missed market

[rwm rwmr]

You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..

With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
Correct me if i am Wrong..

Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency contacts..
Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family)
As well as working with various local/regional emergency services..

So that within a Crisis happening..
Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail 
(like how home and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at least a week and up to still lack of power and phone service in some spots of NY and NJ as direct result of Hurricane Sandy )

Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output
 (with external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)

Yet even though i asked..
You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on HF ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..

I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
Fact is though it is clearly Not..

The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of the most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in contact with local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding community)

This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
This is Also a Very Poor attitude..

It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios with Excellent Abilities..
Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not requiring a PC hook up..
Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so offer ( but can not )
However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop the Ball..

Will you Re consider ?
Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale
(even bringing it to the white house if need be)
In order to get this done with a simple 5 watt portable radio ?

By the way

Yes i am a ham radio operator.

Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 .. ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a
various tuners..various power supplies .. 

until recently with hurricane Sandy.. 
create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams .. tribander 2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter antenna..

Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for them..
For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the outside world for 9 or 10 days
(pay phones..home phones..cell phones were all useless..power was out .. all for over a week)

I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF
 ( yes 11 meters as well )
Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with just my HT and HT antennas
( i had to go to to top of walkway on the bayonne bridge to get out beyond 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks )
I can easily get a Buddy Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.

So as i Now am still repairing my roof
 ( it still leaks like a lot any time it rains now )
I am Now also looking to re create my antenna farm
( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the others are trash..also lost a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax feedline )
So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
(seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus getting needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept away from driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed to bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned out it was not possible)

Bob Muller
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[N0AZZ]

I personally hope personally that "NO ONE" from Elecraft would ever add "11m
Bands" features to any radio they sell!!! For thing by law they can not do
so, why would even consider asking such a question?

Go buy a $29 CB HT and be done with it...and BTW I will leave a call sign
unlike "YOU"!

Fred/N0AZZ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of rwm rwmr
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 5:18 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] missed market

You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..

With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
Correct me if i am Wrong..

Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency
contacts..
Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family) As well as
working with various local/regional emergency services..

So that within a Crisis happening..
Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail (like how home
and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at least a week and up
to still lack of power and phone service in some spots of NY and NJ as
direct result of Hurricane Sandy )

Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output
 (with external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)

Yet even though i asked..
You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on HF
ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..

I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
Fact is though it is clearly Not..

The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of the
most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in contact with
local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding community)

This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
This is Also a Very Poor attitude..

It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios with
Excellent Abilities..
Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not
requiring a PC hook up..
Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so offer (
but can not ) However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop
the Ball..

Will you Re consider ?
Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale (even bringing it to
the white house if need be) In order to get this done with a simple 5 watt
portable radio ?

By the way

Yes i am a ham radio operator.

Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 ..
ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a various tuners..various power
supplies .. 

until recently with hurricane Sandy..
create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams .. tribander
2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter antenna..

Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for
them..
For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the outside
world for 9 or 10 days (pay phones..home phones..cell phones were all
useless..power was out .. all for over a week)

I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF
 ( yes 11 meters as well )
Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with just my HT and HT
antennas ( i had to go to to top of walkway on the bayonne bridge to get out
beyond 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks ) I can easily get a Buddy
Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.

So as i Now am still repairing my roof
 ( it still leaks like a lot any time it rains now ) I am Now also looking
to re create my antenna farm ( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the
others are trash..also lost a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax
feedline ) So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
(seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus getting
needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept away from
driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed to
bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned out it
was not possible)

Bob Muller
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[Randy Lake]

All this for 11m coverage ?
Really ?
Merry Christmas.

Randy Lake N1KWF


On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Fred Smith <[hidden email]> wrote:

> I personally hope personally that "NO ONE" from Elecraft would ever add
> "11m
> Bands" features to any radio they sell!!! For thing by law they can not do
> so, why would even consider asking such a question?
>
> Go buy a $29 CB HT and be done with it...and BTW I will leave a call sign
> unlike "YOU"!
>
> Fred/N0AZZ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [hidden email]
> [mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of rwm rwmr
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 5:18 AM
> To: [hidden email]
> Subject: [Elecraft] missed market
>
> You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
> You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..
>
> With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
> Correct me if i am Wrong..
>
> Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency
> contacts..
> Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family) As well as
> working with various local/regional emergency services..
>
> So that within a Crisis happening..
> Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail (like how home
> and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at least a week and up
> to still lack of power and phone service in some spots of NY and NJ as
> direct result of Hurricane Sandy )
>
> Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output
>  (with external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)
>
> Yet even though i asked..
> You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on HF
> ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..
>
> I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
> Fact is though it is clearly Not..
>
> The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
> Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of the
> most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in contact with
> local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding community)
>
> This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
> This is Also a Very Poor attitude..
>
> It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios with
> Excellent Abilities..
> Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not
> requiring a PC hook up..
> Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so offer (
> but can not ) However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop
> the Ball..
>
> Will you Re consider ?
> Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale (even bringing it to
> the white house if need be) In order to get this done with a simple 5 watt
> portable radio ?
>
> By the way
>
> Yes i am a ham radio operator.
>
> Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 ..
> ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a various tuners..various power
> supplies ..
>
> until recently with hurricane Sandy..
> create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams .. tribander
> 2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter antenna..
>
> Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for
> them..
> For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the outside
> world for 9 or 10 days (pay phones..home phones..cell phones were all
> useless..power was out .. all for over a week)
>
> I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF
>  ( yes 11 meters as well )
> Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with just my HT and HT
> antennas ( i had to go to to top of walkway on the bayonne bridge to get
> out
> beyond 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks ) I can easily get a Buddy
> Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.
>
> So as i Now am still repairing my roof
>  ( it still leaks like a lot any time it rains now ) I am Now also looking
> to re create my antenna farm ( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the
> others are trash..also lost a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax
> feedline ) So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
> I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
> (seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus getting
> needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept away from
> driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed to
> bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned out it
> was not possible)
>
> Bob Muller
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[N8MSA]

Wow...just...wow...

http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&SID=111c69175f95c15223d009847bac0a18&rgn=div6&view=text&node=47:5.0.1.1.5.4&idno=47#47:5.0.1.1.5.4.144.9 

FCC Title 47 Part 95 Subpart D explains why Elecraft (or anyone else) couldn't do this if they wanted to.

