P3SVGA - Coming soon

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ]

We took a few lab pictures of our P3 SVGA display this week.  See:
http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm#p3svga

The screen in the picture is at 1920 x 1080 resolution.

We should have this up on the web order form in the next couple of
weeks. (As soon as we have confirmation of the date for finished boards
back from production.)

I'll post more info, pricing, delivery etc as we get closer to release.

73, Eric

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[Bill - K6WLM]

Eric,
 
It looks great!  Thanks for letting us know...
 
Happy Holidays and 73,
Bill - K6WLM
 
>We took a few lab pictures of our P3 SVGA display this week.  See:
http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm#p3svga
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[Vic Rosenthal]

Yes! That is exactly the same monitor that I have sitting here, waiting for a chance to
display all of those beautiful pixels!

On 12/15/2011 12:00 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

> We took a few lab pictures of our P3 SVGA display this week.  See:
> http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm#p3svga
>
> The screen in the picture is at 1920 x 1080 resolution.
>
> We should have this up on the web order form in the next couple of
> weeks. (As soon as we have confirmation of the date for finished boards
> back from production.)
>
> I'll post more info, pricing, delivery etc as we get closer to release.
>
> 73, Eric
>

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[Heinz Baertschi]

Eric,

Very pleased to hear BUT will this be accompanied by the long awaited (and Promised) K2 support?

73,
Heinz  HB9BCB

[Dave Perry N4QS]

SVGA display looks great.  Will we also have point and click capability with
a mouse?

Dave, N4QS

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From: "Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft" <[hidden email]>
To: "Elecraft Reflector" <[hidden email]>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 2:00 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

> We took a few lab pictures of our P3 SVGA display this week.  See:
> http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm#p3svga
>
> The screen in the picture is at 1920 x 1080 resolution.
>
> We should have this up on the web order form in the next couple of
> weeks. (As soon as we have confirmation of the date for finished boards
> back from production.)
>
> I'll post more info, pricing, delivery etc as we get closer to release.
>
> 73, Eric
>
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[Dick Dickinson]

I consider the ability to have a resizable, position independent display on
a computer connected monitor as significant as a dedicated display monitor.

 

Does the opportunity exist to have a windowed display of the P3 output?  

 

Perhaps I'm overlooking something obvious.

 

 

73,

Dick - KA5KKT

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[Grant Youngman]

Seems to me you would need either (1) a monitor device with two inputs and built in PIP capability, another video processor in the P3 to also take your PC video and provide PIP on the P3 output, or software and something other than a SVGA video output form the P3 to let your PC do the PIP on it's screen.

Grant/NQ5T


On Dec 16, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Edward Dickinson III wrote:

> I consider the ability to have a resizable, position independent display on
> a computer connected monitor as significant as a dedicated display monitor.
>
>
>
Edward Dickinson III <[hidden email]>
>
> Does the opportunity exist to have a windowed display of the P3 output?  
>
>
>
> Perhaps I'm overlooking something obvious.

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[Bill Swindell - K1LED]

Will the P3 VGA adapter only work with the one resolution? I have a 1024 x 768 monitor that is waiting to connect to my P3.

[Bruce Beford-2]

Your monitor should work fine, Bill.
I am believe the -max- resolution was stated as 1920x1080. It should be
"backwards compatible" with lower resolution monitors.
73,
Bruce N1RX

> Will the P3 VGA adapter only work with the one resolution? I have a 1024 x
>768 monitor that is waiting to connect to my P3.




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[Alan Bloom]

The available resolutions are 1024x768, 1280x1024 and 1920x1080.
There's room in memory so we could probably support other resolutions if
needed.

Alan N1AL


On Fri, 2011-12-16 at 21:46 -0500, Bruce Beford wrote:

> Your monitor should work fine, Bill.
> I am believe the -max- resolution was stated as 1920x1080. It should be
> "backwards compatible" with lower resolution monitors.
> 73,
> Bruce N1RX
>
> > Will the P3 VGA adapter only work with the one resolution? I have a 1024 x
> >768 monitor that is waiting to connect to my P3.
>
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[Steve Ward]

I'd suggest 1440x900,  and 1680x1050 as they are common for
less-expensive widescreen displays.

73,

Steve
AD7OG


Alan N1AL wrote:

>  The available resolutions are 1024x768, 1280x1024 and 1920x1080.
>  There's room in memory so we could probably support other resolutions if
>  needed.


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[wb6rse1]

Any recommendations for an 8"-10" VGA display for use with the P3SVGA?

73 - Steve WB6RSE
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[wb2ssb]

I would suggest another common resolution is 1,600 x 1,200.



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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3SVGA - Coming soon

I'd suggest 1440x900,  and 1680x1050 as they are common for less-expensive widescreen displays.

