compliance or if a complaint has been filed that bears on rule compliance, technical and otherwise. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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On 4/30/2020 1:32 PM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote:
> and when they wanted my P1 ticket to give me GROL I took a pass, as I > was NOT going to give that up. So you wound up with nothing when your P1 expired versus keeping the same privileges with a GROL which soon became a lifetime license. PS - you would have been able to keep the P1 certificate as a "souvenir". 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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We all have similar stories, sad part is, there are extra class licensees
that dont know any more about oscillators than ohms law or caculating the length of a half wave dipole. The ones to "tell the tell" ain't gonna be around forever, few of us left, ain't no more coming over. 73 Dean K2WW On Apr 30, 2020 21:43, "Phil Kane" <[hidden email]> wrote: On 4/30/2020 12:58 PM, John Simmons wrote: > All the broadcast inspections are now contracted out to private companies. Not exactly. The FCC started the Alternate Broadcast Inspection Program (ABIT) about the time that I retired from the FCC. in the mid 1990s when there was a push to privatize Federal agency obligations to some extent. The FCC did it for broadcast station inspections, ship station safety inspections, and resolution of harmful interference. ABIT is a voluntary program under the management of the various state broadcasters' associations that contract with individuals to make compliance inspections of broadcast stations. The station pays the association a fixed fee, and the association pays the inspector. I contracted with the California association from 1996 until 1999 and traveled all over the state. Notification of passing an ABIT inspection was sent to the FCC but failures were not so reported. I don't know if that is still done. Such passing was regarded as "insulation" from FCC inspection for three years but the FCC still has the obligation to inspect broadcast stations both on a random basis for compliance with specific programs such as tower lighting and EAS compliance or if a complaint has been filed that bears on rule compliance, technical and otherwise. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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The barrier to entry certainly isn’t what it used to be, but that’s probably a good thing. If someone gets on the air and has fun (even FT8 hihi), I really don’t care if they can recite Ohm’s law or not. When they are interested, it’s as easy as picking up a copy of the ARRL Handbook. Doesn’t have to be an oral tradition. As long as I can call CQ and get an answer, things aren’t too bad!
73 Josh W6XU (WN6VUD 1972, WA6VUD 1973) Sent from my mobile device > On Apr 30, 2020, at 8:30 PM, Dean L <[hidden email]> wrote: > > We all have similar stories, sad part is, there are extra class licensees > that dont know any more about oscillators than ohms law or caculating the > length of a half wave dipole. > > The ones to "tell the tell" ain't gonna be around forever, few of us left, > ain't no more coming over. > 73 > Dean K2WW > ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
Re: OT: The Colpitts mystery
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I once spent 15+ years racing bicycles, officiating and promoting races.
During the same period lots of bikers tried their hand at building bike frames. This required design, fabricating brazing jigs, and the actual torch work. A few became known builders while most just gave it up as too complex and demanding. All, I assume, continued to ride and race. Moral of this story is that one doesn't need to know how to build a bike frame from scratch in order to enjoy biking. Most racers [the 40+ wpm contest folks...?] then and now couldn't tell you very much about bike frames other than "fit, doesn't fit." Same with cars. My father used to say that "back in the old days" you worked on your car all day Saturday in order to take the family on a Sunday ride. Try that with today's cars. So, perhaps the same goes with radio electronics and ham radio builders and circuit designers. Once, you had to build your own to get on the air. However, other than fun, does anyone here want to do a contest on a crystal set? Probably not. The trade off seems to be between simple and limited versus complex and limitless. The info is there for those who have and/or develop a keen interest in electronics. The rest can appreciate the wonder of it all while enjoying the "front panel" of their radios in their daily QSO's. ...IMHO ...robert On 5/1/2020 03:42 AM, Josh Fiden wrote: > The barrier to entry certainly isn’t what it used to be, but that’s probably a good thing. If someone gets on the air and has fun (even FT8 hihi), I really don’t care if they can recite Ohm’s law or not. When they are interested, it’s as easy as picking up a copy of the ARRL Handbook. Doesn’t have to be an oral tradition. As long as I can call CQ and get an answer, things aren’t too bad! > > 73 > Josh W6XU > (WN6VUD 1972, WA6VUD 1973) > > Sent from my mobile device > >> On Apr 30, 2020, at 8:30 PM, Dean L <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> We all have similar stories, sad part is, there are extra class licensees >> that dont know any more about oscillators than ohms law or caculating the >> length of a half wave dipole. >> >> The ones to "tell the tell" ain't gonna be around forever, few of us left, >> ain't no more coming over. >> 73 >> Dean K2WW >> > > ______________________________________________________________ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:[hidden email] > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > Message delivered to [hidden email] > -- Robert G Strickland, PhD ABPH - KE2WY [hidden email] Syracuse, New York, USA ______________________________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:[hidden email] This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to [hidden email] |
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