Tom, Do you know if the same guy that winds the kit
toroids will offer a service to mount the K3 knobs to the FrontPanel PC board ASSEMBLY? ;-) [Elecraft] K3 front panel assembly Tom Hammond n0ss at embarqmail.com Wed Sep 5 07:28:50 EDT 2007 Folks: In Field Testing the (hopefully) soon-to-be-released K3 Assembly Manual (I had to COMPLETELY disassemble my FT K3 and reassemble it from the manual), I recall that the Front Panel (Cover) is received separately from the FrontPanel PC board ASSEMBLY. So yes... you WILL have to assemble the Front Panel PC board assembly TO the Front Panel (cover)... including installation of all the knobs, etc. 73, Tom Hammond N0SS _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
> Do you know if the same guy that winds the kit
> toroids will offer a service to mount the K3 knobs to > the FrontPanel PC board ASSEMBLY? ;-) Speaking of toroids, I assume the K3 modules will come with coils wound and soldered? I like soldering but I hate winding toroids... to put it mildly. 73 de Franki ON5ZO _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
>From pictures and comments here, the boards come completely assembled and
tested - the must be fitted if they are tested. On 5/9/07 15:52, "Franki ON5ZO" <[hidden email]> sent: >> Do you know if the same guy that winds the kit >> toroids will offer a service to mount the K3 knobs to >> the FrontPanel PC board ASSEMBLY? ;-) > > Speaking of toroids, I assume the K3 modules will come with coils wound and > soldered? > I like soldering but I hate winding toroids... to put it mildly. > > 73 de Franki ON5ZO -- God gives every bird his worm, but he does not throw it into the nest. -Swedish proverb _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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ALL K3 modules will be FULLY ASSEMBLED, TESTED, and (I'm pretty
certain) pre-aligned! Tom At 09:52 09/05/2007, Franki ON5ZO wrote: >>Do you know if the same guy that winds the kit >>toroids will offer a service to mount the K3 knobs to >>the FrontPanel PC board ASSEMBLY? ;-) > >Speaking of toroids, I assume the K3 modules will come with coils >wound and soldered? >I like soldering but I hate winding toroids... to put it mildly. > >73 de Franki ON5ZO >_______________________________________________ >Elecraft mailing list >Post to: [hidden email] >You must be a subscriber to post to the list. >Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm >Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
I seem to remember Wayne or Eric saying they would be pre-aligned in a
previous post. K3 and counting ..... On 5/9/07 16:29, "Tom Hammond" <[hidden email]> sent: > ALL K3 modules will be FULLY ASSEMBLED, TESTED, and (I'm pretty > certain) pre-aligned! -- When work is a pleasure, life is a joy! When work is a duty, life is slavery. -Maxim Gorky, author (1868-1936) _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Front panel assembly is easy and well-documented.
Wayne N6KR On Sep 5, 2007, at 7:49 AM, Don Rasmussen wrote: > Tom, Do you know if the same guy that winds the kit > toroids will offer a service to mount the K3 knobs to > the FrontPanel PC board ASSEMBLY? ;-) --- http://www.elecraft.com _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Much as I want to like the little company that could, Elecraft folks need to
recognize that despite their existing rabidly pro customer base, they are now reaching another type of customer with the advanced K3. This new customer will be much less forgiving than the folks of the QRP and toy rigs niche who are clearly predisposed to love anything Elecraft. Me, I am a new type customer, not interested in QRP (I'm too old), back packing (same), and tiny rigs (same agn). I assemble to save money, not much for the fun. I like operating, not tinkering. I purchase based on outstanding specs, not other marketing ploys. Message then to Elecraft, provided free here altho a marketing consultant would cost plenty, is to wake up to their new added customer base and understand that forgiveness in timely notices of shipment advance manual availability clear specs on rig (that are stated in the same terms as good ole Sherwood and that do not have the > or the < mark) and clear info on the full range of products, such as the Heil K2 mic/headphones, can be expected to be met with only a polite patience that can be exhausted soon. It is a new and exciting ...and challenging.... day for Elecraft. They have entered the big leagues and clearly challenge ICOM and Yaesu (and ORION). Marketing info will need to measure up too. PS... keep my order for a K3 active, please..... 73 Charles Harpole, HS0ZCW [hidden email] _________________________________________________________________ Test your celebrity IQ. Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_hotmailtextlink2 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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If there was a kit option to wind your own toroids I'd have gone for
it! There isn't much skill involved in stuffing boards with parts and soldering them. Winding toroids is one area of kit building that demands a bit of craftsmanship. I really can't understand why people who like building so dislike that part of it. -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com On 9/5/07, Franki ON5ZO <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Speaking of toroids, I assume the K3 modules will come with coils wound and > soldered? > I like soldering but I hate winding toroids... to put it mildly. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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In my case it's eyesight and colour blindness.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian G4ILO" <[hidden email]> > If there was a kit option to wind your own toroids I'd have gone for > it! There isn't much skill involved in stuffing boards with parts and > soldering them. Winding toroids is one area of kit building that > demands a bit of craftsmanship. I really can't understand why people > who like building so dislike that part of it. _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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As soon as I realised the K3 was going to be available built, I
foresaw that it would attract the kind of consumer whose attitude is "I am a customer, I demand satisfaction." That's progress, I guess. The one bit of your message I couldn't make sense of is that you claim to be too old for QRP. As someone who wrote "QRP: Less power, more fun" (http://www.g4ilo.com/qrp.html) it might surprise you to know that I can understand why some people might not be interested in QRP, but being too old for it is a new one on me! -- Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: ??? G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Ham-Directory: www.ham-directory.com On 9/5/07, Charles Harpole <[hidden email]> wrote: > Much as I want to like the little company that could, Elecraft folks need to > recognize that despite their existing rabidly pro customer base, they are > now reaching another type of customer with the advanced K3. This new > customer will be much less forgiving than the folks of the QRP and toy rigs > niche who are clearly predisposed to love anything Elecraft. > > Me, I am a new type customer, not interested in QRP (I'm too old), back > packing (same), and tiny rigs (same agn). I assemble to save money, not > much for the fun. I like operating, not tinkering. I purchase based on > outstanding specs, not other marketing ploys. > Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