I really, really thought that every licensed amateur radio operator would know this .


Mike Alexander - N8MSA

[hidden email]

----- Original Message -----
From: "rwm rwmr" <[hidden email]>
To: [hidden email]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:18:26 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] missed market

You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..

With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
Correct me if i am Wrong..

Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency contacts..
Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family)
As well as working with various local/regional emergency services..

So that within a Crisis happening..
Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail
(like how home and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at least a week and up to still lack of power and phone service in some spots of NY and NJ as direct result of Hurricane Sandy )

Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output
(with external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)

Yet even though i asked..
You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on HF ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..

I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
Fact is though it is clearly Not..

The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of the most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in contact with local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding community)

This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
This is Also a Very Poor attitude..

It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios with Excellent Abilities..
Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not requiring a PC hook up..
Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so offer ( but can not )
However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop the Ball..

Will you Re consider ?
Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale
(even bringing it to the white house if need be)
In order to get this done with a simple 5 watt portable radio ?

By the way

Yes i am a ham radio operator.

Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 .. ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a
various tuners..various power supplies ..

until recently with hurricane Sandy..
create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams .. tribander 2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter antenna..

Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for them..
For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the outside world for 9 or 10 days
(pay phones..home phones..cell phones were all useless..power was out .. all for over a week)

I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF
( yes 11 meters as well )
Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with just my HT and HT antennas
( i had to go to to top of walkway on the bayonne bridge to get out beyond 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks )
I can easily get a Buddy Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.

So as i Now am still repairing my roof
( it still leaks like a lot any time it rains now )
I am Now also looking to re create my antenna farm
( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the others are trash..also lost a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax feedline )
So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
(seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus getting needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept away from driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed to bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned out it was not possible)

Bob Muller
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[Doug Shields-2]

Bob,
    "Dual purpose" radios are radios that are intended for use, or can be
easily modified to work, in both the amateur bands and citizens band.  The
radio you want would fit the FCC definition of a dual purpose radio.  Those
radios are strictly forbidden under FCC rules.  In fact it is illegal to
import, advertise, market, sell or lease such radios in the United States.
Elecraft could not legally manufacture or sell such a radio.
   BTW, the RCI-2970 that you list among your radios is on the FCC list of
dual purpose radios that are illegal in the US.

Doug  W4DAS

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[Gary Gregory-2]

Nope, not allowed in VK either!

On 11M band you need to learn a foreign language and forget asking for
help, mostly you just get QRM'd and so it goes on.

I think Eric will close this thread soon..:-)

73's
Gary

On 14 December 2012 23:29, <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Wow...just...wow...
>
>
> http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&SID=111c69175f95c15223d009847bac0a18&rgn=div6&view=text&node=47:5.0.1.1.5.4&idno=47#47:5.0.1.1.5.4.144.9
>
> FCC Title 47 Part 95 Subpart D explains why Elecraft (or anyone else)
> couldn't do this if they wanted to.
>
> I really, really thought that every licensed amateur radio operator would
> know this .
>
>
> Mike Alexander - N8MSA
>
> [hidden email]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rwm rwmr" <[hidden email]>
> To: [hidden email]
> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:18:26 AM
> Subject: [Elecraft] missed market
>
> You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
> You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..
>
> With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
> Correct me if i am Wrong..
>
> Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency
> contacts..
> Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family)
> As well as working with various local/regional emergency services..
>
> So that within a Crisis happening..
> Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail
> (like how home and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at
> least a week and up to still lack of power and phone service in some spots
> of NY and NJ as direct result of Hurricane Sandy )
>
> Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output
> (with external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)
>
> Yet even though i asked..
> You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on
> HF ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..
>
> I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
> Fact is though it is clearly Not..
>
> The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
> Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of the
> most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in contact with
> local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding community)
>
> This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
> This is Also a Very Poor attitude..
>
> It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios
> with Excellent Abilities..
> Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not
> requiring a PC hook up..
> Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so offer (
> but can not )
> However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop the Ball..
>
> Will you Re consider ?
> Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale
> (even bringing it to the white house if need be)
> In order to get this done with a simple 5 watt portable radio ?
>
> By the way
>
> Yes i am a ham radio operator.
>
> Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 ..
> ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a
> various tuners..various power supplies ..
>
> until recently with hurricane Sandy..
> create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams ..
> tribander 2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter
> antenna..
>
> Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for
> them..
> For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the outside
> world for 9 or 10 days
> (pay phones..home phones..cell phones were all useless..power was out ..
> all for over a week)
>
> I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF
> ( yes 11 meters as well )
> Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with just my HT and HT
> antennas
> ( i had to go to to top of walkway on the bayonne bridge to get out beyond
> 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks )
> I can easily get a Buddy Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.
>
> So as i Now am still repairing my roof
> ( it still leaks like a lot any time it rains now )
> I am Now also looking to re create my antenna farm
> ( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the others are trash..also lost
> a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax feedline )
> So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
> I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
> (seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus getting
> needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept away from
> driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed to
> bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned out it
> was not possible)
>
> Bob Muller
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[Millerhill]

A well thought out ridiculous post. Sorry.