73,

Steve
AD7OG


Alan N1AL wrote:

>  The available resolutions are 1024x768, 1280x1024 and 1920x1080.
>  There's room in memory so we could probably support other resolutions
> if  needed.


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[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ]

We are currently supporting 1024x768, 1280x1024 for the square formats,
and 1920x1080 wide screen. 1920x1080 is by far the dominant wide screen
format on new screens. (We just did a recent survey of what was
available at Best Buy, Staples etc.) I'm amazed how low the cost has
gotten for the 1920x1080 screens.

Each screen resolution requires a different FPGA design load from local
flash on the SVGA card. We may add at least one or two more wide formats
below  1920x1080 with new f/w updates after initial release. What are
the most popular wide screen resolutions in that range?

Regards,
Eric

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On 12/17/2011 11:49 AM, Steve Ward wrote:
> I'd suggest 1440x900,  and 1680x1050 as they are common for
> less-expensive widescreen displays.
>
> 73,
>
> Steve
> AD7OG
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[W5RDW]

I know my eyes will welcome any screen size comparable to my PC monitor.  I got use to the external display for my FT-2000 DMU (albeit, it was mostly a toy as far as useful info). But with the advent of large displays now fairly inexpensive, it sure will be nice to have a larger screen to display the P-3 information!

I'm ready to order!

Roger W5RDW
Murphy, Texas

[Mike Reublin]

Here's one. I had one in the shack today. Take a co-signer.

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=10+inch+vga+monitor&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9491

73, Mike NF4L

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[Bill K9YEQ]

If one wants a small screen... that's a lot to pay!!!  I will opt for
something larger to take advantage of the output clarity available.

73,
Bill
K9YEQ

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Here's one. I had one in the shack today. Take a co-signer.

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=10+inch+vga+monitor&oe=utf-8&rls=or
g.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=9491

73, Mike NF4L

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[John Ragle]

Eric...

     FWIW  I use a main screen (DELL 2407WFP) at 1920 x 1200 (rec) and a
subsidiary screen (DELL E170S) at 1280 x 1024 (rec), the latter for e.g.
fldigi etc. I would expect to use the latter for the P3 display. I also
have another (19") flat screen unit that I could use at various
resolutions, but it is really a bit too big for the operating screens.
My video card of course supports 2 screens, as do most, nowadays...

     It has not been exactly clear from the thread whether your P3 SVGA
display is "windowable" or is fixed size. One of the problems with
several of the available SDR screens is that the screen is not
windowable or moveable. This is just a matter of the care which the
programmer used when (s)he writes the code. For example, fldigi is
pretty much completely resizeable & moveable on either display.

     WRT pricing the 1920 x 1080 flat panel displays, one can get quite
large TV sets with HDMI inputs for about the same price, a couple
hundred bucks. I use a 36" LG TV in the living room with another small
computer along with cable reception. That would give a "really big
picture" for the P3 <joke>.

John Ragle -- W1ZI

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On 12/17/2011 3:28 PM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote:

> We are currently supporting 1024x768, 1280x1024 for the square formats,
> and 1920x1080 wide screen. 1920x1080 is by far the dominant wide screen
> format on new screens. (We just did a recent survey of what was
> available at Best Buy, Staples etc.) I'm amazed how low the cost has
> gotten for the 1920x1080 screens.
>
> Each screen resolution requires a different FPGA design load from local
> flash on the SVGA card. We may add at least one or two more wide formats
> below  1920x1080 with new f/w updates after initial release. What are
> the most popular wide screen resolutions in that range?
>
> Regards,
> Eric
>
> www.elecraft.com
>
>
> On 12/17/2011 11:49 AM, Steve Ward wrote:
>> I'd suggest 1440x900,  and 1680x1050 as they are common for
>> less-expensive widescreen displays.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Steve
>> AD7OG
>>
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If one looks at several sizes of wide - screen displays we can see the most common resolutions as follows:
Dell 19" widescreen: 1440x900. Price: $99
HP 19" widescreen: 1440x900 Price $119
Viewsonic 19" widescreen 1440x900 Price $149

Acer 20" 1600x1200 $99
HP 20" 1600x1200 $129

Most monitors starting at 22" these days support 1920x1080
Samsung 21.5 widescreen 1920x1080 $169
many more but the prices climb.  These prices were online at bestbuy.ca

To be honest, having a panadapter with a screen larger than 19" would not really be an advantage IMHO.  I already have 2 displays in my shack...a 30" and 24" I could add another but I would need it small.
I think the best flexibility would be to have the above resolutions if possible.  But if you need to choose one other than 1920x1080, I would go for the 1440x900.  This lets one get a smaller monitor.  If he wants more resolution then going to 22" is reaaonable in size.  Of course then you could go much larger too.
Of course, PIP would be great if your monitor supports it.  Otherwise you could get one of these:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3731239&CatId=3493

Any other ideas?