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On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Julian G4ILO wrote:
> As soon as I realised the K3 was going to be available built, I > foresaw that it would attract the kind of consumer whose attitude is > "I am a customer, I demand satisfaction." That's progress, I guess. Hmmmmm, guess the word progress has a different meaning on your side of the pond. >> >> Me, I am a new type customer, not interested in QRP (I'm too old), back >> packing (same), and tiny rigs (same agn). I assemble to save money, not >> much for the fun. I like operating, not tinkering. I purchase based on >> outstanding specs, not other marketing ploys. I thought statements like marketing ploys and blowing his own horn as a marketing consultant was much more telling than saying he was too old for QRP. 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer and appliance operator www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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In a message dated 9/5/07 11:51:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[hidden email] writes: > This new > customer will be much less forgiving than the folks of the QRP and toy rigs > niche who are clearly predisposed to love anything Elecraft. > What are "toy rigs"? 73 de Jim, N2EY ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Well, to age in many folks comes with a loss of patience which comes from
the knowledge that the end is much closer than the beginning. QRP requires patience and skill beyond what is fun for me. I think I can understand how it could be fun, but not for me. Lots of folks who write on the reflector seem sometimes to have forgotten that ham radio exists, on a personal level, for FUN. I guess some folks' fun looks like work to me. 73 Charles Harpole [hidden email] _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft® Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0930003811mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Retired now means I have time to send messages like this.... but should I ?
Predictions for future: 1. genetically modified animals will be sold as personal helpers. 2. the super powers will fight over resources in Africa for the next century. 3. some will realize that democracy does not fit into a society based on the tribalism of kinship-based governance and ease up trying to push Western democracy on others. 4. computers that u can easily talk to is the next big break thru in electronics. 73 Charles Harpole [hidden email] _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft® Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0930003811mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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Charles Harpole wrote:
> I guess some folks' fun looks like work to me. Yep. :-) And that's what makes life so interesting. If it weren't for this kind of diversity, what a very boring thing life would be! Personally, I really understand Charles' point of view, and I think he makes a good point -- which I'm certain Eric and Wayne thought long and hard about, as the K3 design model began to evolve toward a top-of-the-market, competition-grade, non-kit transceiver. For some, this might translate into a greater level of impatience than for others. (Not for me.) No big deal either way; it'll be out when it's out. At the end of the day, it's the performance on the air that will tell the tale. :-) Bill / W5WVO _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
Again I say, the K3 will be the IC 706 of the new century.
After the "followers" see what the "opinion leaders" have in the K3, virtually every active ham will have a K3, or be salavating for one. I have purchased (and sold some) seven IC-706 and see the rig as a phenomena. Charles Harpole [hidden email] _________________________________________________________________ Test your celebrity IQ. Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_hotmailtextlink2 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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"Charles Harpole" <[hidden email]> wrote: (09/05/2007 22:15) >Retired now means I have time to send messages like this.... but should I ? NO!!! John - W2AGN _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 [hidden email] wrote:
> In a message dated 9/5/07 11:51:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [hidden email] writes: > > >> This new >> customer will be much less forgiving than the folks of the QRP and toy rigs >> niche who are clearly predisposed to love anything Elecraft. >> > > What are "toy rigs"? Probably the ones that are in teeny cases, that someone put together and less than 100 watts. Oh...and they might also be the ones that are really good cw rigs...since that's an obsolete mode, it's like shoes with button hooks. Which reminds me...are the K3 button hooks convex or concave? 73 k3hrn Thom,EIEIO Email, Internet, Electronic Information Officer www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon www.tlchost.net/hosting/ Web Hosting as low as 3.49/month _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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From: "Julian G4ILO" <[hidden email]> > > The one bit of your message I couldn't make sense of is that you claim > to be too old for QRP. As someone who wrote "QRP: Less power, more > fun" (http://www.g4ilo.com/qrp.html) it might surprise you to know > that I can understand why some people might not be interested in QRP, > but being too old for it is a new one on me! > With age comes wisdom, with wisdom the skill to use QRP. Just wait until you see the Elecraft 1500w power amp - I bet you'll have your order sent off within 48 hours. Simon HB9DRV _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:15:01 +0000, Charles Harpole wrote:
>Predictions for future: >4. computers that u can easily talk to is the next big break >thru in electronics. I talk to my computer all the time. Sometimes I scream in foreign languages. It never answers back, and my wife thinks that I am weird.... Now when it comes to the K2..... -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane Elecraft K2/100 s/n 5402 _______________________________________________ Elecraft mailing list Post to: [hidden email] You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com |
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