You want 11m, get a radio for that purpose.

Maybe Elecraft could put a microwave oven in the KX3 as well.

73
Steve
W1SFR



On Dec 14, 2012, at 7:50 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:

> Nope, not allowed in VK either!
>
> On 11M band you need to learn a foreign language and forget asking for
> help, mostly you just get QRM'd and so it goes on.
>
> I think Eric will close this thread soon..:-)
>
> 73's
> Gary
>
> On 14 December 2012 23:29, <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Wow...just...wow...
>>
>>
>> http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&SID=111c69175f95c15223d009847bac0a18&rgn=div6&view=text&node=47:5.0.1.1.5.4&idno=47#47:5.0.1.1.5.4.144.9
>>
>> FCC Title 47 Part 95 Subpart D explains why Elecraft (or anyone else)
>> couldn't do this if they wanted to.
>>
>> I really, really thought that every licensed amateur radio operator would
>> know this .
>>
>>
>> Mike Alexander - N8MSA
>>
>> [hidden email]
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "rwm rwmr" <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:18:26 AM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] missed market
>>
>> You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
>> You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..
>>
>> With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
>> Correct me if i am Wrong..
>>
>> Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency
>> contacts..
>> Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family)
>> As well as working with various local/regional emergency services..
>>
>> So that within a Crisis happening..
>> Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail
>> (like how home and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at
>> least a week and up to still lack of power and phone service in some spots
>> of NY and NJ as direct result of Hurricane Sandy )
>>
>> Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output
>> (with external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)
>>
>> Yet even though i asked..
>> You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on
>> HF ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..
>>
>> I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
>> Fact is though it is clearly Not..
>>
>> The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
>> Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of the
>> most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in contact with
>> local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding community)
>>
>> This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
>> This is Also a Very Poor attitude..
>>
>> It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios
>> with Excellent Abilities..
>> Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not
>> requiring a PC hook up..
>> Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so offer (
>> but can not )
>> However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop the Ball..
>>
>> Will you Re consider ?
>> Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale
>> (even bringing it to the white house if need be)
>> In order to get this done with a simple 5 watt portable radio ?
>>
>> By the way
>>
>> Yes i am a ham radio operator.
>>
>> Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 ..
>> ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a
>> various tuners..various power supplies ..
>>
>> until recently with hurricane Sandy..
>> create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams ..
>> tribander 2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter
>> antenna..
>>
>> Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for
>> them..
>> For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the outside
>> world for 9 or 10 days
>> (pay phones..home phones..cell phones were all useless..power was out ..
>> all for over a week)
>>
>> I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF
>> ( yes 11 meters as well )
>> Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with just my HT and HT
>> antennas
>> ( i had to go to to top of walkway on the bayonne bridge to get out beyond
>> 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks )
>> I can easily get a Buddy Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.
>>
>> So as i Now am still repairing my roof
>> ( it still leaks like a lot any time it rains now )
>> I am Now also looking to re create my antenna farm
>> ( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the others are trash..also lost
>> a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax feedline )
>> So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
>> I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
>> (seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus getting
>> needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept away from
>> driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed to
>> bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned out it
>> was not possible)
>>
>> Bob Muller
>> ______________________________________________________________
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[Robert Vargas (KP4Y)]

I looked at my KX3 this morning and the mere though of seeing it being used as a CB radio sent chills down my spine...yeah, buy one of those "walkie talkie" style CB radios if you want the portability, I had one before becoming a "ham". Unless, you are really seeking bragging rights at the next CB club meeting. ;-)


73s
Robert-KP4Y

Gary Gregory <[hidden email]> wrote:

>Nope, not allowed in VK either!
>
>On 11M band you need to learn a foreign language and forget asking for
>help, mostly you just get QRM'd and so it goes on.
>
>I think Eric will close this thread soon..:-)
>
>73's
>Gary
>
>On 14 December 2012 23:29, <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Wow...just...wow...
>>
>>
>> http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&SID=111c69175f95c15223d009847bac0a18&rgn=div6&view=text&node=47:5.0.1.1.5.4&idno=47#47:5.0.1.1.5.4.144.9
>>
>> FCC Title 47 Part 95 Subpart D explains why Elecraft (or anyone else)
>> couldn't do this if they wanted to.
>>
>> I really, really thought that every licensed amateur radio operator would
>> know this .
>>
>>
>> Mike Alexander - N8MSA
>>
>> [hidden email]
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "rwm rwmr" <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:18:26 AM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] missed market
>>
>> You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
>> You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..
>>
>> With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
>> Correct me if i am Wrong..
>>
>> Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency
>> contacts..
>> Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family)
>> As well as working with various local/regional emergency services..
>>
>> So that within a Crisis happening..
>> Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail
>> (like how home and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at
>> least a week and up to still lack of power and phone service in some spots
>> of NY and NJ as direct result of Hurricane Sandy )
>>
>> Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output
>> (with external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)
>>
>> Yet even though i asked..
>> You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on
>> HF ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..
>>
>> I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
>> Fact is though it is clearly Not..
>>
>> The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
>> Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of the
>> most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in contact with
>> local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding community)
>>
>> This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
>> This is Also a Very Poor attitude..
>>
>> It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios
>> with Excellent Abilities..
>> Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not
>> requiring a PC hook up..
>> Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so offer (
>> but can not )
>> However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop the Ball..
>>
>> Will you Re consider ?
>> Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale
>> (even bringing it to the white house if need be)
>> In order to get this done with a simple 5 watt portable radio ?
>>
>> By the way
>>
>> Yes i am a ham radio operator.
>>
>> Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 ..
>> ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a
>> various tuners..various power supplies ..
>>
>> until recently with hurricane Sandy..
>> create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams ..
>> tribander 2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter
>> antenna..
>>
>> Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for
>> them..
>> For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the outside
>> world for 9 or 10 days
>> (pay phones..home phones..cell phones were all useless..power was out ..
>> all for over a week)
>>
>> I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF
>> ( yes 11 meters as well )
>> Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with just my HT and HT
>> antennas
>> ( i had to go to to top of walkway on the bayonne bridge to get out beyond
>> 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks )
>> I can easily get a Buddy Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.
>>
>> So as i Now am still repairing my roof
>> ( it still leaks like a lot any time it rains now )
>> I am Now also looking to re create my antenna farm
>> ( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the others are trash..also lost
>> a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax feedline )
>> So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
>> I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
>> (seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus getting
>> needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept away from
>> driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed to
>> bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned out it
>> was not possible)
>>
>> Bob Muller
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Elecraft mailing list
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...and a dorm fridge.

Chuck, KE9UW
Lionel Trains, TCA, LCCA, LRRC
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224

________________________________________
From: [hidden email] [[hidden email]] on behalf of Stephen Roberts [[hidden email]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 7:09 AM
To: Gary Gregory
Cc: [hidden email]; rwm rwmr
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] missed market

A well thought out ridiculous post. Sorry.

You want 11m, get a radio for that purpose.

Maybe Elecraft could put a microwave oven in the KX3 as well.

73
Steve
W1SFR



On Dec 14, 2012, at 7:50 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:

> Nope, not allowed in VK either!
>
> On 11M band you need to learn a foreign language and forget asking for
> help, mostly you just get QRM'd and so it goes on.
>
> I think Eric will close this thread soon..:-)
>
> 73's
> Gary
>
> On 14 December 2012 23:29, <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Wow...just...wow...
>>
>>
>> http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&SID=111c69175f95c15223d009847bac0a18&rgn=div6&view=text&node=47:5.0.1.1.5.4&idno=47#47:5.0.1.1.5.4.144.9
>>
>> FCC Title 47 Part 95 Subpart D explains why Elecraft (or anyone else)
>> couldn't do this if they wanted to.
>>
>> I really, really thought that every licensed amateur radio operator would
>> know this .
>>
>>
>> Mike Alexander - N8MSA
>>
>> [hidden email]
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "rwm rwmr" <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:18:26 AM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] missed market
>>
>> You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
>> You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..
>>
>> With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
>> Correct me if i am Wrong..
>>
>> Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency
>> contacts..
>> Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family)
>> As well as working with various local/regional emergency services..
>>
>> So that within a Crisis happening..
>> Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail
>> (like how home and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at
>> least a week and up to still lack of power and phone service in some spots
>> of NY and NJ as direct result of Hurricane Sandy )
>>
>> Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output
>> (with external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)
>>
>> Yet even though i asked..
>> You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on
>> HF ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..
>>
>> I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
>> Fact is though it is clearly Not..
>>
>> The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
>> Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of the
>> most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in contact with
>> local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding community)
>>
>> This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
>> This is Also a Very Poor attitude..
>>
>> It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios
>> with Excellent Abilities..
>> Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not
>> requiring a PC hook up..
>> Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so offer (
>> but can not )
>> However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop the Ball..
>>
>> Will you Re consider ?
>> Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale
>> (even bringing it to the white house if need be)
>> In order to get this done with a simple 5 watt portable radio ?
>>
>> By the way
>>
>> Yes i am a ham radio operator.
>>
>> Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 ..
>> ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a
>> various tuners..various power supplies ..
>>
>> until recently with hurricane Sandy..
>> create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams ..
>> tribander 2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter
>> antenna..
>>
>> Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for
>> them..
>> For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the outside
>> world for 9 or 10 days
>> (pay phones..home phones..cell phones were all useless..power was out ..
>> all for over a week)
>>
>> I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF
>> ( yes 11 meters as well )
>> Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with just my HT and HT
>> antennas
>> ( i had to go to to top of walkway on the bayonne bridge to get out beyond
>> 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks )
>> I can easily get a Buddy Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.
>>
>> So as i Now am still repairing my roof
>> ( it still leaks like a lot any time it rains now )
>> I am Now also looking to re create my antenna farm
>> ( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the others are trash..also lost
>> a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax feedline )
>> So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
>> I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
>> (seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus getting
>> needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept away from
>> driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed to
>> bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned out it
>> was not possible)
>>
>> Bob Muller
>> ______________________________________________________________
>> Elecraft mailing list
>> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft
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On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:18 AM, rwm rwmr <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yes i am a ham radio operator.

Call sign?


Mark  AD5SS
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[Rick McClelland, AA5S]

One point to remember is that having a radio that puts out 4 watts on 11
meters doesn't make that radio legal to transmit there.  It must be type
accepted by the FCC to be legal.   The FCC seems to view CB operators as
the intellectual equivalent of a drooling dog hanging its head out a car
window but if a ham is caught with a non-type accepted radio on that band,
his/her license will be gone in a flash.

On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Mark Bayern <[hidden email]> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:18 AM, rwm rwmr <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Yes i am a ham radio operator.
>
> Call sign?
>
>
> Mark  AD5SS
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[N0AZZ]

Would 11m fall into the General Coverage receiver filter never looked on my
K3?

Fred/N0AZZ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Robert Vargas (KP4Y)
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 7:31 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] missed market

I looked at my KX3 this morning and the mere though of seeing it being used
as a CB radio sent chills down my spine...yeah, buy one of those "walkie
talkie" style CB radios if you want the portability, I had one before
becoming a "ham". Unless, you are really seeking bragging rights at the next
CB club meeting. ;-)


73s
Robert-KP4Y

Gary Gregory <[hidden email]> wrote:

>Nope, not allowed in VK either!
>
>On 11M band you need to learn a foreign language and forget asking for
>help, mostly you just get QRM'd and so it goes on.
>
>I think Eric will close this thread soon..:-)
>
>73's
>Gary
>
>On 14 December 2012 23:29, <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Wow...just...wow...
>>
>>
>> http://www.ecfr.gov/cgi-bin/text-idx?c=ecfr&SID=111c69175f95c15223d00
>> 9847bac0a18&rgn=div6&view=text&node=47:5.0.1.1.5.4&idno=47#47:5.0.1.1
>> .5.4.144.9
>>
>> FCC Title 47 Part 95 Subpart D explains why Elecraft (or anyone else)
>> couldn't do this if they wanted to.
>>
>> I really, really thought that every licensed amateur radio operator
>> would know this .
>>
>>
>> Mike Alexander - N8MSA
>>
>> [hidden email]
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "rwm rwmr" <[hidden email]>
>> To: [hidden email]
>> Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:18:26 AM
>> Subject: [Elecraft] missed market
>>
>> You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
>> You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..
>>
>> With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
>> Correct me if i am Wrong..
>>
>> Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency
>> contacts..
>> Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family) As well as
>> working with various local/regional emergency services..
>>
>> So that within a Crisis happening..
>> Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail (like how
>> home and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at least a
>> week and up to still lack of power and phone service in some spots of
>> NY and NJ as direct result of Hurricane Sandy )
>>
>> Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output (with
>> external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)
>>
>> Yet even though i asked..
>> You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable
>> on HF ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..
>>
>> I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
>> Fact is though it is clearly Not..
>>
>> The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
>> Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some
>> of the most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in
>> contact with local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding
>> community)
>>
>> This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
>> This is Also a Very Poor attitude..
>>
>> It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality
>> Radios with Excellent Abilities..
>> Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and
>> Not requiring a PC hook up..
>> Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so
>> offer ( but can not ) However in one of the Most Important
>> aspects..You Also Drop the Ball..
>>
>> Will you Re consider ?
>> Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale (even bringing
>> it to the white house if need be) In order to get this done with a
>> simple 5 watt portable radio ?
>>
>> By the way
>>
>> Yes i am a ham radio operator.
>>
>> Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 ..
>> ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a various tuners..various
>> power supplies ..
>>
>> until recently with hurricane Sandy..
>> create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams ..
>> tribander 2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11
>> meter antenna..
>>
>> Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas
>> for them..
>> For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the
>> outside world for 9 or 10 days (pay phones..home phones..cell phones
>> were all useless..power was out ..
>> all for over a week)
>>
>> I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF ( yes 11
>> meters as well ) Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles
>> with just my HT and HT antennas ( i had to go to to top of walkway on
>> the bayonne bridge to get out beyond
>> 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks ) I can easily get a Buddy
>> Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.
>>
>> So as i Now am still repairing my roof ( it still leaks like a lot
>> any time it rains now ) I am Now also looking to re create my antenna
>> farm ( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the others are
>> trash..also lost a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax feedline )
>> So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
>> I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
>> (seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus
>> getting needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept
>> away from driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i
>> needed to bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well
>> it turned out it was not possible)
>>
>> Bob Muller
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[N0AZZ]

I'll have you know that my dog does "NOT" hang his head out of the window
and drool. he prefers the AC or heat.

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-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Rick McClelland, AA5S
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 8:09 AM
To: Mark Bayern
Cc: [hidden email]; rwm rwmr
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] missed market

One point to remember is that having a radio that puts out 4 watts on 11
meters doesn't make that radio legal to transmit there.  It must be type
accepted by the FCC to be legal.   The FCC seems to view CB operators as
the intellectual equivalent of a drooling dog hanging its head out a car
window but if a ham is caught with a non-type accepted radio on that band,
his/her license will be gone in a flash.

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> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:18 AM, rwm rwmr <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> > Yes i am a ham radio operator.
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> Call sign?
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Do we really need to spend time DIGNIFYING such a ridiculous post by this individual?
PLEASE, PLEASE, don't give this person the satisfaction of having your attentions!

(((73))) Milverton.

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>
>One point to remember is that having a radio that puts out 4 watts on 11
>meters doesn't make that radio legal to transmit there.  It must be type
>accepted by the FCC to be legal.   The FCC seems to view CB operators as
>the intellectual equivalent of a drooling dog hanging its head out a car
>window but if a ham is caught with a non-type accepted radio on that band,
>his/her license will be gone in a flash.
>
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>> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 5:18 AM, rwm rwmr <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>> > Yes i am a ham radio operator.
>>
>> Call sign?
>>
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[Dr. William J. Schmidt, II]

If it only put out 5 watts on 11 meters... who then cares...


Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ

Owner - Operator
Big Signal Ranch
Staunton, Illinois

email:  [hidden email]


-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of Fred Smith
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 6:03 AM
To: 'rwm rwmr'; [hidden email]
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] missed market

I personally hope personally that "NO ONE" from Elecraft would ever add "11m
Bands" features to any radio they sell!!! For thing by law they can not do
so, why would even consider asking such a question?

Go buy a $29 CB HT and be done with it...and BTW I will leave a call sign
unlike "YOU"!

Fred/N0AZZ

-----Original Message-----
From: [hidden email]
[mailto:[hidden email]] On Behalf Of rwm rwmr
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 5:18 AM
To: [hidden email]
Subject: [Elecraft] missed market

You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..

With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
Correct me if i am Wrong..

Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency
contacts..
Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family) As well as
working with various local/regional emergency services..

So that within a Crisis happening..
Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail (like how home
and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at least a week and up
to still lack of power and phone service in some spots of NY and NJ as
direct result of Hurricane Sandy )

Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output
 (with external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)

Yet even though i asked..
You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on HF
ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..

I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
Fact is though it is clearly Not..

The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of the
most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in contact with
local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding community)

This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
This is Also a Very Poor attitude..

It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios with
Excellent Abilities..
Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not
requiring a PC hook up..
Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so offer (
but can not ) However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop
the Ball..

Will you Re consider ?
Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale (even bringing it to
the white house if need be) In order to get this done with a simple 5 watt
portable radio ?

By the way

Yes i am a ham radio operator.

Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 ..
ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a various tuners..various power
supplies .. 

until recently with hurricane Sandy..
create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams .. tribander
2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter antenna..

Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for
them..
For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the outside
world for 9 or 10 days (pay phones..home phones..cell phones were all
useless..power was out .. all for over a week)

I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF
 ( yes 11 meters as well )
Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with just my HT and HT
antennas ( i had to go to to top of walkway on the bayonne bridge to get out
beyond 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks ) I can easily get a Buddy
Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.

So as i Now am still repairing my roof
 ( it still leaks like a lot any time it rains now ) I am Now also looking
to re create my antenna farm ( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the
others are trash..also lost a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax
feedline ) So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
(seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus getting
needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept away from
driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed to
bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned out it
was not possible)

Bob Muller
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"Who then cares" are the only people who matter: The FCC.

73,
Scott, N9AA


On 12/14/12 10:11 AM, Dr. William J. Schmidt, II wrote:

> If it only put out 5 watts on 11 meters... who then cares...
>
>
> Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ / J68HZ/ 8P6HK/ ZF2HZ
>
> Owner - Operator
> Big Signal Ranch
> Staunton, Illinois
>
> email:  [hidden email]
>
>
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[Buddy Brannan]

Well, this was good for a laugh, anyway. Go ahead with your nationwide petition, even send it to the White House if you like. If it's written anything like this Email, bet it won't get very far. Actually, even if it's written better than this Email, it won't get very far, as others have very correctly and succinctly pointed out.

"Wow" is about the same reaction as I had.

It was, anyway, a valiant attempt. At humor if at nothing else.

Merry Christmas, or something.

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Phone: [phone] or 888-75-BUDDY



On Dec 14, 2012, at 6:18 AM, rwm rwmr <[hidden email]> wrote:

> You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
> You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..
>
> With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
> Correct me if i am Wrong..
>
> Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency contacts..
> Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family)
> As well as working with various local/regional emergency services..
>
> So that within a Crisis happening..
> Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail
> (like how home and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at least a week and up to still lack of power and phone service in some spots of NY and NJ as direct result of Hurricane Sandy )
>
> Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output
>  (with external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)
>
> Yet even though i asked..
> You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on HF ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..
>
> I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
> Fact is though it is clearly Not..
>
> The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
> Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of the most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in contact with local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding community)
>
> This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
> This is Also a Very Poor attitude..
>
> It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios with Excellent Abilities..
> Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not requiring a PC hook up..
> Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so offer ( but can not )
> However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop the Ball..
>
> Will you Re consider ?
> Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale
> (even bringing it to the white house if need be)
> In order to get this done with a simple 5 watt portable radio ?
>
> By the way
>
> Yes i am a ham radio operator.
>
> Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 .. ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a
> various tuners..various power supplies ..
>
> until recently with hurricane Sandy..
> create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams .. tribander 2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter antenna..
>
> Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for them..
> For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the outside world for 9 or 10 days
> (pay phones..home phones..cell phones were all useless..power was out .. all for over a week)
>
> I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF
>  ( yes 11 meters as well )
> Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with just my HT and HT antennas
> ( i had to go to to top of walkway on the bayonne bridge to get out beyond 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks )
> I can easily get a Buddy Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.
>
> So as i Now am still repairing my roof
>  ( it still leaks like a lot any time it rains now )
> I am Now also looking to re create my antenna farm
> ( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the others are trash..also lost a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax feedline )
> So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
> I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
> (seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus getting needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept away from driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed to bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned out it was not possible)
>
> Bob Muller
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[Bob K6UJ]

Bob Muller,

Thanks for the source of entertainment.  
Why pretend to be knowledgeable enough to be a radio amateur ?  Study and get your
license.  Then you won't need to play these charades.

Bob
K6UJ




On Dec 14, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:

> Well, this was good for a laugh, anyway. Go ahead with your nationwide petition, even send it to the White House if you like. If it's written anything like this Email, bet it won't get very far. Actually, even if it's written better than this Email, it won't get very far, as others have very correctly and succinctly pointed out.
>
> "Wow" is about the same reaction as I had.
>
> It was, anyway, a valiant attempt. At humor if at nothing else.
>
> Merry Christmas, or something.
>
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: [phone] or 888-75-BUDDY
>
>
>
> On Dec 14, 2012, at 6:18 AM, rwm rwmr <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
>> You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..
>>
>> With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
>> Correct me if i am Wrong..
>>
>> Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency contacts..
>> Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family)
>> As well as working with various local/regional emergency services..
>>
>> So that within a Crisis happening..
>> Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail
>> (like how home and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at least a week and up to still lack of power and phone service in some spots of NY and NJ as direct result of Hurricane Sandy )
>>
>> Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output
>> (with external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)
>>
>> Yet even though i asked..
>> You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on HF ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..
>>
>> I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
>> Fact is though it is clearly Not..
>>
>> The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
>> Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of the most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in contact with local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding community)
>>
>> This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
>> This is Also a Very Poor attitude..
>>
>> It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios with Excellent Abilities..
>> Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not requiring a PC hook up..
>> Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so offer ( but can not )
>> However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop the Ball..
>>
>> Will you Re consider ?
>> Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale
>> (even bringing it to the white house if need be)
>> In order to get this done with a simple 5 watt portable radio ?
>>
>> By the way
>>
>> Yes i am a ham radio operator.
>>
>> Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 .. ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a
>> various tuners..various power supplies ..
>>
>> until recently with hurricane Sandy..
>> create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams .. tribander 2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter antenna..
>>
>> Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for them..
>> For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the outside world for 9 or 10 days
>> (pay phones..home phones..cell phones were all useless..power was out .. all for over a week)
>>
>> I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF
>> ( yes 11 meters as well )
>> Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with just my HT and HT antennas
>> ( i had to go to to top of walkway on the bayonne bridge to get out beyond 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks )
>> I can easily get a Buddy Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.
>>
>> So as i Now am still repairing my roof
>> ( it still leaks like a lot any time it rains now )
>> I am Now also looking to re create my antenna farm
>> ( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the others are trash..also lost a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax feedline )
>> So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
>> I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
>> (seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus getting needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept away from driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed to bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned out it was not possible)
>>
>> Bob Muller
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Yeah you are right lets end this thread.
I dont believe he is a ham.

73,
Bob
K6UJ


On Dec 14, 2012, at 6:16 PM, N5GE wrote:

> He is a HAM, and your feeding his fantasy by replying to this thread.
>
> Let's end this thread before it gets out of hand, please Eric...
>
> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:05:34 -0800, Bob K6UJ <[hidden email]>
> wrote:
>
>> Bob Muller,
>>
>> Thanks for the source of entertainment.  
>> Why pretend to be knowledgeable enough to be a radio amateur ?  Study and get your
>> license.  Then you won't need to play these charades.
>>
>> Bob
>> K6UJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>>
>>> Well, this was good for a laugh, anyway. Go ahead with your nationwide petition, even send it to the White House if you like. If it's written anything like this Email, bet it won't get very far. Actually, even if it's written better than this Email, it won't get very far, as others have very correctly and succinctly pointed out.
>>>
>>> "Wow" is about the same reaction as I had.
>>>
>>> It was, anyway, a valiant attempt. At humor if at nothing else.
>>>
>>> Merry Christmas, or something.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: [phone] or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 6:18 AM, rwm rwmr <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
>>>> You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..
>>>>
>>>> With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
>>>> Correct me if i am Wrong..
>>>>
>>>> Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency contacts..
>>>> Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family)
>>>> As well as working with various local/regional emergency services..
>>>>
>>>> So that within a Crisis happening..
>>>> Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail
>>>> (like how home and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at least a week and up to still lack of power and phone service in some spots of NY and NJ as direct result of Hurricane Sandy )
>>>>
>>>> Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output
>>>> (with external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)
>>>>
>>>> Yet even though i asked..
>>>> You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on HF ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..
>>>>
>>>> I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
>>>> Fact is though it is clearly Not..
>>>>
>>>> The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
>>>> Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of the most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in contact with local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding community)
>>>>
>>>> This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
>>>> This is Also a Very Poor attitude..
>>>>
>>>> It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios with Excellent Abilities..
>>>> Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not requiring a PC hook up..
>>>> Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so offer ( but can not )
>>>> However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop the Ball..
>>>>
>>>> Will you Re consider ?
>>>> Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale
>>>> (even bringing it to the white house if need be)
>>>> In order to get this done with a simple 5 watt portable radio ?
>>>>
>>>> By the way
>>>>
>>>> Yes i am a ham radio operator.
>>>>
>>>> Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 .. ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a
>>>> various tuners..various power supplies ..
>>>>
>>>> until recently with hurricane Sandy..
>>>> create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams .. tribander 2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter antenna..
>>>>
>>>> Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for them..
>>>> For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the outside world for 9 or 10 days
>>>> (pay phones..home phones..cell phones were all useless..power was out .. all for over a week)
>>>>
>>>> I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF
>>>> ( yes 11 meters as well )
>>>> Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with just my HT and HT antennas
>>>> ( i had to go to to top of walkway on the bayonne bridge to get out beyond 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks )
>>>> I can easily get a Buddy Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.
>>>>
>>>> So as i Now am still repairing my roof
>>>> ( it still leaks like a lot any time it rains now )
>>>> I am Now also looking to re create my antenna farm
>>>> ( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the others are trash..also lost a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax feedline )
>>>> So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
>>>> I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
>>>> (seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus getting needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept away from driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed to bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned out it was not possible)
>>>>
>>>> Bob Muller
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[Matt Zilmer]

I have a hard time understanding why anyone is even commenting on the
original post.  Guess there's a little irony there.

73,
matt W6NIA

On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:28:51 -0800, you wrote:

>Yeah you are right lets end this thread.
>I dont believe he is a ham.
>
>73,
>Bob
>K6UJ
>
>
>On Dec 14, 2012, at 6:16 PM, N5GE wrote:
>
>> He is a HAM, and your feeding his fantasy by replying to this thread.
>>
>> Let's end this thread before it gets out of hand, please Eric...
>>
>> On Fri, 14 Dec 2012 18:05:34 -0800, Bob K6UJ <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bob Muller,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the source of entertainment.  
>>> Why pretend to be knowledgeable enough to be a radio amateur ?  Study and get your
>>> license.  Then you won't need to play these charades.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>> K6UJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 5:45 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, this was good for a laugh, anyway. Go ahead with your nationwide petition, even send it to the White House if you like. If it's written anything like this Email, bet it won't get very far. Actually, even if it's written better than this Email, it won't get very far, as others have very correctly and succinctly pointed out.
>>>>
>>>> "Wow" is about the same reaction as I had.
>>>>
>>>> It was, anyway, a valiant attempt. At humor if at nothing else.
>>>>
>>>> Merry Christmas, or something.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>>> Phone: [phone] or 888-75-BUDDY
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 6:18 AM, rwm rwmr <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You guys missed a Big Part of the Market..
>>>>> You have a Great radio in the Portable K3X..
>>>>>
>>>>> With Recent Hurricane Sandy..
>>>>> Correct me if i am Wrong..
>>>>>
>>>>> Ham Radios are supposed to offer one ability to carry on Emergency contacts..
>>>>> Both for owner of radio ( for themselves and their family)
>>>>> As well as working with various local/regional emergency services..
>>>>>
>>>>> So that within a Crisis happening..
>>>>> Communications can be kept going where all other forms fail
>>>>> (like how home and cell phones and power outages...that went on for at least a week and up to still lack of power and phone service in some spots of NY and NJ as direct result of Hurricane Sandy )
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet even though your K3X offers no more then 10 watts output
>>>>> (with external battery pack...5 watts in using internal batteries)
>>>>>
>>>>> Yet even though i asked..
>>>>> You refused to do a firmware upgrade so not only is the K3X be usable on HF ham bands..But also on 11 meter/cb frequencies ..
>>>>>
>>>>> I could understand if it was a 100 watt or such radio.
>>>>> Fact is though it is clearly Not..
>>>>>
>>>>> The K3X is a Perfect radio for emergency use..
>>>>> Yet you CLEARLY leave out and refuse to allow one to use it on some of the most used local frequency's that would enable one to remain in contact with local people ( for themselves as well as surrounding community)
>>>>>
>>>>> This is Indeed a Very Big Over Sight.
>>>>> This is Also a Very Poor attitude..
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems you people are so Hard Core with offering High Quality Radios with Excellent Abilities..
>>>>> Then when you Design a merging of SDR radio with a regular radio and Not requiring a PC hook up..
>>>>> Offering a Huge advantage that other companies can only Hope to so offer ( but can not )
>>>>> However in one of the Most Important aspects..You Also Drop the Ball..
>>>>>
>>>>> Will you Re consider ?
>>>>> Or do i need to start a Petition on a National scale
>>>>> (even bringing it to the white house if need be)
>>>>> In order to get this done with a simple 5 watt portable radio ?
>>>>>
>>>>> By the way
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes i am a ham radio operator.
>>>>>
>>>>> Owning a 706 MKIIG..IC-7000 .. AR-3500 .. RCI 2970 .. IC-R3 .. DR235 .. ID800 .. ID-1 .. T90a .. ID-91AD .. THF-6a
>>>>> various tuners..various power supplies ..
>>>>>
>>>>> until recently with hurricane Sandy..
>>>>> create RC5 antenna rotor .. 2 meter,70 cm and 1.25 meter beams .. tribander 2 meter/70 cm/23cm vertical and 5/8 wave ground plane 11 meter antenna..
>>>>>
>>>>> Thankfully i had many batteries for my HT's and plenty of antennas for them..
>>>>> For as it turned out it was my ONLY means of communication to the outside world for 9 or 10 days
>>>>> (pay phones..home phones..cell phones were all useless..power was out .. all for over a week)
>>>>>
>>>>> I clearly would have befitted with battery operated able HF
>>>>> ( yes 11 meters as well )
>>>>> Even though via UHF i got out as far as 70 miles with just my HT and HT antennas
>>>>> ( i had to go to to top of walkway on the bayonne bridge to get out beyond 10 miles during the first week to 2 weeks )
>>>>> I can easily get a Buddy Pole portable HF antenna to use with the K3X.
>>>>>
>>>>> So as i Now am still repairing my roof
>>>>> ( it still leaks like a lot any time it rains now )
>>>>> I am Now also looking to re create my antenna farm
>>>>> ( i likely can salvage my 70 cm beam..all the others are trash..also lost a good deal of LDF5-50a and LDF7-50a coax feedline )
>>>>> So while re doing my antenna farm for base operations..
>>>>> I am also looking to further update my portable/backpack gear.
>>>>> (seems i also have to bite the bullet and get a car again.. thus getting needed antennas for whatever car i get as well.. i have kept away from driving for 20 years..but hurricane sandy showed if i needed to bail/evacuate on my own..without driving on my own.. well it turned out it was not possible)
>>>>>
>>>>> Bob Muller
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